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yesterday i was watching movie on you tube "Al mukhtaar" and in that movie hazrat mukhtaar brings a shia momeen who was his friend to meet his sister for marriage purpose,but that girls violantly denies that momeen proposal just because she was arab and the momeen was an irani,ultimately she marries a fasiik umr ibn aas instead of that momeen.conclusion is those who gives importance to race and colour of skin ends up marrying some munafiq,so better dont deny proposal on the base of skin and race. w.salaam.

Salamun Alaykum. Mashallah, it feels great to be back on shiachat after 3 months :) Its me Mansour. Although I deactivated myself from Shiachat, i visit here once in a while to see what's up. I joined shiachat because I wanted to get something, and since I got what I wanted to get, I deactivated it. Brother Jackson, you can email me: mansourhosseinishiachat(at)gmail(dot)com

(salam) Well I follow the Jaffari school of thought. And I can honestly say I haven't come across any secret hadiths that were given to me upon being born, nor becoming baligh, nor deciding to follow Islam. Infact I think you're just saying what you're hearing from others. We don't follow "supposed Imams (as)" .. your leader Abu Hanifa was taught by our 6th Imam, Imam Jafar Sadiq (as). Also Malik Ibn Anas another one of your leaders was taught by our 6th Imam, Imam Jafir Sadiq (as). The 12 Imams (as) were the most knowledgeable of their time, most pious of their time, most God-Fearing of their time. There is none better than them to be the leader. Go and follow your leader Umar with hes innovations such as "assalatul khayral minal nawm" Carpets weren't even introduced into the Mosque of the Prophet (pbuh) until 300 years after his death and you claim that we are innovating for praying on a turbah/mohr Imam Ali (as) has the most merits written down about him after rasoolAllah (pbuh) Imam Ali (as) was the son in law and the cousin of rasoolAllah (pbuh), who was raised by rasoolAllah (pbuh), who sacrificed his life for rasoolAllah (pbuh), who was like a brother to rasoolAllah (pbuh) Imam Hassan (a.s) and Imam Hussein (a.s) were loved by rasoolAllah pbuh Abu Bakr angered Lady Fatima (a.s) Umar ran away from battle Uthman was hated by the ummah they revolted against him The characteristics of the first 3 caliphs show they aren't fit to be leaders of anything, let alone leading the Ummah. If you believe you are following the sunnah then good luck to you, cos you're gonna need it (wasalam)

Allah s.w.t has blessed all this to us. If all this xtra stuff would not there The human will start thinking that Allah created him but not gave anything to him to survive in this world. He is the almighty the wise the king the holy the merciful the beneficent The high This ayat repeats again and again in sure rehman Which then of the bounties of your lord will you deny (aur tum apne khuda ki kaun kaun si nehmat ko jhutlaoge) And other ayats are Have you considered the fire which you strike Is it you that produce the trees or are we the producers. Have you considered the water which you drink Is it you that send it down from the clouds or are we the sender if we pleased we should have made it salty Why do you not then give thanks. May Allah s.w.t guides all of us to the right path. Wassalam Naara haidery

Thanks i have my answer :D Shukran to everyone that replied :D May Allah (swt) bless you all

(salam) Allah (swt) made everything in pairs. “And We created everything in pairs that perhaps you might take heed.” [sûrah al-Dhâriyât: 49] If men and women didn't have feelings towards each other then no one would have kids .. and if no one had kids then there would be no humans. Unless you then ask the question of Why wouldn't Allah (swt) just create more humans, then we can ask Why didn't Allah (swt) create humans with 3 hands instead of 2, then we can ask Why didn't Allah (swt) make the earth bigger etc.. and the list goes on. Ultimately women and men may love each other, but they should love each other for the sake of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì. They may love their kids but they should love them for the sake of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì. They may love working, but they should love to do that work for the sake of Allah (swt) etc.. (wasalam)

(salam) Watch this video from 3:30 .. The guy says that Imam Ali (as) was about to kill an unbeliever in battle, just before he killed him the unbeliever spat in Imam Ali's (as) face. Imam Ali (as) didn't kill him because it would have been out of his own anger and not for the sake of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì. This is most likely the same reason why he didn't kill those who slammed the door on Bibi Fatimah (as) .. he wouldn't have been doing it for the sake of Allah (swt) .. so he let Allah (swt) deal with them. If I am wrong then someone else please correct me. (wasalam)

