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  1. Taliban have kidnapped a son of Yusuf Raza Gillani, the ex PM of Pakistan as a revenge for him deceiving the nation by collaborating with the falseflaggers in drone attacks to murder innocent people. In the 90s, Aimal Kansi had travelled to the USA to exact revenge from the CIA for some treachery done by them. Will the Taliban now repeat the same to George W Bush, Cheney, Neocons or Obama, or others? Any guesses or estimates?
  2. The point I made is that there are other places where shia are doing as bad things not to salafis, but to sunnis and also shias. I think, we should condemn all bad things without just pointing out the sect. Do you like and appreciate my point?
  3. In Pakistan, MQM a party of shia terrorists, holding the whole of Karachi Hostage and cheating in recent elections, has Altaf Hussein, Sayed Haidar Abbas Rizvi,Yusuf Raza Abdi, and they also MURDERED Dr Salman Farooq. This hostage taking and EXTRACTION of Protection money reminds me of the 1000AD when such bandits were there. OK, I dont wanna get into this type of discussion, but I do want to remind my pious shia brothers to stop the MQM and send curses on MQM. For facts, you can see threads in south asia section where there are videos. MQM was the main cheater in Karachi.
  4. There is going to be re-polling. Rigging: 49 polling stations across Pakistan received over 100pc turnout Sajjad Haider | 4 hours ago More than 100pc voter turn out was witnessed in six polling stations of KP, 31 of Punjab, 11 of Sindh and one of Balochistan. KARACHI: Statistics showing abnormally high turnout confirm reports of rigging at several polling stations across Pakistan. In at least 49 polling stations around all four provinces of the country, the number of votes polled far exceeds the registered voters, according to data from elections observer group FAFEN. These include six polling stations in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, 31 in Punjab, 11 in Sindh and one in Balochistan. The largest discrepancy was found at a polling station in Rahim Yar Khan’s NA-193 constituency which witnessed a voter turnout of over 320 per cent, as 1010 votes were cast against 315 registered voters. A polling station in NA-6, Nowshera-II saw 2774 votes cast against 1023 maximum possible votes. A polling station in Sindh’s NA-211 Naushero Feroze-I saw 982 votes against 491 votes, coming up to a voter turnout of 200 per cent. The only constituency in Balochistan to witnessed over 100 per cent voter turnout was NA-262 Killa Abdullah, where at a polling station 184 per cent or 581 ballots against 315 registered voters were polled. According to FAFEN’s observations, 31 polling stations in Punjab received over 100 per cent votes. These included polling stations in NA-71 Mianwali-I, NA-122 Lahore-V, NA-124 Lahore-VII, NA-126 Lahore-IX, NA-127 Lahore-X, NA-128 Lahore-XI, NA-130 Lahore-XIII, NA-101 Gujranwala-VII, NA-105 Gujrat-II, NA-115 Narowal-I, NA-140 Kasur-III, NA-142 Kasur-V, NA-143 Okara-I, NA-147 Okara-V, NA-148 Multan-I, NA-151 Multan-IV, NA-168 Vehari-II, NA-175 Rajanpur-II, NA-193 Rahim Yar Khan-II, NA-195 Rahim Yar Khan-IV, NA-52 Rawalpindi-III, NA-74 Bhakkar-II, NA-94 Toba Tek Singh-III, and NA-98 Gujranwala-IV. The five constituencies in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa where number of votes was greater than voters registered at polling stations included NA-13 Swabi-II, NA-24 Dera Ismail Khan, NA-5 Nowshera-I, NA-6 Nowshera-II, and NA-7 Charsadda-I. In Sindh, the constituencies included NA-198 Sukkur-cum-Shikarpur-I (Old Sukkur-I), NA-200 Ghotki-I, NA-211 Naushero Feroze-I, NA-217 Khairpur-III, NA-218 Matiari-cum-Hyderabad (Old Hyderabad-I), NA-226 Mirpurkhas-cum-Umerkot-I (Old Mirpurkhas-I), NA-229 Tharparkar-I, NA-242 Karachi-IV, NA-256 Karachi-XVIII, and NA-257 Karachi-XIX. The Free and Fair Election Network (FAFEN) had over 41,000 trained election observers monitoring polling at a sample of 8,119 polling stations across the country. The Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) has already taken notice of several complaints of rigging and irregularities. “We will conduct re-polling where we receive substantial evidence of rigging or irregularities,” Secretary ECP Ishtiaq Ahmed told reporters in Islamabad. The ECP has asked the civil society members to submit evidence of rigging or malpractice to the ECP. Interim Prime Minister Mir Hazar Khoso has also called for all complaints and evidence of irregularities in the general elections to be forwarded to the ECP so appropriate action may be taken by the commission.
