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(bismillah) When an old man died in the geriatric ward of a nursing home in an Australian country town, it was believed that he had nothing left of any value. Later, when the nurses were going through his meagre possessions, they found this poem. Its quality and content so impressed the staff that copies were made and distributed to every nurse in the hospital. One nurse took her copy to Melbourne. The old man's sole bequest to posterity has since appeared in the Christmas editions of magazines around the country and appearing in mags for Mental Health. A slide presentation has also been made based on his simple, but eloquent, poem. And this old man, with nothing left to give to the world, is now the author of this 'anonymous' poem winging across the Internet. Cranky Old Man What do you see nurses? . . . . .What do you see? What are you thinking . . . . . when you're looking at me? A cranky old man, . . . .. .not very wise, Uncertain of habit .. . . . . . . . with faraway eyes? Who dribbles his food ... . .. . . . . and makes no reply. When you say in a loud voice . . . . .. 'I do wish you'd try!' Who seems not to notice . . . . .the things that you do. And forever is losing . . . . . . . . . . A sock or shoe? Who, resisting or not .. . . . . . . . . . . lets you do as you will, With bathing and feeding . . . . . .The long day to fill? Is that what you're thinking? . . . . . . Is that what you see? Then open your eyes, nurse . . . . . . you're not looking at me. I'll tell you who I am . . . . . . . As I sit here so still, As I do at your bidding, . . . . . . as I eat at your will. I'm a small child of Ten . . . . . . . with a father and mother, Brothers and sisters .. . . . . . . . who love one another A young boy of Sixteen . . . . . with wings on his feet Dreaming that soon now . . . . ... ... . a lover he'll meet A groom soon at Twenty . . . . ... . . my heart gives a leap. Remembering, the vows .. . . . . . that I promised to keep. At Twenty-Five, now . . . . . ... . I have young of my own. Who need me to guide . . . . And a secure happy home. A man of Thirty . . . . . . . . . My young now grown fast, Bound to each other . . . . . . . With ties that should last. At Forty, my young sons .. . . . . have grown and are gone, But my woman is beside me . . . . . . . to see I don't mourn. At Fifty, once more, . . ... . . . ..Babies play 'round my knee, Again, we know children . . . . . . . My loved one and me. Dark days are upon me . . . . . . ... . My wife is now dead. I look at the future ... .. . . . . . . . . . . . I shudder with dread. For my young are all rearing . . . . . . young of their own. And I think of the years . . .. .. . . . And the love that I've known. I'm now an old man . . . . .. . . . and nature is cruel. It's jest to make old age . . . . .. . . look like a fool. The body, it crumbles .. . . . ... . . . . .. grace and vigour, depart. There is now a stone .. . . . . .. . where I once had a heart. But inside this old carcass . . . .. A young man still dwells, And now and again . . . .. . . . my battered heart swells I remember the joys . . . . . . . . . .. . I remember the pain. And I'm loving and living . . . . .. . . . .. . . . . life over again. I think of the years . all too few . . .. . . . gone too fast. And accept the stark fact . . . . . . . . that nothing can last. So open your eyes, people . . . . . . . . open and see. Not a cranky old man . Look closer . . . . see . .. . . .... . ME!! Remember this poem when you next meet an older person who you might brush aside without looking at the young soul within ... . . . we will all, one day, be there, too! PLEASE SHARE THIS POEM, The best and most beautiful things of this world can't be seen or touched. They must be felt by the heart.

if someone claims to be sayed, then treat them as such until they give you reason enough to not believe them. frauds who lie in the name of sayyeda fatima (sa) are exposed almost immediately.

our master ali (as) said that the distance between a lie and the truth is 4 fingers, the distance between your ears and your eyes.

There's nothing in this dunya. Do what you gotta do and get the hell outa here. Akhira's the real abode.

I voted Lebanese. As bland as everyone may think our food is, nothing will ever beat mum's wara2 3enab .. ever :wub: But all those foods are beautiful, each different in their own ways and I don't hate any of them (can't say I've had Jamaican, though :donno:). If I had to pick second, I would go for Iranian food.

