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Bismillah. I have heard many ideas on this topic. Everything from buy some land and x,y,z to making an Islamic University in the US (A real one, lol) even to buying an island or a cruise ship and declaring it an Islamic Republic. I don't know if any of these ideas are actually possible or feasible, but I would like to hear people's ideas. BTW, it doesn't have to be the US, just a large Western Country where there are alot of Muslims. List includes US, Canada, Britain, Australia, New Zealand / other European Countries. The goal is to have a large community where Muslims who live in the West could work and earn a living in a Western Country, as they do now, but at the same time live in a community that is free from Haram and / or compulsion to follow non muslims ideologies or rules and where the Deen could be practiced in every aspect. An essential component of this is to have a just and knowledgeable leadership. BTW I don't want posts to focus on Shia/Sunni differences. There are many Muslim communities in the US and other places (including Dearborn where I live) where Shia and Sunni live together, are friends, visit each others masajid, etc, and don't have any significant conflicts. The conflicts are almost always caused by outsider agitators. Also, if this ever happens anywhere, even outside the US, I will move there and my family will move there. I will also help in setting it up. The first thing I will look at though, is the leadership. Also, some people will say that Dearborn is the ideal Muslims community in the US and actually there are many Muslim families from other states who are moving here at this point. It is not a bad place to live but it is very far from an ideal community. The main reason (there are also other reasons) is that many of us pay up to 30% of our income in taxes and billions of dollars of these taxes go to support Zionism and the genocide of our brothers and sisters in Palestine and other places. This money is taken from us by force without our consent. If the community was ideal in every other way I was talking about (and it isn't, btw) just that one fact alone would be enough for me to want to move somewhere else so that I didn't have to have my money go to support Zionism. I am looking for that community and I will continue to look till I move on to the next phase of existence.

Only those who lack critical thinking skills and believe that Israel is a kind caring nation towards Gaza's children would swallow this garbage. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1570019/ The above mentioned article is when the Indian medical assn noticed an alarming increase in polio cases after a vaccination campaign. It's a well known fact among us in among us in the medical community that wild type poliovirus is much more rare and happens in places with deficient sewerage, poor hygiene and lack of clean water and water contaminated by raw sewage. Once clean water and hygiene standards are elevated, the polio rate and the rate of many other water borne chiodhood diseases rapidly diminish. For more education on this read the book "Turtles all the way down". Why do you think Islam stresses clean water, and large quantities over a Kurr for taharat. Read the book yourself and then decide for yourself, and don't listen to all the paid big pharma shills who want to make sure you never get your hands on such a subversive book or such topics. I can tell you many pediatric docs have read the book and recommend to others, but very quietly since no one wants to get in trouble. I was introduced to it during my medical training by my Pediatric professor when I saw vaccinated children in clinics coming in with higher rates of side effects like asthma and allergies and still getting the infection for which they had been vaccinated against....made no medical sense to me at the time. AFM acute flaccid myelitis which is an exact copy of known poliovirus signs and symptoms has been seen in areas where specific poliovirus vaccines batches were released. This was suddenly increasing in the US and UK and then the virus manufacturers had to rapidly change the vaccine formulation. Especially after the specific virus subtype used in the vaccine was found in these paralyzed children. I am glad there are people who have begun to realize post COVID and explosive growth of 12 billionaires in less than a year in the COVID vaccine industry that vaccines are big business, and quality and safety are too often neglected for rapid profits. The DNA contamination, metallic contamination and deaths in Japan, the alarming side effect profile which was buried by the vaccine manufacturers. They requested in court that the side effects and mortality data not even be released until 75 yrs after release and the US govt agreed. The post marketing surveillance data required by all medical manufacturers is still buried. No phase 3 and 4 data at all has been released or it was corrupted by allowing the non vaccinated arm of the trials to enter the vaccine arm, thereby destroying the integrity of a randomized controlled data. Just to make things clear it took Jeff Bezos of Amazon more than 10 years to become a billionaire, what these money minded big pharma guys did in less than 10 months. Always remember the goal of pharma companies is profits and their shareholders know it. They're happy to pay a fine for making a mistake as long as they make more than enough profits to cover their fines and mistakes. Remember Pfizer specifically had been levied with the highest fines in history based on poor manufacturing practices and bad medications. They happily paid having already made obscene profits. Also remember the some of our British brothers and sisters were all gung ho on the Oxford Astrazeneca COVID Vaccine saying it was safe and effective. They tried to censor anyone who was not pro vaccine, and tried to urge caution as we do with any new product. That COVID vaccine was withdrawn for devastating side effects and death. Now of course they used a Public Relations Crisis management team to come up with the excuse that new viral subtypes were not covered hence the withdrawal, REALLY....the other companies didn't have any problems with new subtypes... As for the useful idiots who parrot every govt line about vaccines and covid...remember the goal of govts is control and they are not benign in their intentions. They need to keep their populations stupid and controlled to stay in power. Keep that in mind when evaluating policies, and always use your mind that Allah gave to think first before making a decision or judgement.

Because there's Muslims in the west too and not everyone has the means to move overseas.

It's even more disheartening to think that some members here believe this is in interest of the Palestinians.......

Hi EiE Your welcome. I had the same thoughts as you. Isn't it amazing the have had no let up what so ever in their carnage, shooting at aid workers, and stopping food trucks. But yes they have come to save the Palestinian children with polio vaccines. After the destruction of the bio weapon jabs have caused, I hope the people of Palestine won't buy into this crap.

Thank you for bringing this topic up! There's and has always been some nefarious thoughts behind these campaigns. For months they have been killed and bombed, burnt alive, and now they feel pity for the Palestinians? What a load of crap. And I do hope that we have some intelligent people in the community that can mention this important subject, not only for the Palestinians but also for all of humanity.

There are many millions of Muslims who were born and raised in the West. They want to live in a society that reflects their values If u tell a Muslim who was born and raised in the West to just move to a Muslim country it's not that simple. Also like others have said there are many Muslim countries that only use the name but the actual systems of the country have nothing to do with Islam. Yes, I want it to exist for real. It already exists in my imagination.

Interesting question. I don't know of aHadith but here are the answers from Maraja: Response from Ayt. Sistani: Question: Is it permissible to soothe the senses by listening to the reciter of the Qur’an who recites in a vibrant, quavering tone? Answer: If the tune used in its recitation is not ghina’, there is no problem in listening to it. Source ---------- Response from Ayt. Mohammad Saeed Al-Hakeem: Question: Is it allowed to recite the Quran with notes and rhythms which are used for music or nasheed? Answer: It is not permissible if the recitation is with the rhythm of songs which are prohibited. It is preferable to avoid it even if it was without the prohibited rhythms if they were in a way that does not relate to the holiness of the Book and its sanctity. Question: The Sunnis have different modes of reciting the Quran (qira'at), the most popular being Asim (by way of Hafs) and Nafi (by way of Warsh), but also Ibn Kathir, Abu Amr, Ibn Amir, Hamza, Kisa'i, Khalaf, Ya'qub, and Abu Ja'far. Do the Ithna Ashariyah follow one of these, permit several of them, or do they have their own? Answer: The Shias do not have a specific mode of recitation. The Holy book of Allah can be recited by modes of recitation that were common amongst Muslims during the eras of the Imams (peace be upon them). The most popular one nowadays is Asim by the way Hafs, and it is best to keep to this recitation. Source ---------- Wikishia: According to scholars of Qur'anic recitation, Hafs's transmission of 'Asim's recitation is considered accurate due to its connected chain of transmission all the way back to the Prophet (s). They believe that 'Asim received his recitation directly from Imam 'Ali (a) through only one intermediary, Abu 'Abd al-Rahman al-Sullami. Source

You know its strange, especially after the last few years with the jabs and everything we are seeing happening from that now. I would have thought more people here might have also thought similar about the Palestinians and this so called humanitarian move- More ongoing ways to kill them.

