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rach

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  1. When the war in Syria started one of our big tablieg mosques called people to go fight Assad and get the country back into the hands of sunni muslims, now already there have been South Africans in Syria fighting along side Isis. Quite a few tablieg mosques here don't openly say it but it's known that they are very much for taliban and extremists.
  2. Lol they say talking to yourself is not insanity, insanity is when you answer your questions...... and yes I do talk to myself, I have a very creative mind for poetry so when I write poems I'm always talking to myself, also when I watch rugby of football I shout at the TV not just talk.....
  3. I have read a little about them. I just say Shukr Rabbi the brother came back to islam. Is the tj like this in other countries aswell?
  4. Salaam walikom brothers and sisters, I got a message today from a friend and wanted to hear what you all think. Here in South Africa the tablieg Jamaat is funded by Saudi (so I hear), and are always singing the praises of Saudi and taliban. They serve here as the Salafi who give us Shia a hard time constantly spreading nonesense about us, this is not intended to put any sect down I'm just curious to hear everyone else's thoughs, a lot of my acquaintances are tj, just wanna hear people's thoughts. Gonna add the message I received. A POST FROM A MUSLIM BOY,AS TO WHAT LEAD HIM TO BECOME AN ATHEIST. BUT THROUGH SELF STUDY Allah GUIDED HIM BACK TO ISLAAM. I came from a public school. When I was in primary school I went to sunni sufi madressa and to me back then a Muslim was a Muslim. But in high school I went to Orient, controlled largely by Deobandis. There i was introduced to what a surthi is, what a memon and urdu is, barelwis and Deobandis etc. And all had their own cliques. Cliques matter a lot to Deobandis. Even here group loyalty of Deobandis is cult like. But anyway, although Orient was an "islamic" school, most secular teachers were non Muslim at that time. I spent years getting educated by these wonderful teachers, but at the same time told by the Deobandi moulanas about how they are kuffar, mongrels destined for Jahanam. As if that is not enough, I and other barelwis were often scrutinised by other deobandi students, called grave worshippers, Bidatis, in and out of kufr. There was constant pressurising encouragement to join deobandi movement. Deobandi students would lie and cheat and vandalise school property and be rest assured by deobandi moulanas that they were on the right path since they had Kurthas and long beards while I wore shirt and pants and had no beard. If your pants was too long, hellfire. Look at girls, hellfire. Miss one salaah, hellfire. You could treat other people however [Edited Out] you want especially if they kuffar, and just read your salaah and all will be fine. Salaah was like a competition. At the end of every holiday, you go back to school and asked in class whether you read all your salaah. Hafiz of Quran were to be treated very well and glorified, even if they were delinquent vandals taking drugs. And all students were brainwashed to always be dependent on their deobandi ulema. Actual reading of Quranic meaning on your own was discouraged. Must let the ulema teach you about faith. In short Islam was presented to me as a dogmatic system of control, filled with arrogance, self righteousness and hatred for kuffar, worshipping a God that was essentially a sadistic child looking for any dumb excuse to throw us into hell. So I left what I saw as a hellish religion. Of course I couldn't tell anyone about it since it would invite more prejudice. I didnt want to create a big scene at home either. I pretended with family to still be Muslim, but in truth i was an atheist for nearly 2 years until I began reading Futuh al Ghaib and read a translation of the Quran for myself. Then I realised that there was nothing wrong with Islam. Just something very wrong with Deobandi Muslims and ulema. I became Muslim again, but became my own Muslim. I judge for myself who is learned and deserving of respect or not, and don't care at all for ulema institutions, nor any religious hierarchy including sufi hierarchies. As recieved
