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This post wasn't directed at me but I have seen this happening so regularly that I am compelled to make a public complaint. I would like to ask what admins or mods doing about this? According to my understanding calling names and throwing personal slurs go against SC rules, not to mention that this gutter-talk is contrary to Islamic akhlaq. This behaviour is regularly exhibited by this member (you can read many examples of his akhlaq in Bashar al-Asad thread) but I have not once seen his transgressions edited, nor I have seen the member being warned. Is this being tolerated because of the political camp he belongs to? An anti-Assad or anti-WF would have been kicked out long ago with this attitude. Ws

(bismillah) (salam) I know this is long but please read it, inshaAllah it will help make your akhlaq better (not implying anyones akhlaq is bad but we all need improvements) most of us except for the Prophets (as) and the 14 Masoom (as) commit sins. most of us in 1 time in our life have committed a sin however we may not have realised that Allah (swt) is watching us at all times and can see us committing the sin. Now I am not saying that this justifies the sin but we personally may not feel regret or remorse straight away because we do not know that our Lord has seen us commit the sin or at that time we arent religious and we do not care that we committed it. What about when we are religious? When we know that Allah (swt) is watching us all at all times, this helps to reduce the amount of sins we do however we still commit sins, we become upset or angry or delusional and we end up falling into shaytaans trap. What about stuff considered as having a bad akhlaq but we arent commiting sin. Stuff which we know Allah (swt) wont be pleased with us saying/doing but because it isnt a sin and we arent getting bad deeds we commit it anyway. When we are told look at what you are saying in front of Allah (swt) have some akhlaq you should be ashamed of yourselves we do not feel bad and this comes to my main point. We dont feel bad due to the fact that Allah (swt) is always watching us. We feel his presence even though we dont see him and it is a normal thing for us, so it is hard for us to think "Allah (swt) is watching us I shouldnt do this" Let me ask a question .. if the Prophet (pbuh) was standing next to you would you still say those swear words? Would you still do that which isnt haram but is considered as having a bad akhlaq? Your reply would be obviously no. The reason for this is because the Prophet (pbuh) isnt alive and standing next to us and us physically seeing him whereas if we were alive in his time then he could have been. So if in front of the Prophet (pbuh) you wouldnt do that which is considered bad but not haram .. you should try to strive and not do that which is bad but not haram in front of Allah سبحانه وتعالى. And although some may say what I am about to say is "shirk" I dont think it is, especially if it is helping you to become a better person. The next time you are about to say something bad or do something bad just say to yourself "Would I do this in the presence of the Prophet (pbuh)" And inshaAllah this type of thinking will gradually lead to you thinking "I am always in the presence of Allah (swt) and due to this I shouldnt act this way". This is a reminder to myself first and foremost and inshaAllah it benefits at least 1 person. Motto of the thread : Think before you act :D (wasalam)

in the chat room i recently typed something by accident that i didnt meen to type, im soo sorry, guys im serious, i was playing around on the key board and i hit the enter button i didnt meant to send that. if anyone was offended im very sorry, please forgive me.

Much ado about nothing. Funny how some Muslims take everything as war on Islam; sign of an insecure and defeatist mentality.

damn right i do bro i wasted years of my life trying to please my family/ community and fit into the mould of what a man should do. where has it got me so far? 2 degrees that are no use to me, a boring but well paying job at the NHS and the knowledge that everyone is expecting me to do this until im old. screw that man. Im nearly 30 and im sick of this drone like existence. im gonna get myself financially independent insha'Allah, and get out of this rut of a life. even if i start 50 businesses and they all fail, and write 50 books and they all fail, ill keep on trying, cos id rather die as an old man knowing i tried than die knowing i gave up and decided to let life happen to me instead of me living it. that is the entire heart of my argument. your family/ community WANT whats best for you, they dont KNOW whats best for you. thats the difference.