Marriage becoming a big problem especially with social media (youtube, insta, tiktok, ...). It's not a western society issue anymore. It's in Islamic countries as well. Guys/Girls see how beautiful and handsome a partner should be (social media just shows the good stuff. it's a hoax), how wealthy and dreamy home he has, etc. They expect same from their partner.

Innalillahi wa inna ilaihi raji'oon, Ayatollah Sayyid Fadil Milani (rh) passed away today (2nd September, 2024). Requesting a fatiha for his departed soul.

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I think Muslims should continue living in the West, wherever they are now or in places where large Muslim communities are present like Dearborn which you have mentioned. Simply because it will negate the bad version of our religion that has been present in the West as well as to sway public opinion on matters like Palestine. Our Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) and Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) changed people's perceptions with their own examples and that cannot happen if non-Muslims in the west are isolated from those following Islam's teachings. You may ask Muslims living in the Muslim countries about the way they are living their lives and how their taxes are being used. I can point to many such countries where the Government is Islamic but only that. They won't allow free press or freedom of speech or even people coming out in support of Palestine. Whereas in West, despite all the issues, you have always had big rallies happening against Wars and now even for Palestine where folks from every religion, not just Islam, come out and are allowed. Sure, they arrest there too and they try to do other things as well to discourage people but those places are not kidnapping the people who raise their voices? As of today, I don't think there's a place present on this earth that can claim to be just and which doesn't have blood of the innocent on its hands - directly or indirectly. No one can claim that until Rise of the Qaim (ajtf). May Allah give us the chance to witness his Government and to be in his supporters.

As Salam Alakium, can anyone list any Sunni Mosques near the county of Huntingdon? I am a new Muslim and google maps is giving me false information, can anyone help or is this a wrong platform ?

I guess general rule of watching TV, Films and Movies will apply: Question: What is the ruling about watching films with sexual content? Answer: It is not permissible to watch such films (or pictures) with pleasure nor is it permissible to watch them without pleasure as an obligatory precaution. Question: There are some drama series with actresses playing without scarves. What is the Islamic law about watching those drama series without lustful intention? Answer: There is no problem in watching them in the said case. Question: There are some drama series, which promote and encourage illicit forbidden (Haram) relations, is it permissible to watch them? Answer: Watching the movies mentioned is forbidden if it influences the viewer and causes moral corruption or arousal. Furthermore on a mandatory precaution watching such movies is to avoided entirely if it contains sexually indecent scenes. https://www.sistani.org/english/qa/01195/ You can write to english@najaf.org for specific question to Office of Ayt. Sistani in London. They reply within few hours sometimes. https://najaf.org/english/

Wine in itself is one of the ritually impure thing so can't be used and food containing the same cannot be eaten i.e. red wine sauce is haram: Ruling 109.* Alcohol, whether industrial or medicinal, in all its types, is pure unless it is known and ascertained that the alcohol has been obtained from the vaporisation and distillation of grape wine, in which case it is impure. https://www.sistani.org/english/book/48/2135/ As far as I understand, when the word alcohol is used and mentioned, it is talking about the compound which is used in medicines and perfumes. Not the alcohol which is extracted from wine i.e. fermented beverages like wine and beer.

I think for many it's mostly a convenience issue. It's not always easy to find zabiha meat in the west, especially in rural regions. Or then there's situations like my own where some Muslims, particularly converts, may not be openly practicing for an array of different reasons. Purchasing actual zabiha meat would raise a lot of suspicions in those cases. However, I will say that more and more fast food chains are getting halal certification for their poultry products because they know that Muslims are a growing market they can tap into. That makes it possible to order poultry options from these places, as I tend to do. It's a way to follow the dietary restrictions without raising too many suspicions.

I don't know your situation. but you can teach and guide children through family members, volunteer work, child-centered employment, and more. Even if you can't be a parent, you can still participate in raising children. Duas that your life is meaningful.

Forgive Me, He was buried today in Najaf 7th September 2024. Here is a YouTube link for his Funeral

Salam it's highly recommended to do every kind of Dua for protection & asking for hastening reappearance of Imam Mahdi (aj) which one most recommended time & place is during Qunoot which is accepted dua during our Salah which both of our Salah/Namaz & dua of Qunoot will be accepted together inshaAllah. .

Innalillahi wa inna ilaihi raji'oon Salaam Alaykum, Regarding the funeral, from The Ayatollah's Instagram page a lot on Instagram stories have been shared regarding funeral processions in London and then they were brought to Najaf for Burial. https://www.instagram.com/al_milani/ Therefore I believe Ayatollah Sayed Fadhel Milani was buried on Friday (6th September 2024) in Najaf. Condolences to Ayatollah Sayed Fadhel Hosseini Milani (rh) family and The followers of Prophet Muhammad (sawa) and Ahlulbayt(عليه السلام) that he continual taught and inspired further in the direction of Truth and Righteousness. May he be Amongst his Honourable family in Jannah Al Firdous and raised to be amongst the help for Imam Mehdi(ajfj)

Iranian study published by U.S. National Institutes for Health https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4977979/

As Salam Alakium, my name is Avery, that’s all I gotta say, I love history and militaria.

The linked article postulates that because Israelis have been ok with killing lots of Palestinian kids, the sudden interest in vaccinating them is very suspicious i.e. the polio vaccine must have 'something bad in it'. Another explanation is this from the World Health Organisation (my bold). The story here is that given how easily it can spread if cases amongst Gazan's rise, it's only a matter of time before they spread to Israel. https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/poliomyelitis

May Allah accept him Ameen.

People are talking about this disease a lot, I hope it won't be like covid pandemic. May allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) protect us all.

There is another case in Sweden. If there is any vaccination invoked to protect us, I won’t be taking it.

Allahumma salli ala muhammadiw wa ali muhammadin wa ajjil faraja hum Rabbinee lima anzalta ilayya min khayrin faqir Allahumma innee urreedu an atazawwaja faqaddir lee minan nisaa-I a’fihunna farjajan wa ah’fadh’ihunna lee fee nafsihaa wa awsa-i-hunna lee rizwan wa a-dhamahunna lee barakatan fee nafsihaa wa maaleee faqaddir lee minhaa waladan tayyiban tajaluhoo khalafan saalihan fee hayaatee wa ba`da mawtee. Oh Allah! I desire to marry, so arrange for me a woman from those who willingly abstain from what is unlawful and who safeguards her soul for my sake and because of her, not only my means of sustenance will increase, but also make there be in it abundance and also make it sure that she will give me a virtuous son, who will be a noble successor in my life and after my death. Ya Rabb, help me in finding a good wife in the same boat as me, who also understands and accepts me as I am. May she find peace and be filled with joy wherever she goes. May she have the strength and courage to find me, love me and live with me. May she find and be filled with much wisdom and clarity in her words and from her experiences. May she in her kindness, share these experiences with me and help us grow together. Verily with hardship comes ease. (إِنَّ مَعَ الْعُسْرِ يُسْرًا - 94:6) Ya Rabb, You alone know what is truly in my heart. You alone know my struggles and pain, Al-Wadud. I feel unbearably lonely and do not wish to incur Your displeasure by remaining unmarried, Al-'Aziz!