  5. Salaam walikom sorry I don't check shiachat every day but have been meaning to reply. It's nice that even though we disagree on our school of thought we can have a constructive conversation. Oh and by the way I'd never burn down anyone's house lol.... I will agree that islam at its start was strengthened by Umar, this is a fact that although many of the Shia brothers will disagree with but is proof, but the answer is why, was it Umar as a person who strengthened islam with divine wisdom and qualities of someone wise? Or was it because Umar was known to be one of the most strongest warriors? I believe it was the second as you have said a few of his characteristics. When Umar became muslim he automatically made a statement that he, as this really amazing feared warrior was now siding with the muslims. This ment that someone who is feared by many soldiers and fighters is now part of the people who they are trying to break. ‎ Your question was what happened after the event of Thursday, well according to History of Ya’qubi, v2, pp 115-116 and ‎ Ansab Ashraf, by al-Baladhuri, v1, pp 582,586‎ ‎, Abu Bakr on his death bed said "I wish I had not searched for Fatimah’s house, and had not sent men to harass her, though it would have caused a war if her house would have continued to be used as a shelter."‎ This shows that Abu Bakr lived with some sort of regret. Now we are talking about Abu Bakr, not Umar, I could understand from your view point if this Hadith mentioned Umar, but Abu Bakr was not sumone who would act in a way he would later regret. Just to mention some Hadiths from sources used by sunni muslims, I want to use the following for your ref : Sahih al-Bukhari Arabic-English, v5, Traditions #61 and #111 and Sahih Muslim, section of virtues of Fatimah, v4, pp 1904-5. It says: The Messenger of Allah (S) had frequently said: "Fatimah is a part of me. Whoever makes her angry, makes me angry.", ‎ So we know that Fatima as after this incident was made angry by Abu Bakr and Umar, and if we take this Hadith as is the Prophet saw is also made angry towards them. In the sunni books Seerah al Halabiyah, vol 3 p 391 -400 and in Fadak in History, Murtaza Muttaheri, p 85 and Fatimah the Gracious, Abu Muhammad Ordoni, 217 - 240 ‎ Fatima talks to the people and tells them they are wrong for not standing up to the people who had usurped her land, if the people then would not have stood up to Abu Bakr and Umar, why would they have stood up later in the kalifat of Umar. In ‎Ansab Ashraf, by al-Baladhuri in his , v1, pp 582-586‎ it says that when they surrounded the house of fathima she was furious, what reward would they receive for angering the daughter of Prophet like that as. In the book Kanz al-Ummal, v3, p140‎Umar said to Fatimah (who was behind the door of her house): "I know that the Prophet of God did not love any one more than you, but this will not stop me to carry out my decision. If these people stay in your house, I will burn the door in front of you." This shows that if they opposed Umar he wouldn't have hesitated to hurt Fatima as. In Sahih Bukhari Hadith: 5.54. When Ali told Abu Bakr to come alone, it states that he disliked Umar after the event, take note no where else does it say that imam Ali made peace with Umar after it, I know somewhere it's mentioned that Ali said if he had 40 men with him he would have fought back. Il keep checking my books to find that narration just can't remember at the moment. So to answer your question there was dislike between Ali as and Umar after the event and I haven't found a narration that says they made peace. There are even some narrations that say Abu Bakr after Fatima spoke about inheritance gave her her rights but Umar refused it. ‎ But through all this Allah and his messenger know best, I'm just someone who reads.
  6. Lmao...... I'd love a platinum ring with aqeeq or dhure Najaf in.......
  7. I respect your perspective, but let me ask you this, if I went to a well loved sunni sheikh and threatened to burn down his house because of what ever reason, would I be in the right even if it was for a reason in the Quraan and Hadith? Burning down the house of someone is in a way threatening them.
  8. Salaam walikom, thank you my brother you are right, please excuse my mistake. The narration is from another sunni book (Ansaabul Ashraaf).... please excuse the mistake it was on my part. The reference I was looking for (Ansaabul Ashraaf 1:586), where Umar says he will burn the house of Bibi Fatima. Again I am human and mistakenly mentioned sahi Bukhari. The book they want to change is used a lot by the deobandi brothers and tabliegh jamaati brothers. Which is classed as the largest of the sunni sect if I'm not mistaken. Again jezukakalh for pointing it out brother Bukhari8k
  9. No my brother this was in sahi Bukhari, but if u claim it wasn't fine deny the truth if you want.
  10. And I disagree with that video. Why can't I as a person question what I read. This mentality of not questioning Hadith is the same thing the church did in the dark ages trying to blind people to not question what they read. The sunni try and tell so many good hearted people not to question things when we have been given intellect to question what's wrong.
  11. I see you are pushing for an argument, so il ask you my brother how do you explain the Hadith ghadir kumm? Before I ask my next question give me your thoughts concerning Prophet (sawwa) saying Ali (as) is the mouwla after him. And if the Khalifat was done by the decision of the people to choose who leads them and not Allah; ma sha Allah democratic I must say, why did Abu Bakr appoint Umar as leader and not leave the people to choose. Also do you think the events carried out by certain Sahabah are justified against the Prophets own flesh and blood?
