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akramabbas got a reaction from The Green Knight in Some Shiites Hate Towards The Sahaba, Why?
that does not make sense. I am totally disagreed with bold point. We only dislike those sahabas, who did not like Imam Ali (as) after Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) demise. We only respect and like those who loved Ali because Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) said, "Ali is with the truth and the truth is with 'Ali;"
We are only with Haq(Truth). We like other sahabi (ra) i.e. Hazrat Bilal (ra) etc who were honest with Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) and also with Imam Ali (as), after Prophet Mohammad (pbuh).
And your first statement really don't not make sense. There are many possibility majority people go astray after a leader demise. It is Sunni who respect and like each and every Sahabi of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) without getting into deep information about them. The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) already informed there are few Sahabi who are hypocrites.
what do you say about this?
HadithThe Prophet said, "I am your predecessor at the Lake-Fount." 'Abdullah added: The Prophet said, "I am your predecessor at the Lake-Fount, and some of you will be brought in front of me till I will see them and then they will be taken away from me and I will say, 'O Lord, my companions!' It will be said, 'You do not know what they did after you had left.'Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8 Hadith 578
HadithThe Prophet said, “Some of my companions will come to me at my Lake Fount, and after I recognise them, they will then be taken away from me, whereupon I will say, ‘My companions!’ Then it will be said, ‘You do not know what they innovated (new things) in the religion after you.”Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8 Hadith 584 (also Sahih Muslim, part 15, pp 53-54)
so it clearly saying there were few sahabi who were Hypocrites. So hence not all the Sahabis are good, but few are not good.
akramabbas got a reaction from NaveenHussain in What Do Shias Really Think About Abu Bakr (Ra)?
read Nehjul Balagah, and see what Imam Ali (as) said about Abu Bakar (Abi Quhafa). now don't say Nehjul Balagah is a shia book. I myself don't like saying bad words to Abu Bakar or anyone, but whatever they did was totally wrong. Abu Bakar hurt Bibi Fatima (as) ... that's fact which is found in Shia and Sunni books.
akramabbas reacted to Qa'im in Why Be A Shia?
Sunnis are Muslims; and in our school, Sunnis enjoy all of the rights of Muslims. They are to be protected, their meat is halal (if it fits under Qur'anic guidelines), marriage to Sunnis is acceptable, etc. In truth, the name "Sunni" is a beautiful title - it refers to one who follows the Sunna of Allah's Messenger (pbuh). Likewise, the name "Shi`a" is a beautiful title - it refers to one who devotes himself or herself to Muhammad (pbuh) and his family (as). We are Muslims who aspire to be followers of the Book of Allah and the Sunna of His Messenger, and we are Muslims who aspire to be the lovers, supporters, and devotees to the Ahl al-Bayt (as).
It is first relevant to look at who the Qur'an tells us to obey and receive our knowledge from. "...Ask the People of the Reminder if you know not" (16:43) We believe that the People of the Reminder are the Ahl al-Bayt (as). It is upon us to ask them about religious issues.
Allah speaks about the Qur'an and its use of fundamental and allegorical verses. He says, "He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah and those who are firmly grounded in knowledge..." (3:7) This group described at the end of the verse, who Allah describes as a group that is delved into knowledge, consists of Muhammad (pbuh) and the Ahl al-Bayt (as).
Allah commanded full obedience to the Ahl al-Bayt when He revealed, "O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and those of you who are in authority; and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if ye are (in truth) believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end." (4:59) We see that the Qur'an uses the same "obey" for the Messenger and those in authority, meaning the obedience we give to both are identical. Just as we obey Muhammad (pbuh) in all matters, we are to obey the latter figures in a similar way. These are the Imams (as) of Ahl al-Bayt, who Allah has positioned to rule over the Muslims and interpret Islam to us.