At the very height of the endeavor (June, 1944) the Manhattan Project employed approximately 127,000 people...84,500 construction workers, 40,500 plant operators and 1,800 military personnel....when construction activity declined one year later, the workforce fell to 100,000...the number of military personnel (however) increased to 5,600...with regard to government secrecy...professor of Science and Technology Studies at Stevens Institute of Technology and author of The History of Nuclear Secrecy in the United States (2021), Alex Wellerstein...according to Wellerstein, the Roosevelt administration acted and operated under a mandate of "absolute secrecy" (meaning that the very existence of the project itself was to be kept top secret)…this proved to be a challenging task when considering the amount of information and speculation that existed on the subject of nuclear fission prior to the start of the program...Leslie Richard Groves Jr. was a United States Army Corps of Engineers officer who oversaw the construction of the Pentagon and directed the Manhattan Project...Groves endorsed a hypervigilant model of compartmentalization and an extreme version of "need-to-know-basis" policy...he writes in his 1962 book Now it Can be Told: The Story of the Manhattan Project: "Compartmentalization of knowledge, to me, was the very heart of security. My rule was simple and not capable of misinterpretation—each man should know everything he needed to know to do his job and nothing else. Adherence to this rule not only provided an adequate measure of security, but it greatly improved over-all efficiency by making our people stick to their knitting. And it made quite clear to all concerned that the project existed to produce a specific end product—not to enable individuals to satisfy their curiosity and to increase their scientific knowledge."

Nowadays 10% of Americans believe the 1969 moon landing was faked...but during the 70's the number of Americans disbelieving in the moon landings was a lot higher at 30%...this shows the power of conformity and indoctrination via the public schooling system...and the power of state propaganda via the nightly repetitive mantras of legacy news media...60% of Russians disbelieve in the moon landings... 52% of Brits believed the moon landings were a conspiracy...too much internet I guess...c'mon people, Walter Cronkite doesn't lie