  5. ^ You have good ideas, but once in a while, I do come across good ideas by Indians analysing the mechanics of the problems. more at http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/Russia-digs-in-heels-over-Syria-despite-diplomatic-push/articleshow/20033196.cms Its so brilliant analysis, I post it again outside the quote box. Mohan (Delhi) 2 hrs ago If you look at the world history since world war 2, you will observe that this is what the US and the Zionists who created Israel, have been doing to non-white countries around the world, First they start secretly funding and arming the rival country or rival factions within the country. Then they come in as your friend and trading partner. Then they slowly take over the media of your country to hype up the rivalry and threat from the rival country or rival faction. Then they slowly take over the banks of the country. Then they begin funding the politicians of their choice, so the government is now their puppet. Then they slowly flood the economy with easy loans. They can easily do this because the international business currency is the dollar, and it is not backed by gold, so they can keep printing as many dollars as they want. This causes the prices of everything to go through the roof and everyone is forced to take a loan to keep up with the artificially bloated lifestyle of those around them. People borrow money and buy things that they don’t really own, but temporarily feel good that they have more than their parents did. Then the US and the Zionists start slowly financially enslaving the country thru predatory and deceptive interest rate hikes. Then they create extreme provocative conditions that your rival country or rival faction carries out an attack on your country, or the US and the Zionists themselves orchestrate a false-flag attack on your country. Your country is dragged to war. The US comes to your aid, sets up a military base in your country. Now they have direct control of all your natural resources. This is their payback to help you in your war that they created and compensation to rebuild your military infrastructure that got destroyed during war. Your country is now their permanent colony. They can now keep sucking the wealth out of your country, and work out of your financially enslaved workforce forever. This is the same modern version of divide and conquer policy that heir forefather’s the Brits used on the Indians 500 years ago. These are the same people who tricked the native Indians of America and took over their land 500 years ago. These are the same people who tricked the Palestinians and took over their land in 1945! I was so shocked to find out that India has become the world’s biggest arms importer in 2012. The US and Israel are the biggest arms exporters in the world, so everything is going on per their plan. But we have so many poor and needy people both in India and Pak, so I think we should seriously rethink our priorities and the path our countries are headed towards.
  6. (bismillah) (salam) The 6-11-2013 elections are now complete. There is no general thread for discussing solutions of "terrorism" so i thought of making one. What is the cause and history of this situation as it did not exist before the 9-11 falseflag and how to solve it? We (as shias) should always keep in mind that we are living in a country where we have friends and hardly any enemies and I dont believe in siege mentality because, our own Ithnasharis have held all the highest political offices. Zardari is a Shia and PPP has many shia leadership like Shahla Raza,Dhulfiqar Mirza and his wife who was the NA speaker. In addition, from MQM (Mohajjir Qaum) Altaf Hussein,Hyder Abbas Rizvi,Yusuf Raza Abdi are all Shia Ithnashari. Non-Ithnashari Shias like Alawites,Tayyebis,Nizaris,Aghakhanis,Bohras dont participate in politics by choice. Some Zaidis are also in politics. My personal position is to witness and state the truth without prejudice, fear or favor and I have said that in the above paragraph. The Shias are many ethnic groups and many subsects. If some ethnicities are targetted, it may not be a prejudice against the whole as well as it may be some other reason, political or economic or rivalry, than religious. This discussion is very important because this is the kind of clarity that we need to develop in the Ummah so that we are spiritually and intellectually ready upon the arrival of Imam al-Mahdi and Jesus in the age of ra'ja' and the end times and this desire unites all the believing muslims to an agreeable platform with believing christians and jews as well as the hindus and buddhists. As a follower of Tauheed and Imamat,we should not lose hope and pray for a better and peaceful Pakistan,Afghanistan,Iran and the greater muslim Ummah, aware of the spies and splittists. Since I started this thread, I urge the moderator not to spoil my thread by making multiple nicks and making distractive comments and cooperate with me to delete those by others that I think are malafide even if pretending to be innocuous. I will guide the discussion and take it wherever the truth leads us. God bless you All :) (wasalam) Discuss Khaybar Pakhtunkhwa Here, ie "terrorism" in Pakistan and Afghanistan
  7. I am a supporter of PTI ideology, but I have no special affection for PTI. Even if it loses, it has won a place in the opposition benches. What is needed is a counter voice in the opposition, so that there is no MUK-MUKKA and the life of the govt is made miserable by intense scrutiny. PTI for me is only a tool, a waseela, for doing the work of the people for Huqooq ul Ibad. I am more or less, happy with the results. Muk-Mukka = insider agreement ... for those who dont know urdu
  8. ^ I think, Mutaa is mainly in dealing with the non-muslim race, where women have already implicit or explicit blank checque permission to go and establish sexual or matrimonial relations by their own will (mutual consent), and where muslim law or social norms cannot be demanded or enforced. In the 60s to present it was that Islam was looked down upon. Today, Islam has greater power simply because more people are now knowledgeable and admire Islam based on its intellectual gems of all kinds in it. So today, mutaa is less needed and you can safely press your prospective bride to enter into Islamic Nikah without the fear of early and premature rupture in the hope that time will bring a deeper understanding of Islam.