[Mod Note: Some links to books and articles have stopped working, so there is an ongoing project to search for a replacement link and make an edit. Thanks for your patience.] Since everyone's been asking for e-books [and articles] on a lot of threads lately, I've decided to put them all in one place. Tawhid Allah - the concept of God in Islam by Yasin T. al-Jibouri [PDF] God and His Attributes by Mujtaba Musavi Lari [PDF] Knowing God by Mujtaba Musavi Lari [PDF] Fundamentals of Knowing God by Reza Berenjkar [PDF] A General Look At Rites* by Muhammad Baqir al-Sadr Justice of God by Naser Makarem Shirazi [PDF] Tradition of Mufaddal [PDF] Hadith of Halila God: An Islamic Perspective by Sa'eed Akhtar Rizvi [PDF] Al-Tawhid and Its Social Implications by Ali Khamene'I [PDF] Divine Justice or The Problem of Evil by Javad Shayvard [PDF] Does God Exist?* Who is the Law-Maker?.doc by Al-Balagh Foundation Does God Exist? by Akramulla Syed Islam and the Shi'ite Creed (Usool al-Deen) Invitation to Islam by Moustafa al-Qazwini [PDF] Discovering Islam by Moustafa al-Qazwini [PDF] Tenets of Islam* by Shaykh Tusi Inner Secrets of the Path* by Haydar Amuli Invitation to Islam: A Survival Guide by Thomas McElwain Islam and Religious Pluralism by Murtadha Mutahhari [PDF] Man and Universe by Murtadha Mutahhari [PDF] Shi'a by Muhammad Husayn Tabataba'I [PDF] An Introduction to Islam by Bashir Hassanali Rahim Islam by Sa'eed Akhtar Rizvi [PDF] Need of Religion* by Sa'eed Akhtar Rizvi [PDF] Inquiries about Islam by Mohammed Jawad Chirri [PDF] Introduction to Islam* by Islamic Humanitarian Service Islamic Doctrine* by Abdul Hussain Muhammad The Revealer, The Messenger, The Message by Muhammad Baqir al-Sadr [PDF] Shi'ism, The Natural Product Of Islam by Muhammad Baqir al-Sadr The Faith of Shi'a Islam by Muhammad Rida al-Muzaffar Faith and Reason* by The Porch of Wisdom Cultural Institution The Children's Book on Islam by Ibrahim Amini Islamic Doctrines Simplified by Al-Balagh Foundation Asl ash-Shi'ah wa usuluha or Origin of Shi'ite Islam and its Principles by Muhammad Husayn Al Kashif'ul Ghita' [PDF] The Roots of Religion by Dar Rah Haqq's Board of Writers The Hereafter- Ma’ad by Dastghaib Shirazi [PDF] Shia-Sunni Dialogue The Shi'ite Apologetics by Reza Husayni Jassab Shi'ism in Sunnism by Muhammad Reza Mudarrisi Yazdi [PDF] Peshawar Nights by Sultanu'l-Wa'izin Shirazi [PDF] Al-Muraja'at by Abd al-Husayn Sharaf al-Din al-Musawi [PDF] Al-Nass Wal-Ijtihad by Abd al-Husayn Sharaf al-Din al-Musawi [PDF] Questions on Jurisprudence by Abd al-Husayn Sharaf al-Din al-Musawi Then I Was Guided by Muhamed al-Tijani al-Samawi [PDF] The Shi'ah are (the real) Ahl al-Sunnah by Muhamed al-Tijani al-Samawi [PDF] To Be With the Truthful by Muhamed al-Tijani al-Samawi [PDF] Ask Those Who Know by Muhamed al-Tijani al-Samawi [PDF] All Solution Are With The Prophet's Progeny by Muhamed al-Tijani al-Samawi Inquiries About Shi'a Islam by Moustafa al-Qazwini Spurious Arguments About The Shia by Abu Talib at-Tabrizi Shi'ite Islam: Orthodoxy or Heterodoxy? by Luis Alberto Vittor [PDF] Wahab'ism and Monotheism by Ali Al-Kurani Al-Amili The Truth About The Shi'ah Ithna-'Asheri Faith by As'ad Wahid al-Qasim Wahhabism by Ja'far Subhani A New Analysis of Wahhabi Doctrines by Muhammad Husayn Ibrahimi Glimpses of Shi'ism in the Musnad of Ibn Hanbal by Dr.. Sayyid Kazim Tabataba'I Shi'ism in Relation to Various Islamic Sects by Abulqasim Gorji Shi'ism: Imamate and Wilayat by Muhammad Rizvi [PDF] The Shi'ites Under Attack by Muhammad Jawad Chirri [PDF] The Twelve Successors by Murtada al-'Askari Mu'tamar 'Ulama' Baghdád or The Conference of Baghdad's Ulema by Muqatil ibn 'Atiyyah Devils Deception of the Nasibi Wahabis Abdul Hakeem Oranu A Strife-free Dialogue (A Step towards Understanding) by Dr. ‘Isam al-‘Imad [PDF] Inter-Religion Dialogue Search for Truth* by S.V. Mir Ahmad Ali [PDF] A Closer Look at Christianity by Mohammed Qasem [PDF] Book Review: Islam and Christianity by Ali Quli Qara'I Book Review: Whose Justice? Which Rationality? by Alasdair MacIntyre by Dr.. Muhammad Legenhausen Islam In The Bible by