https://www.newsweek.com/moon-landing-hoax-russia-poll-1521595 U.S. Moon Landing Was a Hoax, Half of Russians Believe Published Jul 30, 2020 at 6:17 AM EDT Just under half of Russians think the U.S. moon landing in 1969 was a government hoax, a poll has found. In a survey of 1,600 adults in Russia, researchers also found only 31 percent believe American astronauts landed on the moon in the last century. The moon landing, where Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin became the first people to set foot on the lunar surface, took place during the space race between the U.S. and Russia. Both nations were vastly expanding their space programs, with Russia having become the first country to send a person—cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin—into space eight years earlier. Soon after the moon landing, the Soviet Union denied it had been in a space race with the U.S., either claiming they had no lunar program or criticizing NASA's efforts. Some politicians in America use the denials from Russia to claim U.S. officials had invented the race to justify the millions invested in advancing the lunar program. It would be decades before the Soviets confirmed they had been attempting a moon landing. In 1989, the New York Times published an article titled "Russians Finally Admit They Lost Race to Moon." Conspiracies about whether the moon landing was faked emerged in the years that followed the Apollo 11 mission. In 1976, Bill Kaysing self-published a pamphlet called "We Never Went to the Moon: America's Thirty Billion Dollar Swindle" in which he set out claims against the authenticity of the evidence presented. All his points, such as the flag appearing to wave despite the absence of a breeze, have been debunked by scientists. But the conspiracy stuck. In 1999 a Gallup poll showed that around five percent of Americans believed the moon landing was a hoax. Twenty years later, a survey by C-SPAN and Ipsos showed this figure had remained stable, with 6 percent of people saying they believe the event was staged. The poll showed belief was higher among younger people, compared with over 50s. In Russia, support for the conspiracy was far higher. In 2018, Dmitry Rogozin, head of Russia's space agency Roscosmos, was asked whether there are plans to go to the moon. In response, he joked they would go to check if the moon landings were real: "We have set this objective to fly and verify whether they've been there or not." The latest poll, by the Russia Public Opinion Research Center (VCIOM), shows belief in the moon landing hoax theory is now falling. In 2018, 57 percent believed the Apollo 11 landing was faked. People aged 45 and over were most likely to believe it was a hoax. The VCIOM poll, which looked at belief in conspiracy theories, covered topics including the safety of vaccines, whether the Earth was flat and whether aliens have visited Earth. On the latter subject, 13 percent said representatives of extraterrestrial civilizations visit our planet but that this is hidden from the public by authorities. Twenty three percent say aliens visit Earth but hide from us. Forty eight percent said aliens either do not exist or do not visit Earth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_and_missing_Moon_rocks Stolen and missing Moon rocks Of the 270 Apollo 11 Moon rocks and the Apollo 17 Goodwill Moon Rocks that were given to the nations of the world by the Nixon Administration, approximately 180 are unaccounted for. Many of these rocks that are accounted for have been locked away in storage for decades. The location of the rocks has been tracked by researchers and hobbyists because of their rarity and the difficulty of obtaining more. Moon rocks have been subjects of theft and forgery as well. Investigations[edit] In 1998, a unique federal law enforcement undercover operation was created to identify and arrest individuals selling bogus Moon rocks. This sting operation was known as Operation Lunar Eclipse. Originally two undercover agents were involved in this sting, Senior Special Agent Joseph Gutheinz of NASA's Office of Inspector General (NASA OIG), posing as Tony Coriasso, and Inspector Bob Cregger of the United States Postal Inspection Service, posing as John Marta. This sting operation was later expanded to include Agents from the United States Customs Service, namely, Special Agent Dwight Weikel and Special Agent Dave Atwood. Agents posted a quarter page advertisement in USA Today asking for Moon rocks. The Agents were targeting individuals selling bogus Moon rocks, which con artists sell to the elderly and to space enthusiasts. The sting operation was led by NASA OIG Senior Special Agent Joseph Gutheinz.[1] For the first time in history the sting operation recovered an Apollo era Moon rock, the Honduras Goodwill Moon Rock. This Moon rock had been given to Honduras by President Nixon, fallen into private hands, and then offered to the Agents for $5 million. In order to recover this Moon rock, the agents had to come up with the $5 million requested by the seller. Billionaire and one-time Presidential Candidate H. Ross Perot was asked by one of the agents to put up the money, and did so.[2] After leaving NASA for a teaching position at the University of Phoenix, in Arizona, Gutheinz challenged his criminal justice graduate students to locate the goodwill Moon rocks.[3][4][5] He subsequently extended this project to also cover the missing Apollo 11 Moon rocks President Nixon gave to the states and nations of the world in 1969. Hundreds of graduate students have participated in this project from 2002 to the present and while many Moon rocks have been found, others are now known to be missing, stolen, or destroyed. Gutheinz patterned this college project after NASA's earlier Operation Lunar Eclipse, which he had participated in. Beginning in 2002, his graduate students began reporting to him that both the Cyprus Apollo 11 Moon rock (which is actually a collection of lunar dust in a Lucite ball) and Cyprus Apollo 17 Goodwill Moon Rock (a pebble-size Moon rock) were missing. Operation Lunar Eclipse and the Moon Rock Project were the subject of the 2012 book The Case of the Missing Moon Rocks by Joe Kloc. Missing gifted rocks[edit] United States[edit] Delaware[edit] Main article: Delaware lunar sample displays The Apollo 11 display was stolen in 1976.[6] New Jersey[edit] Main article: New Jersey lunar sample displays The Apollo 11 sample is on display in the New Jersey State Museum. The experts and politicians in New Jersey, including former Governor Brendan Byrne, had no idea of where the Apollo 17 sample was, or of the state even receiving it.[7] International[edit] Brazil[edit] Main article: Brazil lunar sample displays The Apollo 11 display is missing.[citation needed] Canada[edit] Main article: Canada lunar sample displays The Apollo 11 display is missing.[citation needed] Cyprus[edit] Main article: Cyprus lunar sample displays While the Apollo 17 Goodwill Moon rock presented to Cyprus was recovered, the Apollo 11 rock given to the country remains missing.[8] In his June 26, 2011 Op/Ed appearing in the Cyprus Mail entitled "Houston we have a problem: we didn't give Cyprus its moon rock", Joseph Gutheinz revealed that after NASA recovered the Cyprus Apollo 17 Goodwill Moon Rock over a year ago they failed to give the Moon rock to its legal owner, the nation of Cyprus.[9] Honduras[edit] Main article: Honduras lunar sample displays The Apollo 11 display is missing. The Apollo 17 display was stolen and later recovered. Ireland[edit] Main article: Ireland lunar sample displays The Apollo 11 rock presented to Ireland was accidentally discarded in a landfill known as the Dunsink Landfill in October 1977 following a fire that consumed the Meridian room library at the Dublin Dunsink Observatory where the rock was displayed. Cleo Luff, a student from the University of Phoenix, obtained this information after her investigation into the Moon rock's location for a class she had with Professor Joseph Gutheinz.[10][11] The Apollo 17 Goodwill Rock remains with the National Museum of Ireland. Malta[edit] Main article: Malta lunar sample displays On May 18, 2004, Malta's Goodwill Moon Rock was stolen from Malta's Museum of Natural History in Mdina. According to an Associated Press story appearing in USA Today, "there are no surveillance cameras and no custodians at the Museum of Natural History because of insufficient funding. The only attendant is the ticket-seller"... "A Maltese flag displayed next to the rock — which the U.S. astronauts had taken up with them — was not taken".[12] Joseph Gutheinz, a retired NASA Office of Inspector General Special Agent who heads up a "Moon Rock Project" at the University of Phoenix (where he assigns his students the task of hunting down missing Moon rocks), urged the Maltese authorities to grant an amnesty period to the thieves. He advised that only an amateur thief would have taken the Maltese Goodwill Moon Rock and left the plaque and flag behind, as all three together would have been self-authenticating and eliminated the risk of a geologist needing to authenticate the Moon rock.[13][14] Malta's Goodwill Moon Rock has not been recovered and continues to be actively pursued.[as of?] Nicaragua[edit] Main article: Nicaragua lunar sample displays The Apollo 11 display was stolen and later recovered. The Apollo 17 display is missing.[citation needed] Romania[edit] Main article: Romania lunar sample displays University of Phoenix graduate students uncovered evidence that the Romania Goodwill Moon Rock may have been auctioned off by the estate of its executed former leader Nicolae Ceaușescu.[15] Both Nicolae Ceaușescu and his wife, Elena Ceaușescu, were executed by firing squad on December 25, 1989, for the crime of genocide.[16][17] As late as 2009, Romania believed it only received one Moon rock from the Nixon Administration, the Apollo 11 Moon rock, and took issue with those who argued otherwise.[18] Joseph Gutheinz provided Daniel Ionascu of the Jurnalul information from the U.S. National Archives which showed that the Romanian Goodwill Moon Rock was presented to Romania.[19] Romania's Apollo 11 Moon Rock is at the National History Museum in Bucharest. Spain[edit] Main article: Spain lunar sample displays Evidence surfaced that both Spain's Apollo 11 Moon Rock and Apollo 17 Goodwill Moon Rock which were given to General Francisco Franco's Administration by the Nixon Administration were missing. Pablo Jáuregui, the Science Editor of El Mundo, a Spanish newspaper, disclosed in a July 20, 2009 story entitled: "Franco's grandson: My mother lost the lunar rock that was given to my grandfather." that the Spanish Apollo 17 Goodwill Moon Rock had finally been given back to the people of Spain in 2007 by the family of Admiral Luis Carrero; and Jáuregui suggested that Spain's Apollo 11 Moon Rock, as referenced in the title of the story, was last known to be in Franco's family's hands, and is now unaccounted for. Jáuregui wrote that Luis Carrero Blanco the son of Admiral Carrero Blanco stated "As for the stone that Kissinger gave Carrero Blanco, the stone was in possession of the family (first in the home of his widow, and after that of his eldest son ), until in 2007 they decided to donate it to the Naval Museum, where it is on display today, along with a Spanish flag which traveled aboard the 1972 Apollo 17 mission to the Moon. "My son told me that the gift was dedicated to 'The Spanish people', so it seemed right to donate it," recalls Luis Carrero Blanco. Admiral Carrero Blanco was assassinated while in Office by ETA, a Basque separatist organization recognized as terrorist by Spain, France,[20] the UK[21] and the US,[22] but not (anymore) by the European Union.[23] As for Spain's Apollo 11 Moon Rock the trail is more confused. Jáuregui relates the following from Franco's grandson: "The grandson of Franco stressed that neither he nor any other member of his family" had been told "that there might be some legal or ethical problem" regarding the Moon rock. "If you are given something and it's yours, why shouldn't you sell it?" He said. "In any case the rock was never sold", but according to Franco, at the moment it is not known where it is. "As my mother is a woman with many things in many houses, in a move or redecorating a room, in the end it must have got lost," he explains.[24][25][26] Students assigned to the Moon Rock Project are currently[when?] looking for leads to Spain's Apollo 11 Moon Rock in Switzerland.[27] Sweden[edit] Main article: Sweden lunar sample displays The Apollo 11 plaque display was stolen from the Swedish Museum of Natural History in Stockholm on September 7, 2002.