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there is no unity between haqq and batil. only a fool would strive for it.

(bismillah) (salam) First of all, to clarify. As ya aba said about my post.. I do not mean that they are "shaitan". What I meant was.. When I stare at a beautiful girl walking down the street with no hijab at all.. I remember shaitan, because that's when a man is most vulnerable to shaitan's trap. In the same manner, I remember Shaitan when I get angry about something.. And I immediately calm down before I do/say something that hurts anyone. That is my way of not getting tempted by shaitan. If someone is not doing hijab they are not shaitan, of course.. why would I mean that? Secondly, I never.. never said anything about you directly. But you said a lot of things about me. Again I'd only like to say that If I'm wrong may Allah forgive me but if you are wrong may Allah forgive you. I mean seriously jen.. If you didn't agree with my point you could have just asked me to clarify what I meant. I find it interesting that on this site, whenever someone disagrees with another the first thing they say about them is them being asian, or about their family's background.. and things like that. Setting examples, aren't we.

See that's the sad thing. You have so many scholars and marjas saying stuff like this, pleasing the followers of oppressors and going to the disgusting extent of saying (ra). And just for the sake of what? Unity? Have sunnis ever budged for the sake of our beliefs? Us shia should sort ourselves out before we start praying behind them and becoming experts in unity nonsense more than in our own articles of faith.

(bismillah) (salam) I have noticed on alot of the forums that people start off with asking a question, this leads to a debate which leads to arguing and then leads to insulting one another. Whether it is about WF or Shirazi or Marriage or Azadari or Syria or Iran or Taqleed etc.. There is nothing wrong with someone asking a question, and I don't see anything wrong with putting forward your views, but why is it that everywhere on this forum people put forward their views and then throw a couple insults at the other person whilst they are at it? What are you trying to achieve by insulting others? Even if in the end they accepted y'our views and found them to be correct and admit they made a mistake did you bring them to accept your views in a good way? I dont recall the prophet (pbuh) insulting someone who didn't accept Islam nauthobillah Just because someones views are different to yours it doesn't give you a right to insult them. (wasalam)

Just recently there was a bomb scare near Seyedda Zainab in Syria....oh and it was a Palestinian attempting to bomb up the Holy Shrine. I personally will not help out those nasibis. Sure there's innocent people in them, they're getting enough attention by the rest of the world. Let us have a day remembering the oppressed Shias in the world! Until that day comes, my stance will stay the same. The funny thing is, there was an Al Baqi protest near the Saudi Arabian emabssy last year, hardly any Shias turned up (less then 50 people) but when it was Al Quds hundreds of people turn up. Just proves to show how hyprocritical us Shias are!

People who are against this day hold the views that in the 1970s/80s/90s the Shias of Lebanon, Iraq and Iran were mercilessly butchered, kidnapped, tortured and killed by the Palestinians....so they say that we can not support those nasibis who would kill us if they had the chance. In addition, many people are angry as they say that our Shia brothers and sisters come before anyone else. The attention should be given to the persecuted Shias of Bahrain, Pakistan etc. With all that said, innocent is innocent and no one deserves to be killed. The Palestinians don't have good tactics. Hezbollah defeated Israel as they fought like true Shias. They didn't attack the civilians or bomb buildings. Hamas should learn a thing or two from them. The only reason why Al Quds day is so hyped up is due to Khomeini making this a day of remembrance.

You're spot on bro. Imam Ali (as) "The greatest wealth is contentment". This dunya's nothing. The akhira is everything. We just have to do our **** and get the hell out of here. It's like a job, you wake up (birth), go to work (earn in the dunya), go to sleep (death). The problem is the assessment (yawmil qiyama). If you messed up with the time given to you, your grade will be a big F and you'll suffer for it. Albak tayyib bro :) Allahy waf'ak ya rab.