Thomas McElwain [PDF] The Bible, The Qur'an and Science by Maurice Bucaille Bible Contradictions [PDF] Shi'I beliefs in the Bible by Thomas McElwain [PDF] Women In Islam Versus Women In The Judaeo-Christian Tradition: The Myth & The Reality by Sherif Muhammad Abdel Azeem [PDF] Mary and Jesus in Islam by Yasin T. al-Jibouri Extracts From Correspondence Between A Muslim And A Christian by Sa'eed Akhtar Rizvi [PDF] Prophecies About The Holy Prophet of Islam in Hindu, Christian, Jewish and Parsi Scriptures by Sa'eed Akhtar Rizvi A Closer Look at Christianity by Barbara Brown Converts to Islam by Zainab Islamic History Kitab al Irshad [on Imam Ali al Murtadha (a) ] (Broken Link?) by Shaykh Mufid [on Imam Hasan ibn Ali al Mujtaba (a) ] [PDF] [on Imam Hussain ibn Ali al Shaheed (a)] [PDF] [on Imam Ali ibn al Husayn (a)] [PDF] [on Imam Muhammad ibn Ali al Baqir] [PDF] [on Imam Ja'far ibn Muhammad al Sadiq] [PDF] [on Imam Musa ibn Ja'far al Kadhim] [PDF] [on the martyrdom of Imam Ali ibn Muhammad al Hadi (a)] [PDF] [on Imam Hasan ibn Ali al Askari (a)] [PDF] [on Imam al Asr (ajf)][PDF] Hayat al Quloob Vol.1* Vol.2* Vol.3* by Allama Baaqir Majlisi [Vol 1 - Stories of previous Prophet (pbut), Vol 2 - Stories of Prophet Muhammad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)), Vol 3 - Stories of the AhlulBait [a]) A Restatement of the History of Islam and Muslims by Ali Asgher Razwy [PDF] The Message by Ja'far Subhani [PDF] General Invitation by Ja'far Subhani An Introduction To The Political Upheaval At Medina On The Death Of Muhammad, The Prophet Of Islam* by Muhammad Sultan Mirza [PDF] Fadak in History by Muhammad Baqir al-Sadr [PDF] Story of The Holy Kaba and It's People by S.M.R. Shabbar [PDF] Abdullah Ibn Saba' and Other Myths by Murtada al-'Askari [PDF] History of the Caliphs by Rasul Ja'farian Four Centuries of Influence of Iraqi Shi‘ism on Pre-Safavid Iran by Rasul Ja'fariyan A Glance at Historiography in Shi'ite Culture by Rasul Ja'fariyan History of Shi'ism: From the Advent of Islam up to the End of Minor Occultation by Ghulam-Husayn Muharrami The Origins and Early Development of Shi`a Islam by S.H.M.Jafri Background of the Birth of Islam by Mohammed Hosseini Beheshti [PDF] Prophets of Islam [صلى الله عليه واله وسلم] and Prophethood The Life of Muhammad by Baqir Shareef al-Qurashi [PDF] A Glance at the Life of the Holy Prophet of Islam by Dar Rah Haqq's Board of Writers Beacons of Light by Abu Ali al Fadl ibn al Hasan ibn al Fadl at Tabarsi [PDF] Muhammad and His God Before the Revelation by Hatem Abu Shahba Taharah & 'Ismah of The Prophets, Messengers, Awsiya', And Imams by Hatem Abu Shahba The Life of Muhammad The Prophet by Sa'eed Akhtar Rizvi [PDF] Prophecies About The Holy Prophet of Islam in Hindu, Christian, Jewish and Parsi Scriptures by Sa'eed Akhtar Rizvi [PDF] Prophethood by Sa'eed Akhtar Rizvi [PDF] Muhammad is the Last Prophet by Sa'eed Akhtar Rizvi [PDF] Seal of the Prophets and His Message by Mujtaba Musavi Lari [PDF] The Infallibility of the Prophets in the Qur'an by Muhammad Rizvi [PDF] Muhammad, the Messenger of God: A Brief Biographical Sketch by Muhammad Rizvi Muhammad by Yasin T. al- Jibouri Military Management in the Battles of the Prophet (s) by Muhammad Dhahir Watr Prophet Muhammad S - a Brief Biography by Al-Balagh Foundation The Unschooled Prophet by Murtadha Mutahhari [PDF] Glimpses of the Prophet's Life* by Talip Alp [PDF] About The Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) by Tebyan The Voice of Human Justice by George Jordac [PDF] Prophet Muhammad - a mercy to all creation The Prophet Adam by Abdul-Sahib Al-Hasani Al-'Amili Moses in the Qur'an and Bible by Ali Musa Raza Muhajir The Prophets of Islamby Muhammad Hussain Shamsi The Prophets, their Lives and their Stories by Abdul-Sahib Al-Hasani Al-'amili Allah's She-Camel and the Story of Our Prophet Salih by Kamal Sayyid Acknowledgements: sisters Hameedeh, SpIzo, _Naz and several others. Thank you so much for helping me collect the links. VERSES OF GHADIR.doc Al Hadith al Qudsi.doc Fascinating Discourses of the 14 Infallibles.doc Who is the Law-Maker?.doc