[28][29][30][31][32] Recovered gifted rocks United States[edit] Alaska[edit] Elizabeth Riker Main article: Alaska lunar sample displays Elizabeth Riker[33] was assigned the task of locating the Alaska Apollo 11 Moon Rock by her professor. On August 18, 2010, in a story she wrote about her investigation in the Capital City Weekly newspaper, of Juneau, Alaska, she stated that after conducting a thorough investigation for Alaska's Apollo 11 Moon Rock she has concluded that it is missing. She advised that she planned to continue to look for the Moon rock and asked for the help of the citizens of Alaska to accomplish her goal of finding it.[34][35] In 1973, there was a massive fire at the Alaska Transportation Museum where the Moon rocks were being housed. Coleman Anderson (a crab-fishing captain who was on the TV show Deadliest Catch) claimed to have gone to the museum to scrounge through the garbage from the fire to see if there would be anything worth saving. Anderson, who was a child at the time, claimed to have found the Moon rocks and cleaned them up over the next few years. To clear title to the rocks he filed a lawsuit against the State of Alaska, asking the Court to deem the rocks his sole property.[36] The missing Moon rocks were returned by Anderson as of December 7, 2012.[37] Arkansas[edit] Main article: Arkansas lunar sample displays In a front-page story, the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette listed numerous sources suggesting the Arkansas Goodwill Moon Rock had gone missing noting that the rock was potentially worth five million dollars. The rock was presented to the state by astronaut Richard H. Truly in 1976 at a Boy Scout event in Little Rock. Its whereabouts remained unknown until September 21, 2011, when it was discovered by Michael Hodge, an archivist with the Butler Center for Arkansas Studies, while processing the gubernatorial papers of Bill Clinton.[38][39] Colorado[edit] Main article: Colorado lunar sample displays Based on the investigation of a graduate student, former governor John Vanderhoof, then age 88, acknowledged he had the Goodwill Moon Rock presented to the people of Colorado in his personal possession and agreed to give it back to the state.[40] On August 25, 2010, the Colorado Goodwill Moon Rock was unveiled at the Colorado School of Mines Geology Museum by Dr. Bruce Geller, the museum curator.[41][42] Hawaii[edit] Main article: Hawaii lunar sample displays Flaws in the State of Hawaii inventory control system were highlighted in 2009 when an estimated $10 million in Moon rocks from Apollo 11 and the Apollo 17 Goodwill Rock could not be located. Curators and officials at every museum and university in the state, along with then Governor Linda Lingle's office, capitol, and state archives, were contacted but none knew of the whereabouts of the items.[43] Both Moon rocks were later found in a "routine inventory of gifts given to the governor's office over the years," in a locked cabinet in the Governor's Office. A senior advisor to the governor vowed to increase security and register the items with the state's Foundation of Cultural Arts.[44] Louisiana[edit] Louisiana's Apollo 17 Moon rock was returned to the state in late 2020, hand delivered to the Louisiana State Museum by an anonymous Florida man.[45] The state's Apollo 11 Moon rock is in the collection of the Louisiana Art and Science Museum.[45] Missouri[edit] Main article: Missouri lunar sample displays Confusion erupted in 2010 when employees with the Missouri State Museum and the Missouri State Department of Natural Resources claimed that Missouri's Apollo 17 Goodwill Moon Rock was in storage.[46] Photos in news stories about the location of the rock were later identified as coming from Apollo 11. Then Senator Kit Bond, who was the governor of Missouri when the Apollo 17 Goodwill Moon Rock was gifted to the state, stated that he has no recollection of receiving a Moon rock and the Missouri State Archives, and the State Museum, reversing what they had previously stated, had no information on Missouri having the Apollo 17 Goodwill Moon Rock concluding that it was presumed missing.[47][48] The rock was later found among Bond's possessions by his staff and it was returned to the state.[49][50] North Carolina[edit] North Carolina's Goodwill Moon Rock along with other Apollo 17 flown items on temporary display at the NC Museum of Natural Sciences during a special event on the launch of STS-133 Main article: North Carolina lunar sample displays Professor Christopher Brown, Director of the N.C. Space Grant and professor at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill turned the Moon rock over, along with related items, to the North Carolina Museum of Natural Sciences where it was planned for permanent display in the Fall of 2011 when the museum expansion was completed.[51] Brown obtained the rock from a colleague in 2003 who found it in a desk drawer at the state Commerce Department. Brown's colleague received permission to lend the artifact to Brown who used it in presentations on space and space-related science to students over the next several years.[52] Oregon[edit] Main article: Oregon lunar sample displays Toni Dowdell, a graduate student at the University of Phoenix, was assigned the task of hunting down the Oregon Apollo 11 Moon Rock while two of her teammates were charged with hunting down the Apollo 17 Goodwill Moon Rocks of Oregon and Louisiana. Toni Dowdell and her two teammates received this assignment from her professor, a retired senior special agent with NASA's Office of Inspector General. This assignment was part of an ongoing assignment known as the Moon Rock Project, where students are assigned the task of hunting down Moon rocks all over America and the world. In a February 19, 2010 article Toni Dowdell wrote for the Daily News of Greenville, Michigan, Dowdell described how her teammates in this investigation discerned that both the Apollo 17 Goodwill Moon Rocks of Oregon and of Louisiana remain unaccounted for, but how she successfully tracked down her assigned Moon rock, the Oregon Apollo 11 Moon Rock. As with many Moon rock gifts the Nixon Administration gave to the states and the nations of the world, the first problem she encountered was a lack of a document trail. However, by reaching out to people, to include an operator in the state Capitol, she found the Moon rock hidden in the ceremonial Governor's Office of Oregon.[53] According to Moon rocks researcher Robert Pearlman, the Oregon Apollo 17 rock display is on permanent exhibit in the Earth Science Hall of the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry in Portland.[54] West Virginia[edit] Main article: West Virginia lunar sample displays Sandra Shelton, a graduate student at the University of Phoenix, was assigned the task of hunting down the West Virginia Apollo 17 Goodwill Moon Rock by her professor, a retired senior special agent with NASA's Office of Inspector General. This Moon rock was presented to West Virginia in 1974 and is valued at $5 million. On May 16, 2010, Rick Steelhammer of the Gazette-Mail of Charleston, West Virginia, wrote a front-page story documenting Sandra Shelton's investigative findings which revealed that the West Virginia Goodwill Moon Rock was missing.[55] Following that story, retired dentist Robert Conner called Shelton and told her that he had the West Virginia Goodwill Moon Rock. Shelton informed her professor, who advised the Governor's Office. Dr. Conner said that his deceased brother was the former business partner of former West Virginia governor Arch A. Moore, Jr., and that Conner acquired the Moon rock upon the death of his brother from his brother's belongings.[56][57] In her June 29 story appearing in the Denver Post, reporter Sarah Horn wrote that Shelton was awarded a certificate by the governor of West Virginia, Joe Manchin, for her role in recovering the West Virginia Goodwill Moon Rock.[58] International[edit] Canada[edit] Main article: Canada lunar sample displays In 1972, then 13-year-old Jaymie Matthews, now Astronomy Professor at the University of British Columbia, lied about his age in order to compete in an essay contest, the winner of which would serve as a participant in a "10-day International Youth Science Tour, in which all the countries in the United Nations were invited to offer up "youth ambassadors" aged 17 to 21. These youth ambassadors were to witness first-hand the launch in Florida..." of Apollo 17…" Eighty countries accepted the invitation, including Canada. Matthews won the contest, and when his true age came out, Canadian officials decided to let him go anyway. As the student ambassador, it was decided that Canada's Goodwill Moon Rock was mailed to him where he kept it at his home. Eventually he was asked to turn the Moon rock over to Canada, which he did. The rock was reportedly stolen in 1978, while on tour.[59] In 2003, University of Phoenix graduate students tracked down the rock to a storage facility at the Canadian Museum of Nature. After 30 years of sitting in storage, the Canadian Goodwill Moon Rock finally went on display at the Canada Science and Technology Museum in Ottawa, on July 23, 2009.[60] Colombia[edit] Main article: Colombia lunar sample displays Misael Pastrana Borrero, as President of Colombia between 1970 and 1974, received from United States President Richard Nixon both lunar sample displays that he kept on his desk at the Casa de Nariño. Allegedly believing that the displays were a personal gift, Pastrana kept the Moon rocks after the end of his presidential term as interior decoration in the living room of his private house in Bogotá, Colombia.[61] It was not until 1985 when journalist Daniel Samper Pizano, in search of the thought to be missing lunar displays, embarked on a mission that included contacting the Embassy of the United States in Bogotá that confirmed that the displays were in fact not a personal gift to then President Pastrana but rather to all people of Colombia.[62] Having received this information, Samper published an article with the allegation that Pastrana had stolen the lunar displays prompting Juan Carlos Pastrana, son of Misael Pastrana Borrero, to pass the displays to the Bogotá Planetarium.[63] Since their return to public hands, the lunar sample displays remained in secured storage within the Bogotá Planetarium until 2003 when they were displayed for the first time to the public as part of the planetarium's permanent collection.[64] Cyprus[edit] Main article: Cyprus lunar sample displays Moon rocks from Apollo 11 and Apollo 17 presented to the island nation of Cyprus were believed to have been destroyed or stolen in 1974 during the Turkish invasion. In September 2009, while cooperating with a worldwide hunt for Moon rocks with Associated Press reporter Toby Sterling (Netherlands Bureau) and Cyprus Mail reporter Lucy Millett, the daughter of the British Ambassador to Cyprus, Gutheinz was advised by his friend and space memorabilia expert Robert Pearlman who had learned in 2003 that the Cyprus Goodwill Moon Rock was never presented to Cyprus, but retained by the son of an American diplomat. The American government was advised about this situation in 2003 and did nothing. Upon learning the truth Gutheinz reached out to both the American Embassy in Cyprus and the Cyprus Government to convey the facts; he then filed a request for a Congressional Inquiry into the case of the missing Cyprus Goodwill Moon Rock. Subsequently, he caused the facts about the Moon rock to be published in the press in order to motivate the person who had the Moon rock to do the right thing, and return it.[65][66][67] The diplomat's son thereafter began negotiating with NASA's Office of Inspector General, and did so for 5 months until the Cyprus Goodwill Moon Rock was recovered. The diplomat's son's name has never been disclosed.[8] Honduras[edit] Main article: Honduras lunar sample displays During "Lunar Eclipse", Florida businessman Alan H. Rosen, attempted to sell agents the 1.142 gram Goodwill Moon rock presented to Honduras for 5 million dollars. After two months of negotiations with Rosen, the Moon rock was seized from a Bank of America vault. The rock immediately became the subject of a 5-year civil suit, United States of America v. One Lucite Ball containing Lunar Material (one Moon Rock) and One Ten Inch by Fourteen Inch Wooden Plaque, which resulted in the forfeiture of the rock to the Federal Government on March 24, 2003.[68] The rock was refurbished at Johnson Space Center, to be once again presented to the people of Honduras. In a September 22, 2003 ceremony at NASA's Headquarters in Washington, D.C., NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe presented the Moon rock to Honduran Ambassador Mario M. Canahuati. Also in attendance at this ceremony was Joseph Gutheinz, the leader of the sting operation, who gave a first hand account of the rock's recovery to Ambassador Canahuati. On February 28, 2004, O'Keefe flew to Honduras to formally present the Moon rock to Honduran president Ricardo Maduro. In 2007, Gutheinz, a past recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Medal, was featured in the BBC Two documentary Moon for Sale talking about the Honduras Goodwill Moon Rock and this unique case.