You've all been jack'd! Sayyed Kamal is not defending Abu Bakr; he is criticizing him with a thunderous force! But not using the emo kid, curse-filled method that the hatemongers, bigots, and Shiahabis like to use; no no no. He uses the language of reason. This is why Sayyed Kamal is among the most brilliant servants of the ahlul bayt alive today, and it is why he -- not the foul-mouthed retardos whose ammamehs are made of socks -- is the future of Islamic scholarship. May Allah grant him long life and health so that we can continue to benefit from his brilliant teachings and may Allah allow us to acquire even one millionth of the knowledge he has. To all/one of you who jumped the gun and believed in the accusation against His Eminence Grand Ayatollah Sayyed Kamal al-Haydari (Ya Ali) without even bothering to watch the video, your intentions have been shown. Is your intention to uphold truth, if you are simply waiting for an opportunity to come and accept an accusation without proof? Some of you (I won't say who!!!) talks a lot of haq and batil. If you are so into haq, why did you not watch the video and weigh it against the accusation? Why were you so quick to believe it? Would our Imams whose names you always invoke, believe an accusation against someone willy nilly (much less, an accusation against a respected individual like Sayyed Kamal)??? Perhaps (and this is my analysis; maybe it is true, maybe it is untrue) it is because you are not, in fact, an upholder of truth, but rather an individual with a particular agenda, a particular bias, a particular (unwarranted) view, a particular jealousy, and a particular psychological disease, which forces you to wage a constant war against the most faithful, the most learned, and the most selfless of people who are today in our presence: our mujtahids. Indeed, it is by the grace of God that some people are always in their "scholar attack mode," waiting to pounce on an opportunity to defame those who serve God, and who serve the ummah (though it seems the latter doesn't really deserve this service). This tactlessness of the attack team is how average, mo'min, unassuming, innocent-minded Muslims can become aware of their plots and their intentions: when they attack mindlessly, they show themselves to be the exact opposite of "upholders of truth." Now, moving on... Watch what you say! This translation was done by a person from whose face emanates a wilayi noor which, if you saw it, it would blind your eyes and fill your heart and mind with the truth of the universe and the divine! Sister Blissful: I don't want to be mean to a girl. I find it to be an un-akhlaqi thing to do. But your recent... transformation, has left me no choice. Firstly (and this is the obvious point), you didn't watch the video. This means that when you said what you said, you were accepting the accusation against Sayyed Kamal without having even looked at the proof. What does this mean? This means you only believed the accusation, because it fits into this new anti-scholar lens which you have recently acquired (most certainly by impure influences on this website). Secondly, the issue of Shia-Sunni unity is not "nonsense." You may think its nonsense, because you are in a place where these issues are opaque and far-removed. Or for example, Muslims here in the US (where I am) may think this way. But in many parts of the world, this is not the case. In many parts of the world, the issue of sectarianism tears across the very fabric of society and ruins the lives of people. Today, in Syria, we are witness to this. Sectarianism is being used as a means to disunite people. You, as a Lebanese, should understand more than anyone the effects of sectarianism! The idea of Shia-Sunni unity (and Muslim-non Muslim unity), is not a "nonsense" idea. It is an idea meant to prevent violence and civil strife. Just because you are far-removed from these matters does not mean it does not affect people. People in Iraq, Lebanon, Baluchestan, etc... These people know what sectarianism means, and what it implies. So while you talk of "truth" and of avoiding "appeasement," others are paying the price of this misplaced bravado with their blood. This is Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah's view on this matter: Now you come along and say its nonsense. I'm sorry, but who the hell are you? Who asked you? The Sayyed -- whose every breath is a service to the ummah -- speaks out against sectarianism all the time, but no... you think you're above this. I wonder, if you would give your son; if you would give up your material comfort; if you would give up your security and allow that your life be under constant threat, to serve Muslims? I wonder if you have as much honor in you as the Sayyed has in one drop of his sweat? And yet, by the miracle of the internet, here you are calling one of the most basic ideas that he espouses, nonsense. Thirdly, and this is my sincere advice to you: be decisive. Don't be so wishy washy. Don't be in between one ideology and another; how can you claim to be on the side of truth when you are so indecisive? If you want to be in Imam Khomeini's line, then be in Imam Khomeini's line. But remember that this involves surrending all of your personal inclinations, and forming opinions on the condition that they conform with the opinions of the leadership. If you want to not be in the Imam's line, that's fine too. Go become Akhbari and study at the Zaveri hawzah. Or go join MDM and the Shirazis in waging jihad al-asghar on their own heads. Just be decisive about it. And remember, that if you choose the latter path, this is the fate that awaits you: The Islamic Revolution is like a tree that grows straight up. All the little branches that try to grow prominent, are cut off. Banisadr, MKO, Montazeri... they all had way more repute, way more of a following, and way more resources than you, or any other person today who has deviated from the revolution path. And they all failed. And you will fail as well, if you choose this path. And the same goes for all the other youth who are suffering from certain confusions and ideological uncertainties ("thanks" to the efforts by impure elements to corrupt their minds): do not think that it is cool and rebellious to tread this path. It will only bring you suffering, failure, and defeat. Ya Ali

You've completely misunderstood. To be fair, the translation isn't the best. He's being sarcastic. He's saying that if Abu Bakr was right, then Fatima must have been wrong, because Fatima was displeased with Abu Bakr. He then says that thats impossible, because even with Sunnis, Fatima is 'Syedat nisaa' ahlul janna' (leader of the women of paradise). He's pointing out a contradiction in Sunni Islam.

Im going to get slaughtered here, but i have to say sis well, even tho there is halal and haram, if i did that to my mrs, she would prob shoot me between the eyes ! Plus i personally dont think its right, it might be halal under certain circumstances, but i dont agree with it. I wouldnt like my mrs to be alone in a hotel room with another man, and neither would 99% of the guys in here, so please all of you get off your high horses, and dont talk to me about halal haram ! For all the pro mut3a and pro multiple marriages, im asking you ALL for permission to do mut3a with your sisters, and take them as MY 2nd or 3rd or 4th wife !!! then after i have them, i will take the rest for mut3a purposes ! Lets see how you all like that ? not barking so confidently now are we ? gee no wonder why SUnnis are laughing at us, something that Allah Blessed us with, so we can cope in certain circumstances has been BLOWN out of proportion to fulfill mans sexual desires ! so please guys show a little respect, im going to post this on every where i see a mut3a or multiple marriage post, because even though its halal im sick of guys defending it, who have never even kissed a girl, let alone held hands with one ! when you do one day, and you do fall in love, and have a family, then come back here and share with everyone how complex and hard it is to pull off... THink about her for a second instead of testosterone ! Salams if you delete this post, then this site is a scam, because i have no broken the rules , im only portraying a blunt reality !

(salam) dear sisters, Read this beautiful story! Lin was a beautiful young Chinese woman who recently got married but, because neither she nor her husband had enough money to buy a house of their own, they had to live with her mother-in-law. After some time, she began butting heads with her mother-in-law and had a difficult time adapting to her. Their personalities were very different and Lin became increasingly irritated with her mother-in-law's customs and habits, which she constantly criticized. Over the months, things got so bad that life became unbearable. However, according to Chinese ancient traditions, a daughter-in-law must always be at her mother-in-law's service. Lin, unable to bear the idea of living with her mother-in-law any longer, decided to go see a master, an old friend of her father. After hearing the young woman, master Huang grabbed a bunch of herbs and said: "You shouldn't use all of these herbs at once to get rid of your mother-in-law because it may raise suspicions. You should mix them in with her food, little by little, day by day, this way she'll be slowly poisoned. To be sure that no one suspects anything when she dies, you should be very careful and always treat her with great kindness. Don't argue with her and always lend a hand with whatever she needs." Lin replied, "Thank you, master Huang, I will do everything you've said." Lin was thrilled and returned home enthusiastic about the plan to kill her mother-in-law. During several weeks, Lin served her mother-in-law a specially prepared meal every other day. She always kept in mind master Huang's advice to avoid suspicion: she controlled her temper, obeyed her mother-in-law and treated her as if she were her own mother. After six months, the whole family was transformed. Lin kept her temper under control and almost never got upset. Months passed, and she hadn't argued at all with her mother-in-law, who also seemed much kinder and easier to get along with. Her mother-in-law's attitude changed and they began treating each other like mother and daughter. One day, Lin went back to master Huang to ask him for help and said: "Master, please help save my mother-in-law from dying. She has become such a nice person and I love her as if she were my own mother. I don't want her to die because of the poison I've been giving her." Master Huang smiled and nodded, "Lin, don't worry. Your mother-in-law hasn't changed. You were the one who changed. The herbs I gave you were actually vitamins to improve her health. The poison was in your attitude and was replaced by the love and affection you began dedicating to her." Now, dear friends, prepare the herbs and begin the treatment with your mothers-in-law! :D