Furthermore, we are to return our matters to the Prophet (pbuh) and the Imams (as) as per the following ayah: "And if any tidings, whether of safety or fear, come unto them, they noise it abroad, whereas if they had referred it to the messenger and such of them as are in authority, those among them who are able to think out the matter would have known it. If it had not been for the grace of Allah and His mercy ye would have followed Satan, save a few (of you). (4:83)
The identification of `Ali (as) as the first Caliph, as selected by Allah through His Prophet (pbuh), occurred at the Farewell Pilgrimage (Hajj). The announcement was made at Ghadir Khumm and was witnessed by thousands of people. The hadith was transmitted through many authentic chains, and in our view, Allah commanded the Prophet to make this announcement in Surat al-Ma'ida: "O Messenger! Make known that which hath been revealed unto thee from thy Lord (about Ali), for if thou do it not, thou will not have conveyed His message. Allah will protect thee from mankind. Lo! Allah guideth not the disbelieving folk." (5:67) The wilaya (guardianship) of Imam `Ali was the last Islamic obligation made by the Prophet. The hadith can be found below:
O people, Allah the Most Kind the Omniscient has told me that no apostle lives to more than half the age of him who had preceded him. I think I am about to be called (die) and thus I must respond. I am responsible and you are responsible, then what do you say?’ They said, ‘We witness that you have informed, advised and striven. May Allah bless you.’ He said, ‘Do you not bear witness that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is His servant and Apostle, and that His Heaven is true, His Hell is true, death is true, the Resurrection after death is true, that there is no doubt that the Day of Judgment will come, and that Allah will resurrect the dead from their graves?’ They said, ‘Yes, we bear witness’. He said, ‘O Allah, bear witness.’ Then he said, ‘O people, Allah is my Lord and I am the lord of the believers. I am worthier of believers than themselves. Of whomsoever I had been Master (Mawla), Ali here is to be his Master. O Allah, be a supporter of whoever supports him (Ali) and an enemy of whoever opposes him.
The significance of this hadith is that the Prophet identified that his mastership extends over the selves of the believers; and that his mastership extends to `Ali. This means, `Ali is the master of all believing men and women in the same way the Prophet is. They both represent the mastership of God on earth.
Furthermore, we find ahadith that support the Imamate of the 12 Imams. The Prophet said: "The (Islamic) religion will continue until the Hour (day of resurrection), having twelve Caliphs for you, all of them will be from Quraysh." These cannot be the Sunni Caliphs, as there have been many dozens and the Hour has not passed. Rather, it is the 12th Imam, and we await the return of the 12th. The Prophet also guaranteed that there would always be a Caliph among the Muslims, and nothing can change that. But who is the Caliph today? For us Shi`a, it is the Mahdi. "It has been narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: The Caliphate will remain among the Quraish even if only two persons are left (on the earth)".
The Prophet told us to hold onto two things (thaqalayn). The Sunnis popularly know this as the Qur'an and Sunna, however, this formula is not found in a single authentic narration. Rather, many authentic hadiths say that the two are the Qur'an and Ahl al-Bayt. "The Messenger of Allah - may Allah bestow peace and benedictions upon him and his Progeny - said: "Verily, I am leaving behind two precious things (thaqalayn) among you: the Book of God and my kindred (`itrah), my household (Ahl alBayt), for indeed, the two will never separate until they come back to me by the Pond" The significance of this hadith is the guarantee that the Qur'an and Ahl al-Bayt are not only the two sources of Islam, but that the two are one and the same. You cannot understand the Qur'an without Ahl al-Bayt, and you cannot understand Ahl al-Bayt without the Qur'an. The two compliment each other and are held onto.
Lastly, the recognition of the Imam is wajib. The Imam is our leader in the political and spiritual spheres, and he is the protector and surveyor of the Qur'an and the Sunna. The Prophet said: "Whoso dies and does not recognize the Imam of his time has died the death of jahaliyya" (Ahmad b. Hanbal, al-Musnad, p. 96.)
