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A Shia Argument Against The Sunni "sahaba View"
diracdeltafunc and 2 others reacted to Hasanayn for a topic
Salaams all, I've recently been having some debates with Sunnis, and I have alhamdulillah found a way to disprove their viewpoint on the Sahaba using only the Qur'an and their own sources. I thought I should share so that insha'Allah everyone may benefit. From my dialogue, I ascertained that practically all Sunnis believe in the doctrine that the companions of the Prophet were the best people on earth. Of course, we Shi'a know that this is far from the truth. There are good apples and bad apples in every generation, and it is quite presumptuous to assume that the first generation of Muslims was any different. Many Sunnis however jump to the conclusion that since these early Muslims faced intense opposition and stuck with their faith, they are the best. But there are many examples of Muslims sticking with the faith throughout the world, regardless of their oppression. In fact, if one were to subscribe to the Sunni way of thinking, one could even argue that these aforementioned Muslims are better, because they remain steadfast in their religion even when they don't have the luxury of being with the Prophet physically. Indeed, there is a hadith that states: Yahya related to me from Malik from al-Ala ibn Abd ar-Rahman from his father from Abu Hurayra that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, went to the burial grounds and said, "Peace be upon you, home of a people who believe! We shall be among you, Allah willing. I wish that I had seen our brothers!" The people with him said, "Messenger of Allah! Are we not your brothers?" "No," he said, "You are my companions. Our brothers are those who have not yet come. And I will precede them to the Hawd. (Malik- 2.6.29) Here, we will try to prove through use of the Qur'an and Sunni sources that some of the supposed "companions" of the Prophet were actually quite evil. Throughout the course of this discussion, we will use the Sunni definition of companion--that anyone who saw the Prophet is one of his Sahaba. To start, we use this verse of the Qur'an: "O ye who believe! When an evil-doer comes to you with news then verify it, lest you injure a people in ignorance, and then regret what you have done later." (Hujraat: 6) According to Al-Wahidi's (a Sunni scholar) Asbaab an-Nuzul: "This verse were revealed about al-Walid ibn ‘Uqbah ibn Abi Mu‘ayt. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, sent him to collect the poor-due from Banu’l-Mustaliq. However, there was an old enmity between him and them in the pre-Islamic period. When these people heard of his coming, they came out to receive him out of reverence for Allah, exalted is He, and His Messenger. But he was scared of them and the devil whispered to him that they wanted to kill him. He returned halfway and went to the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, saying: “Banu’l-Mustaliq have refused to pay the poor-due and wanted to kill me”. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, became angry and was about to attack them. Meanwhile, when Banu’l-Mustaliq realised that the emissary had gone back, they went to the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, and said: “We heard of your emissary and we went out to receive him, honour him and give him that which was due upon us of the right of Allah, exalted is He. But your emissary went back and we feared that what sent him back might be a message he received from you because you are angry with us. And we seek refuge in Allah from His wrath and from the wrath of His Messenger”. The Qur'an appropriately describes him as a faasiq (evil-doer), but as you can see, Wahidi tries to make it look like Walid only made a mistake since Shaitan tempted him. In other words, a Sunni may try to defend Walid by stating that he only committed a mistake and repented later. However, the Qur'an has described this man as a faasiq, someone who lives for the sake of evil. Now we must ask: was Allah's description of Walid temporally limited (i.e. was it only for the given situation that Walid was an evil-doer?)? The answer, according to the Qur'an, is a resounding no. Here's another verse: "The word never changes with me, and I am not in the least unjust to my slaves" (Surah Qaf: 29) Decisively, then, we can say that when the Qur'an described Walid as a faasiq, it was describing his fitraa (nature). He was evil through and through, otherwise Allah would not have described him as such. Indeed, we can see from history that this statement in the Qur'an remained true till the end of Walid's life. When he was appointed governor of Kufa by Uthman, he led the Fajr prayers in the mosque while drunk! Not only that, but several Sahaba were praying behind him! Who, in their right minds, would pray behind someone that the Qur'an has addressed as a faasiq? Then again, who would appoint such a person as the governor of Kufa? Obviously, this can only be the work of the third "rightly-guided" Khalifa. Now then, it is clear that just because someone was a companion of our beloved Prophet, it does not mean that he is of the highest caliber in faith. A Sunni may object to this however. They might state the following, for instance: "The Prophet would only surround himself with the best of people, being that he is the Messenger of God. He would be way more selective regarding whom he is seen with because these people have a direct bearing on his public image." A simple objection to this simple-minded argument can be garnered from the Qur'an however: "And among them, [O Muhammad], are those who listen to you, until when they depart from you, they say to those who were given knowledge, "What has he said just now?" Those are the ones of whom Allah has sealed over their hearts and who have followed their [own] desires." (Surah Muhammad: 16) These people who are referred to in this verse would, according to the Sunni definition, qualify as companions of the Prophet. Nonetheless, Allah has described them as those whose hearts are sealed and those who follow their own desires. Furthermore, the Qur'an is telling the Prophet that this is what some of his so-called companions do. The Prophet doesn't know, but Allah is telling him that he has hypocrites among his companions. The Qur'an is crystal clear! Here is another verse from the same Surah: "And if We willed, We could show them to you, and you would know them by their mark; but you will surely know them by the tone of [their] speech. And Allah knows your deeds." (Surah Muhammad: 30) Now, I ask you Sunnis, who speaks to the Prophet except those who are obviously around him (his Sahaba)? It is manifest here that the Prophet did not know the evil ones among his companions, except by their tone. Who, then, are those who speak in the aforementioned tone? We can't say for sure, but we know for certain who said concerning the Prophet, "The old man is delirious. The Qur'an is enough for us." In conclusion, then, the Qur'an testifies against this impeccable view of the Sahaba. There must be a differentiation made for Sunnis between the good Sahaba and the corrupt ones. With the Ahlul Bayt, though, one can never go wrong. They have been thoroughly purified by Allah, and one will never find even one speck of corruption in their hearts: "Allah intends only to remove from you the impurity [of sin], O people of the [Prophet's] household, and to purify you with [extensive] purification." (Surah Ahzaab: 33) It is time for the Sunnis to see that by following the Sahaba blindly, they are following haq (truth) mixed with baatil (falsehood). It is only through following the Prophet's progeny that they can hope to follow the absolute truth: "And say, "Truth has come, and falsehood has departed. Indeed is falsehood, [by nature], ever bound to depart."" (Surah Isra: 81) Sadaqallahul-Allee-ul-Adheem Wassalaam, Hasanayn3 points -
Akbhari? Usooli? Akhooli? Usoolbari?