[69][70][71][72][73][74] Today the Honduras Goodwill Moon Rock is on display at the Centro Interactivo Chiminike, an education center in Tegucigalpa that receives hundreds of young student visitors per day."[75] Ireland[edit] Main article: Ireland lunar sample displays The Irish Apollo 17 Goodwill Moon Rock is located at the National Museum of Ireland. The Apollo 17 Goodwill Moon Rock was given to Irish President Erskine Childers who later died in office. When the widow of President Childers, Rita Dudley Childers, requested the rock as a keepsake of her late husband, the request was denied, as the Irish Government reasoned the Irish Goodwill Moon Rock belonged to the people of Ireland and not just to one individual.[citation needed] Nicaragua[edit] Main article: Nicaraguan lunar sample displays AP reporter Ken Ritter wrote that the Nicaragua Apollo 11 Moon Rock "given by then-President Richard Nixon to former Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somoza Garcia [had] been pilfered by a Costa Rican mercenary soldier-turned Contra rebel, traded to a Baptist missionary for unknown items, then sold to a Las Vegas casino mogul who displayed them at his Moon Rock Cafe before squirreling them away in a safety deposit box."[76][77] The Apollo 11 Moon Rock was returned to the people of Nicaragua in November 2012.[78] Recovered Moon dust[edit] In April 2013, Karen Nelson, an archivist at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, found 20 vials of Moon dust from the Apollo 11 mission with handwritten labels dated "24 July 1970" in a warehouse at the Berkeley lab. They had been there for around 40 years and were forgotten about. NASA requested it be returned to the agency.[79][80] Counterfeit rocks[edit] Texas[edit] On April 23, 2012, at a restaurant in Buffalo, Texas, "Moon Rock Hunter" Joe Gutheinz met with a 67-year-old former toy manufacturer named Rafael Navarro, who claimed to have an Apollo 11 Moon rock given to him by "a maid, now elderly and in failing health, who worked for a Venezuelan diplomat who told people it was a Moon rock". Navarro was offering shavings from the rock for $300,000 on eBay. After looking at the sample through a microscope and later examining documents given him by Navarro, Gutheinz is skeptical of Navarro's claim, stating "...this is a train wreck waiting to happen for him, and he's inviting it. He's opening the jail cell door and walking through it."[81] New York[edit] In an October 23, 1999 story entitled "Atlanta Man Admits Trying to Sell Bogus Moon Rock", Reuters reported two brothers, Ronald and Brian Trochelmann, who were previously charged in 1998 in "U.S. District Court in Manhattan…"for…"a scheme to sell a phony moon rock for millions of dollars," both pled guilty to wire fraud, a felony, for perpetrating that scheme. "The brothers claimed that their father had invented a space-food packaging process that was used by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration during the Apollo moon missions of the 1960s. The Trochelmann's alleged that the rock had been brought from the moon by Apollo 12 astronaut Alan Bean and given to John Glenn. They claimed Glenn, the first American to orbit Earth and later a U.S. senator, had given the rock to their father in recognition of his supposed invention." ..." The brothers had negotiated a consignment agreement with Phillips Son & Neale, a Manhattan auction house, to sell the rock in December 1995. However, before the auction took place, the rock was confiscated by FBI agents in December 1995 prior to the scheduled auction."[82] This story first broke in a New York Times Article written by Lawrence Van Gelder on December 2, 1995. At that time NASA expressed the belief that the Moon rock might have been real as it matched the general description of a Moon rock that was stolen in 1970. "Eileen Hawley, a spokeswoman for NASA, said of the sample offered through Phillips & Neale: We have a rock that is classified as lost, an Apollo 12 lunar sample of approximately the same weight. With that information, we need to look at this—that this might be a true lunar sample. Ms. Hawley said a rock sample collected during the Apollo 12 mission had been part of a shipment of registered and certified mail that was stolen while en route to a researcher at the University of California in Los Angeles in 1970. The space agency received a call on Thursday from the Postal Investigative Service in New York, she said, after articles about the impending auction had been published. The service passed along a tip from the retired inspector, who was not identified, about a possible connection between the theft and the rock to be auctioned."[83] This scheme and schemes like it were the inspiration for the undercover sting operation known as Operation Lunar Eclipse, which resulted in the acquisition of the Honduras Goodwill Moon Rock in December 1998.[84][85] Door-to-door salesman[edit] In his November 4, 1969 article appearing in the Fort Scott Tribune entitled "Fake Lunar Rock Racket Feared" NEA Staff correspondent Tom Tiede first predicted a market for fake Moon rocks, a market subsequently given extra momentum as Moon rocks began to be reported lost and stolen. Tiede gave a few examples to support his prediction: "In Miami Florida a housewife had been approached by a door to door salesman dealing in lunar rocks. She bought five dollars worth;" "In Redwood City, Calif., a woman [published an advertisement] announcing Moon dust for sale. At $1.98 an ounce;" "In New York, the Harlem Better Business Bureau [was] cautioning consumers against purchasing any kind of obviously fake moon substances."[86] Dutch Moon rock proven fake[edit] Main article: Netherlands lunar sample displays In his August 28, 2009 Associated Press story appearing in the Brisbane Times, Toby Sterling recounted how a spokesman for the Dutch National Museum, Amsterdam's Rijksmuseum, acknowledged on August 26, 2009, "that one of its prized possessions, a rock supposedly brought back from the moon by"...Apollo 11... "US astronauts, is just a piece of petrified wood.."... "The museum acquired the rock after the death of former prime minister Willem Drees in 1988. Drees received it as a private gift on October 9, 1969 from then-US ambassador J. William Middendorf during a visit by the three Apollo 11 astronauts, part of their 'Giant Leap' goodwill tour after the first moon landing." The museum acknowledged that though they did vet the Moon rock they failed to double check it.[87] The museum was under the incorrect belief that this Moon rock was one of the 135 Apollo 11 Moon rocks that were presented to the nations of the world by the Nixon Administration.[88] "It's a nondescript, pretty-much-worthless stone," said Frank Beunk, a geologist involved in the investigation.[89] The genuine Apollo 11 Moon rock given to the Dutch is in the inventory of a different museum in the Netherlands, which is, in fact, one of the countries where the location of both the Apollo 11 and Apollo 17 gift rocks is known.[90] NASA-controlled rocks[edit] Theft of NASA rocks[edit] In June 2002, 101 grams of Moon rocks were stolen from the Johnson Space Center by interns Thad Roberts and Tiffany Fowler. The pair used knowledge of the security around the rocks gained during their internship to remove a 272 kg (600 lb) safe in building 31 North containing the samples.[91] Roberts is a certified pilot and scuba diver who was an ambitious student pursuing degrees in physics, geology, and anthropology who aspired to be an astronaut.[92] Fellow interns Shae Saur and Tiffany Fowler, as well as accomplice Gordon McWhorter were also arrested for their roles in the theft and attempted sale of the rocks.[93] The theft also included a meteorite that may have revealed information about life on Mars.[94] Roberts advertised the rocks on a Belgian mineralogy club website which was forwarded to the FBI who, with the help of Belgian amateur rock collector Axel Emmermann, set up a sting. On July 20, 2002, a number of FBI agents met with Roberts, McWhorter, and Fowler, posing as potential buyers.[95] All three were arrested, and the samples were recovered.[93] Roberts was also charged with stealing dinosaur bones and other fossils from the University of Utah, which he attended.[96][97][98] The theft was the subject of Ben Mezrich's 2011 book Sex on the Moon: The Amazing Story Behind the Most Audacious Heist in History. Axel Emmermann, Gordon McWhorter, NASA Principal Investigator Dr. Everett Gibson and investigating officers of the FBI and NASA Office of the Inspector General were interviewed on camera for a National Geographic Channels Explorer special called "Million Dollar Moon Rock Heist", first broadcast in the US on March 4, 2012. Testimony given therein is at odds with some of the key claims made in Mezrich's account. National Air and Space Museum[edit] In an Aviation Week & Space Technology article published on September 27, 1976, entitled "Lunar Sample Damaged by Vandals" the author addresses a vandalism and possible theft attempt against a 40 gram Apollo 17 Moon rock. The author states that the "Apollo 17 lunar sample on open display at the Smithsonian Institution's National Air and Space Museum was slightly damaged…during an apparent vandalism attempt. It is possible that theft was the object of the attack on the sample, but both museum and National Aeronautics and Space Administration officials believe vandalism was the primary objective. About two cubic millimeters of the triangular fine-grained basalt were chipped away during the incident that involved a hard blow to the sample with a sharp object. NASA believes no part of the sample was obtained by the vandal. The area around the sample's display case was swept immediately after the incident, and the sweeper bag is now at the Johnson Space Center, where it is being sifted in an attempt to obtain the missing material." The author stated that "The 40-gram sample on display is the first touchable moon rock. Museum visitors are able to feel directly the texture of the lunar material, a departure from strict NASA policy that dictates that no individual ever handle lunar samples directly as a guard against contamination. "[99] Memphis, Tennessee[edit] In an August 8, 1986 article written by United Press International entitled "Police Look for Stolen Moon Rocks" the author wrote: "Memphis police are looking for some moon rocks taken from a NASA van that was stolen." The van was assigned to Louis Marshall of Memphis, who conducts education programs for the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. The van was stolen from outside his home Tuesday night, driven to a field and set afire, police said Friday. A space suit in the van was left to burn. But thieves took some lunar rock and soil specimens, police said. Marshall said it was hard to put a value on them. It's stuff that belongs to all of us,' he said.' I'm out of business right now,' said Marshall. It will take a while to replace the items, he said. NASA officials said that out of 384 kilograms (847 lb) of Moon rock retrieved through the years, the sample was not a big loss. I don't know what value it would be except just to gloat over it personally,' said NASA spokesman Terry White about the theft. White said theft is not a common problem with the NASA exhibits, which are shown to schools around the country.' I'd always thought, Who's going to mess with a big red van with NASA on it?' Marshall said."[100] There is no indication that this theft was related to a Moon rock theft that followed just a few days later in Louisiana. Louisiana Science and Nature Center[edit] A set of six fragments of Moon rocks used in educational programs were stolen from the Louisiana Science and Nature Center by ripping a small safe out of a wall.[101] The case remains unsolved. Virginia Beach[edit] On January 10, 2006, Rudo Kashiri, an education specialist employed by NASA, reported that someone broke into a van that was parked in the driveway of her home in Virginia Beach, Virginia, and made off with a collection of NASA Moon rocks. The rocks were in a safe that was bolted to the van. The safe may or may not have been properly locked. As an Education Specialist for NASA, Kashiri's job involved bringing the Moon rocks to schools and showing them to students.[102][103] These Moon rocks have not been recovered. Wikimedia Commons has media related to Lunar sample displays.