  9. ^ you are too BUZDILL. You just get scared when I post this here and find excuses and nicks and post tactics to mask my posts from others, rather than let it persist and get more views. how many nicks you have made, Darth Vadera, "inshaAllah", and all the nicks you have but just one style of writing.
  10. People are FED UP with MQM TERRORISTS and PPP LOOTERS and PML Pudgy Kashmiri child labor abusers foundry and carpet weavers, and Corpulent Mullas. The best nation in our region is the Khorasan, which is Iran and Afghans. Iran - compare their history in DEEP detail with the Normans, VIkings, Yanquis and all the races of europe, from ATTILLA the Hun, Khazars, Slavs - was the most civilized people. Cyrus the Great, Praised in Quran, issued the first BILL OF RIGHTS for his subjects and Persians minimally engaged in any wars with the neighbors. The Afghans, never bowed themselves to any outside power. During the Afghan Jihad against the Soviets, the Cursed al-Saud had entered the game to counter Iran due to the Revolution. So they started an ANTI-IRAN game in the region by giving WAHHABI type literature to the Taliban and Mujahideen, who were otherwise the flower of humanity, chivalry and fortitude. This is the nation, which will now defeat the NORMAN/VIKING elite of Europe, the Yanquis, and some even call them, Gog and Magog and the last remnants of the Neanderthals on the planet. They will be hunted down by the Afghans as soon as they get Quality weapons like the Stingers and the Taliban will see how they get out of there, as they got out of Vietnam. The Taliban are THIRSTY for revenge. The Drones are an instrument of inducing and maintaining STOCKHOLM Syndrome in the Pakistani nation. As soon as 9-11 falseflag happened, the TERRORIST MQM and Altaf Hussein, allied with the YANQUIS and started calling the HONORABLE TALIBAN as Terrorists. We have SOLID PROOF of their IDIOCITY in this video Now, Imran Khan did Mutaa with Sita White and when he realized that she was TRASH, he had no hesitation in dumping the WHITE TRASH. That is a brave leader who was able to accept his mistake and RECTIFY it even though it meant accepting he made a mistake. The fat and pudgy MQM, Corpulent "Mullas" are not like that. The honor and blood of the Honorable Afghan Nation will be avenged and - Imran is not fighting the Pudgy child-labor user, but the TRAITOR and PUPPET Hamid Karzai. This election is not a simple election, it is a battle in the COMPLEX end-times War against Gog and Magog, Wahhabis, Zionists, Khazars and so on. The leaders must judged in this complex context, as no one is perfect and you have to judge what is essential versus what is peripheral in this struggle. Only Allah grants victory.