Here are some resources for yu:
Misconceptions of Shi`a Islam:
Usool al-Kafi in English: Selections from the Books of Intellect and Ignorance, Virtue of Knowledge, Monotheism, and Divine Authority: http://www.imamiyya.com/hadith/usul-kafi
The Peak of Eloquence (collection of sermons, letters, and sayings of `Ali b. Abi Talib (as)): http://www.al-islam.org/nahj
Sahifa Sajjadiyya (the earliest book of supplications in Islam, a collection of du`a's of the 4th Imam (as)) http://www.duas.org/sajjadiya/sajjadiya.htm
Risalat al-Huquq (rights in Islam, written by the 4th Imam): http://www.al-islam.org/treatise-rights-risalat-al-huquq-imam-zain-ul-abideen
akramabbas reacted to Yasmeena in Third Challenge To All Sunnis: Clay Or Carpet.
I've read a beautiful answer by Imam Ali (as) when he was asked about the meaning of sujud.
"Sujud is the code of the 4 stages of human life. The first sujud means that I was mud clay in the beginning, and as I raise my head from sujud, it means that I came to the world from the soil. The second sujud means that I will again return to the soil, and as I raise my head from sujud, it means that on the Day of Resurrection I will rise up from the grave and be summoned"
[bihar al-Anwar, V.82, P.139]
Then it it very logical that we prostrate on what is natural (clay, stone..) as opposed to what isnt. If we accept this "symbolism" behind sujud (which makes perfect sense) doesnt this make prostration on fabric/cloth meaningless? And not fulfilling to the intended meaning of sujud?
akramabbas reacted to Qa'im in Prophet: Whoever Loves Ahl Al-Kisa Will Be With Me
Being on the same level (daraja) as the Prophet (pbuh) in Paradise was not al-Mutawakkil's problem with this hadith. Firstly, the statement that got Nasr released from punishment was "The man is from Ahl as-Sunna!" (الرجل من أهل السنة) Secondly, observe the source below from Abu Bakr al-Khateeb, which Darussalam did not include in full:
قال أبو بكر الخطيب عقيبه : إنما أمر المتوكل بضربه ، لأنه ظنه رافضيا .
Abu Bakr al-Khateeb said: Verily, al-Mutawakkil ordered that he (Nasr) be struck, because he thought he was a Rafidi.
قلت : والمتوكل سني ، لكن فيه نصب.
I said: And al-Mutawakkil was a Sunni, but in him there was nasb.
I agree that other Sunni commentators had a problem with the statement about the daraja, but this can be understood simply to mean "he will be with me in Paradise". In Bukhari, there's a hadith which states, "I and the custodian of an orphan are like this in Paradise", and he joined his forefinger and middle finger together."
So we can establish with some level of certainty that al-Mutawakkil acted out of sectarianism and perhaps even nasb. And yes, you can be a Hashimi and still harbour `asabiyya towards other Hashimis at the same time. The `Abbasis were not descendants of `Ali (as) and Fatima (as), they were descendents of `Abbas b. `Abd al-Muttalib. Many (if not all) of our later Imams were poisoned by these `Abbasis.
Yes, but there's a difference. You will find the occasional Ja`far al-Kadhab (which Saduq's tawqee`at Imam al-`Asr indicate that he repented from his sin, just like the brothers of Yusuf) in our sources, but in Sunnism, there is a clear disregard of the teachings of the A'immah. Their students were weakened, and no effort was made in preserving their madhhab. Their riwayat in the major Sunni books are few. The main references you'll find to the Ahl al-Bayt are either in less-prominent fiqh books (like the Musannafayn) or delirious and ahistoric Sufi collections
akramabbas reacted to Qa'im in Prophet: Whoever Loves Ahl Al-Kisa Will Be With Me
Looking over the post again, it seems that the issue is not with Nasr, but with `Ali b. Ja`far (ra). Looking over their entries on him, I can find neither ta`deel or jarH of `Ali b. Ja`far:
علي" بن جعفر بن محمد بن علي بن الحسين بن علي بن أبي طالب الهاشمي العلوي1 روى عن أبيه أنه كان سمع منه وأخيه موسى الكاظم وابن عم أبيه حسين بن زيد بن علي بن الحسين والثوري ومعتب مولاهم وأبي سعيد المكي وعنه ابنه أحمد ومحمد وابن ابنه عبد الله بن الحسن بن علي وعلي بن الحسن بن علي بن عمر بن علي بن أبي طالب وزيد بن علي بن حسين بن زيد بن علي بن حسين بن علي وابنه حسين بن زيد وابن بن أخيه إسماعيل بن محمد بن إسحاق بن جعفر وسلمة بن شبيب ونصر بن علي الجهضمي وغيرهم قال بن بن أخيه إسماعيل مات سنة عشر ومائتين له في الترمذي حديث واحد في الفضائل وأستغربه
على بن جعفر [ت] بن محمد الصادق.