Make some frozen stuff and store em'. Just fry/cook them in the morn before leaving. Here are some recipes: http://simplyrecipes.com/recipes/spicy_chicken_nuggets_chicharrones_de_pollo/ http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/super-easy-chicken-fingers/detail.aspx http://allrecipes.com/recipe/baked-bbq-meatballs/detail.aspx http://allrecipes.com/recipe/potato-croquettes/detail.aspx http://allrecipes.com/recipe/moms-potato-puffs/detail.aspx And obviously nothing beats PB&J sandwich... :wub:

Eid sweets preparations.. This was one bench only :lol: Pretty sure you guys have seen these before. Butter sponge cupcakes with chantilly cream & jam. These are some other leb sweets I've made: Caramel slice:

why dont they let them pray what's the big deal? this stupid behavior will turn the sunnies against the government and this doesnt represent islamic unity because different schools might not allow thier folowers to pray together for example some shia scholars do not allow to follow a sunnie imam am maybe the same vice versa unity is to not harm the other and respect their humanity not force them to go against their religion even though that practice doesn't harm anyone any way iran is not islamic in many aspects one of them being they would never give citizenship to a muslim immigrant until they establish that he has a pure persian blood for many generations as if iran is the ownership of one race and not the ownership of god. israel is more islamic in this law because it gives the israeli citizenship to any Jew all over the world and hence is less racist in that sense also the immigrants used to have green card which doesnt allow them to marry iranians or own a house or go to school or uni (in 1990-1995). some people lived there for 30 years and they are still not citizens but here in Australia they gave us citizenship in 2 years so who is more islamic in this law? here they have what they call government benefits so if you dont work or injured or pensioner or student they give you enough money to live equivalent to the idea of baitulmal but back in those [Edited Out] countries there is no baitulmal but its all in the pockets of the currupts when we tried to get out of iran my father was forced to tavel maybe 30 times to the capital city for a very simple paperwork just because he didnt pay bribe once he paid the bribe they did it for him there is abuot 4 million heroin addicts and poverty and no where near the definition of an islamic state millions of iranians run away from there an islamic country is a country that other people will come to it as asylum seekers in search for their rights and justice and equality not a country that people run away from its evils it could be said that its a trial but to say its islamic is a misrepresentation

Of all the British newspapers that I read, the Guardian seems to have a consistent agenda of regularly publishing anti-Iranian pieces. Much more so in comparison to its coverage of any other middle eastern country. Iran is not perfect but the level of coverage seems hugely disproportionate in comparison to others, who are no angels.

Guardian rubbish, they weren't stopped. Who are their sources feeding these journalists lies?

Look, You can't go to a girl and say: "Hey Babe, wanna do Mutah?' Your either gonna get whacked or her older brother is going to size you up really good. You would first have to approach her, charm her, court her, get her number. Spend a month+ with her. Then she will want to go for a Mutah with you. But this comes down in "Female seduction" which is Haram in Islam. If seduction is haram then how the hell do you get a Mutah? :dry: You can't really go to one's house with a "Mutah proposal" too, Your gonna get the KIA-treatment if you do. (Killed in Action) :dry: Just Curious ~Cid

i dont like the title of thread, i know your making a point, but.

Akhbarism had its uses back in the day for a certain duration of time. But it died due to its impracticality in dealing with social changes and time duration from the source of the akhbar. The Shari'a permitted 'ilm-ul-usul to develop as a naturally evolving process and so the only correct method to issue applicable verdicts is through the 'ilm-ul-usul method, which is why Akhbarism is no longer applicable today. What you have is pseudo-akhbaris that are prone to deviant practices and who (ignorantly) apply a broken form of 'ilm-ul-usul to derive fatwas, but there is no coherence in their methods due to lack of scholarly leadership; which is impossible for them to have today because the Akhbar is no longer being collected. Contemporary scholars and scientists of the Akhbar like Sadrs / Khoe'i / Hakims / Shirazis / Bahrul-Uloums / Fadhlullah / etc use the only correct method of deriving fatwas (through 'ilm-ul-usul).

That kind of approach is rude and inappropriate, to begin with. Shows poor character, imho. The whole point of marriage, permanent or temporary, is to establish love, respect and integrity between the couple. And you can't do that by approaching a muslimah n saying, "Hey babe, wanna do mutah?" dunno who's been preaching you mutah manual but the above approach does not work well for those muslim women who really give a damn about it.