Just found this on youtube, 1st time hearing a funny revert story still very touching but usually they just make me cry lol I think he mentioned he changed his name to abu bakr.... Inshallah he is guided to the path of Ahlul Bayt

Refreshing Tea for two: 1. Boil 150ml clean water. 2. Add few shreds of ginger, 1-2 green cardamom crushed and 2 tsp fine sugar, 3. Add tea leaves 3 tsp after 4mins and boil for 90seconds only.,(els it gets black and bitter) 4. Divide and strain equally in two mugs. 5. Boil 200ml rich milk** separately till it foams. 6. Pour into the mugs equally. 7. Add a dollop of fresh cream and serve with love.. **Steaming water wid a dash of lime/mint for those who dont prefer milk/cream.

Salam please my dear sisters i urgently need your doas iam in trouble :( all i can do is pray nothing else. please when your praying remember me in your doas

Honestly I thought about this idea of devil or devils spamming us thoughts and it seems really illogical and silly. When I write something, my thoughts are focused on what I'm writing, there is no spamming of thoughts. When I'm reading, it's concentrated on what I'm reading, I don't get spammed bad thoughts. If the devils can really spam us bad thoughts whenever they want, I would imagine we would be continously be spammed evil thoughts. Instead our thoughts are well structured, if we think of a bad thought, it only comes on occasion, when the situation calls for it. We aren't spammed ideas, our brain is thinking it a well structured way, that doesn't at all show signs of being spammed evil thoughts. Do the devils wait for the perfect moment to spam us thoughts so it appears it doesn't come randomly but is our own thoughts? Why would they do that. If you think about, it's obvious there is no devils spamming us thoughts. It's an illogical to believe that when you analyze how your mind always functions. It's an illogical belief. Our bad thoughts come from own subconscious and for many they don't really get much bad thoughts. If there was devils spamming us thoughts I would imagine would be constantly thinking evil thoughts and struggling against them. But this is not the case.

Let's just forget Umar is even a Muslim for one minute, Look at him as a Worldy ruler. He was really effective, Usman messed up his system though by appointing his own family members and removing people from high ranking posts etc. If He would've died during Umar's reign than things would've gone so much smoother for Imam Ali(a.s) imo. Seriously, what is your problem? :dry:

There is something in this world called Free Choice, many people say free will but free will means whatever you will to happen happens, this isn't the case. I could will my bed to turn into a car .. doesn't mean its gonna happen. When we say Allah (swt) willed for something to happen we aren't saying that Allah (swt) made that thing happen, we are saying that the thing happened and Allah (swt) accepted it to happen. Abu Bakr and co. made the choice to usurp the rights of Imam Ali (as) and Allah (swt) allowed their choice to happen, you cannot say this means Allah (swt) made Abu Bakr and co. usurp the rights, they chose to themselves, Allah (swt) just allowed it to happen.

In all due respect i think people are blowing this up a little to much, I hardly ever see him so it dosnt really matter anyways, but each to there own, Honestly theres no reason to comdemn me for asking a question regarding for my friend to stop being stalkerish. You might as well laugh at this whole thread as a joke, we dont need to make this into a big philosophical deal .whether you intend it or not its making me feel uncomfortable. Its all pointless. Btw, why are you following this topic, there must be something interesting on this thread that you want to discuss or something, we could make a different thread make it for discussion. Sorry for the harsh tone there,

Oh you mean the same university with the breast-feeding fatwa? ^_^

The whole process takes like 5 minutes? yuck!~ LANAT ON TEA BAGSSSS!!!! :mad:

(bismillah) (salam) Not sure about the Farsi video. English voiceover video is uploaded now. Click on the little movie camera icon, then click on the download link here: http://english.khame...d=1523&Itemid=4 You can use the home page http://english.khamenei.ir//index.php and look for the speech called Leader’s remarks at International Conference on Islamic Awakening + Video.