عن أبيه، وأخيه موسى، والثوري.
وعنه عبد العزيز الاويسى، ونصر بن علي الجهضمى، وأحمد البزى، وجماعة ما هو من شرط كتابي، لانى ما رأيت أحدا لينه، نعم ولا من وثقه، ولكن
حديثه منكر جدا، ما صححه الترمذي ولا حسنه، ورواه عن نصر بن علي، عنه عن أخيه موسى، عن أبيه، عن أجداده: من أحبنى.
أخبرني ابن قدامة، إجازة، أخبرنا عمر بن محمد، أخبرنا ابن ملوك، وأبو بكر القاضي، قالا: أخبرنا أبو الطيب الطبري، أخبرنا أبو أحمد الغطريفى، حدثنا عبد الرحمن بن المغيرة، حدثنا نصر بن علي، حدثنا علي بن جعفر بن محمد، حدثني أخي موسى، عن أبيه، عن أبيه محمد، عن أبيه على، عن أبيه، عن جده علي رضي الله عنه - أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم أخذ بيد الحسن والحسين فقال: من أحبنى وأحب هذين وأبويهما كان معي في درجتي يوم القيامة.
قال الترمذي: لا يعرف إلا من هذا الوجه.
" علي " بن جعفر الصادق بن محمد بن علي بن الحسين بن علي بن أبي طالب العلوي عن أبيه والثوري وعنه ابنه أحمد ونصر بن علي الجهضمي.
I had not initially expected `Ali b. Ja`far (ra) to be the issue, because of his status as a muhaddith and a student of his father Ja`far (as) and his brother Musa (as). So unless we can find tawtheeq for `Ali b. Ja`far, the narration would be majhool.
Still, the hadith poses some concerns for Sunnis. Saying this hadith is munkar is essentially calling `Ali b. Ja`far (ra) a liar. Being unofficially opposed to `Ali b. Ja`far due to the contents of his hadith is simply business as usual - rejection of the closest students of the Imams and the too-Shii side of their teachings.
akramabbas reacted to Ugly Jinn in Question To Sunnis: Answer This Scenario
Simple question to Sunnis, please think before you answer, your answer can lead to fundamental problems.
You are standing before the start of the Battle of Camel, you haven't decided which side to be on.
Ali comes to you and says "Fight for me, I'm on the side of truth".
Ayesha comes to you and says "Fight for me, I'm on the side of truth".
You have to pick one side, which side would you pick and why?
akramabbas reacted to Qa'im in Why Shia Turns Up As Athiest?
I too have met many Iranian atheists and agnostics - many of my professors and colleagues in academia were secular Iranians. Iran makes the claim that it is the Islamic state, and that the Supreme Leader is effectively the leader of the Muslim Umma. So, when Iranians dislike their governments, they equally dislike Islam. Iranian atheists, Baha'is, and agnostics find it difficult to distinguish Islam from their experiences with the Iranian government and its clerics. There are many Iranians who therefore disassociate from Islam and develop strong feelings against it.
akramabbas reacted to Modest Muslim in Why Shia Turns Up As Athiest?