(salam) I think what you're asking him to do is quite ridiculous In Islam we have aqaid and fiqh Aqaid is the foundation of Islam. In aqaid we have tawhid, adl, nubuwwat, imamat, and ma`ad With regards to these things, one should be able to see their logic using their own intellect.. in other words, if someone asks you, how do you know god exists? Or how do you know god is one? You should be able to answer without the quran/hadith, in other words your answer should be LOGICAL... Islam does not allow circular logic, you need to be convinced in your aqaid. A part of aqaid is the belief that Allah is ALL WISE, ALL KNOWING, and that his prophet (S) is ma`sum. Once these things are established, then everything and anything the prophet says should be accepted regardless of what you think. If the prophet said jump in a river you would be obliged to obey. Why? Because you have already established that the prophet is infallible, thus what he says is the word of god. And you have also established that Allah is all wise so you know that anything Allah says is better for you. In other words, fiqh is totally dependant on aqaid ... aqaid is the foundation. If one doesnt have good aqaid then they will question the fiqh If one is told, you must pray 5 times a day, then if they dont even believe that Allah exists then they will say pray to who? If they dont believe that Allah is all wise they will say, "well i dont think its necessary that its 5 times a day" for example. Thus before you accept the fiqh you should accept the aqaid Now if we go to slavery, it has been established that slavery is allowed in islam. And whatever else was proven in this thread. Thus we should accept it, whether we understand it or not because the aqaid has already been established to you What you are asking him to do (prove something regarding FIQH) by logic is ridiculous because we have no reason to do this. Allah said something, we know Allah is all wise, so we accept it. And as a matter of fact, accepting it BLINDLY is all logical because we have proven to ourselves that Allah is all knowing and all wise already I would also like to add, this is what ISLAM is . ISLAM = SUBMISSION. We must submit ourselves to the laws of Allah and may Allah help us in doing this Those who reject laws based on their personal opinion must fight themselves (nafs) and engage in jihad al akbar. We do not want to be from those who have taken their nafs and hawa as a god (ilah) ... as the Quran says the Prophet will not help us if we do this (bismillah) أَرَأَيْتَ مَنِ اتَّخَذَ إِلَٰهَهُ هَوَاهُ أَفَأَنْتَ تَكُونُ عَلَيْهِ وَكِيلًا {43} [Yusufali 25:43] Seest thou such a one as taketh for his god his own passion (or impulse)? Couldst thou be a disposer of affairs for him? [Pooya/Ali Commentary 25:43] The man who worships his own passions and vain inclinations is the most hopeless to teach, lead or guide. Wassalam

By their deeds. I think we'd all agree that Syed Al-Khoei, Al-Shaheed Baqir Al-Sadr, and our other Maraji3 and prominent scholars are 'ulama'. Yes thanks, probably better than you considering Arabic is my first language. I dont need to provide anything, Syed Al-Khoei saying that it's mutawatir and providing an explanation is enough. Unless you think you're in a better position to check the validity and tafseer of a hadith than Syed Al-Khoei? I agree with you 100% on your second point, but you are slightly inaccurate. There are many corrupt 'mua3amams' (people who where an a3mama), not corrupt 'alims'. A corrupt alim wouldnt make sense, because then he wouldnt be an alim. Its like saying 'an unholy saint'. Narrations say that Imam Al-Mahdi (as) will slaughter 80,000 mu3amams on the river of Kufa, so yeahh, you're right. Neither was Syed Al-Khomeini. You are reading inaccurate literature written by the pro-Shah opposition. Be careful with your words my dear MDM, whilst it is indeed a Shia characteristic to oppose a tyrant, it is also a hideous crime to slander a scholar. Most of the maraja3 respect and love Syed Al-Khomeini. Are they all wrong and you right? BTW, @Shirazis, its a wonder how some of you can be so ill-manared. Whilst I personally do not agree with the Shirazi scholar's schools of thoughts, I must respect and admire their akhlaq, which is famed amongst Shia scholars. Have you seen how Syed Al-Khomeini lived? Have you seen how Ahmedinajad lives? Those are not the lifestyles of tyrants. Its sad how Iranians can be so ungrateful to the man who liberated you and freed you. He made your country great, and you spit on him.

(salam) Mystic is actually getting kind of annoying imo... he seems to have received some divine inspiration about the falsehood of Islam and it appears to be his job to guide people to his literal and illogical views....... Reminds me of individualist who appeared here a couple of months ago lol, for anyone who remembers

Safety isn't for the sake of safety. If something happens to that woman the operators could be held liable for not insuring the safety of their clients. They probably never encountered this issue before, so don't expect themto change their rules so quick without review. If I was a worker and the rules clearly say no loose clothing or headgear etc I would have to enforce it as well. Common sense, unless you want to be sued.