(bismillah) (wasalam) All this extra stuff is yet another sign that Allah SWT is Loving and Merciful. He created us as human beings and Who kept us alive? He did. He made food as a necessary requirement to keep us alive, but it was His love for us that He created food to taste good so that people will want to eat it and stay alive. If food didn't taste good, nobody would eat it. He created marriage so that husbands and wives could live together and He blessed some of them with children. However He created laws to keep us safe and limit our activities to moderation. He said don't look at anyone else and guard your private parts from all except your spouse. For those who cannot provide everything necessary for a permanent marriage, Allah created mutah. What a loving God we have, Who created everything necessary for us. He loves us for sure. The more we communicate with Him in prayer and du'aa, the more He blesses us, inshaAllah. Holy Qur'an 2:165 “.....and those who believe are stronger in love for Allah.”

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/234941263-how-exactly-was-bibi-fatima-as-killed/ Post number 2 may help you, inshaAllah.

lol well thanks for the compliments... :D...altho don't let any professional chef hear it, they are gonna kill you... :P . No she didn't post that recipe there...but i am sure she will give it to you soon inshaAllah... :)

So your response to the devil bringing us 'bad' thoughts is that 'there is an unknown area of the psyche that no one can ever explain or understand that brings in bad thoughts'?

You know what's funny, is when Shias say whatever God wants takes place when discussing 33:33...all of of a sudden when it comes to what takes place, they don't want to say that is what God wanted... all of a sudden God can want something to take place and it not happen.... This is what you call a double standard.

Really? O_O Can I see one of them?

The question that should be added here is, are peoples "bad" thoughts really even bad to begin with? Something like skipping prayer time i think is the least bad of thoughts that people may or may not have. Truly bad thoughts, we hold with reason as you said. Its necissary though to recognize the bad thoughts, otherwise we wouldnt realize how to act properly. This is the natural way. If i see fire, im going to think about how hot it is and i may even go further to think about touching it or throwing it on someone. However, all of these thoughts are just recognition of what it is, and its what allows us to consider how we live. No demons are necessary for thought of good and bad options in situations, and it has nothing to do with with youre a believer or not. Everyone has them because thats how the brain works. Not only that but, quite often the "bad" thoughts really arent even that bad to begin with. For example, when a guy sees a beautiful women and he thinks to himself, wow, shes really attractive, i wouldnt mind having that. Theres nothing satanic about this. Its just a demonstration that people are interested in sex, which again is the natural order of things. If you think about wanting to eat all of someone elses food, the thought comes from our interest in eating for our survival, theres nothing unnatural about certain degrees of greed. Theres nothing evil about having bits of greed or jealousy, in reality we need these things in moderation to survive. If a womens husband goes to another women. And the women becomes angry and jealous...theres nothing evil about it, no demons necessary. Its reasonable that the women have these feelings for her own survival. Nothing satanic about wanting what another person has (when they have more) nor is there anything satanic about being angry when you have been abandoned (presumably due to something imperfect about yourself).

Devils not going to 'spam thoughts' into those already away from faith is he? Sometimes when its salah time, i suddenly cba to get up and pray? Randomly it's as if i have to utilise will power to actually get on the prayer mat. I might think 'o ill do it later' etc. Devils going to target believers. That is logic. Its not like he makes you think it, he 'whispers'. Not illogical at all. Silly topic imo. No disrespect. Wasalaam

(bismillah) i dont think he is brother, he just wants to see their view on this matter, it isnt looking for a fight :) and also it is our duty to respectfully challange their belief and try and guide them to the right path

(salam) None :) (wasalam)

Im a Shia from Pakistan. I know that Taliban are not protectors of Muslims. They are the no-1 killers of Muslim in the world today, both of their own Sunnis and us Shias http://nation.com.pk...ast-rises-to-48 The victims in the report above are people of a Sunni tribe Also this http://tribune.com.pk/story/251406/school-bus-attack-in-peshawar-kills-four-children-police/

They do with Allah permission if they do so. Im not saying they do, but Allah does say that the holders of wilayah are witnesses over mankind. And you're seriously underestimating God if you believe that such beliefs undermine God. Allah encompasses and exceeds everything, be it us, the universe or the Imams. Whatever they are, they are because of Allah.

