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Ceasefire passed in UN Security council. Us did not veto this time https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-security-council-demands-immediate-ceasefire-gaza-2024-03-25/

I'm so sorry I missed that part. May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless your father with abundance of blessings, may all the good he did be rewarding him and may all his shortcomings be forgiven. May Allah give you sabr and understanding through the traumatic difficult time and help you grow stronger to support a wonderful wife who gives you a lot of love and compassion. My condolences my brother! much love to you and your family, I wish you a happy, successful, fruitful life inshAllah Al-Fatiha

Trying to prove 12 Imams through Sunni hadith is a futile effort. Why would I want to prove it using Sunni hadith? But kudos to our Shii brothers who put in the effort. The Sunnis don't care about it, and neither do I care about it being in the sunni hadith corpus. But it's nice to know there are hints of it. Which means, the idea IS THERE! And that was my point, which was to prove that the concept of 12 imams/khalifahs/amirs does exist. Also I would like to ask why did Ibn Hajr Al-Asqalani mention what was about to be written on raziyatul yaum al khamis was about khilafah? Because most lay sunni person would absolutely dispute this point. Now we have Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani and maybe even Al-Qastalani mentioning it. This is interesting. I don't have a good pdf copy of Qastalani, maybe some of you have it? So people can't simply dismiss that what was going to be written was unknown or irrelevant. I mean Ibn Hajr Al-Asqalani should have said, "what was going to be written was completely unknown", that would make it more inline with mainstream Sunni opinion. But him having this opinion makes it very interesting.

It is applied for everything. How can anyone really derive any concrete truth when they only stick on their madhab, rejecting all others. I also imply this to myself and I don't hastily reject Sunni narrations, because the companions of the Prophet (saws) are still valid source of knowledge of Prophet narrations.

That's for all other sects. That rule apply to qadaris, jabaris and all others. Go read any book on usool ul hadeeth.

That's the point. The Hadith says that twelve caliphs will govern the people. 10 out of 12 imams didn't.

It is. Your saying 'not really' isn't a refutation. There is an actual example given by me which is jafar bin sulayman. Other examples are ubaydullah bin musa, suddi kabeer, and many others.

Hadith is talking about rulers in political sense.

Plus sunni scholars have made tawtheeq of many imami shia narrators despite their creed such as jafar bin sulayman and many more. So that old " Sunnis always weakened narrators because they were shia and use to narrate virtues of ahlul bayt" Isn't going to work here.

Irrelevant Yes and that's why you have sunni scholars making chapters on virtues of ahlul bayt and scholars who wrote books in merits of ahlul bayt like khasais of imam nasai. Sunni version of hadith has nothing to do with shi'i twelve imams. It is about rulers. That's a weak response. Only bukhari and abu hatim made tawtheeq of him. Majority of scholars consider him dhaeef. And also yahya bin ya'la is not weak due to his tashayyu'. Whenever sunni scholars said someone is a shi'i, they meant proto-sunnis, who considered ali better than uthman. These are not imami shia.

AIUI we do the Tawaf-un-Nisa and they don't. And going by the following from Ayatollah Sistani's website you are right in the sense that 'it's not a basic element of Hajj'. But notwithstanding that - the implications of not doing it are pretty drastic and explaining it all to a Sunni beyond my abilities to be politically correct. https://www.sistani.org/english/book/47/2110/

My man, we were all just trying to encourage you to keep moving on with your life. Honestly it's not an attack on you. Do not be disheartened. Perhaps she felt you were too emotional. Women don't like emotional guys despite what you see on TikTok or instagram about 'Mens mental health' they don't care! Nobody cares (I CARE!!!) AS A MAN YOU JUST HAVE TO TAKE HITS AND KEEP EATING THEM & GET MENTALLY STRONGER!!! To conclude - the more you try to contact her to convince her that she should be married to you, the more you are pushing her away. The reason she told you to talk to other girls is probably because she's talking to other guys. And that's okay. Let it go, let it go (can't hold it back anymore)

Yes, what is the detailed reasoning? I mean a short sentence like "he was known to be weak in memory" literally means nothing.

Attractive, easy-going, but not your type

How do they become weak?

It is impossible you will ever find narration about our twelve Imams (عليه السلام) names in Sunni books, yes only 12 imams or khulafa but not by names.

Ate: I had two cups of coffee with milk and a little molasses, a few spoons of yogurt, and a whole wheat bagel with cream cheese and peach jam. I couldn't find a photo on the internet of a whole wheat bagel with cream cheese and peach jam, so here is one with cream cheese, sliced peaches, and honey. It looks very appealing. Eating: ... Will Eat: I have a very American, very white-people, chicken and vegetable stew in my crock pot. It has skinless boneless chicken, tiny potatoes, carrots, half an onion, minced garlic, canned stewed tomatoes, Italian seasoning, salt, and black pepper. We will be eating it with store bought French bread and butter. I may bring out some canned pineapple juice for us to enjoy along with, because I enjoy pineapple juice. I don't have any pictures, because it isn't ready yet. I'll try to remember to snap one before we break our fasts. That is all.