TwoBlade, let me tell you the background to this whole debate started by Farid. My brother, slaveofahlubait wrote an article about Ibn Majah, the author of Sunan Ibn Majah. See http://ahlubait.wordpress.com/2011/06/19/tautheeq-of-ibn-maja/ None of Ibn Majah's contemporaries praised him. Rather, NONE of the early Sunnee rijaal scholars did any tawtheeq for him! The first individual to have ever graded him "thiqah" was one of the later scholars. Ibn Majah was pretty much unknown among his contemporaries and the early Sunnee rijaalists. Note that! Farid responded, and my brother counter-replied here http://www.shiaforums.com/vb/f234/reliability-scholars-without-early-tawtheeq-8273/ Farid was losing it all the way. He now wanted to take revenge. So, he searched for a major Shee'ah scholar whom he thinks is like Ibn Majah, and found whom he found. But he was mistaken, because the Shee'ah narrator he picked is clearly different from Ibn Majah! Note what Farid himself said about Ibn Majah in post 33 of that debate: Furthermore, the first clear tawtheeq of Ibn Majah (d. 273 AH) was by Al-Khaleel (d. 446 AH), at least, does not even hit the two hundred year mark. The question is: WHY??? The rest is open for you, TwoBlade. You are suggesting that lack of tawtheeq by early scholars or contemporaries is evidence of weakness. Are you prepared to apply that same principle to Ibn Majah?

mdm's joke of the day: HIS AND HER DIARY FOR THE SAME DAY: Her Diary: Tonight, I thought my husband was acting weird. We had made plans to meet at a nice restaurant for dinner. I was shopping with my friends all day long, so I thought he was upset at the fact that I was a bit late, but he made no comment on it. Conversation wasn't flowing, so I suggested that we go somewhere quiet so we could talk. He agreed, but he didn't say much. I asked him what was wrong; He said, 'Nothing.' I asked him if it was my fault that he was upset. He said he wasn't upset, that it had nothing to do with me, and not to worry about it. On the way home, I told him that I loved him. He smiled slightly, and kept driving. I can't explain his behaviour I don't know why he didn't say, 'I love you, too.' When we got home, I felt as if I had lost him completely, as if he wanted nothing to do with me anymore. He just sat there quietly, and watched TV. He continued to seem distant and absent. Finally, with silence all around us, I decided to go to bed. About 15 minutes later, he came to bed. But I still felt that he was distracted, and his thoughts were somewhere else. He fell asleep - I cried. I don't know what to do. I'm almost sure that his thoughts are with someone else. My life is a disaster. His Diary: scratched my car. dammit!

And your upset because the shirazis are lacking money, spiritual influence and pulling power ? because more people know about south lebanon and SHN and FADLALLAH then they do about whoever it is you follow ? or is it because some beautiful Lebanese girl, that every guy in the Middle East wants, broke your heart ? Or maybe deep down inside you want a Lebanese guy :P settle down hitler !!!!

Molten mini cake Samosa Chaat

I'll put it this way. If Islamic dating indeed does satisfy or maintain the needs of particular individuals. Then by all means go for it. I think the guys that are frequent mutah users should not shove their lifestyle down the anti-mutah people's throats, nor should the anti-mutah people shove their lifestyle down the mutah users throats. Let us all live in peace and harmony :)

About a video on YouTube. This following conversation was about a video where two Russians were speaking to eachother. Someone asked for a translation of what those Russians said. So a guy tried to translate it to English, however his English is questionable. plz someone translate! BuckFarack14 1 year ago man with glass talking in rusian language and another from Oz talk like "serbian"......its +- diferent language..... at first old prison from Oz say:|zrastvaiti/hello.......la­ter he say".......sure i know...you position...............be my defender?..........at the end new prison with glass answer :" stay me calm! Heke1959 11 months ago @Heke1959 Worst translation ever. Mrgyn 5 months ago i am no from countrys which talking in english:) so dosnt matter for me my english:) Heke1959 5 months ago @Heke1959 What do talk about? none of them are talking serbian ore jugoslavic omg ther bouft talking russian SfrjexYu 2 weeks ago (Bouft means both) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sayyid Sistani says paying khums is halal and wajib. We know that khums is broken up into sahm is-saada and sahm il-imaam. Sayyid Sistani has been reading the ahadith for over 50 years. He knows what they say and don't say. So for those that say it is not wajib or let alone halal to give Sayyid Sistani khums, do you really think you're in the right of accusing the Sayyid of being a liar when he says it's wajib shar'i ???

