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there are different levels of love, and to those point dexters out there, its got nothing to do with lust, lust and attraction is a later part of love... Love bef marriage is when you meet someone, and after a few signs, you realise you are both interested in each other, and you cannot get her off your mind! You cannot sleep You cannot eat all i want to do is talk to her but you cant all you want is to be with her but you cant she drives you insane, crazy, your heart feels a feeling that you cannot handle, it falls into your stomach and basically every single second without her is misery (this is then when you approach her and ask for her hand/get married) Love is when you work 7 days like a dog 2 jobs, for the best things in life Love is when you help out, even though she doesnt want you to ! Love is when you like to see your partner smile, you spoil her with gifts, flowers ! Say what you want guys n girls, but i sense most of you guys are too afraid to embrace love ! Out of fear of rejection ! but thats a part of life, for every girl/guy that rejects you/doesnt work out , its just another reason to love your NASEEB, ten times more and fully appreciate them in the future ! Salams

Oh shut up.

(bismillah) (salam) Partly inspired by S.hassan's recent thread that was unfortunately prematurely shut down, I would like to open a thread where some issues people may have with me can be discussed, and insha'Allah some misunderstandings can be cleared up. The reason I would like to do this is that from talking to various people, I have noticed that they often form a certain opinion of me based on my posts, that is not really an accurate representation of my views or behaviour, and then when they actually talk to me they have a slight change of mind. Of course, some people may have good reasons for disliking either me personally, or what I write, and I'm willing to accept that, and to apologise if necessary. So the idea is that anyone who has some issue with me or my approach to posting can tell me what the problem is, and I will either try to correct them if I feel it is innaccurate, give my point of view, or accept that I am in the wrong and try to learn from it. Views from people that generally sympathetic towards my posts are also welcome, if they feel they can contribute something. I am not looking to debate issues that have already been gone over many times such as muta or polygamy, just my approach to posting in general. I am hoping that as a result of this thread, my relationships with certain posters may become more amicable, or at the very least that their will be a better mutual understanding. I am also looking forward to hearing from people I have not previously interacted much with, but who take exception to at least some of what I post. If there any post I have made that you feel was particularly out of line, or disgusting, then feel free to post it as well. Feel free to address me in as harsh a tone as you want, or even to insult me if necessary. I don't mind, and the main thing is people express their true thoughts and feelings, and then we can begin a discussion about it, insha'Allah.

i think you know the answer to that one. you are going to wait it out, until the guy you want comes along...concentrate on you and not on your friends who are getting married....

(bismillah) Even if homosexuality is a "natural process", as so many corrupt people in the west say it is, does that make it OK? Lets expand the theory a little - if people are "born" as homosexuals, people are also born as paedophiles, murderers, rapists - does that mean paedophilia, murdering and raping is OK? If so, then throw out the rule book, and let anyone do whatever they want. Being homosexual itself is not a sin in Islam, but acting on those urges is a sin, just like how having sex outside marriage is. Imam Amir ul Mu’mineen Ali [a] said: “If man perceived his death and its speed towards him, he would certainly detest the world and its hopes.” The Holy Prophet said: “After myself, I fear of three things for my Ummah: misguidance after knowledge, misleading temptations, and the lust of the stomach and the privy parts.” (salam)

I have to agree with you about the inter-faith threads, some of the best akhlaq on here is by ppl who identify themselves as non-muslim.

Are you deluded? He is more specialized about what exactly? Have you read his posts? Israel has an impressive track record when it comes to fighting terrorism and Iraq can learn a lot from their experience. Israel is surrounded by enemies, like Iraq is today, but has managed to survive and prosper. Since when did Israel fight terrorism? Unless he is referring to killing innocent women and children, his posts are quite baseless.

Thanks man people are sooo damn fixated on stupid theories go out there and EXPERIENCE LIFE Listen to those who have been down that path before dont just brush them off bec they dont have a PHD or know the Quran and Nahjul Balagha inside out , or a fat bank account lol Seriously its just saddddd

You are only 19, you will see the world differently at 21, and then again at 25 your entire perspective on things will probably change. Don't stress it. If somewhere along the way you find a decent guy, then you should seriously think about settling. These days, it is always a gamble you take, but it doesnt hurt to be optimistic about things, there are good people around.