Don't.

I did play it cool, I was focusing on my job and my work, I wasn't some obsessive simp guy, I know how to take a lead but I can't fix a girl whos broken and has trust issues. Doesn't matter how cool and collective a guy is, girls today have their issues. I don't care if a Shia girl wears hijab and goes to Karbala but thinks its okay to take to a bunch of guys on the side. Girls also feel lonely and lost and do dumb things, that's the truth to. I didn't say I love her and it's a bit too much to say I have low self esteem, I know my value and I think I'm a great dude but even saying that people will then take it out of context and think I'm being pompous/cocky with my behaviour. End of the day Allah knows my intentions and like I said I go to mosque, I go to Islamic events regularly, I do go to the gym and work out and I never said I chase. But this girl should know better, some girls have such deep rooted issues, they said they believe in Imam Hussain's cause or Allah's will but they don't, they go against those words and beliefs so it's an internal struggle. I have a degree in political science studying politics, economics and law, I'm doing a Masters in public policy. Im a go-getter, Im not a waiter for others, she blew something out of proportion and I don't know if she has anxiety issues because I see that more and more with girls. The same way guys have to wrestle with themselves, so do girls. Again, emphasis on Allah's knows my intentions and who I am. I don't like to be extremely judgemental to others and this is a Shia forum so people should respectful in response, that's all I ask and I will leave it at that.

I like learning new things, just to understand the pov of others.

There’s a lot of benefit to reading through the Bible. On multiple levels. There is the interfaith relations level of understanding what people of the book have as their sources. But also partly for our own understanding of the Quran. The Quran, for the most part, does not have a lot of long-form narrative. Some for the story of Yusuf, some for the story of Musa. But aside from that, not really. When it deals with figures also in the Bible, it’s mostly callbacks. It alludes to the Biblical story without getting into the details. It seems to assume that the readers are already familiar with the stories. The focus is less on telling the details of the story, and more on calling out the story as an example of some larger point, often stringing together similar messages from the stories of different figures. There are a multiple passages in the Quran I recall that were rather obscure and only made any sense after having read the Bible story to which it alludes. I see some calling on the popular conception that the Bible was “corrupted.” It’s definitely a widespread understanding among our community, but in terms of basis for that belief in our sources, it’s not so clear. Some passages from the Quran seem to undermine this notion; the Quran talks about the Torah and Injeel as something the Jews and Christians of the day had, and as something that they could use as a basis for judgment. Which would be hard to do if they didn’t have it. It should be said though that Jews and Christians don’t understand most of their scripture in the same way as Muslims do the Quran — that is, as the literal “word of God.” Aside from perhaps the Torah and the “red letter” parts said to the words of Jesus in the Gospels, it’s all recognized as being the words of men, although perhaps with some inspiration from God. One interesting thing to reflect on is the meaning of “tahreef” — typically translated as distortion, and the forms it can possibly take. As we should be well aware from what we see from folks like Salafists, you don’t need to change the actual words to change the meaning. You just need to change how you read it. A good example is the New Testament. If you read through it, front to back, very carefully, you will be very very hard-pressed to find any hint of the supposed doctrine of the divinity of Christ there. Even in the letters of Paul, it’s almost not mentioned. There is much more emphasis on Jesus dying and being resurrected, and on the salvific benefit of that, that sort of stuff. But in terms of calling Jesus God — which is one of the most key beliefs in mainstream Christianity, it’s largely not there in the Bible. Ditto in terms of straightforward ideas of the doctrine of the trinity. Bart Ehrman has a pretty good book called How Jesus Became God that touches on some of this, how understanding shifted over time. So this is a classic example of how people just pull different things from the same text without trying to delete or add actual words.

Salaam. Wonderful thoughts on this post. There aren’t originals of Torah to be found. We are talking about an extremely old document. The oldest fragment of Torah dates back to around the time of the fall of the first Temple. It’s a priestly blessing on an amulet. The oldest relatively complete Torah is found among the Dead Sea scrolls. The Samaritans argue that their Torah is the oldest in the world. There’s actually a lot of commonality between the Septuagint (a Greek translation by Jewish sages of Egypt), the Samaritan Torah, and the Torah found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Where the Dead Sea Scrolls vary from the Masoretic text (the Torah found on scrolls in synagogues around the world), they tend to agree with the Septuagint and Samaritan Torah. Point being - when we talk about Torah, it’s been a document in flux. As far as the written gospels go, there was a tendency of the disciples of rabbis to follow their masters around and record what they taught and did. The goal was to understand how they lived and applied Torah. These collected “notebooks” were later argued over, redacted, and codified into Talmud. I suspect that the “gospels” were very much documents of this sort, acquiring the name of Jesus’ message much in the way that someone might point at the moon and the observer focuses in on the finger. Divorced from their context, I believe those gospels took on a new meaning and lost their substantive meaning. As far as oldest texts, I have no idea. Take care.