Dreams shaped on violence and oppression, Hopes crushed through military might; and The imprint of satan’s mace. Houses built on the echoing rubble of homes, Policies shaped on abuse and bigotry. Forgetting the recompense awaiting you in the eternal abode, You keep on, proud of your perceived victories; For every funeral you caused, Every bride you widowed, Every child you crippled, Every son you orphaned, Every mother you caused to mourn, Every father you left helpless, Every orphan you left in pangs of hunger, Every family you left desolate, Every home you tore apart, brick by brick, Every existence you threatened, Every planted grove you ripped from the earth, Every protected camp you shelled with bombs and gas, Every oppressed voice you stifled; and Every breath you suffocated. Surprised and enraged by our resilient existence, You forget your motto keeps us going: From God we are, and to Him we must surely return! Firm in the defence of our homeland, The land of saints and prophets, The land blessed by Isa (as), Muhammad (saw) and Mahdi (atf) Quds - the land of the free. Where death from your hands is anticipated; and Victory from God assured! May Allah free all the lands from oppression and occupation, and hasten our victory through the reappearance of our awaited master and saviour, Imam al Asr waz-Zamaan. (wasalam)

And when I said to run away I meant to get yourself and your children out of the situation especially if you are in a place that you risk losing your children because of a polygamous marriage. By the way most men are doing it for lust....and only wants to help himself.

(salam) This thread is hilarious.

The fact that hardly any Sunni bother to show up to these marches shows how pointless they are. Not in favour.

screw em. where is the outcry and global day for innocent shias, why is it always palestine palestine palestine?

First of all if someone is living in the United States and enters into a plural marriage they go after the man....all of his wives, sometimes arrest them and put the children into foster care. What happens to kids in foster care? Nine times out of ten they are abused mentally, physically, sexually or all of the above. Imagine for a woman who's husband married another but the country they are living in it is illegal and the authorities pursue her also? There is alot more to think about here than most men are willing to talk about and I have had many questions besides the original which are being ignored. Of course you gave the typical male response...by the way what happened to the control of animal urges?

macisaac's nonsense stems from the unusual foundation of his personal belief. This is why facism and radical extremism manifests itself in all his views on nearly every topic.. The ahadith are merely a guise, a kind of sophistry. Much like statistics, they can be manipulated very easily. It's how they are selected and applied that is important.. In any case, for the rest of the sensible population, the (1) brutal oppression and (2) it's wider significance in the contemporary world - is obvious to all of us.. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/how-israel-takes-its-revenge-on-boys-who-throw-stones-2344037.html

Alimo, I'm curious to know, don't you think it's better to marry faithful, religious ladies since that is what is recommended in Islam?

wa salam, akhi First, yes I agree that, for the most part, the door to halal has been closed in the face of young people with regards to the issue of marriage. I have spoken extensively about this on ShiaChat and elsewhere so most people know my position, but the solution that you are proposing goes against the recommendations of our Imams and Prophet(peace be upon all of them) as I understand them. I'm sure you are familiar with the very famous ahadith from Rasoulallah regarding choosing a partner for marriage. According to this ahadith and many others from our Imams, the criteria for marriage (either a man marrying a women or a women marrying a man) is Iman and Taqwa and if there is no Iman and Taqwa then marriage is not advisable, according to the well known ahadith. Of course the Prophet and Imams(a.s) follwed their own ahadith or they would be considered hypocrites(au3zubillah). So it is incoceivable to me the they would marry any women without the qualities that they emphasized are necessary for marriage. There is no example that I know of that they acted contrary to this standard. Second, you mentioned the marriage to the wife in quesiton (Aisha). I never said that there were no benefits to this marriage. The point was that when the Prophet married Aisha she was very young (the exact age is debatable) and all of the characteristics that she became famous or some would say infamous for were not part of her personality at the time of the marriage. So he never married a women of questionable character. Her character became questionable AFTER the marriage despite his best efforts to guide her. The same is the case with the other wife, Hafsa (both of whom are chastised by Allah(s.w.a) in the Holy Quran). I don't know about that and it may or may not be true. The point is that our guides and role models are Ahl Al Bayt and twelve Imams. They are the ones we look to for emulation. What others did, even if they are daughters of the prophet or step daughters thru wives other than Sayyid Khadija(a.s) are not relevant to this topic. It is hard for me to believe that a muslima who is raised in the West has no idea that dating, sleeping around, going to clubs, drinking, etc. is o.k.. Even families here who are culturally Arab and secular would not let their daughters engage in this kind of behaviour and would consider it a big shame. There are some exceptions to this, like if they are learning disables, or live in a remote village with no access to Internet, etc. but these cases are very few. Most of the women and girls who do this know that it is wrong but choose to do it anyway because of following their Hawa Nafs (vain desires). If you say they will change because they see your good aklaq, etc, then you are assuming that they have never had anyone in their life as a good example. Most of the time this is not true. They may have had a corrupt father or immediate family, but Allah(s.w.a) always buts people in your life as good example, even if they are not related to you by blood. In Australia, as here in the U.S., you have many good examples and many bad examples to follow. They choose which one(s) they want to follow. That is their free will. How do you figure that by marrying them you will all of a sudden 'flip' them over to the right side ? That is a big assumption and by associating with someone who is corrupt you affect your own life and your own family and in the end not even accomplish the goal and they might not even change (as was the case with Aisha). Alhamduillah, you have many good mumin brothers and sisters and many good and elequent Ulema who can give very good and powerful lectures in English. You are very blessed with this in the land 'down under'. I wish we had someone with the calibre and abilites of Sheik Jihad (I forget his last name now) in Sydney here in Dearborn. I wish that all these girls and women who are doing corrupt actions would change and become mumina and would benefit humanity from that. We would be living in a much better world them, but them getting the hidayah depends on the will of Allah(s.w.a) and them taking steps toward Allah(s.w.a) and I don't see how marriage can guarantee that this will take place.