There will be war. Men will practice haram acts. The war between men will produce female captives that will be traded as commodities. It'll be the survival of the fittest. The war will end up killing many men, returning the world to a gender balance. It's a natural process. If the opposite were to occur (lot more women), There won't be war, but there will be a lot more cat fights. Women will flirt a lot more. alimohamad40 will think he's in heaven

Sis you misread me. I prize education and love it, university education included. What I can't understand is that, apart from putting bread on your table, why would someone think that the best use of university education is to get a 9-5 job in some damn corporation?

I've never had peanut butter and jelly.... :Hijabi: Apart from the fact that we call 'jelly', 'jam'; I think I've only had peanut butter once? :lol: Tbh, I don't think I'm missing out on that much? (I live in England :P )

Every other uni student in pakistan nowadays has an affair. I see them making use of U-fone night packages, correct me if wrong? (both sunnis and shias). Infact things are worse over there and you've all become westernised enough to welcome secretive dates .....there is a lot of physical relationship nowadays ...... and no one gives a damn about religion. So would it harm us if we make a lil bit of effort to convince our "gf" to have a halal relationship? Anyhow, if you are looking for a serious mutah relationship in this era, you need to "be a man" ...... It's not like everyone can afford the relationship and own responsibility.......Nowadays, there are so many single mothers, widows, divorcee e.t.c who wouldn't mind emotional/financial support of a muslim man. But is there a muslim, man enough, to fulfill his religious duties?

Because we don't want to accidently cause ecological disasters. And secondly, it's not Islamic to ruin a country's agricultural health even if they are our enemies. The Prophet (pbuh) didn't allow soldiers to destroy crops or kill livestock even in wartime. Plus we're doing the best we can with our maple and wood-glue, if your'e such a forward thinker, give us a solution big-boy! Was-Salaam

Great, I know some good mannered salafis, they'll be relieved to hear that you're an aalim according to them. :rolleyes: Be more specific. So anyone who speaks arabic at home is suddenly an arabic expert? Yasoob knows arabic too, fail. Nasir Makerem Shirazi maybe :lol:

to be honest..i have worked that out :P youre all mental crazy militant aggressive individuals :mellow: lool naa most of you are normal (i think) (youre clearly not though) :P

if they used ahlulbayts teachings and quran, which they did on every matter of their life, then yes their decision is just (bismillah) shameful? you use illegitimate sources and call it shamefull? your name reflects rothchilds family? who funded ww2 to get israel as the homeland for jews and zionists, and you talk about shame? iran does not complain, it protests against the attrocities commited against all muslims not shias, there is no hypocrisy at all my friend go study some more (bismillah)