If a Muslim leaves Islam and adopts another religion, we can assuredly say that he was a man with a weak faith. His study was incomplete and his mental approach was also defective. His concepts were unclear. These factors resulted in his misguidance and misunderstanding of Islam.
akramabbas reacted to Abu Hadi in Who Is Fatima Zahra(A.s)'s Imam
Just because you say it is a fabrication does not make it so.
There are lots of references to the particulars of this event by Sunni Scholars.
Here is the link to the article regarding this
Since the evidence has been presented and is not disputed by you or anyone regarding the fact that Fatima Zahra(a.s)
accept Abu Bakr as her Imam, then I will ask you again to tell me which conclusion can we reach from this
1) Abu Bakr was not the Imam
2) Fatima(a.s) died the death of Jahiliyyah.
It has to be one of those two. You still haven't told me which conclusion is the right one, according to you.
It's a simple question, why is it so difficult for your to answer ?
akramabbas reacted to baqar in The Incredible Piety Of Imam Musa Kazim (As)
The caliph's plot against our Imam fails
All our Imams were killed one way or another. Two were killed by the sword and the others were all poisoned.
Here is a small anecdote relating to our 7th Imam, Imam Musa Kazim, peace be upon him. At the behest of the caliph, the Imam spent several years in prison. One day, the caliph thought of a way to snare the Imam and hopefully catch him red-handed in sin.
He ordered a pretty young woman to be let into the Imam's cell in order to seduce him. The jailer let the woman in, hoping that the Imam would be unable to resist her and his reputation would be destroyed once and for all.
The caliph ordered the jailer to keep his ears open so that the jail door could be opened at the right moment, that is when the Imam was in the act of sin or when enough evidence was available.
The caliph himself came to the prison to witness the Imam's humiliation and exultantly ordered the jailer to open the door at what was seen as a good moment. The caliph was simply outside his wits at what he saw.
The Imam was engaged in worship and the former seductress had seemingly changed into a pious woman, separately immersed in contemplation and worship.
When the caliph asked the woman why she couldn't win him over, she replied 'did you think he was like you'?
The caliph was disappointed at the failure of his mission and the ineffectiveness of his bait.
akramabbas reacted to Qa'im in To Shia Muslims - What Sunni Beliefs Frustrate You
The belief that the Prophet (pbuh) was suicidal, bewitched with black magic, and whispered to by Satan. That Satan flowed in his blood, but was afraid to walk on the same side of the road as `Umar.
The belief that Allah has a physical body and physical body parts; visible to the eye on the Day of Judgment.
The belief that those who opposed Abu Bakr were apostates; while those who opposed `Ali (as) get a (ra) after their name.
The belief that those who reject certain Caliphs are kufar and thus worthy of death.
The belief that any person who saw or heard the Prophet (pbuh) is better than the rest of the world, despite any horrendous actions they may have committed.
The attachment to militarism, conquests, suicide bombings, and the "glory days".
akramabbas got a reaction from Mlle. Advice in To Shia Muslims - What Sunni Beliefs Frustrate You
saying Kaffir to Shia (this has become their practise. It is only done by Wahabi, Deobandi and Ahl-e-Hadeeth and very few other Sunnis)
akramabbas reacted to Grief in Male Female Friends... Islam Is Right Yet Again...
Women are romantic partners though. That's the thing. It's human nature. That's what they were created to be. Mothers partners and to be taken care of and protected. Not to be solely friends with.
akramabbas reacted to Al-Hassan in How Should I Reflect On The Quran?
Firstly, before reflecting on what you read from the Noble Quran, you should consider having reading it correctly as a priority first. In other words, you should consider having to learn Tajweed in order to make sure you're pronouncing it correctly according to the 10 agreed upon Qiraat. There is a consensus among the 'ulama that any of the ten Qiraat can be chosen to be learned, but the most common ones are the Hafs and Warsh. It's not that hard to learn it. It just takes practice.