aladdin and 2 others reacted to Ya Aba 3abdillah for a topic
Can't speak about other places, but in Leb, Fadhlullah for example, publicly published the finances of what was gathered from charities. Remember back in 2000 seeing some figures, somewhere around $20M, and it had been steadily increasing from previous years. Orphanages were open and you could sponsor an orphan, and you'd get a yearly card with pic and how they were progressing with their education, etc. You're also invited to a yearly function to the orphanage. In another example, after the July 06 war, the towns and city blocks that were destroyed were rebuilt by what was called "maal at-taahir" (pure wealth), as Sayyid Khamena'i gave the go ahead for revenue from Imam Redha (as) to go for that reconstruction.3 points -
Easy Eyesight Exercises
gogiison2 and one other reacted to Aabiss_Shakari for a topic
(salam) A number of Eyesight Exercises can help Improve Your Eyesight. Many people are not comfortable wearing eyeglasses or contact lenses so they seek natural methods to correct any Eyesight Problems. The costs involved in certain eye procedures and surgeries along with the need to deal with constant headaches and other associated, can be stressful. In many instances, people don’t need to depend on any apparatus and gain better eyesight without glasses. No matter whether you are young or old, there are natural ways to improve eyesight naturally. When the ocular muscles are regularly exercised, they become strong enough to improve vision. Understanding how the eyes function will help you take better care of them. Neglecting the eyes can only result in loss of vision. 1. PALMING: Palming is one of the most common eyesight exercises that can prevent you from spending on expensive surgeries and procedures in the long run. The simple exercise involves rubbing your palms together until they are warm and then placing them over your eyes for a few minutes so you have complete blackness. This exercise is best performed in a dark room. Before you performing any eyesight exercises, it is important to practice regulated breathing. Breathe from the depth of your stomach and use your nose when breathing in and your mouth when breathing out. Take slow, steady, and deep breaths and repeat the exercise a few times before you move on to eye sight exercises. Also make sure that you are taking vitamins that naturally improve eye health. 2. LOOKING AT FOCUSING AT DIFFERENT SIZE OBJECTS: Another easy eyesight exercise is to look at a large object like a building. Focus on the building as a whole and then move on to the windows, doors, and roof. Note as many features about the building as you can. This will help your ocular muscles become better focused which results in improved eyesight. You can try the same exercise while looking at a tree. 3. FREQUENT BLINKING: Frequent blinking helps to lubricate the eyes in a safe and natural way. Close your eyes, make a few backward and forward movements with your head, and then open them slowly one at a time. Repeat this exercise a few times and you will be able to focus better. This simple exercise relaxes the eyes and gives it a well-deserved rest. Blinking for around two minutes every three to four seconds is enough to energize and refresh your eyes. 4. IMPORTANCE OF FIGURE 8: Among the simple eye sight exercises is to use the figure 8 to increase the flexibility of your eye muscles. Image the figure 8 in front of you and trace it with your eyes. This will reduce eyestrain so practice it as often as you can if you sit at a computer for long hours. You will be surprised as how easily this exercise can improve your vision. 5. FOCUSING ON EYE CHART OR CALENDER AND A DISTANT OBJECT: If you have an eye chart or a large calendar at home, you can use it to your advantage. Look at the calendar hanging on the wall and then shift your focus to a distant object. Then look at the calendar once more and focus on a few letters or dates. Look down once again and focus on distant objects. This one of the best eyesight exercises to help in eyesight restoration. Finally, remember me in your prayers :)2 points -
Avoiding Enjoyable Food
wonderer and one other reacted to IraqiAmerican777 for a topic
just remember= nothing tastes as good as skinny feels.2 points -
Q For Those That Believe The Imams Are All Hearing
In Gods Name and one other reacted to guest 34193 for a topic
وَإِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ أَأَنْتَ قُلْتَ لِلنَّاسِ اتَّخِذُونِي وَأُمِّيَ إِلَٰهَيْنِ مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ ۖ قَالَ سُبْحَانَكَ مَا يَكُونُ لِي أَنْ أَقُولَ مَا لَيْسَ لِي بِحَقٍّ ۚ إِنْ كُنْتُ قُلْتُهُ فَقَدْ عَلِمْتَهُ ۚ تَعْلَمُ مَا فِي نَفْسِي وَلَا أَعْلَمُ مَا فِي نَفْسِكَ ۚ إِنَّكَ أَنْتَ عَلَّامُ الْغُيُوبِ {116 مَا قُلْتُ لَهُمْ إِلَّا مَا أَمَرْتَنِي بِهِ أَنِ اعْبُدُوا اللَّهَ رَبِّي وَرَبَّكُمْ ۚ وَكُنْتُ عَلَيْهِمْ شَهِيدًا مَا دُمْتُ فِيهِمْ ۖ فَلَمَّا تَوَفَّيْتَنِي كُنْتَ أَنْتَ الرَّقِيبَ عَلَيْهِمْ ۚ وَأَنْتَ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ شَهِيدٌ {117 And when God said, 'O Jesus son of Mary, didst thou say unto men, "Take me and my mother as gods, apart from God"?' He said, 'To Thee be glory! It is not mine to say what I have no right to. If I indeed said it, Thou knowest it, knowing what is within my soul, and I know not what is within Thy soul; Thou knowest the things unseen I only said to them what Thou didst command me: "Serve God, my Lord and your Lord." And I was a witness over them, while I remained among them; but when Thou didst take me to Thyself, Thou wast Thyself the watcher over them; Thou Thyself art witness of everything. (5:116-117)2 points -
Member Post Appreciation Thread
Naz_ and one other reacted to Kamranistan for a topic
(salam) Right, members I appreciate and what for: Shia_debater - This kid is the HAPPIEST most WELCOMING guy on this website. His posts and always useful to others and he shows he's got a lot to offer. He's inspirational and seriously bro I've taken a lot from you :) I pray that Allah blesses you and insha'Allah you have patience with your tests atm. P.S. He LOVES Nakshwani lol. AghaAli - Literally love this kid :wub: Masha'Allah at such a young age, the awareness and knowledge he has is something desired by all especially at his age. Plus he's a joooooka. I see him like a lil bro. Mystery* - Always makes me crave doughnuts :donno: and then calls me fat? Thanks a lot :no: (btw she thinks she's funny). Seriously though MUCH respect for this ahlulbayt (as) lover. Naz_ - Best Chat mod ever and her Akhlaq is blindingly awesome, she posts rarely but when she does someone is always helped out ^_^ Helped me out when I was in need of nohays :lol: she sent me A LOT, much appreciated for taking your time for that. Blissful - Moodiest chat mod ever. loool she sometimes is JOKES. But na seriously her poems need to be read.. Habib e Najjar - She's got KNOWLEDGE and her posts always are useful to me in some way or another.. Again her poems are something else. Replicant - This guy has a lot more to say, but instead he keeps slightly reserved. I'm telling you he's got knowledge man, we could all benefit more from him if he could share ;) Also, I agree with most things he posts. Ya Aba 3bdillah - His post always make me crack up, funny as hell :lol: Ali_Syed - My wasteman cousin.. lol na seriously his posts 'battles' with the likes of isilurian/Fink/Rothchild (can't remember the rest) are too be read, especially the 9/11, illuminati threads etc quite amusing actually. He is gaining in knowledge quick time, masha'Allah. Aabiss_Shakari - KNOWLEDGE, need to read his threads and posts if you haven't already. Barader_jackson - Don't really know what to say :donno: Basim_Ali - Surprised he hasn't even been mentioned yet, unless he has and i missed it, his posts are soooo beneficial alhamdhulilah. 