  11. as someone in this forum used to spell, in Amerikkka
  12. Gillani's son is crying. Because he sold the sovereignty of the state and the lives of the citizens to the yanqui drones, killing the innocent citizens. He made a deal with the enemy of the FALSE-FLAGGER enemy of the people of Pakistan to kill the citizens inside the national borders. For this, the other parties are free to take revenge, when and as they see fit and Afghan Taliban are BLOOD THIRSTY for the lives of 40000 Yanquis to quench their thirst for one-for-one revenge. I am just an analyst and observer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2Vl4MH3D6Mg To be precise, profligate Yanquis, Misled by Greedy and Deceitful KHAZAR Banksters. Top Comments Sven Kuntze 2 weeks ago Granny’s secret neocon kosher recipe: 1. Scare the [Edited Out] out of US voters with terrorist attacks 2. Invade Arab country with massive oil reserves 3. Sell lots of weapons; extract oil and stand by Afghani poppy fields 4. Crush the Bill of Rights and censor the internet 5. Crack the global economy and split Arab countries in pieces 6. Scare the [Edited Out] out of US voters again 7. Invade Persian country with tons more oil reserves 8. Invite Israeli friends and serve with finger biscuits and champagne · 6 supergeten2 1 week ago I don´t know, but I think this video has a point... Hmm, Jews are sneaky! · 3
  13. Imran Khan is the best candidate. The corpulent religious clergy cannot fight, nor wield guns. This forum is baised and banned me on OSTENSIBLE fake reasons, and a few people here manufacture multiple nicks and personas to post and manufacture a feeling of activity, while there are really few knowledgeable members on this forum. http://www.zemtv.com...e-9th-may-2013/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9XgaEECbWHY Gillani's son has been abducted. It is either a falseflag or because Gillani backstabbed the citizens of Pakistan by allowing YANQUIs to DRONE and KILL Them. Munaffiq Shia's of India and Pakistan (distinct from honest shias as even Iran imprisons and executes Iranian shia women for poisoning their husbands and shia iranians for motorcycle bombing their own scientists) do not whine and complain when the descendents of Mujahideen (Afghan and Pakistani Taliban and Tribals of FATA) are murdered by Yanqui Drones, while these pakistani shia PATSIES or IMBECILES S-C-R-E-A-M on any scratch to Iran including the drones for espionage to Iran. Pakistani Shia should treat pakistan as equal to Iran at the least, if not pakistani interest FIRST. Imran Khan keeps pakistan's interest first, but his policy is wholesome and beneficial for the whole region. Karzai is YANQUI Puppet and also a Puppet of India. He is Machiavellian and for his survival to go to the extent of destruction of Afghanistan and Pakistan. His recent attacks on Pakistan is directed to creating a schism between pakistan and directing the anger of Afghan Mujahideen (Afghan Taliban) towards Pakistan rather than the Yanqui invaders. Election of Imran Khan will destroy the Pakhtun Race Card that he intends to use. That is why, PM Imran Khan, a KHORASANI, will kill two birds with one stone. Imran Khan keeps pakistan's interest first, but his policy is wholesome and beneficial for the whole region. Gillani, PPP+PML was supposed to reverse the U-Turn of Musharraf, but it did not and the natural reaction would be for the Taliban to abduct his son (if it is not a PPP falseflag) as they have kept Zardari's son hidden also and playing the game of sympathy vote.
  14. The HALAL food Dilemma - Poorly fed animal Suppose you are here in the USA and your mosque, whether shia, sunni, wahhabi or sufi says, Eat HALAL meat. Eat Halal Fish. So you go to an Iranian Restaurant. What do you get there? HEART ATTACK Halal Chicken that is SALINE INJECTED with SODIUM CHLORIDE or even Ammonia or Nitrate Washed. I have done EXTENSIVE FIELD RESEARCH on Halal. I have not found any source of CERTIFIABLY Healthy, Chicken, Goat, Beef, or Fish. The fish are mercury poisoned. The Chicken are fed on steroids and antibiotics and all kind of including their own ground meat and such, OR the price is obscenely high above market for NON-HALAL health food. The goat and other animals are not very healthy looking. The pakistani restaurants and Iranian restaurants have THIRD CLASS, HEART ATTACK, HALAL MEAT with FAT and SKIN, full of the bad CHOLESTEROL. Because, after 9-11 the EURO-FASCISTS and the YANKEE-FASCISTS started a WAR on Islam to destroy and PERSECUTE and EXPEL muslims, and take away our oil, gold, nickel, copper, niobium, uranium, tantalum, titanium, tungsten, molybdenum and other resources dirt-cheap, and also to shock our people and children into becoming and breaking our spirit and calling us TERRORISTS, when the biggest criminal race on the planet per capita crime is the european with 5 times crime rate per capita than Asians, while the khazar rate is a very special madoffian-romanpolanskian number. We must do THOROUGH and BULLET-PROOF Research in all matters of FOOD, SURVIVAL and HEALTH. In the past, our religious establishments have done ONLY SHODDY research in all matters such as even money,banking and RIBBA, and this INCLUDES the Iranian Shia and Sunni from Pakistan and Wahhabi from Saudi and Sufi are the poorest and weakest with not even a state. Now, I squarely place the responsibility for this SHORTCOMING on the Clergy and Clerical establishments (Both Shia and Sunni and Salafi and Sufi) to start a MODEL farming operation that is shown to be economically VIABLE where land ownership is by muslims and sustainable to produce meat and food that is the highest quality and with a tour of the labs. I have a number of ideas but if I try to lift a crane, alone, my back would break. It needs a group of people to do this. I can tell you that all the iranian and persian restaurants with those big fillets of chicken kabobs covered with cheese is HEART