New link:

(bismillah) (salam) Since I have noticed and seen many people ask for a "strong" supplication or for a "supplication that works" I thought I should make a post that highlights the necessary conditions for any supplication to be fruitful. Without these conditions even the "strongest" supplication may not "work." http://unveilingthelight.blogspot.com/ Eltemase Dua (salam)

That approach is wrong on so many different levels One Yes, but it is not really just about Sunnis at the tip of the mediterranean is it? It's about an hegemonic power in the middle east that is expanding and the reach of whose power is affecting millions of Muslims thousands of miles removed from Palestine. The average Iraqi may have thought Pals had nothing to do with them, but it was Israeli lobbying that was partly responsible for the Iraq war. As the past few months have shown Israel was instrumental in keeping in power an Egyptian despot who had effectively imprisoned his entire population. Keep quiet if you want to, but your turn will come. Two Injustice is injustice, whoever it is against. There are many atheists, Christians and Jews who protest against the actions of the Zionist regime. These people also have reasons not to like Sunnis and Palestinians. But still they speak. The Americans have martyrs such as Rachel Corrie, the Brits have Tom Hurndel - Shias have people like you making up excuses. Three Shia support for Pals is a slap in the face for the Mubaraks of this world. If Shias are supporting the Pals it makes Sunni collaboration with the Zionist regime even more embarrassing for the regimes of the hypocrits.

So what now you mOngo? You're looking for advice for what exactly? How to make them like you etc... or what? Listen you like him, he likes you, end of story... Make your own lives together, especially after you get married... Just be as neutral and friendly as you can be when you're around them and that's it... Stop trying to "fit in", be what he likes you for... It's your lives now, not theirs... Bahhh...