salaam Brother hussain I have to disagree on some thing you mentioned. Exaggeration is a form of lie. when the prophets say things they mean exactly those things and that might sound very scary when you think of the implications of ghyyba (back biting) brother/ sister mystic you and hussain went through many topics of great importance touching on the fundamentals of ideology and aqeeda but unfortunately I cant be bothered typing anymore even though i feel a big urge to discuss it with you and wished that it was a voice conversation cause it would have made it 100 times easier but i will write just a few things God is Al haq (the ultimate truth) the true religion of god is the ultimate truth Kufr does not mean (disbelief) but it means Cover KUFR = COVER kufr is when you have the knowledge and the truth comes clear to you but you deny it due to self diseases either pride or selfishness or other vices. god is the ultimate truth so the biggest kufr is blocking and covering that truth.. disbelief is a bit different to denial. disbelief could be due to ignorance but denial is after obtaining the knowledge you cover up to satisfy some disease now god is the ultimate truth and the infinite who does not lack Evil is always attributed to lacking therefore god is All good Justice is good hence god is All just and impartial therefore his system would be the infinite justice and the absolute (objective) moral high ground. now i believe when you reject hadeeths your not rejecting them because you want to challenge god but you reject them because you do not attribute them to god and that is fair and not kufr in itself but i tell you where the problem is later. The true Religion of god is based on universal laws and formulas that all must add up and make sense as you say but we have to be careful not to confuse our lack of understanding of those formulas with our personal bias and desire motivated sentiments... You need a rule of thumb of how and when you can reject the hadeeth first of all you need to do ijtihad (which should be the ultimate goal of every Muslim ) there are many occasions where you can reject : the hadeeths could be rejected if: 1) it directly contradicts Usool aldeen (the basic Fitra of the human which constitutes gods voice) (gods divine unity, his divine justice, equilibrium with afterlife, the necessity of the existence of masoom at any time) many things are derived from these basic bases including universal fiqh formulas like: no obedience for the created in disobeying the creator you can not disobey god in order to bey him ETC 2) if it directly contradicts one of the well established fiqh formulas 3) if the hadeeth directly contradicts the more authentic text i.e. the Quraan 4) if the isnad is problematic so yes you do have the right to reject the hadeeth or the law if you really prove that its in contradiction with gods jsutice because gods jsutice is usool aldeen and you are not allowed to imitate in that but you have to use your own mind and analysis,,, but you need to look at the examples individually and study each and your reasons need to be genuinly because you want to avoid attributing injustice to god... if thats your sincere intention god will help you see things that others dont and clear up each of those topics for you. but the people we have been clashing with here are of the type who are rejecting for very obvious selfish reasons not based on any schoalrly ijtihad or a sincere intention to avoid attributing wrong thigns to god and i say this because these people are admitting what thier motives are... for example they appologize so much about polygyny being cruel and gainst the womens right yet they advocate a system which is also polygamy but using illigitimate relationships instead of ligitimate and respectful ones through proper contracts. or they cry foul about early marriage but they allow early forincation and call it (LOVE) they limit the minimum marriage age to 18 but teh sex age at 16 creating a two years enforced and legal fornication !!! (enforced because you are not allowed to marry at that age yet you are legaly allowed to fornicate ) criminalizing a 19 year old who marries a 17 year old but legalizing for an 80 year old to marry one 18 year old and fornicate with 1000 others!!! they cry foul about multiple marriage and put you in jail even if its your own consent but they clap for sodomites under the excuse that they are consenting adults as if the polygamists are not consenting adults ??? why should anyone try to appologize to people who have such a satanic and hypocritical marriage system when it comes to marriage issues? its just that they want to stay in certain comfort zones that they created and they oppose what takes them out of that comfort zone... The most important thing is that none of us challenges god because pride is the recipe to failure. one last thing is you said what about those who do not get a messenger its part of gods justice that he would not let that happen and if it happens that you are the last person on earth then the only likely scenario will be that you are the masoom. if not then god will not request from you to derive all the universal (objective) moral codes which is usually the job of the prophets but he will be happy with you reaching to usool aldeen and some of the morals you derive from them and applying them in your life. but god is more merciful than that and will definitely give you a perfect and complete message that you have to look for. i would have missed a lot of points but its hard

I have a similar complaint. This is turning into a "hate-site" as one of the members put it. What are the mods/admins doing about it?

To improve ShiaChat.com? I would get rid of him ^ :P Don't know if this has been said in the thread already - but the list of recent topics on the side should be longer so that topics don't disappear so quickly. It's an nuisance that only 5 recent topics show up and everybody is posting at different times of the day.

(bismillah) (salam) This is by far the best reply, to your own post. :) I like especially like the part 4)... "having fun doing so"... It's time to put the fun back in Islam. Islam is the greatest thing through which our Creator intended to make our life easy. This is also the way to "sell" islam to your kids or friends who are not muslim yet... If they see the passion and the fun we have it would make them intrested... The fun of breaking your fast, the fun of having a beautiful hijabi wife (who doesn't even share her looks with other people), the fun of going to ziyarah, the fun of meeting other believers... Allah bless you akhi! ma'a salama, Ihsaan

Interesting, we call it salad olooviyah, I'm sure iraqis make it too....