Salam just for more information Is it wrong for a Muslim to read the Torah and other divine religious books? Question: Is reading Torah and other books of heavenly religions wrong and haram for a Muslim? brief answer There is no problem for those who recognize its truth and falsehood. Otherwise, if there is a possibility of deviation of opinion, it is not permissible. Appendices: The answer of the great Marjas of Taqlid regarding this question is as follows: [1] Hazrat Grand Ayatollah Khamenei : There is no problem for those who recognize its truth and falsehood. Otherwise, it is not permissible if he is afraid of endangering of his religion or deviation in belief. Hazrat grand Ayatollah Shabiri Zanjani : There is no problem in itself, unless there is a fear of deviation, in which case it is not permissible. Hazrat Grand Ayatollah Makarem Shirazi: If he knows enough about his Islamic beliefs, there is no problem, but we recommend that you first strengthen and complete the basics of your beliefs. Hazrat Grand Ayatollah Noori Hamedani : If he is not an expert and able to diagnose, there is a problem. https://www.islamquest.net/fa/archive/fa57121

I think this point needs more emphasis. I have seen many especially new revert brothers and sisters make this mistake get confused, and then some of them end up losing their deen all together We should realize that Islam is in no need of any other religion to 'prop it up'. It stands on its own as a complete system.

Salaam, I personally have never heard an objection to us reading them, just as long as we understand that like you said, they have been corrupted. It's pretty easy, at least for me coming from a Christian background, to read the Bible and know what is in agreement with what the Quran says and what isn't. So the discernment needs to be there, but otherwise it's actually a very good thing to do because it helps us with interfaith dialogues. It helps us to better understand where christians and jews are coming from. One of the important things NOT to do is, don't try interpret what the Quran says based on the Torah and Injeel/New Testament. Because the Quran came to clarify what was changed in the other books, so dont use the other books to understand the Quran because it could lead You astray in your understanding of islam. Muslims don't take our religion from Christians and jews. That is one of the major objections to the Hadith that some use to justify fasting on muharram 10th... They claim the prophet(SAWS) came across some Jews that were fasting and when he asked them why they were fasting, they told him because they were commemorating the Jews release from egypt, and so the prophet supposedly decided to make fasting on muharram 10th something for Muslims to do, but we don't accept that for a few reasons. One of them is because the prophet (SAWS) would never take religious rulings from christians or jews. He took them only from Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), and if Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) wanted the ummah to fast on muharram 10th, it would have been a command from God, not a random person he ran into on a trail somewhere. As far as original Scriptures being around, I think the oldest scriptures that are tied to the New testament go back to around 75 years after prophet Issa's(عليه السلام) death, but I am not sure of any existing ORIGINAL scriptures from the Torah/Old Testament. I'd have to look further into that. I mean, there's probably some stuff, but I don't know for sure.

Muhammad b. al-Muthanna – Yahya b. Hammad – Abu ‘Awanah – Yahya b. Sulaym Abu Balj – ‘Amr b. Maymun – Ibn ‘Abbas: The Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, said to ‘Ali: “You are to me of the status of Harun to Musa, with the exception that you are not a prophet. And you are my khalifah over every believer after me.”2 1) Hadith Al-Khilafah | On The Khilafah Of ‘Ali Over Abu Bakr | Al-Islam.org This report is ma'lool (defective). Abu bali confused maymun Abu abdullah who is a weak narrator as amr bin maymoon. Imām ibn Rajab al-Hanbalī pointed out the mistake made by Abu Balj in this report, stating: وذكر عبد الغني بن سعيد المصري الحافظ أن أبا بلج أخطأ في اسم عمرو بن ميمون هذا، وليس هو بعمرو بن ميمون المشهور، إنما هو ميمون أبو عبد الله مولى عبد الرحمن بن سمرة، وهو ضعيف. …and ‘Abd al-Ghanī al-Maşrī al-Hāfidh, said that Abū Balj made a mistake in this name of “‘Amr ibn Maymūn”, and it is not the famous ‘Amr ibn Maymūn, but it is rather, Maymūn Abū ‘Abdullāh the slave of ‘Abd-al-Rahmān ibn Samurah, and he is weak. [Ref: Sharh ‘Ilal al-Tirmidhī, by Ibn Rajab al-Hanbalī, Vol: 2, P: 282]

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