14Infallibles - Sorry Bliss but this guy has the best Akhlaq on this website. Hands down. Mash'Allah bro. MDM - 'I hate because, I love' Sums him up perfectly. Oh almost forgot, his poems are amazing. Mushu - MC on the miccc :lol: Zareen - Best mod imo. Oops, sorry WAS the best mod :( _JuGNii - Str8 up Paki. lol LOVES cricket and is a JOKER, never serious. And you can't forget her famous avatar :o Ruqaya's amal - Interesting posts worth a read. SSS 'bhai' - Haven't really read any of his posts but he's a JOKER in the chat room, he is active masha'Allah may Allah reward him. Legio invicta - Love reading this guys posts :lol: Err, there are more but I got a bit busy. But seriously I've learnt and taken a lot from many people on this website. I'd just like to thank those who actually set-up this website. May Allah bless you.. I'll post more later insha'Allah.2 points -
Hadith Of 12 Caliphs Doesn't Belong To Shia
Aabiss_Shakari and one other reacted to Qa'im for a topic
(salam) What "proof" are you looking for exactly? Just because Ibn Taymiyya said he did not exist, it doesn't mean he was basing his opinion off of anything factual. After all, he's the same guy that said the killing of `Umar ibn Sa`d was worse than the killing of Sayyid ash-Shabaab Ahl aj-Janna Imam al-Husayn (as). The argument that there is "no proof" for his existence is getting old. What, for you, constitutes as proof? Are the words of the Imams themselves good enough, or do you need Ibn Taymiyya to tell you that al-Qa'im (as) exists? So what kind of evidence do you want? Ahadith? Because we have plenty of those you know. محمد بن يحيى، عن أحمد بن إسحاق، عن أبي هاشم الجعفري قال: قلت لابي محمد عليه السلام: جلالتك تمنعني من مسألتك، فتأذن لي أن أسألك؟ فقال: سل، قلت: يا سيدي هل لك ولد؟ فقال: نعم، فقلت: فإن بك حدث فأين أسأل عنه؟ فقال: بالمدينة. Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Ishaq from abu Hashim al-Ja‘fari who has said the following. "I said to abu Muhammad (Imam Hasan Askari) (a.s.), ‘Your grace causes shyness to me to ask you questions. May I ask you a question?" He said, "Yes, you may ask." I said, "My master, do you have a son?" He said, "Yes, I do have a son." I then said, "If anything will happen to you, where would I ask about him?" He replied, "In Madina." Source: - Al-Kafi, Vol 1, Pg 328, H 2 -Allama Majlisi: Saheeh -Mir'aat al-Uqool, vol. 4, pg. 328 ------------------------ علي بن محمد، عن محمد بن إسماعيل بن موسى بن جعفر وكان أسن شيخ من ولد رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله بالعراق فقال: رأيته بين المسجدين وهو غلام عليه السلام. Shaykh Mufid narrates on the authority of Muhammad b. Ismail b. Musa b.Jafar - who was the oldest Shaykh of the family of Muhammad in Iraq who said: I saw the son of Hasan b. Ali b. Muhammad between the two Mosques (Makkah and Madina) while he was a youth. http://www.alseraj.n...kafi-1/141.html -------------------------- علي بن محمد، عن محمد بن صالح قال: كانت لي جارية كنت معجبا بها فكتبت أستأمر في استيلادها، فورد استولدها، ويفعل الله ما يشاء، فوطئتها فحبلت ثم أسقطت فماتت. "I had a female slave that had attracted my attention. I wrote to him (Imam al-Mahdi (a.s.) requesting permission to have a child from her. The answer came, "You may do so but Allah does whatever He wants." I went to bed with her and she became pregnant. The fetus fell off prematurely and she died." ----------------------------- حدثنا أبي ؛ ومحمد بن الحسن بن أحمد بن الوليد رضي الله عنهما قالا : حدثنا عبد الله بن جعفر الحميري قال : حدثني محمد بن صالح الهمداني قال : كتبت إلى صاحب الزمان عليه السلام : إن أهل بيتي يؤذونني ويقرعونني ( 1 ) بالحديث الذي روي عن أبائك عليهم السلام أنهم قالوا : قوامنا وخدامنا شرار خلق الله ، فكتب عليه السلام : « ويحكم أما تقرؤون ما قال عزوجل : « وجعلنا بينهم وبين القرى التي باركنا فيها قرى ظاهرة » ( 2 ) ونحن والله القرى التي بارك الله فيها وأنتم القرى الظاهرة » . قال عبد الله بن جعفر : وحدثنا بهذا الحديث علي بن محمد الكليني ، عن محمد ابن صالح ، عن صاحب الزمان عليه السلام . 2 – My father and Muhammad b. al Hasan b. Ahmad b. al Walid رضي الله عنهما (may Allah be pleased with them) narrated to us. They said: `Abdullah b. Ja`far al Himyari narrated to us. He said: Muhammad b. Salih al Hamadani narrated to me. He said: I wrote to Sahib al Zaman عليه السلام: My household causes me trouble and rebuke me (scold me (correction) and in other versions: يفزعونني – scare me) with the hadith narrated from your fathers عليهم السلام that they said: Our caretakers and our servants are the worst of Allah’s creation. So he عليه السلام wrote: And He commands that you should recite what He, عزوجل says: 'And We made between them and the towns which We had blessed manifest (prominent) towns’ [surat al Saba’:18]. And by Allah! We are the towns Allah has blessed therein and you are the manifest (prominent) towns. `Abdullah b. Ja`far said: And this hadith was narrated to us by `Ali b. Muhammad al Kulayni from Muhammad b. Salih from Sahib al Zaman عليه السلام. ------------------------------ حدثنا محمد بن علي ماجيلويه (رحمه الله)، قال: حدثنا علي بن إبراهيم، عن أبيه، عن الريان بن شبيب، قال: دخلت على الرضا (عليه السلام) في أول يوم من المحرم، فقال لي: يا بن شبيب، أصائم أنت؟ فقلت: لا. فقال: إن هذا اليوم هو اليوم الذي دعا فيه زكريا (عليه السلام) ربه عز وجل، فقال: (رب هب لى من لدنك ذرية طيبة إنك سميع الدعاء) (1) فاستجاب به، وأمر الملائكة فنادت زكريا وهو قائم يصلي في المحراب: (أن الله يبشرك بيحيى) (2) فمن صام هذا اليوم ثم دعا الله عز وجل استجاب الله له، كما استجاب لزكريا (عليه السلام). ثم قال: يا بن شبيب، إن المحرم هو الشهر الذي كان أهل الجاهلية فيما مضى يحرمون فيه الظلم والقتال لحرمته، فما عرفت هذه الامة حرمة شهرها ولا حرمة نبيها (صلى الله عليه وآله)، لقد قتلوا في هذا الشهر ذريته، وسبوا نساءه، وانتهبوا ثقله، فلا غفر الله لهم ذلك أبدا. يا بن شبيب، إن كنت باكيا لشئ، فابك للحسين بن علي بن أبي طالب (عليه السلام)، فإنه ذبح كما يذبح الكبش، وقتل معه من أهل بيته ثمانية عشر رجلا ما لهم في الارض شبيه، ولقد بكت السماوات السبع والارضون لقتله، ولقد نزل إلى الارض من الملائكة أربعة آلاف لنصره فوجدوه قد قتل، فهم عند قبره شعث قبر إلى أن يقوم القائم، فيكونون من أنصاره، وشعارهم: يا لثارات الحسين. يا بن شبيب، لقد حدثني أبي، عن أبيه، عن جده (عليه السلام): أنه لما قتل جدي الحسين (صلوات الله عليه)، مطرت السماء دما وترابا أحمر. يا بن شبيب، إن بكيت على الحسين (عليه السلام) حتى تصير دموعك على خديك غفر الله لك كل ذنب أذنبته، صغيرا كان أو كبيرا، قليلا كان أو كثيرا. يا بن شبيب، إن سرك أن تلقى الله عز وجل ولا ذنب عليك، فزر الحسين (عليه السلام). يا بن شبيب، إن سرك أن تسكن الغرف المبنية في الجنة مع النبي وآله (صلوات الله عليهم)، فالعن قتلة الحسين. يا بن شبيب، إن سرك أن يكون لك من الثواب مثل ما لمن استشهد مع الحسين (عليه السلام) فقل متى ما ذكرته: يا ليتني كنت معهم فأفوز فوزا عظيما. يا بن شبيب، إن سرك أن تكون معنا في الدرجاب العلى من الجنان، فاحزن لحزننا وافرح لفرحنا، وعليك بولايتنا، فلو أن رجلا تولى حجرا لحشره الله معه يوم القيامة (1). 