Kamran i've never seen this side of you before :o

Laying.. Watching the ceiling, not looking, but watching.. I see nothing but the dark, maybe my eyes aren't as open as they used to be? Or maybe.. Just maybe they are fully open for the first time.. The world senses the darkness upon its mass. Heavy, lingering presence that all those wanting to see; watch on as it consumes our lands.. Death is everywhere, we cannot escape it yet we cannot bear it.. As i lay here, head on my pillow, gazing upward watching the world engulf itself in total destruction. I think of those subjected to it, who are they? They are the innocence, they are the young, they are the old, they are the free, they are the good, they are god's people.. And yet i am in the safety of my bed, watching them.. Watching as the darkness surrounds them.. Watching their pain, agony, suffering, loss.. Yet i cannot fathom their bravery, their courage, their strength, their will, their faith.. They are a testament to all that is good in the world by forbidding the evil.. Yet when i watch them, i see a fliker.... Yes.. Light. Their hearts are burning, beating against the dark that threatens. Then i realise.. What is common of these nobles? Hope. One day this light will transform.. It will brighten, it will spread, it will fight the darkness, it will win.. I just pray to god that they are patient.. I am nothing compared to these people. May the imam (as) come so that i may be able to gaze up and see light once again.. So i lay here waiting.. Watching out for that light..

Do you have nothing better to do that continuously casting arrows at other Shi`as?

Lol, I love how 'most guys on Shia Chat' will think that this doesn't apply to them.

i would like to say that if i have offended or upset anyone on sc, im happy and you deserve it and you can kiss my ass

Apparently, bashing HH is waajib. :Hijabi: At OP, I've probably already told you this but I think that you tend to present ideas which are backed up by evidence, however, because your views are backed by hadith it comes across as if you're not willing to see other points of view people may hold. For example, if I said a 9 year old getting married is not a good idea in today's society (they're not yet mature) you may turn around and tell me it is allowed in in Islam and present me with countless proofs. I would then go on to insist my view but your only reply would be 'it's allowed in Islam'. Then I would probably be like 'So you want to marry a nine year old then?!!?' out of frustration cause you're not even bothering to discuss what I've said. For the record though, I've barely talked to you and have no issue with your posts, just saying what I've seen. :Hijabi:

eh exactly thats the only way to experience love. when you are 50 and beyond and your spouse is changing your diaper. Then it will dawn upon you what love really is. you cannot experience it at a younger age ever. you have to be old, wrinkly, saggy, graying hair with dentures to embrace the concept of love. if you experience love at any age younger than it is null and void, because the hormones are raging. Only when you reach menopause and your husband's hair fall out will you be sober enough to know what love is. When your husband starts to chronically fart and has bowel problems and you dont use the air freshner, then you will know what love is. sooooooooo romantic

For me, being hezbollahi has nothing to do with the marja' I follow or the country I support..Being hezbollahi only shows that If Imam Mahdi was to reappear , I would be ready to sacrifice myself for him.

Oh no, im not fifty, and regardless of age, i have spoken and been, chased and been chased by more females, then you know males and females put together !!!! Say what you want, judge how you want, it really doesn't bother me what so ever !!! I think you should focus on becoming the 3rd wheel on a certain 2 wheel bike on this forum lol and start behaving responsibly, because as everyone knows, i have a very big mouth, and have no shame in humiliating those who behave with childish manners !!! Get some proper analogies will you ? THanks Salam sis

I didnt say everything that was genetic was a disease. I said that there are genetic disease, so being genetic doesnt automatically make something okay.

his father got the key to the haram of ameerul momineen and put it back into the hands of the baathist spy who used to be in charge. this kutta da puttar baathist used to be in charge of monitoring zawaar, if anyone cried too much or said or did anything he did not like, they would be arrested on his orders and sent to jail. we all know what that means. so yeah, his dad after saddam fell n the haram was put back in the hands of shias, took the key and found that dude and said he was back in charge. he then, in his infinite wisdom, challenged and dared the outraged mob who gathered in protest to go against his word. so they totally killed his ass. i have no time for him or his qooh da dadduh son.