  12. Let me quote from a book the sunni follow almost as much as the Quraan. Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 546 She remained alive for six months after the death of the Prophet. When she died, her husband 'Ali, buried her at night without informing Abu Bakr and he said the funeral prayer by himself. When Fatima was alive, the people used to respect 'Ali much, but after her death, 'Ali noticed a change in the people's attitude towards him. So Ali sought reconciliation with Abu Bakr and gave him an oath of allegiance. 'Ali had not given the oath of allegiance during those months (i.e. the period between the Prophet's death and Fatima's death). 'Ali sent someone to Abu Bakr saying, "Come to us, but let nobody come with you," as he disliked that 'Umar should come, 'Umar said (to Abu Bakr), "No, by Allah, you shall not enter upon them alone " Abu Bakr said, "What do you think they will do to me? By Allah, I will go to them' So Abu Bakr entered upon them, and then 'Ali uttered Tashah-hud and said (to Abu Bakr), "We know well your superiority and what Allah has given you, and we are not jealous of the good what Allah has bestowed upon you, but you did not consult us in the question of the rule and we thought that we have got a right in it because of our near relationship to Allah's Apostle.” Thereupon Abu Bakr's eyes flowed with tears. And when Abu Bakr spoke, he said, "By Him in Whose Hand my soul is to keep good relations with the relatives of Allah's Apostle is dearer to me than to keep good relations with my own relatives. But as for the trouble which arose between me and you about his property, I will do my best to spend it according to what is good, and will not leave any rule or regulation which I saw Allah's Apostle following, in disposing of it, but I will follow." On that 'Ali said to Abu Bakr, "I promise to give you the oath of allegiance in this after noon." So when Abu Bakr had offered the Zuhr prayer, he ascended the pulpit and uttered the Tashah-hud and then mentioned the story of 'Ali and his failure to give the oath of allegiance, and excused him, accepting what excuses he had offered; Then 'Ali (got up) and praying (to Allah) for forgiveness, he uttered Tashah-hud, praised Abu Bakr's right, and said, that he had not done what he had done because of jealousy of Abu Bakr or as a protest of that Allah had favored him with. 'Ali added, "But we used to consider that we too had some right in this affair (of rulership) and that he (i.e. Abu Bakr) did not consult us in this matter, and therefore caused us to feel sorry." On that all the Muslims became happy and said, "You have done the right thing." The Muslims then became friendly with 'Ali as he returned to what the people had done (i.e. giving the oath of allegiance to Abu Bakr). My first point, Ali buried Fatima away from people as Bibi Fatima had a grudge against Abu Bakr and Umar. If he was peaceful towards them he wouldn't do this. 2) for the oath on the behalf of Imam Ali take note he did not want Umar around. Why was Umar so scared of Imam Ali? Surely if he did nothing wrong would he be scared? Again when Imam Ali mentioned that he felt he had more right to Khalifat Abu Bakr cried.... he realised what he had did was wrong. If you look at this Hadith and many more you will note Imam Ali gave the oath because it's what the people wanted. What good would it have done to have this power when the ummah will dis unite destroying what Nabi (saw) has brought in perfect form where even Allah says not to break off into sects. Common logic also tells you that how can someone who has to resort to such measures to gain power any good. All respect to my brother and sister sunni, I'm just stating views of many people not looking to offend any one.
  13. Iv read somewhere or the other that the sunni ulama who publish sahi bukari have changed the wording in their bukari so it doesn't say Umar any more but a person or someone kicked the door and did that to Bibi Fatima (SA). Can anyone confirm if this is true? I think it's sad that so many commentators will justify the actions of the Sahabah for this deed. Iv read a few passages in numerous books and news letters published by our local anti Shia commities saying that: Umar and Abu Bakr did not want the ummah to fall apart during the period after Prophets (SAW) demise. Strange how they try so hard to defend those whose actions in any society would be classed as barbaric.
  14. Ahlul Bayt is the carriers of the knowledge of Rasul Allah and the keys to Janna. 

  15. My brother to comment on your post I might quote something wrong. This topic has been discussed and answered. I personally don't wear earnings or jewelry apart from my aqeeq and firuza rings, IL post the link that discussed it where people more knowledgeable than me debated it . Hope you find your answer there!
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