5 – Muhammad b. `Ali Majiluyeh رحمه اللّه said: `Ali b. Ibrahim narrated to us from his father from al Rayyan b. Shabib. He said: I came into the presence of al Rida عليه السلام on the first day of Muharram. He said to me: O son of Shabib! Are you fasting? I said: No. So he said: Verily this day is the day on which Zakariyya عليه السلام called upon his Lord عز وجل. He said: My Lord! Grant me good offspring from Thee; surely Thou art the Hearer of the prayer [sural al-Ali `Imran, 3:38]. So Allah answered him and ordered the angels to call out to Zakariyya while he was standing in the mihrab (the prayer-niche), that: Verily Allah gives you the glad-tidings of Yahya [surat al-Ali `Imran, 3:39]. Whoever fasts this day and then calls out to Allah عز وجل, Allah will respond to him like He responded to Zakariyya عليه السلام. Then he said: O son of Shabib! Muharram is the month in which the people of the Jahiliyyah from the past would prohibit oppression and fighting due to its sanctity but this ummah did not recognise the sanctity of its month nor the sanctity of its Prophet صلى اللّه عليه وآله. They killed his offspring in this month and captured his women and plundered his burdens (provisions). So Allah will not forgive them that, ever. O son of Shabib! If you were to cry over anything, then cry over Husain b. `Ali b. Abi Talib عليه السلام, for he was slaughtered like the ram is slaughtered. And eighteen men from the people of his house, the like of whom are not to be found on the earth, were murdered with him. The seven heavens and the earths wailed over his killing. Four thousand of the angels descended toward the earth but they found that he had been murdered. So they shall remain dishevelled, dusty till the Qa’im rises; then they will be from his helpers. And their slogan is: Vengeance for the blood of Husain! O son of Shabib! My father narrated to me from his father from his grandfather عليهم السلام: Verily when my grandfather, Husain صلوات اللّه عليه was killed, the sky rained down blood and red dust. O son of Shabib! If you wept over Husain عليه السلام to the extent that your tears came onto your cheeks, Allah will forgive all of your sins which you have committed, minor or major, little or excessive. O son of Shabib! If you take pleasure in meeting Allah عز وجل while there is no sin over you, then visit Husain عليه السلام. O son of Shabib! If you take pleasure in residing in the erected chamber in Jannah along with the Prophet and his progeny صلوات اللّه عليهم, then curse the murderer of Husain. O son of Shabib! If you take pleasure in having a like of the reward of the one who was martyred with Husain عليه السلام, then whenever you mention him, say: How I wish I was with them! I would have attained a great victory! O son of Shabib! If you take pleasure in being with us in the highest stages of the Gardens, then grieve over our sorrow and be happy in our happiness. And you must keep to our wilayah, for verily, were a man to befriend a stone, Allah will raise him with it on the Day of Resurrection. http://www.tashayyu....eventh-assembly --------------------------------- 10 - على بن إبراهيم، عن أبيه، عن ابن أبي عمير، عن أبي أيوب الخزاز، عن محمد بن مسلم قال: سمعت أبا عبدالله (عليه السلام) يقول: إن بلغكم عن صاحب هذا الامر غيبة فلا تنكروها. `Ali b. Ibrahim, from his father, from Ibn Abi `Ameer, from Abi Ayyub al-Khazaaz, from Muhammad b. Muslim. He said: I heard Abu `Abdillah (as) saying: If you hear that the Master of this Affair has occulted, then don’t deny it. ------------------------------------------ 15 - عده من أصحابنا، عن أحمد بن محمد، عن علي بن الحكم، عن أبي أيوب الخزاز، عن محمد بن مسلم قال: سمعت أبا عبدالله (عليه السلام) يقول: إن بلغكم من عن صاحبكم غيبة فلا تنكروها. From a number of our companions, from Ahmed b. Muhammad, from `Ali b. al-Hakam, from Abu Ayyub al-Khazaaz, from Muhammad b. Muslim. He said: I hear Abu Abdillah (as) say: If you hear that your Master has occulted, don’t reject it. --------------------------------------- 19 - محمد بن يحيى، عن محمد بن الحسين، عن ابن محبوب، عن إسحاق بن عمار قال: قال أبوعبدالله (عليه السلام): للقائم غيبتان: إحداهما قصيرة والاخرى طويلة، الغيبة الاولى لا يعلم بمكانه فيها إلا خاصة شيعته، والاخرى لا يعلم بمكانه فيها إلا خاصة مواليه. Muhammed ibn Yahya, from Muhammed ibn al-Husayn, from ibn Mahbub, from Ishaq ibn ‘Ammar who said: Abu Abdillah ( “al-Qa’im has two occultations (ghaybataan): the first will be short, and the second will be long. In the first occultation, none will know his whereabouts except for his devoted Shi’ah, and in the other [occultation] none will know his whereabouts except for his devoted mawali ------------------------------------ 3 - عدة من أصحابنا، عن جعفر بن محمد، عن ابن فضال، عن الريان بن الصلت قال: سمعت أبا الحسن الرضا (عليه السلام) يقول - وسئل عن القائم - فقال: لا يرى جسمه، ولا يسمى اسمه. A number of our people has narrated from Ja'far ibn Muhammad from ibn Faddal from al- Rayyan ibn as-Salt who has said the following. "I heard abu al-Hassan al-Rida (a.s.) say, when asked al-Qa’im, ‘He will not be seen physically nor his very name will particularly be mentioned." ---------------------------------------- أخبرنا أحمد بن محمد بن سعيد ابن عقدة قال حدثنا محمد بن المفضل بن قيس بن رمانة الأشعري و سعدان بن إسحاق بن سعيد و أحمد بن الحسين بن عبد الملك و محمد بن الحسن القطواني قالوا جميعا حدثنا الحسن بن محبوب الزراد عن هشام بن سالم عن يزيد الكناسي قال سمعت أبا جعفر محمد بن علي الباقر ع يقول إن صاحب هذا الأمر فيه شبه من يوسف ابن أمة سوداء يصلح الله عز و جل له أمره في ليلة واحدة From Yazeed al-Kunaasee said, I heard Abaa Ja`far Muhammad bin `Alee al-Baaqir (عليه السلام), he said: “Verily, the master of this affair (i.e. al-Qaa’im) in him is resemblance of Yoosuf (عليه السلام), he is the son of a black bondswoman (female slave), and Allaah (عَزَّ وَ جَلَّ) will reform his affair in one night” -------------------------------------- 118 – وأخبرني جماعة، عن أبي جعفر محمد بن سفيان البزوفري، عن أحمد بن إدريس، عن علي بن محمد بن قتيبة، عن الفضل بن الشاذان، عن عبد الرحمن بن أبي نجران، عن صفوان بن يحيى، عن أبي أيوب (4)، عن أبي بصير قال: قال أبو عبد الله عليه السلام: إن بلغكم عن صاحبكم غيبة فلا تنكروها (1). And a group has reported to me from Abu Ja`far Muhammad b. Sufyan al-Bazufari from Ahmad b. Idris from `Ali b. Muhammad b. Qutayba from al-Fadl b. Shadhan from `Abd ar-Rahman b. Abi Najran from Safwan b. Yahya from Abu Ayyub from Abu Basir. He said: Abu `Abdillah (as) said: If there reaches you (news of an) occultation from your master, then do not deny it. ------------------------------------ وروى أبو بصير، عن أبي جعفر عليه السلام قال: في القائم شبه من يوسف قلت: وما هو ؟ قال: الحيرة والغيبة And Abu Basir narrated from Abu Ja`far (as). He said: In the Qa’im there is a likeness to Yusuf. I said: And what is it? He said: The confusion and the occultation. .----------------------------------- و قد أخبرنا أحمد بن إسحاق أبو علي عن أبي الحسن ع قال سألته فقلت له لمن أعامل و عمن آخذ و قول من أقبل فقال له العمري ثقتي فما أدى إليك فعني يؤدي و ما قال لك فعني يقول فاسمع له و أطع فإنه الثقة المأمون قال و أخبرني أبو علي أنه سأل أبا محمد الحسن بن علي عن مثل ذلك فقال له العمري و ابنه ثقتان فما أديا إليك فعني يؤديان و ما قالا لك فعني يقولان فاسمع لهما و أطعهما فإنهما الثقتان المأمونان فهذا قول إمام و أخبرني أبو علي أنه سأل أبا محمد الحسن بن علي عن مثل ذلك فقال له العمري و ابنه ثقتان فما أديا إليك فعني يؤديان و ما قالا لك فعني يقولان فاسمع لهما و أطعهما فإنهما الثقتان المأمونان فهذا قول إمامين قد مضيا فيك Abu Ali Ahmad ibn Ishaq has inarrated to me from abu al-Hassan (a.s.) who has said that he asked the Imam (a.s.), "With who should I deal and ask questions about my faith and religion and whose words should I accept (after you)?" The Imam (a.s.) said to him, "Al-‘Amri is trustworthy to me. Whatever he will deliver to you is from me. From me he delivers. Whatever he would say is from me, from me he saays it. Listen to him and obey him because he is reliable and trustworthy. Abu Ali has said to me that he asked abu Muhammad (a.s.) a similar question and he said to him, "Al-‘Amri and his son are trustworthy people. Whatever they would deliver to you is from me from they deliver. Whatevet they say to you from they say it. Listen to them and obey them because they are trustworthy and reliable people. These are the words of the Imams spoken about you… ------------------------------------- وعنه، عن محمد بن عيسى، عن محمد بن الفضيل، عن ابي حمزة قال: قلت لابي عبدالله عليه السلام: تبقي الارض بغير إمام؟ قال: لو بقيت الارض بغير إمام، لساخت. 12 – And from him from Muhammad b. `Isa from Muhammad b. Fudayl from Abu Hamza. He said: I said to Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام: Does the Earth remain without an Imam? He said: Were the Earth to remain without an Imam, it would be sink. http://www.tashayyu....bsira/chapter-2 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Most of the ahadith narrated above are saheeh and muwathaq by strict rijali standards. There's no point in saying that there is "no proof" for the existence of Imam al-Qa'im (as); we have thousands of ahadith speaking about him (before his birth, during his early childhood, during his minor ghayba, and what is expected when he returns). Moreover, there are almost as many ahadith which say that an Imam will remain on earth until the Day of Judgment. In fact, Sahih Muslim has the same hadith - that the Caliphate will remain on earth even if there were only two people left! Where's the Caliph now? You are forced to either say that this hadith is false, or give a new interpretation to the word Caliph; one that your Sunni predecessors probably would have disagreed with. The Imams (as) told us about his ghayba in detail, and told us who/what to trust when it occurs. But of course, you won't believe anything coming out of our books, because to you, al-Qa'im (as) doesn't exist, and somehow the thousands of ahadith that deal with him are simply all fabrications with 0 truth to them, which to me, is absolutely ridiculous. You have ONE hadith which says Dajjal is chained up on an island, and because of that, you believe in his lively existence. And yet, all these ahadith of al-Qa'im aren't enough for you. Even if we had his photograph and signature, you'd probably still be in disbelief.2 points -
You are all like a cancer wherever you go. Look how lightly you speak of punishing collaborators in Lebanon as if Lebanon was yours for the taking. Why didn't you just go into Israel and attack instead of hiding behind the Lebanese civilians like a bunch of cowards? THIS makes you no better than the Israelis and that is why everyone hates you. Now go strap a bomb to your chest and detonate because you are wasting your time here.2 points
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Oh yeah, because it's so brave to shoot 9 children on a school bus. Or to storm an elementary school and take 100 children hostage. Or to attack a bus and shoot 13 children. Yeah, that's real resistance all right. All you stupid pathetic pieces of **** can do is blow up 8 year olds, and then you want to go around bragging about how tough you are for killing children? You think that's "fighting effectiveness"? You think that's "resistance"? And you think killing elementary school kids -- because that's all you can do, because every single time you've fought the enemy in a war, you've FAILED -- means you can compare yourselves to HezzbAllah, a group that defeats heavily armed enemy soldiers in the field of battle? You're one sick puppy, you know that? The more I hear from vicious, hateful Palestinian losers like you, the less I care when I hear about a few of your fighters getting killed in an enemy airstrike. Hezb0llah would not lower itself to using the tactics that you brag about. And people like you aren't the "brothers" of any self-respecting Shia, you Saddam-loving lowlife. People like you are a waste of oxygen. You have no honor.2 points
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Member Post Appreciation Thread
Ismahan007 and one other reacted to Aabiss_Shakari for a topic
I appreciate the posts of all the regular posters. Naming some of them will depreciate others. Mashallah some of them are very much knowledgeable.2 points -
Akbhari? Usooli? Akhooli? Usoolbari?
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To the original question "Akbhari? Usooli? Akhooli? Usoolbari?" Simple answer: Imami. Leave these other labels behind.2 points -
It's curious how people who never have any intention of giving a penny in khums are the first to come up with this sort of material. There are plenty of causes authorised by Ayat. Sistani that you can visit, whose audited records you can see, whose functions you can attend if you wish to be sure that your khums money is going where it is intended.2 points
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Akbhari? Usooli? Akhooli? Usoolbari?
Haydar Husayn and one other reacted to Ya Aba 3abdillah for a topic
Mashaa'Allah. Man, just imagine if we all had that level of love what it'd be like. We'd be a toothless Ummah mashaa'Allah.2 points -
Co Wife Question
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Seriously whats the point of marraige if you men can do whatever you like. Its like a woman is just an object that you can replace when ever you want. She has no opinion or anything ...1 point -
Defining Innovation In Religion (bida)
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(salam) (bismillah) No, this is an incorrect assumption. We have numerous aHaadeeth where our Prophet (pbuh) started his speeches saying "the worst of affairs are those that are innovated, and every bid`ah is astray and everything astray is in the fire" Taken from al-Mufeed's al-Amaali: (the Prophet (pbuh) got on the minbar and said) إِنَّ أَفْضَلَ الْهَدْيِ هَدْيُ مُحَمَّدٍ وَ خَيْرَ الْحَدِيثِ كِتَابُ اللَّهِ وَ شَرَّ الْأُمُورِ مُحْدَثَاتُهَا أَلَا وَ كُلُّ بِدْعَةٍ ضَلَالَةٌ أَلَا وَ كُلُّ ضَلَالَةٍ فَفِي النَّارِ "Verily! The best guidance is the guidance of Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم), and the best hadeeth is the Book of Allaah, and the worst of affairs is what is innovated, and every bid`ah is astray and everything astray is in the fire” Also, we have hadeeth from our 6th Imaam, that says the Prophet (pbuh) discussed about the people of bid`ah. Click here: http://www.revivingalislam.com/2010/12/exposing-bidah-reward-for-doing-so.html We also have hadeeth from Imaam `Alee (as) saying that "no one establishes a bid`ah without abandoning a sunnah". Click here: http://www.revivingalislam.com/2010/12/our-imaams-attitude-towards-bidah.html As you can see, this is exactly inline with the hadeeth I posted earlier. So the term bid`ah has been used by our Prophet (pbuh) and Imaam `Alee (as). (salam)1 point -
Egypt Without Luxor
lalala123 reacted to Shia_Debater for a topic
You Hate Wahabbis .. You Hate intense heat .. Good thing your on the right path :P and even better you get to see your two most hated things joined together for eternity :D1 point -
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What Is Respect?