If the Imams (a) hear and see everything, what is this sermon about in nahjul balagha? Is it only imams who are all seeing and all hearing, but when it comes to rasulullah (s) he didn't know what oppressions his own daughter suffered? Noone is saying that the graves of people aren't special places, and there is no doubt that if you visit the grave of an imam they can hear you, but people shouldn't take it further than that http://www.tashayyu....ams-after-death

What I highlighted in red was true until the time of the prophet Zoroaster in Persia where many Jews were enslaved. The scripture of of Zoroastrianism was practically copied word for word by the Essennes in what is now known as The Dead Sea Scrolls. Furthermore all the Abrahamic religions are engaged in the epic struggle of good versus evil, evil being personified by Satan.

I watched part of the program. khamenaei rosed very strong and good points. May Allah help the Islamic countries to remove their dictators. May Allah help countries suh as Bahrain, Libya, Saudi, Yemen to dismiss the governemnts and make a new and proper "Islamic" government in the country. Amen.

Although, for the most part i am siding with seeker in the discussion, for this particular post, i think we should not pass the buck. A situation like the one in Pakistan is the result of many factors (which include the affects of US actions). And we should not simply point at America for all of another countries problems. People need to take responsibility for their own actions. I think, the people of Pakistan need to organize themselves and create a country wide ideology that will dampen the violence. The issue is that the people themselves are divided, and as an outsider in all honesty i dont understand why theyre divided.

^Yemen is half Sunni and half Shia Zaidi and very divided... in other word, North Yemen is a Zaidi majority region... if any Islamic state is established, under the leadership of Houthis, Zaidis will have their own laws and rules with or without the central government... At present times, under Saleh whose himself a Zaidi Shia but his government is a Saudi-Takfiri slave has been discriminating Shias of all sects for decades. Yemen is the poorest country in the Arab world, and Shia communities are amongst the poorer and oppressed ones in Yemen, now you should have an idea.

IMF report on Iran http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MF18Ak01.html On Ahmadinejad's subsidy reform plan - which ended a range of lavishly generous subsidies on a wide range of items in December 2010, provoking bitter rows between the president and Iran's parliament - the report is positively effusive. "The mission commended the authorities for the early success in the implementation of their ambitious subsidy reform program," it writes. Price rises in areas like energy, public transport, wheat, and bread have resulted from the removal of US$60 billion of subsidies, according to the report. But as a result, it adds: "The redistribution of the revenues arising from the price increases to households as cash transfers have been effective in reducing inequalities, improving living standards, and supporting domestic demand in the economy." Oh cummon dude. All hes asking is, why people aren't allowed to do further research into it, and come up with their own conclusions on what the actual casualty figures were.

a) R=1.8x P= 1.8x-0.9x-54 b} Profit each weekend: $81 c) Break Even: FC/Contribution... 54/0.9= 60 d) Profit being 25% of revenue... 1.8x-0.9x-54=1.8x*0.25... 1.8x-0.9x-54=0.45x 1.8x-.9x-.45x-54=0 0.45x=54..... x=54/.45= 120 e) Profit of 40 cent per item: 1.8x-.9x-54=0.4x..... 0.5x-54=0..... x=54/.5=108 What did u get?

I think what you don't understand is Shias don't have to prove anything using Sunni sources. The existence of the 12th Imam does not depend on your sources verifying it, and neither does any aspect of our religion. You keep mistakenly claiming that we are using 'vague hadiths' to prove our point, but in fact we do not need Sunni hadiths to prove anything. We have our own hadiths that are far more explicit than the Sunni ones. The only time Shias should be using Sunni hadiths is in an effort to wake you people up, since your sources still have enough hadiths in them to make an honest person ask himself serious questions about whether or not Sunnis are on the right path. The hadith of the 12 Caliphs is just one of those hadiths that should make you think a little.