ATTACK MATERIAL The chicken is SALINE injected to keep it tender. I have confirmed with restaurants. In addition, the chicken that is called HALAL is actually MACHINE SLITTED. The muslim community due to poverty has a CANNIBALIZATION phenomena going on, where a muslim business will first SCREWS its own muslim. I have found this with muslim doctors and dentists, with poor OUTDATED equipment and so on. Our community is UNIVERSALLY suppressed - and we need UNITY to get out of the economic TRAP or we will be swallowed by EUROPEAN RACISTS and FASCISTS as the KHAZARS swallowed all the tribes in and around Khazaria - the last being the BULGARS. The SCUM of the SOLAR system, the Wicked George W Bush, before his RACIST and CRIMINAL false-flag of 9-11 in collusion with the INCOMPETENT FBI bustards (who never barked the TRUTH of 9-11) have destroyed our CHARITIES and he also destroyed the TAX of the American people by giving REFUNDS to the RICHEST before unveiling and STARTING his SCHEME of 9-11 and Iraq. Ofcourse, the criminal euro-yanqui-racists dont have to prove their lies, but we have to prove our truths and the video testimonial is below
  15. Hey, European Racist, the Khazars are EUROPEAN, and you ANTI-SEMITES should take them back. http://www.presstv.i...fight-in-syria/ VERY TRUE. A fascinating model for the EXPULSION of muslims by EUROPEAN RACIST oil and gas THEIVES. May Allah's CURSE be on Ibne-Sauds for selling oil DIRT cheap to the YANKEES and not EXERTING leverage when they could. I urge the muslims to learn to FIGHT in the courts, share knowledge of business and manufacturing, and have large number of children and give them healthy foods to compete with other races and ESTABLISH as a SUCCESSFUL community in the USA like the EUROPEAN KHAZAR JEWS. excellent cardiovascular exercise.
  16. ^ The far-reaching implications of this hypothesis may explain the great caution exercised by historians in approaching this subject -- if they do not avoid it altogether. Even though, the facts of non-semitic are obvious on their face, in their voice, and the color of their hairs and eyes. Many years ago, I started my quest for this hypothesis based on these basic facts before I even knew the word "khazar" which was after 9-11, after iraq invasion, and after I knew Mr Benjamin Freedman's speech, ie after youtube emerged. A lot of their FAMILY SECRETS have now come into open after their SPECIAL 9-11 falseflag.
  17. try to post here so others can also benefit I wanna encourage sharing and exorcise the hiding of knowledge and intra-competition and encourage cooperation which is why your recent forefathers were the slaves of the brits and you speak english and write in it, continue with it if you like your kids to be of slavish mentality ................ sorry if my attitude makes you unhappy as your attitude and of the muslim people and the races making it up drives me crazy as they dont want to be slaves but DO EXACTLY WHAT TAKES THEM TO THAT DESTINY.
  18. Dismayed by Vali Nasr's pussilanimous defense of Iranian or Shia national interest (and sold out to the US completely), and also the wahhabi guided process of flushing the Arab countries of their militant or unsatisfied youth and baiting them to take to another country to kill them and use them. The Al-Saud Yazeedis loved the Afghan Jihad against the soviets in the era of the DRINKER and the Drunkard, Fahd as an efficient method to flush their own youth. To shut down Dr Al-Masari, they, with the help of Israeli Jews and Neocons, and Bush, carried out the 9-11 Falseflag to put Al-Masri type CONSTITUTIONALISTS on the BACK FOOT. The Jews of Los Angeles Times even wrote once very clear, "it is NOT the extremists who are our enemy, but it is the MODERATES who are our enemy" because they want irrational extremists to dominate the discourse and then justify to the whole world the GENOCIDE of the muslims. That is why I say, Iran made a big big mistake by not listening to pakistan and not doing enrichment and not doing a military program. The Nuclear weapon is a DETERRANT. If you have that, you will most likely never have to get into direct conventional or nuclear war or else you will end up busting each other's cities and one has to be ready for that to avoid it. You have to be ready to die any moment, and you may have a chance to live. The NEOCONS and Khazars, the allies and descendents of Attila the Hun, have for centuries faught to take others resources and with TRECHERY and DECEIT and FALSE-FLAGS. What they are doing is making us fight each other, as in a [Edited Out] FIGHT. First sunni, then shia, like a see-saw. I urge all Islamic scholars not to give them correct data. Give them CONFUSED data. I had a discussion with an NEOCON agent, of CIA or MOSSAD around 1995-98 on the internet newsgroup, alt.war.nuclear and he was saying in veiled threats about "we will have to do something" and I said, we can now develop and IGNORE you and keep you out of the borders, as we have peace and the guy made veiled threats. Then I asked how are you going to IGNITE the [Edited Out] fight. So, 9-11 is their answer on how to IGNITE the [Edited Out] fight. I also perceived that Russia would be back after the first chechen war and some conciliatory approach was needed with a neighbor, as the other backstabbers would come. I also surmised Libyan Invasion, but for a different reason of the oil being on the Mediterranean without strait of Hormuz and had surmised on this forum but could not figure out that they would use this kind of combination rather than an open direct attack. Of course, after the Raymond Davis, the Khazars had to do something like their partial ancestor, Attila the Hun to destroy peace and development of other nations around the world. Guys, start making every product yourself. Do not crave for any western product and do not give up the effort or research to figure out the technology. The word is خود کفالت in every field.