Hameedeh reacted to kim.tinkerbell for a topic
Am not saying anyting about the question. I genuinely thought it was oky to bow down . I think its about ur intentions. Thanks for letting me know that it can be classifed as shirk.1 point -
Come on you horny young men try to find something new about this so it will be easier to relieve your frustration. If only sexually active members were allowed to respond there would be no response at all. Did you know there is a registry for people who want to engage in mutah online fellas but don't rush there because it seems no women want to register.1 point
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Defining Innovation In Religion (bida)
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الحسين بن محمد الاشعري، عن معلى بن محمد، عن الحسن بن علي الوشاء، و عدة من أصحابنا، عن أحمد بن محمد، عن ابن فضال جميعا، عن عاصم بن حميد، عن محمد ابن مسلم، عن أبي جعفر (عليه السلام) قال: خطب أمير المؤمنين (عليه السلام) الناس فقال: أيها الناس إنما بدء وقوع الفتن أهواء تتبع، وأحكام تبتدع، يخالف فيها كتاب الله، يتولى فيها رجال رجالا، فلو أن الباطل خلص لم يخف على ذي حجى، ولو أن الحق خلص لم يكن اختلاف ولكن يؤخذ من هذا ضغث ومن هذا ضغث فيمزجان فيجيئان معا فهنالك استحوذ الشيطان على أوليائه ونجا الذين سبقت لهم من الله الحسنى. al-Husayn bin Muhammad al-Ash'ariy from Mualla bin Muhammad from al-Hasan bin Ali al-Washa'a AND a number of our companions from Ahmad bin Muhammad from (al-Hasan bin Ali) ibn Fadhal all together from A'asim bin Humayd from Muhammad bin Muslim from Abi Ja'far عليه السلام who said: the commander of the faithful عليه السلام gave a speech (Khutbah) - to the people, (and) he said (in it): O people, the occuring of seditions (Fitan) has started - desires are being followed, and rulings (Ahkam) are being innovated which are against the book of Allah, authority being given in it from a man to another, so if the falsehood (Batil) was clear (separate) - it could not have gone unnoticed (hidden) from the one possesing argument (cognition), and if the truth (Haqq) was clear (separate) - differences would not have arisen, but it is taken from this (falsehood) a clutching of hay (chaff) and from that (truth) also and mixed together and then they come with it (introduce it) so this is where Satan overcomes (rises) above his followers and only those are saved whom Allah had preceded with in (giving) mercy. (Sahih) From these two Hadith we understand that: 1. A Bid'ah by its definition involves forsaking the Sunnah or when a Bid'ah is enacted a Sunnah has been destoyed. 2. Bid'ah starts due to people's desires and causes seditions in the community. 3. Bid'ah involves formulation of Ahkam that are contrary to the Kitab of Allah. 4. Bid'ah is always camouflaged as a good thing (since as the Imam says it is mixing of Truth and Falsehood) and it is presented as an original. 5. Only those can escape the Bid'ah who have been given mercy.1 point -
What Is Respect?
Hameedeh reacted to Shia_Debater for a topic
(salam) I think by the meaning above Seyed Sistani (ha) is saying that its better (ihtiyat) to not bow down from the waist, regardless of how far you are bowing. (wasalam)1 point -
Akbhari? Usooli? Akhooli? Usoolbari?
Marbles reacted to The Green Knight for a topic
All men are equal in the eyes of God. EXCEPT those who stand out in taqwa. All men are at a loss. EXCEPT those who (actually) believe, do good righteous deeds, and adhere to Haqq and adhere to patience. We obey God, we obey the holy Prophet (pbuh) and the Ool-il-'amr (as). What is left to argue then? Those with a rotten niyyah inside their hearts should worry. We are Shia of Muhammad wa aal-e-Muhammad (pbuh). Surely, those who create fitna are the accursed ones. Identify them and remember your enemies and give them no respite.1 point -
Q For Those That Believe The Imams Are All Hearing
Socrates reacted to Haydar Husayn for a topic
Socrates, I think I've already addressed these points in this thread. Complete knowledge of the Quran (and previous Books) does not imply the level of knowledge that is being claimed here. As for the Ahlulbayt (as) being witnesses over us, that is true, but my understanding is that the witness is the Imam of the time, not that every Imam is a witness for every age. Imam Mahdi (as), who is still present on earth, is not in the same category as the others we are discussing. In addition, our deeds are said to be presented to the Imam (as), which isn't the same as him seeing them directly, and to be honest we have no idea in what form or to what extent they are presented. You still have no really directly responded to my questions by the way. You quote a hadith saying that the Imams know everything until the day of judgement, while macisaac posted one that said they don't. I wonder which is more likely to have been fabricated? In any case, you can't just pick out one hadith and then claim it proves your point. I know you don't worship rijal and all that so there is no point going down that road, but surely you see that with this methodology you can prove anything, even that Imam Jafar (as) respected Abu Bakr. We need to ask ourselves which hadith fits in better with the vast majority of the others, and most importantly with the Quran. To me there is no doubt which position that is. aladdin, you obviously don't know that much about the Seerah of the Prophet (pbuh), either from the Shia or Sunni perspective. I can't even be bothered to correct all your misunderstandings and baseless assumptions, since there is no standard of proof you will accept anyway (and I wouldn't want to be accused yet again of being 'argumentative'). Maybe someone else will do it instead.1 point -
LOL Mr Higgins i have one question for you ! Answer me this honestly Why didnt Saddam Invade Israel ? Why did he invade another MUSLIM country instead ? Who gained most from Saddams actions ? it sure as hell wasnt Saddam or the PLO lol As for the PLO and South Lebanon, why were they in the Jnoob to start with ? mate the PLO had more weapons back then , then Hezbollah do now, and they disintergrated like the cowards they are. They opted to deal drugs, kill each other, and set up check points and cause havoc !!! Imad Mughniya, big whoop, do you want a cookie or something ? havent you heard of the saying, "i dont want to be your friend, but i dont want to be your enemy either" ? this is business buddy and you guys suck at it lol Saddam was found in a hole under ground, like the rat he was, and was hung on live TV , by the very same masters he served so loyally lol... Your a fool bro seriously P.S if thats how you deal with us in lebanon, then no wonder why you guys got slaughtered ! and one more note, remember alot of the people who died in sabra and chatilla were shia, so get over it the only reason there was a NAKBA is because you cowards ran off... THe difference between the Jnoobis and the PLO is we didnt leave our villages, after 20 years of occupation, then cry foul play when your occupiers had free unihabitated land ! Stop blaming the Lebanese and the Arabs and whoever else you want to point the finger at, listen to a little Michael Jackson, and start with the Man In the Mirror, because you guys only have YOURSELVES to blame ! Now go suck up to the UN like the slaves you are, and ask the Germans how far that got them, when they sucked up to the League of Nations prior WW2 !!! You guys are a joke, and your 2 favourite leaders are DEAD lol and they died by the hands of their MASTERS, the Americans and Israelis !!! Pathetic, truely P.S a realll solider is not a wimp to wear ear muffs when firing an RPG lol1 point
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12 Imams Miracle-must See
fightingsoul001 reacted to Inglip for a topic
يزيد بن معاوية ي ز ي د ب ن م ع ا و ي ة = 12 a miracle indeed أبو بكر الصديق أ ب و ب ك ر ا ل ص د ي ق = 121 point -
Defining Innovation In Religion (bida)
TheIslamHistory reacted to Nader Zaveri for a topic
(salam) (bismillah) The best definition I have seen is from a hadeeth that has thiqaat (pl. of thiqah) narrators, but it is marfoo` which makes the hadeeth weak. This hadeeth goes in line with the definitions I have given from our scholars. و بهذا الإسناد عن أحمد بن أبي عبد الله عن عبد الله بن محمد الحجال عن عاصم بن حميد رفعه قال جاء رجل إلى أمير المؤمنين ع فقال أخبرني عن السنة و البدعة و عن الجماعة و عن الفرقة فقال أمير المؤمنين ع السنة ما سن رسول الله ص و البدعة ما أحدث من بعده و الجماعة أهل الحق و إن كانوا قليلا و الفرقة أهل الباطل و إن كانوا كثيرا From `Aasim bin Humayd, in a marfoo` manner said, that a man came to Ameer al-Mu’mineen (عليه السلام), and he said: “Inform me about sunnah, bid`ah, and about al-jamaa`ah, and about al-firqah.” So Ameer al-Mu’mineen (عليه السلام) said: “al-Sunnah is whatever the Messenger of Allaah (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) did, al-bid`ah is whatever has been innovated after him (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم), al-jamaa`ah are the people of truth, even if they are little, and al-firqah are the people of falsehood even if they are a lot” Source: al-Sadooq, Ma`aani al-Akhbaar (Qum: Inshārāt Islāmī, 1361), pg. 154 - 155, hadeeth # 3 One of the best definitions that I have seen of the word bid`ah, is by our classical scholar Shareef al-MurtaDa (d. 438AH). He wrote in his Risaa'il al-Shareef al-MurtaDa: البدعة: زيادة في الدين، أو نقصان منه من إسناد إلى الدين. Bid`ah: (anything) increased (added) in the religion, or shortened (subtracted) from it from the source of the religion Source: al-Murtada, Risaa'il al-Shareef al-MurtaDa (Qum: Daar al-Qur'aan al-Kareem, 1405 AH), vol. 2, pg. 264 Another good definition I have seen is from al-Turayhi (d. 1086 AH), author of the famous dictionary Majma` al-BaHrayn: الحدث في الدين، و ما ليس له أصل في كتاب و لا سنة، و إنما سميت بدعة لأن قائلها ابتدعها هو نفسه "It is an invention in the religion, which is from not from principle books or (from) the sunnah, and it is named bid`ah, because the caller innovates it from himself" Source: al-Turayhi, Majma` al-BaHrayn (Tehran: Maktabah al-MurtaDawwi, 3rd ed., 1416 AH), vol. 4, pg. 298 - 299 (salam)1 point -
I get the impression that Ibn Abbas applied the view of the the high religious status of the Ahl-e-Bayt to ALL the bani Hashim. His sons also had the same view. He was loyal to Ali (as) because Ali (as) was chief of the Ban Hashim / Ahl-e-Bayt but he also considered himself of a very high status since he was also of the prophet's (pbuh) tribe.1 point
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(bismillah) (salam) I"m Iranian of Armenian decent. Long Live The Islamic Republic of IRAN. N1 point
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Anyone Here Iranian ?