The Returning of Sun for IMAM Ali (a.s) It has been experienced that some people have serious problems with the qualities of Ahlul Bayt (Family of Prophet – Peace be upon him). Starting from Ibn Taymiyah till neo-Salafis of today, they have been finding faults in Ahlul Bayt especially in Sayyidna Ali(alayhum salam). They show their hatred in different ways such as: a ) Rejecting the Sahih/Hasan hadiths with vigor just because they mention superior qualities of Prophetic family. B ) Showing fanatical support for enemies of Ahlul Bayt like Yazid (LA), Marwan (LA) etc… c ) Accepting same qualities for other Sahaba but illogically considering them “Ghuluw (excess) for Ahlul Bayt” like on the issue of Sayyidna Ali (A.S) being born inside Ka’ba or first to accept Islam, etc… I will concentrate on “Point # Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã this time and touch the Sahih/Hasan hadith of Sun being returned when Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) was resting his head on the lap of Mawla Ali (A.S). Let us first of all read the complete hadith along with the chain. حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو أُمَيَّةَ ثَنَا عُبَيْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ مُوسَى الْعَبْسِيُّ ثَنَا الْفُضَيْلُ بْنُ مَرْزُوقٍ عَنْ إبْرَاهِيمَ بْنِ الْحَسَنِ عَنْ فَاطِمَةَ بِنْتِ الْحُسَيْنِ عَنْ أَسْمَاءَ بِنْتِ عُمَيْسٍ قَالَتْ : { كَانَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ وَسَلَّمَ أُوحِيَ إلَيْهِ وَرَأْسُهُ فِي حِجْرِ عَلِيٍّ فَلَمْ يُصَلِّ الْعَصْرَ حَتَّى غَرَبَتْ الشَّمْسُ فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ وَسَلَّمَ صَلَّيْتَ يَا عَلِيُّ قَالَ : لَا فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ وَسَلَّمَ اللَّهُمَّ إنَّهُ كَانَ فِي طَاعَتِك وَطَاعَةِ رَسُولِك فَارْدُدْ عَلَيْهِ الشَّمْسَ قَالَتْ أَسْمَاءُ فَرَأَيْتُهَا غَرَبَتْ ثُمَّ رَأَيْتُهَا طَلَعَتْ بَعْدَ مَا غَرَبَتْ } Translation: Hadrat Asma bint Amays (ra) said: Once revelation was being sent on Prophet of Allah (Peace be upon him) and he was resting his head on the lap of Sayyidna Ali (A.S) and he Ali had not prayed Asr while the sun had set too. The Prophet (Peace be upon him) said: O Ali! Have you prayed? Hadrat Ali (A.S) replied: No. Hearing this, Prophet (Peace be upon him) made this dua: O Allah, he (Ali) was busy in obeying You and your Prophet, so return the sun upon him. Hadrat Asma (ra) said: I saw that Sun had sunken but then it came back again after sunset.[imam at-Tahawi in Mushkil al-Athaar (4/385)] Imam at-Tahawi also narrated another hadith with different chain. حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ الْمُغِيرَةِ ثَنَا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ صَالِحِ بْنِ أَبِي فُدَيْكٍ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ مُوسَى الْمَدَنِيِّ عَنْ عَوْنِ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ عَنْ أُمِّهِ أُمِّ جَعْفَرٍ عَنْ أَسْمَاءَ بِنْتِ عُمَيْسٍ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ وَسَلَّمَ صَلَّى الظُّهْرَ بِالصَّهْبَاءِ ثُمَّ أَرْسَلَ عَلِيًّا - عَلَيْهِ السَّلَامُ - فِي حَاجَتِهِ فَرَجَعَ وَقَدْ صَلَّى النَّبِيُّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ وَسَلَّمَ الْعَصْرَ فَوَضَعَ النَّبِيُّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ وَسَلَّمَ رَأْسَهُ فِي حِجْرِ عَلِيٍّ فَلَمْ يُحَرِّكْهُ حَتَّى غَابَتْ الشَّمْسُ فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ وَسَلَّمَ اللَّهُمَّ إنَّ عَبْدَك عَلِيًّا احْتَبَسَ بِنَفْسِهِ عَلَى نَبِيِّكَ فَرُدَّ عَلَيْهِ شَرْقَهَا قَالَتْ أَسْمَاءُ فَطَلَعَتْ الشَّمْسُ حَتَّى وَقَعَتْ عَلَى الْجِبَالِ وَعَلَى الْأَرْضِ ثُمَّ قَامَ عَلِيٌّ فَتَوَضَّأَ وَصَلَّى الْعَصْرَ ثُمَّ غَابَتْ وَذَلِكَ فِي الصَّهْبَاءِ The chain till Sayyidah Asma bint Amays (ra) is different in this hadith and all Rijaal are also Thiqa. The Tashih of this hadith! These hadiths have been authenticated by Jam al- Ghafeer(overwhelming + leading) Muhaditheen, however Ibn Taymiyyah al-Mujasmi wal Mubtadi and Ibn Jawzi have rejected these hadiths due to their strict attitude on classification of hadith. Ibn Jawzi was extremely strict in science of al-Jarh wa’t Tadeel so he may be excused but Ibn Taymiyyah on the other hand was known for his hardcore hatred for Ahlul Bayt just in opposition of Shi’ites. Now here are the highest ranking Muhadihteen who authenticated this hadith and in front of these legendary Muhaditheen combined together not even Ibn Jawzi (rah) stands a chance let alone Ibn Taymiyyah. Imam Nur ud-din al-Haythami said: رواه كله الطبراني بأسانيد ورجال أحدها رجال الصحيح عن إبراهيم بن حسن وهو ثقة وثقه ابن حبان، وفاطمة بنت علي بن أبي طالب: لم أعرفها. Translation: Imam at-Tabarani (rah) has narrated this hadith with different chains and the Rijaal of one of them are Rijaal of “SAHIH” except Ibrahim bin Hasan who is “THIQA” and Ibn Hibban called him “THIQA” too. As for Fatima bint Ali bin Abi Talib, I do not know her [Majma uz Zawaid (8/525)] As for Fatima bint Ali bin Talib then she was one of the daughters of Sayyidna Ali but not from Sayyidah Fatima. She was sister of Muhammad bin Ali bin al-Hanafiyyah [Tahdhib ul Kamaal (22/396, Narrator # 11550) plus Imam Ibn Hajr al Asqalani (rah) said of her in Taqrib: فاطمة بنت علي بن أبي طالب ، ثقة Translation: Fatima bint Ali bin Abi Talib is “THIQA” [Taqrib ut Tahdhib (2/654), Narrator # 11786] Hence this report is absolutely Sahih with all Rijaal being Thiqa. Imam Jalal ud-din Suyuti said of these hadiths: اخرج ابن مندة وابن شاهين والطبراني بآسانيد بعضها شرط الصحيح Translation: They are narrated by Ibn Mandah, Ibn Shaheen and at-Tabrani and “SOME OF THESE ARE ON THE CRITERIA OF SAHIH” [al-Khasais ul Kubra (2/137)] The great Imam at-Tahawi, Qadhi Iyaadh & Ibn Hajr Imam al-Mughlatai said: The Rijaal of this hadith are “THIQA” [al-Isharata ila Sirat al Mustafa # 140] Imam al-Qadhi Iyadh states after narrating one of these hadiths: قال وهذان الحديثان ثابتان ورواتهما ثقات و حكى الطحاوي أن أحمد بن صالح كان يقول: لا ينبغي لمن يكون سبيله العلم المتخلف عن حفظ حديث أسماء، لأنه من علامات النبوة. Translation: (Imam at-Tahawi –Rahimuhullah) said: Both these hadiths are “PROVEN AND THEY ARE NARRATED BY RELIABLE (THIQA)” narrators Imam at-Tahawi narrates that Ahmed bin Salih (rah) said: It is not worthy for a person who wants to reach knowledge to miss the hadith of Asma (ra) because this hadith is amongst the signs of Prophethood. [Ash-Shifa by Qadhi Iyaadh (1/176)] After such beautiful explanations by legendary Muhaditheen there remains no room for the haters of Mawla Ali (A.S) to doubt this hadith. Imam Badr ud-din Ayni the great Sharih of Bukhari said: وهو حديث متصل ورواته ثقات وإعلال ابن الجوزي هذا الحديث لا يلتفت إليه Translation: This hadith has a “CONTINEOUS CHAIN AND THE NARRATORS ARE THIQA” and no attention should be given towards Ibn Jawzi who found fault in this hadith [umdat ul Qari, Sharh Sahih ul Bukhari (15/43)] Sheikh ul Islam Ibn Hajr al-Asqalani said: وهذا أبلغ في المعجزة وقد أخطأ ابن الجوزي بإيراده له في «الموضوعات» وكذا ابن تيمية في كتاب الرد على الروافض في زعم وضعه والله أعلم Translation: This hadith is Baleegh in category of Prophetic Miracles and “IBN JAWZI DID MISTAKE” to mention it amongst fabricated hadiths, similarly Ibn Taymiyyah also made a mistake (blunder rather) to call it fabricated in his book Radd ala RawafidhFath ul Bari, Sharh Sahih ul Bukhari (6/347)] Imam as-Suyuti wrote a whole book on this The great Hanafi Imam who declared Wahabis as Khawarij i.e. Allama Ibn Abideen ash-Shami said: والحديث صححه الطحاوي وعياض، وأخرجه جماعة منهم الطبراني بسند حسن، وأخطأ من جعله موضوعاً كابن الجوزي، وقواعدنا لا تأباه Translation: This hadith has been authenticated by Imam at-Tahawi, Qadhi Iyaadh and group of other Muhaditheen have narrated it including at-Tabrani who narrated it with“HASAN CHAIN”. Those who considered it Mawdho “HAVE MADE A MISTAKE” like Ibn Jawzi [Hashiya