  19. Chapter 24: Origin of the Huns. (121) But after a short space of time, as Orosius relates, the race of the Huns, fiercer than ferocity itself, flamed forth against the Goths. We learn from old traditions that their origin was as follows: Filimer, king of the Goths, son of Gadaric the Great, who was the fifth in succession to hold the rule of the Getae after their departure from the of Scandza, -- and who, as we have said, entered the land of Scythia with his tribe, -- found among his people certain witches, whom he called in his native tongue Haliurunnae. Suspecting these women, he expelled them from the midst of his race and compelled them to wander in solitary exile afar from his army. (122) There the unclean spirits, who beheld them as they wandered through the wilderness, bestowed their embraces upon them and begat this savage race, which dwelt at first in the swamps, -- a stunted, foul and puny tribe, scarcely human, and having no language save one which bore but slight resemblance to human speech. Such was the descent of the Huns who came to the country of the Goths. (123) This cruel tribe, as Priscus the historian relates, settled on the farther bank of the Maeotic swamp. They were fond of hunting and had no skill in any other art. After they had grown to a nation, they disturbed the peace of neighboring races by theft and rapine. At one time, while hunters of their tribe were as usual seeking for game on the farthest edge of Maeotis, they saw a doe unexpectedly appear to their sight and enter the swamp, acting as guide of the way; now advancing and again standing still. (124) The hunters followed and crossed on foot the Maeotic swamp, which they had supposed was impassable as the sea. Presently the unknown land of Scythia disclosed itself and the doe disappeared. Now in my opinion the evil spirits, from whom the Huns are descended, did this from envy of the Scythian. (125) And the Huns, who had been wholly ignorant that there was another world beyond Maeotis, were now filled with admiration for the Scythian land. As they were quick of mind, they believed that this path, utterly unknown to any age of the past, had been divinely revealed to them. They returned to their tribe, told them what had happened, praised Scythia and persuaded the people to hasten thither along the way they had found by the guidance of the doe. As many as they captured, when they thus entered Scythia for the first time, they sacrificed to Victory. The remainder they conquered and made subject to themselves. (126) Like a whirlwind of nations they swept across the great swamp and at once fell upon the Alpidzuri, Alcildzuri, Itimari, Tuncarsi and Boisci, who bordered on that part of Scythia. The Alani also, who were their equals in battle, but unlike them in civilization, manners and appearance, they exhausted by their incessant attacks and subdued. (127) For by the terror of their features they inspired great fear in those whom perhaps they did not really surpass in war. They made their foes flee in horror because their swarthy aspect was fearful, and they had, if I may call it so, a sort of shapeless lump, not a head, with pin-holes rather than eyes. Their hardihood is evident in their wild appearance, and they are beings who are cruel to their children on the very day they are born. For they cut the cheeks of the males with a sword, so that before they receive the nourishment of milk they must learn to endure wounds. (128) Hence they grow old beardless and their young men are without comeliness, because a face furrowed by the sword spoils by its scars the natural beauty of a beard. They are short in stature, quick in bodily movement, alert horsemen, broad shouldered, ready in the use of bow and arrow, and have firm-set necks which are ever erect in pride. Though they live in the form of men, they have the cruelty of wild beasts. (129) When the Getae beheld this active race that had invaded many nations, they took fright and consulted with their king how they might escape from such a foe. Now although Hermanaric, king of the Goths, was the conqueror of many tribes, as we have said above, yet while he was deliberating on this invasion of the Huns, the treacherous tribe of the Rosomoni, who at that time were among those who owed him their homage, took this chance to catch him unawares. For when the king had given orders that a certain woman of the tribe I have mentioned, Sunilda by name, should be bound to wild horses and torn apart by driving them at full speed in opposite directions (for he was roused to fury by her husband's treachery to him), her brothers Sarus and Ammius came to avenge their sister's death and plunged a sword into Hermanaric's side. Enfeebled by this blow, he dragged out a miserable existence in bodily weakness. (130) Balamber, king of the Huns, took advantage of his ill health to move an army into the country of the Ostrogoths, from whom the Visigoths had already separated because of some dispute. Meanwhile Hermanaric, who was unable to endure either the pain of his wound or the inroads of the Huns, died full of days at the great age of one hundred and ten years. The fact of his death enabled the Huns to prevail over those Goths who, as we have said, dwelt in the East and were called Ostrogoths.