alimohamad40 reacted to Reshad for a topic
Iranian is Iranian, weather Azeri, Persian,Kurdish, or Turkmen Yes i agree with you, Iran is not even close to being perfect , but in all fairness this kind of hatred is present in all of the Muslim world, if it werent, we wouldnt be in such a sad state as we are now. if you dont believe me just look at how Hazaras are being treated in Afghanistan1 point -
I'm going too. Pretty excited to be going. Definitely check out books (available online) by Dr Ali Shariati. Also, the first time i went, i realised how much i didn't know about the people who's graves I was visiting at Jannat-ul-baqi, interesting stuff about the Prophets mosque, history of the Kaaba etc, all of which would have added loads to my experience the first time round. Read up on all of this, including biographies. Heres some other things which might be helpful. Also particular things to look out for: 1. In the prophets mosque, towards the back, there is an area when you look up, you'll see all the names of the 12 imams engraved on the ceiling. You'll also notice that the name of Imam Mahdi (as) is also there, and how even though it is still readable, the Wahabi ruling folk have tried to s[Edited Out]e it / chisel it out. 2. The most amazing experience in Medina is when, for one time in the year only, the Iranian's are allowed to recite Dua Kumayl outside Jannat al Baqi. This is a humungous task, where more than half of the prophets mosque is quardened off (so that no one gets 'influenced' by the shia) and is attended by thousands of Shia's on hajj. It is held on a Thursday (I believe this year it will be october 27th). Make sure you take a pair of trousers and a shirt and wear this - particularly if you are not Iranian. Anyone who doesn't look iranian, regardless of if they are a shia, will not be allowed in. 3. In Makkah, in the prophets mosque, as you are looking at his (saw) shrine, exit on the door to your right. Most people do. As you walk out, the adjacent door to the left is Bab-al-Jibraeel. This has now had a shoe rack placed in front of it. Bab-al-Jibraeel was where Hazrat Jibrael (as) would enter the Prophets mosque, go through Janaab-e-Fatima(as) and Hazrat Ali (as) house into the Prophets quarters. 4. Janant-al-Baqi is only open to enter at very limited times. You're best chance of going is straight after Fajr Salaat. There is quite a rush, so be careful, but inshallah you'll get in. There are Brothers from the wahabi community hired to stand on podiums / walls to prevent people from reciting dua's / ziarats. You will most likely be sent out of the graveyard if caught doing so, and have your books etc confiscated. The Graveyard is big... go find a quieter place within the yard to recite your duas. Alternatively.. see point 5. 5. Assume you are standing in front of the stairs leading up to Jannat -al-baqi. Turn to your left and walk around the corner to the left hand side of the graveyard boundary. That entrance is usually open and has less rush. 6. You must attend the top floor of the Holy Kaba mosque on Thursday night. You'll find many groups reciting Dua Kumayl again. 7. Around 11pm at night is the best time to go to the prophets mosque in Medina. (least rush) 8. Outside the prophets mosque, stand directly in front of the Green Dome, signifying where the prophet is buried. To your right should be Janat-al-Baqi. Now, directly behind you (sort of) you'll see the Saudi court of Law in the distance. This is where the Prophet's horse stopped and the prophet attended dinner at a sahaba's house. It was from there that the prophet settled base where you are standing right now. And a couple of more practical tips... 1. The very very very first thing you should do on your very first trip to the Kaaba Mosque in Makkah is set a meeting point. You or someone from your group WILL at some point get lost. Set a meeting point in case this happens - the number of people there are immense. 2. I'm not sure if your a lady or a gent, but some things in tawaaf you need to be aware of. It is extremely common for money belts / pouches to be stolen during tawaaf. More concerningly, whilst the majority are doing tawaaf for the sake of Allah, others are there to grope / touch up women (I apologise if I come across vulgar). Please be careful and protect your ladies. 3. Again, i don't mean to promote fear, but this happened to a group we got talking to last year. Three people from that group, 2 men one lady decided to do an Umrah after their hajj. They jumped in a taxi to go wear their ehrams, when the taxi broke down. the taxi driver asked the two men to push the taxi. As they did, the taxi driver drove off with the woman. We don't know if she was found or not. Please be vigilant. It's a shame that people would do such a thing. 4. Eat little to nothing (but stay healthy) at least three days before you leave for arafat. Seriously, the last thing you want to do in the three days of hajj is going to one of the toilets in arafat or Muzdhalifah or even Mina. I cannot begin to describe how unbelievably disgusting they are... 5. The walk from Muzdhalifah to Minna is a long one - and extremely stressful. Try and enjoy it, but make sure you take plenty of water for yourself and for others. Last year, it was unfortunate that we passed people who had passed away on this trip. 6. Keep a journal. Gradually, the memories of my first hajj are fading which is such a massive shame. I am actually very very sad that I will no longer ever get that same feeling as I did the first time I saw the Kaaba (and other sites). That feeling surely only comes the once. 7. You'll get tiered - very tiered. But please make the effort to spend as much time as you can at the mosques both in medina and makkah. As your on the plane on the way back, you'll wish you had. 8. Travel light, Travel light Travel light. can't emphasise that enough. 9. Be prepared for the following things to potentially be confiscated: Any non wahabi books (i.e. shia books, dua's, ziarats etc), camera's, camera phones. 10. The toilets in the Kaaba grounds are quite a walk away, located under the Hilton Towers. Best bet is to go before you actually go into the Kaaba Mosque. The amount of people there means that leaving the Kaaba Mosque often takes as long as tawaaf itself! 10. If you're a smoker, you won't find cigarettes being sold anywhere. It's not officially allowed. Buy at Duty free before you get there. 11. Celebrate the end of your hajj with a KFC - located directly outside the Kaaba. If you buy any tasbeeh's as gifts, count the beads before you buy. They're hardly ever right. Be very careful of dodgy shopkeepers - many will try to short change you as much as possible.1 point
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Thanks again, Hameedeh ^_^ May Allah bless you and all the people you love1 point
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This promise is there several times in the Quran for the ones who reach heaven. "Neither will they fear, nor will they grieve." The Quran also says [Quran 50:35] There will be for them therein all that they wish,- and more besides in Our Presence. Here read this http://www.al-islam.org/the-hereafter/4.htm#1551 point
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Egypt Without Luxor
Haji 2003 reacted to Shia_Debater for a topic
Cairo Pilgrimage sites Masjid Ra's al-Husayn : According to a belief, the head of Imam Husayn, peace be upon him, was buried here. Sit Zainab : According to some, Zainab, the sister of Imam Husayn and daughter of Imam Ali, peace be upon them, is buried here and not in Damascus. Grave of Malik al-Ashtar [r] : Standard-bearer and close companion of Imam Ali [a]. He was appointed by Imam Ali [a] as the governor or Egypt but was poisoned by Muawiya (la) on his way there. Source : http://www.al-islam.org/ziyarat/egypt.htm1 point -
You know, if every time Shia were attacked and in response one of these terrorism supporters in power like Rana Sanaullah was killed, violence against Shias would decline pretty quick. Its been done before. It was the policy of Hasan ibn Sabah and the assassins. Every time the Nizari Ismailis were attacked or threatened, they didn't bother with the small fry, they killed a king or prince in response and soon enough they were left alone and treated with extreme caution. More than the mullahs in the mosques, these Rana Sanaullah and Shahbaz Sharif type people are responsible for the attacks on Shias.1 point