Let's don't lose hope. InshAllah it WILL happen jn our lifetimes. I just hope, Imam (as) finds us on his side.

Yes, but you have to look at the whole picture. The Mahdi Army are of the 'eye for an eye' mindset. I'll tell you a little story. There was a road which had a Shia mosque on one side, and a Sunni mosque opposite. One day, Sunnis blew up the Shia mosque. The next day, Mahdi Army blew up the Sunni one. Then, they rebuilt the Shia one, making it even bigger and better than it was before. The Sunni one was never rebuilt. Another story. The road between Hilla and Baghdad was known as the 'route of death'. No one used it, it was two dangerous. The Mahdi Army cleared it. Now, i'm not saying I agree with alot of their actions - I know what alot of the members of the Mahdi Army are like; but, to say that they go around killing Sunnis?

Lies will lead you to no good. That's why it's Haram to lie even if it's a tiny lie. Just tell him the truth. Don't be scared. If you've done nothing wrong then your father shouldn't get angry. If he's an angry man, then he needs to stop taking out his anger on to you guys. You and your family need to tell your father that this is not acceptable and will no longer be tolerated. This might sound difficult to you, but no body wants to spend their life lying and been fearful of their father. Be strong and just confront your father about all the things he is doing to you guys.

I wouldn't say 'very strongly'. He disagreed with it, gave valid points for it, but otherwise, they had mutual respect and let each other get on with things. Hardly. He wrote that Iraqi Sunnis are oppressed by Shias. That's just retarded.

Does the poster seem like she wants muta? Muta has literally no relevance to her post.

Maybe it's something called aging. Playboy lifestyle is not the cause for hair loss nor diminishing vision. And regarding fat, I can show you some Irani marjas/scholars that have a belly/overweight. Nothing wrong with a playboy lifestyle as long as it's halal. We are no one to judge. It's like a club atmosphere, even mourning is evolving. Another 10-20 they'll have disco lights flashing.

Sayyed Abbas Al-Mousawi on the left Imam Khamenei [ha] at centre Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah on the right Notice the posture of both Sayyed Abbas Al-Mousawi and Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah... Subhanallah!

We need a Word stronger than OWNED to describe what happened to These callers

I know I know, what with the chantings of the ear being cut off and arab accents associated with monster-like faces et cetera et cetera... Anyway I was still a kid when I watched it and loved the middle eastern aura, it was a good break from all the gora faces that are common in disney movies. Oddly enough my sister has a...ummm....massive crush on Aladdin XD

Maybe Allah is testing you; or saving a really amazing guy for you. Don't forget, Allah created us in pairs, so there is someone out there who is perfect for you. You just have to be patient.

As Salam Wa alaykum. I have never this before either but I wouldn't say it's impossible... But I highly doubt it. You never know, if it is true he wouldn't be the first Muslim to be ripped off. Imam Jafar As-Saidq (as) at the age of 11 refuted the theory that the sun and planets ect all revolve around the earth.. And later on in his life he was the first to discover that the earth rotates on its own axis. But this discovery later was given to Galileo instead of Imam As-Sadiq (as) -_- who made this discovery a 1000 years before Galileo was born! But back to your question, as the brother put it, there is no reason as to why he could not know about it but he I don't think he invented it... There is no reason to say he couldn't of had at least some knowledge about them... He even told his followers that there are other beings that Allah created that dont live on earth. Imam Ali (A.S) Said: "Do you think that Allah has not created any beings/creatures but you?"..."These stars you see in the sky have/contain cities just like those on earth" - Bihar AlAnwar But idk how authentic this Hadith is.. And also he says there are other beings living on the stars... And we all know how nice and warm it is on the stars (SUN!) :P

if they dont have a sense of humor then that says something about them...seriously

the mating call of umar and afflah?