It's in verse 4:24 fof the Quran, even Sunni tafsirs agree with this. Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_controversies_related_to_Nikah_Mut%27ah. The commentary of 4:24 on http://www.shiasource.com/al-mizan/ also explains it well. وَالْمُحْصَنَاتُ مِنَ النِّسَاءِ إِلَّا مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُكُمْ ۖ كِتَابَ اللَّهِ عَلَيْكُمْ ۚ وَأُحِلَّ لَكُم مَّا وَرَاءَ ذَٰلِكُمْ أَن تَبْتَغُوا بِأَمْوَالِكُم مُّحْصِنِينَ غَيْرَ مُسَافِحِينَ ۚ فَمَا اسْتَمْتَعْتُم بِهِ مِنْهُنَّ فَآتُوهُنَّ أُجُورَهُنَّ فَرِيضَةً ۚ وَلَا جُنَاحَ عَلَيْكُمْ فِيمَا تَرَاضَيْتُم بِهِ مِن بَعْدِ الْفَرِيضَةِ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيمًا حَكِيمًا Transliteration: Waalmuhsanatu mina alnnisa-i illa ma malakat aymanukum kitaba Allahi AAalaykum waohilla lakum ma waraa thalikum an tabtaghoo bi-amwalikum muhsineena ghayra musafiheena fama istamtaAAtum bihi minhunna faatoohunna ojoorahunna fareedatan wala junaha AAalaykum feema taradaytum bihi min baAAdi alfareedati inna Allaha kana AAaleeman hakeeman Translation on from al-mizan: And all married women except those whom your right hands possess; (this is) Allah's ordinance to you; and lawful for you is (all) besides that - that you seek (them) by means of your wealth taking (them) with chastity, not committing fornication. Then as such of them with whom you have mut'ah, give them their dowries as appointed; and there is no blame on you about what you mutually agree after what is appointed; surely Allah is Knowing, Wise.

Uh OH Bliss, u got competition

Here it is. Thank you. A wonderful little piece. Perhaps a little lenient. But you seemed to know your subject. You mentioned seeing similar things on the bus. I liked that you added a creative critique of the kinds of buildings they put on them (you should next pen an attack on modern cities generally). The line about their diverting the natural course of a body of water was very good also - though I have never seen it occur. My favourite line is - Perfectly manicured lawns, and terracotta tiles, Where moss grew on rocks, and daffodils bloomed for miles. Last year I only mowed the presbytery yard once. I like long grass. Australian men seem to be addicted to mowing their lawns. In spring and summer here you can hardly go a day without hearing someone hard at it. Probably why they are so violent in the cities. But I do like terra cotta; I shall just imagine harder still that the rest of the house looks like a true "architectured obscenity" and a concrete (and not terra cotta) monstrosity. You softened on them at the end as well. Most of them never even come to their properties. With the mountain I do not even know what monetary profit accrues from their ownership. Others just have them to breed and keep horses (hundreds and hundreds of horses...) to sell most and to race some (I would happily trespass but for the horses). They hardly come from their city homes in a decade and would hardly stay even a night at all leave aside a week. So - should have gone at them harder. But a wonderful piece all the same.

(bismillah) (salam) Why deactivate your account? It's so awful. So final. Like committing suicide. Just take a break and leave quietly. Come back whenever you feel like it. After a while you may want to interact with us again. If you don't like your user name, an administrator can change it for you. :excl:

^^^^ Thank your for sumarizing in such an excellent way. The Shias believe that God is everywhere, he is in heaven, in hell, in septic tanks, in gutters and so forth. I am not sure if Son of Placid believe as such.