Radd ul Mukhtar (1/389)] Sheikh ul Islam Ibn Hajr al-Makki said in his outstanding and world renowned book written against Shi’ites called “As-Sawaiq ul Muhriqa: وحديث ردها صححه الطحاوي والقاضي في ( الشفاء ) وحسنه شيخ الإسلام ابو زرعة وتبعه غيره ، وردوا على جمع قالوا : أنه موضوع Translation: This hadith has been declared “Sahih” by Imam at-Tahawi, Qadhi Iyadh in his ash-Shifa , Sheikh ul Islam Abu Zura’ declared it “HASAN” and other Muhaditheen have followed them by refuting those who called this hadith as Mawdho [as-Sawaiq ul Muhriqa, Page #161, Dar ul Fikr edition] There are many more Muhaditheen who declared this hadith as “SAHIH OR HASAN” such as Imam al-Qastallani called 2 different hadiths narrated by at-Tabrani as “HASAN” [al-Muwahib al Laduniya (2/529)] Shah Abdul Aziz Muhadith dhelvi said in his legendary book written on refutation of Shi’ites: As for the hadith in regards to returning of sun then many muhaditheen of Ahlus Sunnah have called it Sahih, such as at-Tahawi etc… and this is amongst the miracles of Prophet [Tuhfa Athna Ashriyah, Page # 463] Two fine Muhaditheen i.e. Jalal ud din Suyuti and Ibn Yusuf al Salihi wrote “COMPLETE BOOKS ON THIS TOPIC” and proved returning of Sun for Sayyidna Ali (A.S). Please refer to their respective books called: كشف اللبس فى حديث رد الشمس & مزيل اللبس من حديث رد الشمس Imam Zahir al Kawthari on Ibn Taymiyyah Refutation of Ibn Taymiyya al-Mujasmi wal-Mubtadi who said: قد ذكره طائفة كالطحاوي والقاضي عياض وغيرهما وعدوا ذلك من معجزات النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم لكن المحققون من أهل العلم والمعرفة بالحديث يعلمون أن هذا الحديث كذب موضوع Translation: This hadith has been mentioned by at-Tahawi and Qadhi Iyaadh and they “CONSIDERED IT AMONGST THE MIRACLES OF PROPHET” however the researchers in people of knowledge who have Ma’rifah in hadith knowledge know that it is “A LIE AND FABRICATION” (Naudhobillah) [Manhaj as-Sunnah (8/165)] Ibn Taymiyyah quotes Ibn Jawzi in calling this hadith asMawdho and I have already proven above that mighty Muhaditheen even refuted Ibn Jawzi in this regard and considered his viewpoint as mistaken. The late Muhadith of Arab world i.e. Imam Muhammad Zahid al-Kawthari destroyed the knuckles of Ibn Taymiyyah by saying: فتراه يحكم عليه هذا الحكم القاسي لأنه صحح حديث رد الشمس لعلي كرم الله وجهه. فيكون الاعتراف بصحة هذا الحديث ينافي انحرافه عن علي رضي الله عنه. وتبدو على كلامه آثار بغضه لعلي عليه السلام في كل خطوة من خطوات تحدثه Translation: Don’t you see him (i.e. Ibn Taymiyyah), how he passed a ruling on (Imam at-Tahawi) with his rigid judgment, he did this only because Imam Tahawi authenticated the hadith of Sun being returned for Sayyidna Ali – Karam Allahu Wajahu – the authentication of this hadith contradicted the deviation (hatred) for Ali which he had. The traits of Bughz (hatred) against Sayyidna Ali appear in words of Ibn Taymiyyah rather in every sentence of his. [Hawi fi Sirat at-Tahawi, Page # 27] Ibn Taymiyyah al-Mubtadi did not just stop here, he said: It is “STRANGE” that Qadhi Iyaadh with his great immense and greatness in knowledge of Hadith considerd this hadith to be proven and Rijaal to be Thiqa. Grteat rebuttal by Imam az-Zarqani In reply to this Imam az-Zarqani beautifully said: There is nothing to be amazed in this because the chain of hadith from Asma bint Amays (ra) is “HASAN (FAIR)” similarly the hadith from Abu Huraira also has a “HASAN CHAIN”. Imam Jalal ud-din Suyuti (rah) has explained this in detail (After this az-Zarqani showed the analysis of Imam Suyuti and proven mistake of Ibn Jawzi). It is a principle in science of hadith that a Hasan hadith after meeting another Hasan hadith or having multiple chains “BECOMES SAHIH” so “STRANGNESS UPON STRANGNESS IS ON THE KALAAM OF IBN TAYMIYYAH NOT QADHI IYAADH” because Qadhi Iyaadh’s (authentication) is according to the known principles as is mentioned in books of Hadith principles like “Alfiya tal Hadith li Iraqi” and even junior students of hadith know them (whereas Ibn Taymiyyah is ignorant) [sharh az-Zarqani ala Mawahib al Laduniya (6/488)] So It is clear like bright sun that Sun was returned for the sake of Sayyidna Ali. I would like to conclude this article with the saying of the great Sheikh ul Islam Ibn Hajr al-Asqalani, how he analyzed the book Manhaj as Sunnah by Ibn Taymiyyah: التي يوردها ابن المُطَهّر، وإن كان معظم ذلك من الموضوعات والوَاهِيَاتِ، لكنه رد في رده كثيراً من الأحاديث الجياد التي لم يستحضر حالة التصنيف مظانها؛ لأنه كان لاتساعه في الحِفْظ، يَتَّكِل على ما في صَدْرِهِ، والإنسان عامد للنسيان، وكم من مبالغة لتوهين كلام الرافضي ذاته أحياناً إلى تنقيص علي رضي الله عنه Translation: The reports which Ibn Muthar al-Hilli (Rafidhi Shia) narrated then indeed most of them are fabrications and cooked up (lies) but “IBN TAYMIYYAH EVEN REJECTED THE STRONG (AUTHENTIC) HADITHS” ... Conclusion ...which he did not remember properly while writing his book. Ibn Taymiyyah did such a thing because he used to rely on his chest due to his capacity of memorizing, and It is nature of mankind that he returns towards Nisyaan (forgetfulness). Ibn Taymiyyah went to the long extents in refuting the Ahanaat in sayings of Rafidhi to the extent that “IBN TAYMIYYAH HIMSELF STARTED TO FIND FAULTS IN ALI (A.S) AT CERTAIN PLACES” [Lisaan ul Mizaan (6/390)] This is indeed rightly said by Ibn Hajr al-Asqalani (rah) because Ibn Taymiyyah just in opposition of Shi’ites also rejected the “Mutawattir hadith” which states: For Whosoever I am Mawla then Ali is his Mawla [sunnan Tirmidhi, Hadith # 3713, where Imam Abu Isa Tirmidhi declared it "HASAN SAHIH"] Rejecting Mutawatir hadith is in reality a Kufr! I will discuss the validity and authencity of other hadiths which Ibn Taymiyyah al-Mujasmi al-Nasibi rejected in hatred of Ahlul Bayt. a) The Mutawatir and famous hadith which mentions the great title "MAWLA" for Sayyidna Ali (A.S) Remember rejecting Mutawatir hadith is equivilant to rejecting Qur'an so this was amongst the Kab'air sins committed by Ibn Taymiyyah just to win fame, he forgot that true Sunnis would easily thrash his absurd viewpoints. b ) The Sahih/Hasan hadiths which prove from Ahlus Sunnah texts that Sayyidna Ali (ra) was the first to accept Islam (if not putting the clause of Children and Elders) c) The authenticity of the hadith which states: I am the city of Knowledge and Ali is it's door. In rejecting such hadiths Ibn Taymiyyah crossed all limits and said things like Ali (A.S) had lesser knowledge than other Sahaba who were not even Khulafa ar Rashideen (Naudhobillah) Ibn Hajr's perfect analysis on bn Taymiyyah I am sure the lovers of Ibn Taymiyyah would be biting their nails because It has become clear like bright sun that he deliberately and mockingly rejected the Sahih/Hasan hadiths on merits of Ahlul Bayt and the explanation given by Imam Ibn Hajr al-Asqalani (rah) is so great that It has to be re-read. He said: التي يوردها ابن المُطَهّر، وإن كان معظم ذلك من الموضوعات والوَاهِيَاتِ، لكنه رد في رده كثيراً من الأحاديث الجياد التي لم يستحضر حالة التصنيف مظانها؛ لأنه كان لاتساعه في الحِفْظ، يَتَّكِل على ما في صَدْرِهِ، والإنسان عامد للنسيان، وكم من مبالغة لتوهين كلام الرافضي ذاته أحياناً إلى تنقيص علي رضي الله عنه . Translation: The reports which Ibn Muthar al-Hilli (Rafidhi Shia) narrated then indeed most of them are fabrications and cooked up (lies) but “IBN TAYMIYYAH EVEN REJECTED THE STRONG (AUTHENTIC) HADITHS” which he did not remember properly while writing his book. Ibn Taymiyyah did such a thing because he used to rely on his chest due to his capacity of memorizing, and It is nature of mankind that he returns towards Nisyaan (forgetfulness). Ibn Taymiyyah went to the long extents in refuting the Ahanaat in sayings of Rafidhi to the extent that “IBN TAYMIYYAH HIMSELF STARTED TO FIND FAULTS IN ALI (A.S) AT CERTAIN PLACES” [Lisaan ul Mizaan (6/390)]