https://phys.org/news/2009-09-moon-fake.html Moon Rock Turns Out to be Fake (PhysOrg.com) -- The Dutch national Rijksmuseum made an embarrassing announcement last week that one of its most loved possessions, a moon rock, is a fake -- just an old piece of petrified wood that's never been anywhere near the moon. The Rijksmuseum is famous for its fine art collections, especially paintings by Rembrandt and other masters. One of its lesser known objects, the "moon rock", was first unveiled in October 2006 as the centerpiece of a "Fly me to the moon" exhibition. At that time, the museum said the rock symbolized the "exploration of the unknown, colonization of far-away places and bringing back of treasures..." A reading about the "moon rock" was even held on October 7 because it was a full moon! The rock was given as a private gift to former prime minister Willem Drees Jr in 1969 by the U.S. ambassador to The Netherlands, J. William Middendorf II, during a visit by the Apollo 11 astronauts, Armstrong, Collins and Aldrin, soon after the first moon landing. Drees had been out of office for 11 years, but was considered an elder statesman. When Drees died in 1988, the rock was donated to the Rijksmuseum, where it has remained ever since. According to a museum spokeswoman, Ms Van Gelder, no one doubted the authenticity of the rock because it was in the prime minister's own collection, and they had vetted the acquisition by a phone call to NASA. According to an article published by the Rijksmuseum, at one time the rock was insured for approximately half a million dollars, but its actual value is probably no more than around $70. Former U.S. ambassador, Mr Middendorf was unable to recall the exact details of how the rock came to be in the U.S. State Department's possession. It is known that NASA gave lunar rocks to over 100 countries in the 1970s, but when the rock was displayed in 2006 a space expert told the museum he doubted any material would have been given away so soon after the manned lunar landing. Researchers from the Free University of Amsterdam immediately doubted the rock was from the moon, and began extensive testing. The tests concluded the rock was petrified wood. U.S. embassy officials were unable to explain the findings, but are investigating. Even though the tests found the piece is not of lunar origin, the Rijksmuseum curators say they will keep it anyway as a curiosity. © 2009 PhysOrg.com