salam, ya ali madad and lanat upon the enemies of the ahlebeyt (as) guys :) heres an exercise for you GCSE Paper in Sociology, unit 1: People and Society, 25th June 2010 http://www.wjec.co.uk/uploads/papers/s10-4511-01.pdf scroll down to page 10, and look at the picture. my personal understanding is: - the plane and the two towers of blocks remind me of 9/11 - the letters of the blocks spell ARMAGEDDON - the paper chain of people represent dead people (around 4000 people died, and there are 4 cut outs) - the pentagon shapes on the ball in the background represent the pentagon bit freaky, no? i doubt its coincidental, but then again i also doubt that there is some sinister new world order agenda being implemented through the image. its just a picture. it doesnt "mean" anything. another example: the "el diablo" (the devil) hand sign guys this is NONSENSE. the devil does NOT look like a goat. this isnt even a christian belief but a later innovation. the christian belief is that the devil is a fallen angel. doing this hand sign does NOT summon the devil doing this hand sign does NOT pledge your allegience to lucifer doing this hand sign does NOT send a message to other luciferians that you are one of them its just a hand sign. another symbol the "one eye and pyramid" symbol there is a really great book called solomons builders that i have at home (it is written by a grand master mason) ill scan some pages tonight insha'Allah basically, the freemasons arent that bad. they are drawing a lot of heat though because well meaning but ill informed people see all the symbolism that they left all over the place, and they use that as proof that the freemasons rule the world and worship the owl god memnoch. i know that this is going to be a controvertial statement, but i dont think that the freemasons are our enemies - they are the enemies of the roman catholic church. the founding fathers were deist, not christian, and they were more interested in escaping the european bankers and church. if i understand this correctly - the founding fathers who wrote the US constitution actually forbade taking over other lands. if you want to place blame on a "global elite" intent on taking over the world, then place it on the neocons, the zionists, the CEOs of the major multinational corporations. there is plenty of proof that they are up to no good. there is a grand total of no proof that the freemasons are behind anything.