(bismillah) I know this is sister's forum, but I thought maybe I could put my 2 cents in... Firstly, mashallah, inshallah Allah blesses your marriage sister and keeps you both protected. Know that as long as your marriage is halal and contracted for the sake of Allah's pleasure as well as completing half your deen and finding compassion within each other, Allah will safeguard your marriage, inshallah. Lebanese families can be....tough to get used to. I know this because I'm Lebanese lol. They do tend to put culture far and wide over Islam, which is absolutely prohibited. For instance, they put a large emphasis on "engagement" and "wedding", when in fact in Sharia, there is only one marriage. People still call me and my wife "engaged", while I will always say we are married, because that is what the 3aqd al qiran is, there is nothing past that per Islam. In any case, there's not much you can do in this case but be as pious and as good a mu'mina as you can be for the sake of Allah. Eventually, inshallah, they should come around and see you no differently, which you aren't. That you are first and foremost a mu'mina, a Muslima, and that's all that matters in the eyes of God. Treat them with compassion, even if they don't reciprocate back. This is harder said than done, but with dua and reflection, Allah will help you in this regard. There's not much else you can really do to change them. I see your signature quote is perfect answer here. "If you understand Allah's Majesty, then you will not attach any importance to the creatures." (wasalam) :)

Thoughts: My sleeping pattern is terrible. Another thought: It is very frustrating when you fantasize all day about how much you are going to eat, but when the time comes, you get full so quickly.

I know who you are FS! :shifty:

Lmaoo stalkeer!! Who are you???

Thought : congratsssssssssssss on getting married officially :P

Thought: alef Bassim oo alef Fali warraanaa! Lmaooo I love Bassim Al Karabalie!

thanksssss for the comments guys :D as long as my post helped at least 1 person (which it did) then I will be happy :D

Yea, its part of the reason a lot of people avoid the politics section. Theres really no interest in talking about things when someone is going to start making vulgar comments about it.

LOL by feminist sisters Waiting for HIM means ImAli, BabyBeaversKit, and OneNoteSong hahahaha. Listen it is not about feminism or anything like that, I am the furthest from a feminist but it is about respect and he is not respecting you. If what you say that he really hasn't married her yet why would he choose such a bad woman to be a co wife (she is bad she is spending the night in a hotel with him). I wouldn't want a polygamous marriage and you are stronger than me for agreeing to stay in one....but don't you think he should at least find one more respectable who will not spend the night in hotels with men?