You should leave "America" (named after the evil 15th century CE European thug Amerigo Vespucci of Italy) aka Amerikkka and give it back to the Native Americans you stole from, and Hindu caste racism is disgusting. Also your talking about "minorities" I'm sure you support the racist, slaveowning, Native American killer and fourth US "President" James Madison who stated the goal of the imperialist US government (two party plutocracy owned by Zionist AIPAC) at home is "to protect the minority of the opulent (aka the wealthy) against the majority". Right wing racists in Amerikkka don't care about actual minorities in Amerikkka like Blacks, Latinos, Muslims, Asians, etc to these right wing "Tea Party" idiots a "minority" is rich people and rich Zionist Jews (rich from usury and oppression). Also where is there call to bring justice and democratize the means of production out of the hands of the robber class, fatcat bourgeoisie criminals. Also only takfiri Wahhabi terrorists that want to harm both Iranian Shi'a Muslims and Iranian Sunni Muslims would ever call for a separate Eid ul-Fitr prayer. The Iranian Sunni Muslims love their government and are treated completely equal to Iranian Shi'a Muslims.

Salam, I would not profess how nice a Muslim I am and would never say that I am not in need of muta, I am so why to lie about it. :) I've also liked in the past the comments and some times insights of the 4 accoused, lol, namlely br. Alimohamad40 and the gang, and like some of the angles with whivh they debate. I have also read sister ImAli and others comments, and I have come to, rightfully or wrongfully, conclude that some of the brothers on this forum are little extremist in their views about defending muta and monogam stuff etc. I respect them that they would not let any of the islamic thing get criticized and would defend it vigorously, all I would hope that they show the same fervor in following and defending other things Islamic in thier and their families lives. That said, I also totally understand the decent and humane and Islamic arguments of our more reasonable (not the financial aspect arguing) sisters on this forum. I don't have access to my books here, but I read somewhere that someone asked Imam Ali (as) that why he was not marrying more women while Syeda Zahra (as) is alive, and Imam's reply was that he did not want the daughter of prophet to feel bad. There you go, this proves enough that those sisters who are arguing against it for their personal dislikes are fair enough as long as they recognize that muta etc is halal and is the way of prophet (saw) but is also not wajib sunnah. Ok now all those who may attack me personally for saying all this, here was my situation, I was approached by more than one Shia converted ladies to do muta' with them in my area, and I rejected the proposal. At that time I was not in the situation to settle permanently with someone and did not want a Shia momina sister to give herself to me only to be parted later. Remeber women are flowers (as per Imam Ali) and no matter how much they confess that they would not emotionally get involved, as was the case with those ladies, I still refused so as not to hurt them. For me abstinance was a better option than making a momin or momina gets hurt due to any of my actions. May be I am a little bit of Islamic feminist. Besides if you happen to deal with women, no matter they are western or eastern, by nature they are more trusting and more gullible kind. I think it should be us, the momin men, who should be a sort of shadow on our momina sisters heads to save them from others and our desires. You won't belive to the extent some of them would agree to go, but I could never bring myself to "use" their innocence for my desires.

I remember a few years back, a bunch of teenagers were kicking a little kitten, even cut a piece of its tail off, and squirting it with water and throwing firecrackers at it in the street and it tried to hide under my uncle's Volvo. I was so furious, I ran out and yelled at all of them, how can they do this to an innocent creation of Allah!? The poor little thing was so terrified, I grabbed it and we nursed it back to health, alhamdillah it survived and a year later had 4 beautiful babies, mashallah. This was in Bourj al Barajneh if anyone's wondering :dry:

http://www.shiachat....ni-good-or-bad/ It's sad to see so many Shias who are ignorant of these issues The world is not in black and white. Even from my own friends I see this issue arising which is really worrying. Someone I know once said 'well you can't compare Iran with Saudi, Saudi kills Shias whilst Iran doesn't'. When someone makes a claim like that then that means they're truly blind. I don't blame them though. Sometimes it's easier to live in your own bubble and stay oblivious too all that is taking place in the Muslim Ummah...