their actions. true sayeds cannot hide their nature and their beauty any more than a lit candle can hide its flame

His list of policies are outlined for the most part here -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul I've been trying to find dirt on the guy for a while now, haven't. Add to that, that the last election, he was leading a SMS poll on CNN, and then it was taken off air. The media politically assassinated him. He's actually the only one that constantly reminds the public about the bill of rights and the principles the founding fathers adhered to and the need to return to those principles. Let's put it this way, unless there are some drastic changed in the US soon, it's game over for the empire. The education system needs a major overhaul, the quality of education has spiraled out of control. Heck even Feynman picked up on it 50 years ago and dedicated a whole chapter on the issue in one of his books, and nothing's improved since. Without a solid education system, nothing follows but a generation of fools. China and Russia on the other hand take a totally different approach, they're training generations of doctors, physicists and engineers. The quality of research coming out of those countries is on par with the US, only China has a lot more people. Heck if US astronauts want to go to space, they have to use Russia ships now. NASA was once the jewel of US aviation and engineering excellence. What the hell happened? But that's what you get when glorify Bieber and dedicate many media hours to some guy that twittered crutch shots. Good luck in turning things around.

thoughts....my new avatar kicks ASS B)

I'm continually disappointed in the ham-handed approach to difference of style or opinion in this community.

All of you are RIDICULOUS. This thread was made for congratulating people, not to start some kind of religious debate. If you guys have some kind of issue with Pakistanis remembering the hardships they went through to create the country, then get the hell out. Nobody wants your buzzkill [Edited Out]. Since you guys LOOOOVEEE to criticize every single thing about the country, go do something about it. You guys are just as bad as people who believe Pakistan is the best country and is flawless. Go make some 14 point plan that will fix the dirt politics and execute it rather than sitting on your kya kahoons criticizing everything. I have no idea why Ya Aba came in here. For all of you: "Musalmaan museebat main nahin darta" Late jashan-e-azaadi mubarak to the true paki homeboys.

You are quoting from a commentary of Nehjul balagha by ibn Abi al-Hadid al Mutazili. How is that a shia source? Why don't you quote the entire text? Here it goes: Chapter: Usama's Bayyat After the event of Saqeefa, Umar advised Abu Baqr to write a letter to Usama and tell him to come over to give allegiance as it will help get rid of criticism. Abu Baqr wrote letter as follows: From the caliph (successor) of the Prophet of Allah, Upon receiving my letter, come along with your companions/troops since all muslims are with me and have given allegiance . Don't you try to oppose as you may end up regretting it. In response, Usama wrote as follows: I received your letter but the letter was self contradictory. On one hand you say that you are the caliph of the Prophet of Allah and on the other hand you claim that the muslims have agreed to make you a caliph and are happy about it. Maybe you forgot that me and my companions/troops are also all muslims. By God, we are not happy with your caliphate. Give the right to its owner. Have you ignored and forgotten the will of RasulAllah and the oath taken on the day of Ghadeer? Didn't the Prophet make it incumbent on you and your companions to follow me ? Why did you disobey me and go to Madina without my permission? Don't you agree that the Prophet P.b.u.H did not terminate my authority till the end? Then why are you in Madina without my permission? Abu Baqr was shocked after receiving the letter but Umar encouraged him to remain steadfast and to continue to convince him directly and indirectly (through other muslims) for a greater cause and for the purpose of preventing division amongst muslims. Thus Abu Baqr wrote again and 'reminded' Usama to avoid creating fitna amongst muslims and not to oppose the leaders of the Muslims. After receiving those letters, Usama returned to Madina with his companions and went to Imam Ali's house and asked, "What is this all about?". Imam replied, "It is exactly as you see.". Usama asked, "Have you given given bayyat. Imam replied, "yes". Usama asked, "Did you do it with free will or were you forced?". Imam replied, "I was forced". Then Usama went to Abu Baqr's house and said salams. So did Abu Baqr. Please provide references to show that muslims used to renew allegiances to caliphs (atleast first 4) after every six months. On the day Abu Baqr forcefully took office, Imam Ali was busy arranging the funeral of the Prophet P.b.u.H (His ghusl and burial). Please be mindful of your tone. Reread what I wrote and try to comprehend how frustrating it is for us to tolerate you when you bring similar arguments against us.

haha lool same here. :lol:

You are right, because the mainstream media makes him look like a nut case. They know if he gets elected everything will come crashing down around them (if he isn't assassinated first).