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They need to turn Syria into a graveyard of Wahabis, Jordanians terrorists, and U.S. and Israeli snipers. Higgins and justice4all should be forced to be tied up at the top of this graveyard of the above. They should smell the stench of their treacherous lies.

I bought my father a tatbeer sword for X-mas.

Forgot to mention! This caller ^ was justice4all.

It is funny because in a few years we may say the same thing about pedophilia.

Many people who know me on this board know what my views are on the issue of feminism. I know my views are quite unorthodox and do not represent "Muslim women" as an entity. I'd like to know your opinions on the following questions and begin an engaging, and much-needed discussion on how Muslim women see themselves. That said, I would really appreciate that the men on this board NOT answer the questions I have poised below. The problem with almost every topic on women's issues on this board entail the fact that its always men speaking about what they think about women's issues, and not what women feel for themselves. I would also like to premise this discussion by saying that I do not wish to wave my flag of "western feminism" at your faces - I simply want to engage in a discussion on how conscious women are of their rights, and perhaps how much they SHOULD be conscious. I would appreciate your answers to the following questions. You do not have to answer all of the questions if you do not want to or do not feel comfortable doing so. I also apologize in advance if my biases bleed into my questions. My intention is not to impose myself or sound ignorant. There are certain values I believe in very strongly, and its pretty hard to hide my biases. 1. Do you believe Islam is a patriarchal religion? If so, do you have any trouble reconciling this? 2. Do you consider yourself a feminist? If so, how do you define 'feminism'? If not, why not? 3. How do you define what it means to be a Muslim woman. For the sake of this discussion lets say there is a new term called "Muslim Womanism" (sort of like the term "feminism"), what values and ideas would you attach to it? (ex, equality? motherhood?) 4. Do you wear hijab? If not, why not? - If you used to wear the hijab, and decided to take it off, what led you to your decision? 5. Should women be involved in politics (if so to what extent)? How do you feel about male politicians deciding laws for women? 6. What improvements do you think needs to be made toward the status of women in Muslim culture? For example, some women feel that there needs to be translations of the quran by women, or more female scholars to interpret the fiqh rules for women (as opposed to having a male ayatollah decide the rules for them). Do you think they might be unfair or unreasonable? Skimming through the a risalah for example, there is are some details I've always felt are quite difficult to follow, especially rules on menstruation. 7. In your experience, have you always been treated by men 'fairly' and respectfully? Do you ever feel inferior around community men to a point you feel uncomfortable? On a similar note, do you think the lecturers in mosques do a fair job talking about women's issues? Many of us have heard Ammar's rant about Muslim women who don't wear their hijabs properly. Are you okay with male preaches lecturing women about their hijab? or should women be the ones engaging in this discussion themselves? 8. How do you feel about female circumcision? 9. What are your thoughts about polygamy? 10. What are your thoughts about mutah? Does (or did) your virginity hold any special importance to you? 11. What age do you want to get married/What age do you think women should get married? Before college? After pursuing a career? Once again, I do not expect you to answer ALL the questions - just the ones that you feel comfortable talking about. I would like as much participation as possible. Its okay if you have not given thought about some of these questions before (I know there are 14-15 year olds, and I would very much like their opinions too!).

You're ugly and you stink- no one wants to sit next to you.

^ looool

You! You switch from Killa Kam to Philosopher Kam.

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I havent read the issue you are discussing above,, but: I agree with the Insults to others in some forums. Even if its a joke its not nice to spam the thread and keep making it long and filling it up with insults.... others such as myself come to read and comment , but when the thread is filled with none sense,, I don't even bother reading the posts nor commenting anymore. The site is becoming boring to be honest. Admins need to be doing their jobs but instead some admins join the spamming,,, which makes me even more frustrated.

Frozen Yogurt and berries. Most delicious dessert ever.

He was forced to retire due to his ailing health. His biological father was Syrian. He never knew him or cared much for him. Too bad for his father actually. What has the Middle East produced in the last 2 centuries? New technologies in milking camels? i.e. using two hands instead of one? That's not for you to judge.