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Ebn Tie me yeah

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  1. That may be accurately in the political sense. As far as the Hanafi fiqh is concerned it is far removed from the teachings of Aale Muhammad. But then again, the disciples of Abu Hanifa over-ruled the opinions of their teacher. Abu Yusuf became a satrap of the Abbasids, the Hanafi school then transformed itself to a sort of government rubber stamp. Kufa is not always 100% Shii'. There are the rich loyalist who would go to any extent in following the Ummayad caliphs and the Abbasids. Abu Hanifa is famous for being silent on Yazeed ibn Mawiya, that must explain many things. The only sincere Sunn
  2. I do not agree with that. I am sure you are aware regarding the revolt by Imam Zayd ibn Ali (AS) against Banu Ummaya. Whatever Umar bin Abdul Aziz (RA) did was reversed by his successors including the disputed Fadak hamlet. I believe it is accurate to say that only during the time of Imam Hanbal that Ameer ul Mumineen (AS) was some-what rehabilitated as the new fourth "righteous caliph". Sunnism crystallized much later. I agree with you that Imamis tend to over-emphasize the "blame game" on Abu Bakr and Umar. I am doubtful whether the Sheikhyn really did what was reported in the narrations.
  3. @Panzerwafee Good reply i do agree with you. But you must see this way, there are thousands of narrations from Tabeen and Sahaba coming from massive collection ahadith of the Sunnis. I do not dispute that. However those thousands of narrations do not have any impact on the so-called Sunni sect. The Giant Sunni sect rests on four pillars namely Abu Huraira, Ayesha, Anas, Ibn Umar and you can consider Ibn Abbas bearing some impact (due to Abbasid influence). Abu Huraira, Anas bin Malik were solely promoted by the Banu Ummaya since day one due to their allegiance to that faction. Narrations
  4. So that explains why they call someone Ameer and do taraddi for that person who beheaded a close companion of the 1st Imam. Those individuals only came in because of the phrase "tabeen" and "Sahaba" were used. Ask any Sunni who would recognise lets say Amir bin Hamiq (RA), a great Badri companion. This whole thing about companion based Islam is the invention of Banu Ummaya, projecting their version of how Islam should have been to the past and then somehow trying to connect it with the present.
  5. Mr Nader Zaweri has barely challenged the Nawasib on their Nasibi Forum with all that Rijali knowledge.
  6. They are not the same but they do share many similar traits. They did insult our great Ibn Taimiyya :P Ahmad Raza Khan aka AlaHazrat is known to lump up them as wahabis and their founding fathers were some-what favourable to Sheikh Al Islam Syedna Ameer Ibn Abdul Wahhab (ra). read Husam Al-Haramayn, you will be amused :D
  7. Personally i believe the biggest fatal error in their school is to include Ameer ul Mumineen (as) the forth rightly guided caliph. Ibn Hanbal wanted to buy time in order to keep his school afloat for atleast 1000 years or so
  8. An emotional statement nothing more!
  9. Allama Tabatabai himself admitted that about the defects in the arrangement of the Quran. He did not delve much into the question I have raised. There are other Shii Mufasireen who actually raised important points: The fact is that the verse on completion has nothing to do with the prohibition on food, so how can it be placed in the centre? The other Shia mufasireen said that a Furo' cannot complete the religion.
  10. Al-Haidary has said many things, he even said Al-Kulayni compiled a book of fatawa ie Al-Kafi. Just because you find buyoot and followed by Bayt, it does not justify the fact that both of the parts of the verse were NOT revealed together. Infact if you understand Arabic, the purification part seems misplaced. It was certainly placed with some other agenda. If you doubt me, look at Surah 5:3 Prohibited to you are dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah , and [those animals] killed by strangling or by a violent blow or by a head-lon
  11. Asalamualaikum, Imam Hassan Al-Mujtaba (as) was already martyred, his burial was done by his brother Imam Hussayn (as) in Jannat Al-Baqi
  12. Waris, Asalamualaikum, Brother, apparently people have bombarded you with information. Our religion does not depend on attacking the personalities whom you adore. As a Sufi I can appreciate your mindset. We have a huge corpus of supplication which you may want to look at. There is a particular reason why I am asking you to do so, we have the largest collection of supplication within Islam, no other school comes even close to us which includes the Sufis. We have a huge spiritual reserve. The book you may want to look into is called Mafatih Al-Jinan. Read the supplication and in particu
  13. The most inappropriate of things to be brought up in a Shii forum. There is no doubt Yazeed (LA) murdered Imam Hussayn (as). He (عليه السلام) said, ‘Three are the worst of creations, which afflicted the best of the creations,1. Abū Sufyān, he fought the Messenger of Allāh and hated him (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)2. Mu`āwiyah, he fought `Alī (عليه السلام) and hated him (عليه السلام)3. Yazīd b. Mu`āwiyah, may Allāh curse him, he fought al-Ḥusayn b. `Alī (عليه السلام) and hated him until he killed him (عليه السلام)This is taken from Al-Kafi Volume 8. Graded as Hasan, you see Nader Zawe
  14. So according to your sect, Ameer ul Mumineen (as) was power hungry and even if the Prophet (sawa) denied Ameer ul Mumineen (as), he would still try and only the "people" will stop it. What do you think of Imam Ali (as)? These "people" were only interested to deny the right to Ahlul Bayt but was silent when the Prophet's son Imam Hussayn (as) was murdered. Where was these people? Your Bukhari is a nasibi!