14th August...The day when I was asking someone about bribing WAPDA's meter reader so he won't do OVER BILLING but write the correct units in bill (something all Pakistanis are well aware of), have never bribed anyone before, paid the bill or had it adjusted by using (or rather begging) one contact or another in WAPDA office. Had enough of that - since if you were over billed a year ago, the bill would be 8000 Rupees, now it will be 16000-20000+... Sure, it's better to be living in an independent country but what independence & where when there is ZERO peace of mind, you don't know if you will be alive at end of the day when you go out and those who have sworn to protect you will not mind beating the [Edited Out] out of you or leave you to do die (be it Police or any Armed Forces). Pakistanis living abroad will be out of their minds if they get into "let's move to Pakistan and do something for this mess" trance other than some investments here and there. I remember reading how someone abroad decided to shift one of his factory to Karachi...all the material was shifted to Karachi and till the date of the article, it was all destroyed by rust near Karachi port because of "Government servants". IF I am ever able to get over some things like moving away from my family or the wish to get buried with my ancestors, I will move from this country without ever looking back at it.

^^ MDM, so here's a proposition for you. UK needs some Shia vigilantes. You know, like on Batman Begins, the League of Shadows, destroy corrupt cities like Gotham. So anyways, your mission is to bust up Anjem Choudary. He's an MI5 agent, part of the illusion to destroy Islam. So you have to counter it. You'll need a few things as part of the project. 1. A few guys. Find guys you can trust and share the same vision. Get them to curse as their initiation into the society. 2. You'll need a secret name. Something like, The Innits. 3. Symbols. I'm thinking )o(. Engrave it on your rings. It is 110 (bismillah). But can also be read in arabic. 'ain meem ra. But it also looks like 'something else' which you can look at when ever you feel down and laugh. 4. Grow beards, put hennah. Go tell Choudary you want in, for the sake of Sayyidna Mu'awiya (ra). If anyone sees the ring, be like, oh it means two things, 110 and sayyidna farouq (ra) and they be like, masha'Allah. And you can have a giggle. 5. Figure out some espionage techniques so that he can never be used to dog Muslims and Islam ever again. What say you?!?!?!?!?!

(salam) People are very different. There are some men who are very quiet. They don’t talk much. This doesn’t mean that something is wrong with them. Also, sometimes when the husband comes back from work, they just don’t want to talk much. They just need to be let in peace for a while. Plan a time where both of you can sit down and have a discussion. This doesn’t need to be after work. Maybe on weekend. Is it possible for both of you to plan something together? For e.g like walking in the park? Going somewhere out? Also, you don’t need to have the same conversation every single day. If he is not interested to talk about his day at work, then talk about his favorite topics (i.e., his favorite football team or something). You can also talk to him about the lack of communication in this relationship. But based on what you told us, he may think you are nagging him.

Psssh I would join that site in a second.

I support Deeeeebo for mod. But he should not simply be a chat mod, but universal supreme mod with wilayah mutlaqa over all the other mods.

If you understand everything through the light of Sunni hypocrisy then probably you would think that.

Now, you got it! :yaali: You see, this is what we call innocent mistake. A robot does not make innocent mistakes, don't you think? They did not have enough knowledge of the matter, and therefore made a mistake as a result. It was not deliberate. As for the verse you quoted, it only shows that whenever Allah ORDERS them to do something, they have no free will with regards to His orders, and they always obeys His orders. This is not saying anything about situations where Allah is not ordering them, but discussing with them! Let me ask: would you ever "discuss" with a mindless robot?

Just a quick note, but the above is not from Khomeini unlike what the above copy/paster is claiming. Rather it's from book called al-Fawa'id ar-Radawiyya by Qadi Sa`id al-Qummi (a Safawid era scholar/philosopher) which is itself a commentary on a narration. Khomeini wrote some footnotes on the book (hence why the title says at-Ta`liqa `ala). If he'd even bothered to look at the editor's footnotes in the scan above, he'd also see that it even gives a reference for the quote, which is al-Anwar an-Nu`maniyya (I think by Sayyid Ni`matullah al-Jaza'iri). So really, none of this has anything to do with Khomeini other than being in a book he wrote some footnotes on.