  20. Jordanes - The Origin and Deeds of the Goths - Part of a Thesis, English Trans by Charles Gaius Mierow, Phd __ dept 1908 Princeton Univ, 108pgs.pdf Chapter 35: Attila the Hun. (180) Now this Attila was the son of Mundiuch, and his brothers were Octar and Ruas who are said to have ruled before Attila, though not over quite so many tribes as he. After their death he succeeded to the throne of the Huns, together with his brother Bleda. In order that he might first be equal to the expedition he was preparing, he sought to increase his strength by murder. Thus he proceeded from the destruction of his own kindred to the menace of all others. (181) But though he increased his power by this shameful means, yet by the balance of justice he received the hideous consequences of his own cruelty. Now when his brother Bleda, who ruled over a great part of the Huns, had been slain(1) by his treachery, Attila united all the people under his own rule. Gathering also a host of the other tribes which he then held under his sway, he sought to subdue the foremost nations of the world -- the Romans and the Visigoths. (182) His army is said to have numbered five hundred thousand men. He was a man born into the world to shake the nations, the scourge of all lands, who in some way terrified all mankind by the dreadful rumors noised abroad concerning him. He was haughty in his walk, rolling his eyes hither and thither, so that the power of his proud spirit appeared in the movement of his body. He was indeed a lover of war, yet restrained in action, mighty in counsel, gracious to suppliants and lenient to those who were once received into his protection. He was short of stature, with a broad chest and a large head; his eyes were small, his beard thin and sprinkled with gray; and he had a flat nose and a swarthy complexion, showing the evidences of his origin. (183) And though his temper was such that he always had great self-confidence, yet his assurance was increased by finding the sword of Mars, always esteemed sacred among the kings of the Scythians. The historian Priscus says it was discovered under the following circumstances: "When a certain shepherd beheld one heifer of his flock limping and could find no cause for this wound, he anxiously followed the trail of blood and at length came to a sword it had unwittingly trampled while nibbling the grass. He dug it up and took it straight to Attila. He rejoiced at this gift and, being ambitious, thought he had been appointed ruler of the whole world, and that through the sword of Mars supremacy in all wars was assured to him." (1) 445 AD Chapter 36: Battle of the Catalaunic Fields. Preliminaries.[451 AD] (184) Now when Gaiseric, king of the Vandals, whom we mentioned shortly before, learned that his mind was bent on the devastation of the world, he incited Attila by many gifts to make war on the Visigoths, for he was afraid that Theodorid, king of the Visigoths, would avenge the injury done to his daughter. She had been joined in wedlock with Huneric, the son of Gaiseric, and at first was happy in this union. But afterwards he was cruel even to his own children, and because of the mere suspicion that she was attempting to poison him, he cut off her nose and mutilated her ears. He sent her back to her father in Gaul thus despoiled of her natural charms. So the wretched girl presented a pitiable aspect ever after, and the cruelty which would stir even strangers still more surely incited her father to vengeance. (185) Attila, therefore, in his efforts to bring about the wars long ago instigated by the bribe of Gaiseric, sent ambassadors into Italy to the Emperor Valentinian to sow strife between the Goths and the Romans, thinking to shatter by civil discord those whom he could not crush in battle. He declared that he was in no way violating his friendly relations with the empire, but that he had a quarrel with Theodorid, king of the Visigoths. As he wished to be kindly received, he filled the rest of the letter with the usual flattering salutations, striving to win credence for his falsehood. (186) In like manner he despatched a message to Theodorid, king of the Visigoths, urging him to break his alliance with the Romans and reminding him of the battles to which they had recently provoked him. Beneath his great ferocity he was a subtle man, and fought with craft before he made war. Then the Emperor Valentinian sent an embassy to the Visigoths and their king Theodorid, with this message: (187) "Bravest of nations, it is the part of prudence for us to unite against the lord of the earth who wishes to enslave the whole world; who requires no just cause for battle, but supposes whatever he does is right. He measures his ambition by his might. License satisfies his pride. Despising law and right, he shows himself an enemy to Nature herself. And thus he, who clearly is the common foe of each, deserves the hatred of all. (188) Pray remember -- what you surely cannot forget -- that the Huns do not overthrow nations by means of war, where there is an equal chance, but assail them by treachery, which is a greater cause for anxiety. To say nothing about ourselves, can you suffer such insolence to go unpunished? Since you are mighty in arms, give heed to your own danger and join hands with us in common. Bear aid also to the empire, of which you hold a part. If you would learn how such an alliance should be sought and welcomed by us, look