  15. What can we do if a bunch of liars narrate such things about Ameer ul Mumineen (عليه السلام) and his praise for the Taghyun. I want to ask all those Ummavis (aka Sunnis), tell me from your narration who murdered Usman bin Affan and what were their affiliations?
  16. Read history, we have gone though destructive wars, shi'as were hunted down like rats by the Ammi rulers. Many many knowledgeable shias were murdered and Ahlul Bayt were oppressed. This discussion is what i term as "high level". I will stop here, if you want to go along logical lines i can do that, if you want me to go through hard facts i can do that also but this is not the forum.
  17. This the verse often quoted by contemporary scholars. This is a free standing verse, there is no further explanation provided on how the Quran can be protected. The contemporary compilation of the Quran that we have now was compiled by fallible individuals, the most popular belief we have now is the fact the current Quran we have dates back to the recession of Caliph Uthman Bin Affan not that of Imam Ali (as). If the current Quran was compiled by Ameer ul Mumineen (as), can this be proven? In another word, Caliph Uthman bin Affan was divinely inspired and guided by Allah so that Quran i
  18. Yes, Shi'is and Sunnis are so obsessed about the Khulafa that they forgot the "contribution" of Banu Ummaya.
  19. Have you read Al-Kafi? Not need to be alarmed, there was a shia scholar who believed that the verse of purification has been "misplaced" in the Quran after the verse regarding the wives. Author of “al-Murajiat” Abdhulhussain al-Musawi said: “Although we are convinced that no distortion has taken place in the verses of the Noble Qur’an and that our heavenly Book has not been tampered with in any way, it is by no means clear that the arrangement and recension of the verses is precisely that in which they were revealed. For it is quite possible that the ‘purification verse’ concerning the
  20. Dear Mod, Do you have an authentic narration to prove the current sequence of surahs in the Quran? Shi'i or Ammi
  21. What business we have to prove to you? you wouldnt believe us even if we present with you with clear evidence?
  22. the proto-sunnis were cut off from the guidance of Ameer ul Mumineen (as). Only after a century later he was incorporated as the 4th Rightly Guided Caliph. Ahlul Sunnah was coined and perfected by the Ummayad oppressors and in particular Hujjaj bin Yusuf Al-Thaqafi (la). Ameer ul Mumineen (as) has to be re-moulded to fit into this patchy framework of Caliphs and also the newly crystallised concept of "the justice of the Sahaba" Most of the narrations from the Amma (modern day sunni) which does not come through the Shi'as of Ameer ul Mumineen (as) is mostly fabricated. Due to the p
  23. So Ibn Saba was real? there is no proper chain of narration i believe this is one of the narration that came from our opponents.
  24. There was a question posted on the order of the Quran, his eminence Ayatollah Al-Hakeem replied in the following manner: How do I know that the order of revelations (Surahs) in the Quran are in correct order, or legitimate? Where is the proof they are in order beginning with Al-Alaq and so forth? Answer: We are not certain of the sequence of the verses’ revelations. We are sure of the fact that the Quran is the current contemporary one. Only after the zuhoor of Qaim (as), we would able to confirm this issue, Allah knows best
  25. Those who fight against the truth will perish, its about time the veils of hypocrisy will be lifted! May Allah hasten the appearance of Qaim Aale Muhammad Imam Al-Mahdi (as) :)
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