^^^With regard to the argument that it would be impossible to silence all 400,000 men that worked on the Apollo space program in 1969...it's worth noting that at the height of the Manhattan Project (1944) it had 129,000 people working on it...they would blindly compartmentalize the teams and very few of them had any idea what they were working on (other than it being some sort of top secret assignment)...If there was deception at NASA, only a few at the very top would know the full details

Pretty objective compared to most documentaries on the subject...at least they gave pretty fair representation to the opposing side...however, the end-summarization was predictable simply by the number of times they tossed around the term "Conspiracy theorist/theory"...The Moon Landing - World's Greatest Hoax? | Free Documentary History - 52 minutes

From a halal and haram point of view, which should be the first way to look at things if you are a Muslim, a segregated classroom and school will always be purer for the heart and soul. At the very least, ikhtilaat (mixed gender settings) is makruh, and can easily lead to haram. Some jurists may rule it haram altogether in school settings. I also agree with the other brothers who mentioned that a male student learning from a male teacher is better for his development, and a female student learning from a female teacher is better for her development. Schools are usually segregated in certain Middle Eastern countries, and so you might see more of a balance in the gender ratio when it comes to pursuing teaching as a profession, as opposed to the West where there is much more females in teaching than males.

Some men will reject a woman who does not wear hijab. Those are not the men you would want to consider for marriage. You want a partner who accepts you as you are and will grow with you.

Marriage can be Wajib for people who would fall into sin if they don't get married. For others, it would not be wajib. However, we can't say that all the people we know who are married were in danger of falling into sin! Marriage is a beautiful tradition of the Prophet SA. I wish all people in the world would be able to marry. For someone who had a bad marriage and got divorced, they should not think marriage is bad and never get married again. Marriage can be the most wonderful thing in your life.

Sorry but like I wrote some times before I see no reason to show you calculations regarding the matter. If you really know calculus and heat transfer as you insist then perhaps you can use it to prove me wrong? ^^ I do not change subjects. These are all evidences for the same, one case that is manned lunar landing being fake.

Here is a ridiculous piece of news published in UK's Telegraph about how the American shills presented a fake moon rock to Holland as a "gift" which was found to be petrified wood. Not surprising right? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/6105902/Moon-rock-given-to-Holland-by-Neil-Armstrong-and-Buzz-Aldrin-is-fake.html LOL But to be honest moon rocks aren't different enough from earth rocks anyway having the same mineral compositions and features.

Anyway I want to share another very interesting piece of evidence for anyone following the apollo hoax discussions. The video shows how low earth orbit (real) EVA affects the space suit of an astronaut by inflating it to the extremes due to the vacuum versus how the suit is shrunk and creased due to deflation during fake events. Its another eye opener. Part 2: Part 3: I encourage any space travel science veterans or the genuine truth seekers to view these. These show an important aspect of real space science and shatter the fictional.

I do not see any baseless claims not backed up. You will have to be specific. You asked about the film specs and I have you links for research. You asked about lunar temperatures and I wrote them. If you wanted me to publish a book on the subject endorsed by neil degrasse tyson and michio kaku of course that is never going to happen for multiple reasons. And there are already plenty of great books on the subject written by American scientists. One of those books inspired someone to make a hollywood film called "Capricorn One" showing how nasa fakes a manned mission to mars and that film has a rating of 6.8/10 on imdb. So unless you research for your own you are stuck with crude information being written by me. But seriously bro, come on. We both know you are not interested in the subject and your own research on those things is zero. So spare my time please? I wrote more than enough there so that even a school kid can pick up the trail if they want to. I link documentaries and you turn them aside labeling them "youtube videos". I can't help you. You kept asking for arbitrary things. It is why I disappeared.

Let me know when you see it. Ahmadinejad doubted the authenticity of the holocaust, did anyone believe him? Countries do not function the way you think they do. How many countries announced that they doubted the 911 WTC reality? And to the propagandists or the patriots it has never mattered what the foreigners say.

A reason for their silence would be because of free trade deals. Since the Kennedy administration, the United States government and its allies had been selling tons of American wheat to the Soviets. It’s no different to modern times: the US cuts multi-billion dollar trade deals with the Chinese and in turn China gets kicked off America’s list of human rights violators, likewise Russia gets tons of wheat in return for silence. Thirdly, nowadays the Russian and American space programs are partners in crime. In the early 70s the US and Soviets agreed to work cooperatively in the exploration of space. This international cooperation became a reality in 1975 with the Apollo Soyuz Test Project, the first joint mission. Many other missions followed and Russia essentially became the United States’ best ally. In the 1990s, with the Buran program cancelled, the Russians had no shuttle to get to their Mir space station, only Soyuz. And the US had no equivalent to Mir. The solution was the Shuttle-Mir program, in which US shuttles carried astronauts and cosmonauts to and from the Russian Mir space station. Now the US and Russia have collaborated towards the construction of the International Space Station, involving not only them but also every other space nation – except for the US’s best trade partner, the Chinese. The Russians were also kind enough to give American astronauts a ride to space aboard the Soyuz during the time the shuttle was grounded. And with the termination of the shuttle program, the US will now be reliant on Russia’s Soyuz to get to the ISS. It’s essentially a one-world space government, one big happy family. No one will blow the whistle on anybody. If you really want to know what Russia thought of manned lunar exploration, just ask Jodrell Bank’s Sir Bernard Lovell. In May of 1963, the President of the Soviet Academy of Sciences Mstislav Keldysh instructed him to inform NASA’s deputy administrator Hugh Dryden that Russian had to postpone manned moon flights indefinitely, because they could see no way to protect their cosmonauts from the insurmountable dangers posed by solar flare radiation. Well into 1966, around the time Russia put Lunik 10 in lunar orbit, Sir Bernard remained in contact with the Soviets asking when they intended to send a human to the moon. In 1999, Sir Bernard was quoted by the BBC along these lines: “I had frequently asked my Soviet contacts when they intended to send a human being to the moon and their response was always ‘when we can be absolutely certain of getting him back alive’. And they did not believe the Americans would do this and in fact it’s pretty clear that the Americans did take considerable risk.” Well into December 1968, Alexei Leonov and his comrades pleaded the politburo to let them pilot Zond 7 around the moon, as the Zonds 5 & 6 had already flown around the moon and returned to earth in September and November of that year – the former of which was successfully recovered. But their pleas were rejected despite having proven their capabilities with Zond 5. It is logical that Russia may likely have planned to fake their manned moon flights too. Aboard Zond 5 was an audio cassette player which played back the voices of cosmonauts Pavel Popevich and Vitali Sevastyanov. At the time many thought Russia had sent the first men around the moon, but upon return of the capsule it was revealed that it was only a tape recording. NASA, who at the time weren’t officially planning a ‘manned’ moon mission until April or May 1969, responded to the tape recorder stunt by changing Apollo 8’s flight plan from a high earth orbit flight to a lunar orbit flight in December 1968. Russia had the opportunity to claim victory over the Americans, but they let it slip through their fingers. But even if they were to cry foul on the Americans, it would only jeopardize their own program. If the USSR was to come out and say that Apollo was faked due to lethal radiation, the Americans would just as easily cry foul if the Soviets proceeded to fake their own for the same reason.

Van Allen radiation belts enveloping the earth. They protect our planet from a lot of harmful space radiation but also the radiation trapped within them is in beyond lethal doses. Because they protect our habitat is also why our satellites and upper atmosphere equipment with delicate electronics on board are able to function in low earth orbit continuously without decaying in a hurry. Once a space shuttle mission was sent closer to the belts in higher orbit to study the effects but the crew reported flashes of light and shooting stars even with their eyes closed to due radiation exposure and turned back. Its interesting to read about. To date I have not read any explanations about the only missions allegedly traveling through those thousands of miles thick volumes of radiation belts. As for the rest there are simple answers to everything. But its like faith or freedom of faith. We always only believe what we want to believe, not necessarily what is. To each their own.

Salam Both contraditing hadiths are correct in its own class and time . When the hadiths says don't ask for hastening the appearance of the Qaim it means don't ask to hasten it without pure acts and intentions other wise you will be in trouble. When it says pray to hasten it means be pure in act and intention , so that you could experience his mercy not wrath. So basically this is warning for those who call themselves Shias, or born Shias, that you are not a shia unless you obey Allah fully, without personal opinions, And a glad tiding to those who are Shias in action, not just by name . And according to hadiths they are only 10,000 true Shias of the Qaim.

As you said, "ajjil farajuhum" means May Allah Hasten His Return. It is a dua and nothing more. The narrations you quoted mention announcing a specific date and/or time but ajjil farajuhum does not do that. While it is true that Allah has a set date+time+place for the zuhoor it does not mean we cannot pray for it to be early. As an example, sadaqa and dua are supposed so to be so powerful that they can delay a person's time of death. Similarly, by saying this phrase we are making dua that should Allah see it fit, He may hasten the zuhoor of the Imam. Hope this helps.

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@Future_Banker_Insha Allah