into the plans of the foe." (189) By these and like arguments the ambassadors of Valentinian prevailed upon king Theodorid. He answered them, saying: "Romans, you have attained your desire; you have made Attila our foe also. We will pursue him wherever he summons us, and though he is puffed up by his victories over divers races, yet the Goths know how to fight this haughty foe. I call no war dangerous save one whose cause is weak; for he fears no ill on whom Majesty has smiled." (190) The nobles shouted assent to the reply and the multitude gladly followed. All were fierce for battle and longed to meet the Huns, their foe. And so a countless host was led forth by Theodorid, king of the Visigoths, who sent home four of his sons, namely Friderich and Eurich, Retemer and Mimnerith, taking with him only the two elder sons, Thorismud and Theodorid, as partners of his toil. O brave array, sure defense and sweet comradeship, having the aid of those who delight to share in the same dangers! (191) On the side of the Romans stood the patrician Aetius, on whom at that time the whole empire of the West depended; a man of such wisdom that he had assembled warriors from everywhere to meet them on equal terms. Now these were his auxiliaries: Franks, Sarmatians, Armoricians, Liticians, Burgundians, Saxons, Riparians, Olibriones (once Romans soldiers and now the flower of the allied forces), and some other Celtic or German tribes. (192) And so they met in the Catalaunian Plains, which are also called Mauriacian, extending in length one hundred leuva, as the Gauls express it, and seventy in width. Now a Gallic leuva measures a distance of fifteen hundred paces. That portion of the earth accordingly became the threshing-floor of countless races. The two hosts bravely joined battle. Nothing was done under cover, but they contended in open fight. (193) What just cause can be found for the encounter of so many nations, or what hatred inspired them all to take arms against each other? It is proof that the human race lives for its kings, for it is at the mad impulse of one mind a slaughter of nations takes place, and at the whim of a haughty ruler that which nature has taken ages to produce perishes in a moment. Event: Battle of Catalaunic Field the Huns do not overthrow nations by means of war, where there is an equal chance, but assail them by treachery, which is a greater cause for anxiety.
  21. History in perspective http://www.apfn.org/thewinds/library/khazars.html http://deen-al-islam.org/Spread%20of%20Islam%20and%20Timeline.htm I find it fascinating that perhaps 200years before the Holy Prophet's birth the Khazars or Atilla the Hun were swallowing up other tribes in eastern europe and Mediterranean. And during his lifetime or shortly thereafter, they finally defeated the Bulgars. The Prophet himself proclaimed in his lifetime that Gog and Magog have made a hole in the wall built by Zulqarnain.
  22. good job friend. this is the kind of spirit of sharing and discussing that can lead us closer to Allah's mercy. always, share knowledge and share the best of your gems of knowledge and insight.
  23. This will not work. The Iranians and Arabs are both too proud. The first will be the issue of language. The iranians are generally more KHUSH-AMAD to the white european races. While Pakistanis welcome all races and nations, even many arabs,afghans,chechens,etc settled in pakistan and married before 9-11 lived well, this may not be the case in other countries. For example, Urdu language has 30% persian, 30% arabic and rest hindi and turkish words. I dont know if Persian ever took words from sindhi or punjabi or balochi in such scale. I am just playing devil's advocate in the post above. :no: :no:
  24. It is not possible to properly advise you without more DATA. (1) whats your education and job and nationality and of the other guy? (2) which city our country do you live? (3) what do your parents do as a job? (4) which sibling of yours got divorced and how does he/she now live alone? (5) what type of proposals did you get and did your parents discuss those with you and analyse them with you from various angles as in normal family discussion? (6) the 20 days of mutaa that you did with the other guy, what kinds of things did you do and what do you mean by no haram? where I come from, ie pakistan, there is a saying, scratch a shia and find a secularist. the pakistani society is becoming very secular and actually polarized between both seculars and devout religious (now being called fundamentalists) and Hamza Alvi cited this saying in his book in 1980s while doing research on a grant from USA to go to villages and field of pakistan to gather this data, most probably for the designs of CIA,Mossad and Raw. Anyway that may be off-topic, so I wanna know some of the other things to find out more if you are a "liberal" shia and can discuss these details which I assume, pakistani "liberal" women dont shy from at all these days. The Iranian woman are also very straightforward in these matters. I know, girls would cry and get their things accepted by the family and that is why I suspect that you are probably a guy, making a story, but I am sorry if I made an error. The standard operating procedure in the instinct of a woman is to sit in a corner and look hurt and be crying and the parents are willing to accept any reasonable demand.
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