salaam alaikum The amount that he asks has to be reasonable to compensate for the damage done to him due to the un-reasonable breach of the contract (khul3) because khul3 is when the reasons for requesting divorce are not good reasons from the wife The local hakim must determine this amount and must limit the man from being un-reasonable usually the amount is the same as the mahr and they call it Bathl which means giving up the mahr but its not random and its not in his hand to be unreasonable and that's why the hakim is needed in disputes to put a limit to these situations. as far as i know the only situation where the husband can stop paying nafaqah is in the situation of noshooz if am not mistaken. If he regards this as noshooz but this is lasting too long and makes no sense because in normal situations the hakim must interfere and solve the problem its obvious that there is a dispute but without knowing the details of the dispute the hakim will not know who is doing the noshooz whether its the husband or not if the husband unlawfully stops nafaqah then the wife can demand the hakim to make him choose between two things, pay or divorce , if he doesn't pay he will automatically have the right to divorce him without his consent if a husband stops nafaqah he is regarded Nashiz and the hakim has the right to divorce him if he didnt comply but remember that "paying" doesn't always mean paying money it just means he sustaining, for example if he provides the food and shelter that's the same as if he pays enough for accommodation and food, so if its not in money it also suffices so long as the food and shelter needs are met. (basic needs) moakhar of the dowry has nothing to do with divorce moakhar just means " the later" which is the part of the dowry that they agree to pay later it is always a debt on his neck even before the divorce but the reasons people link it to divorce is because that's a point where they would depart so they have to close off the balance that they owe eachtoher and hence he has to pay the moakhar the money that he wants is maybe the moqadam (the upfront) part of the dowry that he already paid and maybe he wants a written document to say that the wife gives up the moakhar so that after divorce he will not owe anything to her but I dont think he can request more because thats teh definition of Bathl meaning she can only give up what she has taken and what she demands but to pay from her pocket ???? maybe if he is proving that he was damaged in some way and that she has no good reason for leaving him he would request compensation for that damage but he cant just make up a figure from his head . I hope it works with negotiation and i hope he doesnt become unreasonable I was in a situation like this and the wife caused me a big damage but i didnt demand anything i just demanded from her to release the debts of the moakhar of my head and didnt keep her hanging .... we have to use common sense , if god forbid you live the girl hanging and then due to that she falls into corruption then you might have some of the sin on your neck so following gods advice Either good companionship or freedom with kindness (meaning divorce) and in other versus god says " do not prevent them from marrying again" and the example of the prophet with his wives when he gave them the choice to divorce or stay with him salaam

(bismillah) thanks for sharing this btw :)!! and i doubt their gonna come forward -.-

If Umar and Abu Bakr considered Ali (as) so great then why did they go behind his back and to install themselves king? They knew he was opposed to their ambitions and yet they didnt even think to consult him. Why did Abu Bakr have Umar nominated as the next king with he was so respectful of Ali (as)? Why did Umar not give the khalifate to Ali (as) if he considered himself the Ghulam of Ali (as)? The most meritorious man should rule. The Khilafat means successorship. Successorship to who? Muhammad (pbuh). The term Khalifa is short for Khalifa tur Rasul Allah which in english means "successor of the Allah's messenger". Imamate means Leadership. Muhammad (pbuh) was the leader of Muslims. His heirs were his Ahl-e-Bait. He appointed Ali (as) as successor. Muhammad's authority was both spiritual and temporal.It stands to reason that his successor, anyone with the title "successor of the Allah's messenger" would have to have both temporal and spiritual leadership. OP you are theorizing a seperation of church and state which does not exist in Islam and whose justification is not found in the Quran or Hadith. The Quran tells us to obey the Ulul al Amr and the Imans said they were the rightful Ulul al Amr. You claim love of the Ahl-e-Bayt but does that claim of love translate into action or is your claim but a mere claim. You claim love for the Ahl-e-Bayt but then take your religion from Umar and Abu Hanifa. To them belongs your loyalty in truth. We Shias are loyalist of the Ahl-e-Bayt. We take our religion and philosophy from them. Our worldview depends on their opinions. We do not say "the Ahl-e-Bayt are ours". We say "we are theirs"

Trained in both the arts of WATAHHH and WATERRR Undertake the training in a local cafe kitchen with other fellow WATAH enthusiasts.

i think your slightly uninformed, the imam has contacted many people through dreams, and through disguises through out their period in waiting, http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/234945845-mosque-jamkaranimam-mehdias/ my two cuzons recently visited this site, a man made it, through a dream, he was told by the imam mahdi (as) to construct it.. (bismillah)

to be honest people who gave this opinion -and those who remotely agree with it- have the position akin to waste amongst the humanity.

"Tainted Zam-Zam water?! There's no such thing!"

Salam alaykum, For those interested in the topic, I've posted a piece on infallibility which can be viewed at the link below: http://revolutionize-minds.blogspot.com/20...-discourse.html