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That because the Imam is in occulation and until he reveals himself again we are left to our own devices. As best as we can we have to act according to the teaching of the Imams.1 point
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Member Post Appreciation Thread
Ismahan007 reacted to Blissful for a topic
Shia_Debater: Cheeriest guy on SC. Makes you happy every time with his Iranian salaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaams. This guy has more hassanat than anyone on SC. Kamran Syed: Best akhlaaq ever on the forums, especially with sunni-shia issues. Always advocating tolerance. Fiasco & Kadhim: Witty, sarcastic posts that are legendary. Al-Mufeed: Despite his muqassir ways in the chatroom, he's a very knowledgeable guy mashaa'Allah and always has an answer to your questions. Habib e Najjaar: :wub: What can I say? Beautiful posts, beautiful poetry and always has something positive to say. Legio Invicta & Replicant: Their constant wahhabi bashing and bidah full posts are worth the read. Ya Aba 3abdillah: Best admin. We need more like him. baradar_jackson: always enjoy his anti-akhbari rants and deep attachment (dare I say obsession) with the Lebanese. and deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeebo: my cousin in disguise :P witty one he is, but always says it how it should be. more to come, sorry if I've missed anybody out!1 point -
Bollywood Blasphemy
Waiting for HIM reacted to -SeeKeR- for a topic
(salam) Sometimes its almost funny how our acceptability level is increasing exponentially. First of all a haram thing like music and on top of that using ayats and holy people's name and subhanAllah that's termed minor. At least if we cant stop them from producing such stuff, we can show our displeasure at it rather than thinking of it as slander. Lol see now thats what i called unprovoked patriotic attack... :rolleyes:. How does saying bad to one thing make us pro another. You are more than welcome to open a thread on any such issue, i'd be the first to agree!1 point -
Speed Of Light Has Be Beaten!
Kamranistan reacted to Praetorius for a topic
(salam) It is very likely that there must have been some sort of systematic or random error associated with the measurements. Let's take a look at the deviation in time as a percentage. 60 nanoseconds is 2.5% of 2.4 milliseconds. That's a rather small deviation, even in relative terms. In absolute terms, this is way too small. I have plenty of friends who are physics majors and this is what they are speculating, but they could be wrong.1 point -
If You Are Human, Do Not Support The Syrian Regime
satyaban reacted to Wahhabism4All for a topic
What's a "wahabi"? No need to go to a Sunni forum, as they already know about the evil Syrian regime. I'm hear to spread the truth to the Shia members, so that they may think and judge for themselves, rather than whatever Khameini and Nasrallah say regarding Syria.1 point -
Oh My God. This Is Terrible
shiasoldier786 reacted to kadhim for a topic
(Begin tangent) Whoa, whoa. Let's not mix up two vastly different things here. Matam/tatbeer/etc were literally pulled out of the air despite lack of any foundation in the traditions. Whereas with Khomeini and chess, while results of his analysis differed from those of literalist readers of traditions, the results were nevertheless based on an acknowledgement and analysis of the relevant traditions. He didn't ignore the traditions; he convincingly demonstrated they related to a no longer relevant context. He accepted the traditions, but also pointed out the overt connection in those traditions between chess and a gambling context, and observed that this is no longer part of the context of chess as it is normally casually played. Reference to the traditions, acknowledgement of the traditions, and meaningful, thoughtful analysis of them. As opposed to these weird rituals, where the basis is some man-made adrenaline junkie rush rationalized as "expression of love." (End tangent)1 point -
The God-less Beast-men Of Syria
satyaban reacted to Wahhabism4All for a topic
Excellent post, breeze. Nasrallah and Khameini are friends of this God-less man known as Bashar. The UnIslamic Resistence and UnIslamic Republic turned out to be a farce, siding with politics over justice (they betrayed their Shiite faith). The Iranian regime's time is already finished for the region, as Turkey has replaced them.1 point -
I had a penpal a couple of years ago; it felt so quaint, Like i was in Pride and Prejudice or something =D1 point
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Member Post Appreciation Thread
ireallywannaknow reacted to baradar_jackson for a topic
Say whaaaaaaaaaaat? You can't like both the posts of Ya Aba, and the posts of macisaac. It's like having whiskey for iftar.1 point -
I like the magalis of Ayatollah Aqeel ul Gharavi. The centre where he gives them Bab-ul-Murad (or International Islamic Link) when I last asked they were authorised to collect khums. I know the people who run it. Perfectly fine people serving a good cause. Here is another organisation, it is a UK registered charity: http://www.ladyfatemahtrust.org/ And here is their ijaza: http://www.ladyfatemahtrust.org/images/stories/ijaza_online.jpg I have spoken to the management at Ahlulbayt TV, I am personally satisfied in their confidence about collecting khums, even though other people may not be. I see it like this. If the Ayatollahs said that the only way to give khums was to pay it into their bank accounts or those of their representatives, I'd smell a rat. That's the sort of scam the Ismailis and Bohris have going and seems to be a recipe for corruption. OTOH the reason why the institution of khums seems so reasonable to me is that you can <strong>choose</strong> who the money goes to and the recipients can often be people who are relatively unknown to the mar'je themselves. For example this crowd have been building an imambara: </div>http://old.almahdi.org.uk/almahdiproject/khums Now if someone lives in that part of the UK and will be using those services, how can anyone possibly say that the money is being siphoned off? And this is also the reason why I get cheesed off when people have a go at khums. Belief in the system encourages people to pay for things that can help their own local community. Without it a lot of good work just would not get done.1 point
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^^ Who is eating away Imam's (ATF) money? our Marjas, Ayatullah Sistani? Before placing these false allegations (tohmat) go and see how thin Ayatullah Sistani is. Where he sits, what clothes he wears and where he lives. How long will shiachat let these misguided cult of pseudoo-Akhbaris attack our beliefs and abuse our Marjas?1 point
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Akbhari? Usooli? Akhooli? Usoolbari?
Haydar Husayn reacted to Gypsy for a topic
(salam) MDM, You are purposely choosing controversial issues to highlight weakness of Usoolism. But it wont work because neither is WF or Zanjeer at the very core of Shiasm. You wont become less of Akhbari or Usooli if you believe/disbelive in WF or Zanjeer. Why ask Sistani about Zanjeer. Why not ask Akhbaris on the forum about Zanjeer. I am sure that if you ask Macisaac and Nader (the two people who know more about Akhbari approach than anyone else). They will tell you that Zanjeer is not part of Shia Islam. Nader has an article on his blog going through every single hadiths that is supposedly "pro zanjeer". I remember asking Macisaac about Zanjeer. He also don't think there is much evidence to support zanjeer from our books. Maybe you wanna adopt Akhbari approach here. I know that you are confused but like I said, Zanjeer and WF are not really core and central part of Shiasme. And because we do not have clear Quranic verses or hadiths that either support or disapprove these two then you will find a range of opinions and ideas.1 point -
Max Bluemanthal reported on how he's been buddy buddy with a couple of prominent Holocaust deniers. Don't think that matters much, provided he keeps beating the drums for an Iran war. I must say, i truly hate this man. I hate the way he talks, i hate the way he looks, i hate the scotch that he drinks. He is a total douche bag, and it's poetic justice he's dying of cancer.1 point
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