Thoughts: I keep forgetting that I'm not fasting. I get thirsty and don't drink water but then realise I'm allowed to drink.

did you not read the post by all muttaqi? Next time the issue of wahabis not allowing the shi'a of their country the freedom to worship as per our rules, i want to see people come out with this 'no sunni, no shia prayer' nonsense. Just for the eid prayers, i think iran should relax the rules

They are trying to make Iran look bad

^ O_O that is like a Hajj in one morning. If that hadith is authentic than that is amazing. Looks like I shall be practicing this then :D

She did consult one but their nice soothing voices are annoying

Mac, do we really have to do this? Firstly, this isn't about me vs. you. The problem was never that yall "disagree" with us. The problem is and always has been that yall rebel against the marja'iyah. Otherwise, of course I am, always have been, and always will be ignorant. There is no questioning this, and I have never attempted to do so. But it is yall who are putting yourselves in a position where you feel you have the right to defame, insult, and reject scholars. Not us. Therefore, this is an issue of you vs. scholars, not you vs. us. So, even if your point is a legitimate one, trying to sidetrack the discussion by bringing up a flaw in something that one of us has said or done is quite meaningless! Now... as for your point, I am not familiar with what you are talking about. All of the statements of the leader about Sayyed Fadlullah that I have read or heard were positive things. And of course, I will not simply "take your word for it," because you have been wrong in the past. Many things are said about scholars that are not substantiated. People have said Sayyed Sistani said you cannot pray behind Sayyed Fadlullah. Nobody has ever provided a concrete source for that. If I wanted to take Thomas Friedman's word for it, I would believe that Sayyed Sistani is anti-IR and pro-American. Does Sayyed Sistani's actual statements reflect this? Robert Baer in his recent book even went so far as to say that Shahid Sadr and Imam Khomeini had major ideological differences, and that the IR making a lion out of Shahid Sadr after his martyrdom was a work of revisionism (not sure what he was smoking when he wrote that book). There's a lot of nonsense about our scholars; some of them nonsense written by Western political analysts, and other nonsense written by rumor mongers who unfortunately are themselves Shia. For me, Robert Baer and Thomas Friedmansteinowitz have more legitimacy than you, so I don't simply take your word for it. (Although, assuming what you say is 100 percent correct and you are not spinning this in the way which is typical of you, it is still besides the point). And of course, it is to your benefit to propagate the idea that ulama are at each other's necks. (As you can see, you have quite succeeded in your efforts to divert the discussion. Not only have you made it about me, when in fact it was not about me, but you have found an outlet for propagating ideas of intra-ulama fitnah). Ayahs and narrations were provided for you. You projected your personal views onto them to the point that they were stripped of their meaning. Go read the simplest, GED book about WF in circulation: hokumat e eslami velayat e faghih by Imam Khomeini. He argues in favor of WF using hadith. As for your assertions regarding those titles (ayatollah, etc.), why don't YOU provide ahadith to prove this view of yours? Everything is "ayatollah." Everything is a sign of God. Pick up the Quran, dude. I didn't say that WF's "newness" proves its correctness. And in fact I don't believe it to be new. (Haj Hassan Rahimpour Azghadi has a great lecture on this where he explains its actually a concept that goes back thousands of years). I am merely saying that something's prevalence among the ummah for hundreds of years does not equate to it being legitimate. Unless you believe that in the 1400 years since the revelation of the Quran, Shias have not deviated from their faith ever until the Islamic Revolution of Iran? I will raise another point which I forgot earlier: The deviant current likes to talk about ismah a lot. This is the driving force behind their argument: so-and-so isn't ma'soom. I refuse to enslave myself to a non-ma'soom. So so-and-so is more learned than them (not just in fiqh but in everything), has better akhlaq than them, is more faithful than them, is braver than them, is more selfless than them, has better control of his nafs than them, is a better father and husband than them, is a better son than them, can beat them in a game of pick up basketball, et al... He is superior to them in every way, but somehow his lack of ismah means being "enslaved" to him is such a grave sin and must be avoided. Does this add up? Remember this: when the deviant current rejects this leadership, they are not rejecting it because they see this leadership as illegitimate. They are rejecting it because they reject the very notion of anybody leading them! They legitimize this viewpoint by claiming to answer to a higher authority; a past authority. But this ploy is the most common ploy in the history of religion and ideology. These people are followers of the Imams in the same way that Mirhossein Mousavi is a follower of Imam Khomeini; they use the image of being a "more devoted, more hardcore, more pure" follower of the past authority in order to legitimize their rebellion against the current authority. This is the only basis on which they can rebel; otherwise, we see that the current authority has all the lofty traits which we would need and expect of a leader! Anyway I'm retiring from this discussion because you guys are emitting retardo rays and I don't want to become contaminated.

My dear brothers, there isn't a desire you cannot conquer. We humans grossly underestimate our capacity to be mentally tough.