However, if you are just looking for the general Tafsir of some specific verses, even for the English translation of the Quran, there are numerous resources online you can choose from. As mentioned above, Neuman Ali Khan is a good resource, as well as Ibn Kathir, just be careful that not everything they say is necessarily corrects or holds any truth, as they belong to a deviant version of Islam. Tafsir of Allama Tabatabai which can be found online is also a good resource, however it is incomplete.
Fi aman illah
akramabbas reacted to _omar_ in Bad Aklaq Is Not Part Of Our Religion
Wa'alaykum as-salaam brother,
I agree with you completely.
We may have differences but we are still brothers and sisters in Islam. And we should communicate as such and treat one another with respect.
Whether Sunni, Shia, or anything in between, every notable figure in Islam preached kindness.
“Kindness is a mark of faith, and whoever is not kind has no faith.”
- Prophet Muhammad (SAW)
"Do not be angry and do not enrage others. Exchange greetings and use good wording." - Imam Ali (RA)
"If you expect the blessings of God, [then] be kind to His people."
- Abu Bakr (RA)
“Be dignified, honest and truthful.”
- Umar (RA)
And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam)."
Allah SWT tells us to speak good with the ahlul kitab, so think how bad it is for us to speak badly with each other? And we aren't even a different religion?. We have the same Allah, the same Quran, and the same Prophet.
Peace to my Shia brothers and sisters :)
akramabbas reacted to Abu Hadi in Bad Aklaq Is Not Part Of Our Religion
Salam Alekum to all my brothers and sisters in Islam.
I just wanted to comment that I have been noticing, especially on this sub forum, people using insulting
and derogatory language with one another. I just want to remind everyone that this practice is not part of our religion.
If we want to represent Islam according to our understanding, we should represent it in a good way.
We obviously have disagreements about certain issues, but these disagreements should not lead us into bad aklaq.
I am asking all the brothers and sisters to show good behaviour when debating topics.
akramabbas got a reaction from Al-Hassan in Why Are Many Of The Bros Here Not Married Yet ?
I got married at the age of 21. and I am 26 year old now. Alhamdulillah I've a daughter she is 4 year old. I think boys should get married between 20-25. I've seen many boys and even asked about delaying marriage. They all have common answer they want to earn money and want a good bank balance and then get married. They're even ready to get married after 30 years. But career is must. But getting married early is a better choice. But yes, I am from Pakistan so it is quite common in Pakistan.
akramabbas reacted to Ali Musaaa :) in Illiterate Nabi? I Donot Think So, Please Advice?
^... That's just a personal opinion. Majority of Muslims believe he was illiterate and it hasn't seemed to 'defy the purpose of being a prophet' to them.
I never understood why many Shī'a get so angry over this issue. If anything, it only further proves Muhammad's [sawa] Prophethood.
Its historically known the Prophet [sawa] was never taught to read or write. If it wasn't for Allah teaching him to read he would have been illiterate in the sense of not knowing how to read. Not that this is problematic in the slightest since he knew the Qur'ān by heart and orally transmitted it in its entirety to his Companions. There isn't really any evidence that suggests he wrote anything down himself as him Companions would record his words, write his letters and so on on his behalf.
Then again, Imam 'Alī [as] was literate and he was raised by the Prophet [sawa] himself.
I'm inclined to think he was was only able to read after the age of 40 (i.e., when prophethood was activated). There is one aya that may be implying this:
You never recited any Scripture before We revealed this one to you; nor did you write it with your right hand, for then the impugners would have been skeptical. But no, [this Qur'ān] is a revelation that is clear to the hearts of those endowed with knowledge. No one refuses to acknowledge Our revelations but the evildoers. [29:48-49]
akramabbas reacted to Al-Hassan in To improve ShiaChat.com... [OFFICIAL THREAD]
YES! Excellent idea. We could have something like this....
The right bottom side of the forum all empty, and it can be used to fill it in with something useful like a calendar.
And the days like eids, Mawlids, Muharam ect can be highlighted so people can know when they are at an earlier time.
I hope the Admin team takes it into consideration as it would be a very useful gadget to have here.