The dunya

lol, well that's homosexuality and that would probably warrant 5000 years in the inferno.

i wish some members on this forum WOULD smoke some weed, it will chill them out a bit n make them less aggressive on the threads lol

Oh well, it was fun while it lasted :lol:

His argument is very weak, kind of illogical. 1. Some are punished in the world and that compensates for their punishment in hereafter. 2. Some are punished in the hereafter and let go in this world. 3. Some are punished here and there, at both places. 4. Still some who died without punishment, will be raised again, be punished, would die again, and would face punishment again in the hereafter. Different punishments based on infinite wisdom of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì, just like different rewards, different blessing, etc. This is how I would be asking him: 1. Can a cat complain to Allah that why she was not a mouse, and vice versa? 2. Can a White person complain to Allah that why he was not Black? 3. Can a rich complain that why he was not poor and vice versa? I think he got all this Adl concept really wrong. He needs to sit with an enlightened Alim with some irfaan to get his doubts straight.

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the one who takes care of the general matters of muslims or any society for the word sake wali is the gaurdian of sort , the one who uphold responsibility of a group of people ,like a father is wali amr of his children and wife ,wali amr used to refer to any ruler in arabic empires untill mmodern days root of it is the Quraan verse يا ايها الذين امنوا اطيعوا الله واطيعوا الرسول واولي الامر منكم فان تنازعتم في شيء فردوه الى الله والرسول ان كنتم تؤمنون بالله واليوم الاخر ذلك خير واحسن تاويلا O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and those of you who are in authority; and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if ye are (in truth) believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end. other mentions of wali ولا تقتلوا النفس التي حرم الله الا بالحق ومن قتل مظلوما فقد جعلنا لوليه سلطانا فلا يسرف في القتل انه كان منصورا And slay not the life which Allah hath forbidden save with right. Whoso is slain wrongfully, We have given power unto his heir, but let him not commit excess in slaying. Lo! he will be helped. the heir is described as wali of the one who died قالوا تقاسموا بالله لنبيتنه واهله ثم لنقولن لوليه ما شهدنا مهلك اهله وانا لصادقون They said: Swear one to another by Allah that we verily will attack him and his household by night, and afterward we will surely say unto his friend: We witnessed not the destruction of his household. And lo! we are truthtellers. friend = wali تالله لقد ارسلنا الى امم من قبلك فزين لهم الشيطان اعمالهم فهو وليهم اليوم ولهم عذاب اليم By Allah, We verily sent messengers unto the nations before thee, but the devil made their deeds fairseeming unto them. So he is their patron this day, and theirs will be a painful doom. satan their patron = their wali -.- wai amr measn ruler , wf discussion is discussion about the political islam and islamic government -.-

you all need to taste a hot doubles from trinidad (salam)

Actually confining a Masoom Imam to the Ummat would not do justice to his status. The authority of a Masoom Imam is beyond that of the Ummat. He even has control over jinns, animals, plants, etc. Prophet (S) could make stone pebbles speak. And Masoomeen (A) could turn the picture of a lion woven on carpet into a real lion. Why did he use the word Wali e Amr and not Ulul Amr. What would stop him from calling scholars Ulul Amr?????

I personally don't have any problems with these diaspora Iranians. They can practice whatever they want. The only time I will have problems with them is when they try to impose their BS down other people's throats.

I noticed a lot of folks reading The Devil We Know by Robert Baer. Just to let everyone know: - He doesn't know what he's talking about - He doesn't say anything new - He's a tool Inshallah I will go into more detail about this later, but I will cite one example of his words directly conflicting with truth: he says that Shahid Sadr had major ideological differences and that the two did not have a good relationship; that Iran making a lion out of Shahid Sadr after his martyrdom was a work of revisionism. This conflicts with basically perceivable fact:

^^ he doesnt need approval of the wife, and he doesnt even need to mention it to any wife. Sisters remember that jealousy is one of the sunnats of Aisha and Hafsa, and definitely not be in a Mominah. Its the law of Allah (swt) so dont go against it. You might feel that its harmless feeling, but in a deep level its a big sin that you are commiting. And lets be honest, every guy Desires to get married to more then one women, even if you dont like it and the guy claims that he is happy with one (no such thing as love or made for each other in a guys brain). And a guy who claims otherwise needs a slap on his head, its sunnat of Aimah (as) and he needs to control the household not let a woman control him. Husband and wife have different duties in islam, dont soften your husbands with these dumb opinions you have. Remember the kufi men who betrayed the Imam (as) due to their wives. Have taqwa and patience sisters and tell your husbands to become the man of household.

Just some friendly advise. :) On a quiet day (or night), when you and your Mum are there, ask her for a few minutes of her time. Tell her you need some advice. If she says "Yes," you should sit at chairs near a table. Bring a paper and pencil or pen. Say this prayer in your mind (or with thoughts): "I Honor Allah by listening to my Mum. I will write her words of advice to Honor Allah." Tell your Mum: "I made some mistakes. I need your advice. Tell me how to fix it." Then, write down her advice. If she speaks too fast, ask her to speak more slowly so you can write her advice on the paper. Listen to what she says... then, let Allah answer your prayer. If your Mum gives you a long list of mistakes, then repeat the above prayer "I Honor Allah by listening to my Mum." The prayer will help you from getting angry, mad, or upset. What will happen? Your Mum will be surprised. She will not know what to do. What? My daughter is listening to me. WOW. She is writing my words of advice. WOW... that has never happened before. After your Mum has finished talking, tell her: "You have given me a lot of advice. I will read your words carefully and study them." The conversation is over. Read her words of advice when you are alone and have time to think. In the future, if you can complete some of her advice, show her your list of advice, and place a check mark next to the completed item. Your Mum will know you are trying to help. What is actually happening... 1) You are communicating with your Mum (very important). 2) You are identifying problems (described by Mum). 3) You have possible solutions (described by Mum). 4) You are solving "some" of the problems. 5) You get an idea of how many mistakes you are making (from your Mum's viewpoint). Very Important.... You are not responsible for another person's divorce. Have Patience... say the above prayer... listen to your Mum...and see what happens! :) Peace

LOL @ the boiling water Credits to the men - the food industry is actually dominated by you guys and some of the best food I've ever had was cooked by my brother! *claps*

m8, i think "Marry from a thousand" means that a mut'a wife is NOT counted as one from the limit of four women a man can marry. As for the "avoider" bit, I think it means someone who has an urge (sexual), knows about mut'aa being halal, but doing haram things instead.