Saima, you are a Sunnee. So, what mind are you making up again? In any case, have you ever asked yourself if this rijaal thing can be applied to the Qur'aan too? Izan, could you please provide a SINGLE Saheeh or Hasan chain for the Qur'aan as per Sunnee rijaal? Actually, the Qur'aan has only one extremely weak chain as per Sunnee rijaal! Sunnee scholars instead claim tawaatur for it, without really bringing the rijaal-tested chains that form together to make it mutawaatir. If rijaal is so unimportant when it comes to the Qur'aan, why do we make so much noise? Secondly, Sunnees grade all the Sahaabah as "trustworthy" when there are in reality terrible liars among them! I exposed two of them in this article http://www.wilayat.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1097:Moin-al-Nasibi-Fails-Again-Concerning-the-Sahabah-%28Part-2%29&catid=71:05-Sahabiat-%28Companionship%29. They are Waleed ibn 'Uqbah and Aboo Hurayrah. I have provided undeniable instances of them both LYING! And I wrote this one too to expose another LIAR among the senior Sahaabah http://www.wilayat.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1504:Mu-tab-ibn-Qushayr-The-Tragedy-of-a-Badr-Warrior-Who-Turned-And-Died-A-Hypocrite&catid=70:05-Biographies-of-Sahaba-General. It is Allaah Himself who has called him a LIAR. So, as you can see, the ROOT of the Sunnee rijaal system is very faulty. How can anything be sensible about it? Finally, who gave people like Yahya ibn Mo'een, Ahmad ibn Hanbal, al-Bukhaaree, and others the authority to judge the reliability of others? NONE! Rijaal as a whole revolves around the contradictory "opinions" of some self-imposed "judges"! May Allaah save us from its evil.

Missing verses does not equal tahreef. Tahreef would be changing the verse, changing it in a way that changes the meaning. What are the ahadith about changing or fabricating verses? The different qira'aat I don't see how is that Tahreef as even with different qira'aat the meaning seem to be the same or similar-such as maliki yawm aldeen as opposed to maaliki yawm aldeen. The order of nuzul also does not equal Tahreef, the verses are still preserved regardless of the order of verses. If there was actual Tahreef, meaning of verses changed to different meaning words, fabricated verses etc then on what can we base our faith, religious laws? How do we know which verses were changed and which were not? It would shake the entire religion -and if so then we should not be held accountable for our actions since we can never tell if what was said to be halal isn't and what was said to be haram isn't.

This is amazing stuff.. thanks for sharing. I will definitely make a chain-mail and send it to all contacts

Its really not rocket science... Crazysb187654321 lol, even though i may not agree with alot of your posts, esp about imminent war in lebanon and so forth, i do agree with you on this, but its kinda old news bro Forget about the grand conspiracy of secret societies being run by cults that are deceived by the dajjal for a second and realize that zukerberg got most of his funding for facebook from the CIA lol... Norton Anti Virus has a loophole in it that lets the FBI access any computer they want. If you REALLLY want to go off radar, just get rid of your internet !!! lol its too easy for them do you think its a coincidence that most laptops come with a fixed webcam on it ? its like placing a camera and bugging device in EVERY house, and tapping into wireless modems is even ten times easier, i can do that myself... Point is, Fink can be a little harsh, even though you seem like your on the verge of having a heart attack in every post, your right with this post, its just old news and common sense Salams

Despair not of the Mercy of Allah, verily Allah forgives ALL sins. Truly, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

fink, the government want access, to peoples convos on bbm? how strange... in my school, my little sister had her finger print scanned, along with the year 7-11s, they can purchase food through this new system, no cash involved, a series of 2 pages long questionaire was asked to be filled out with the finger print, the government want to know what your doing, at any moment in time, and they want evry single piece of info about you. (bismillah)

Subhanallah. If only i had been able to truly take something like this in a few years ago. Thanks for posting, Ali.

I wonder if you yourself really care about 'your sunni syrian community' and are concerned for them or is it that its just a front to veil your racism towards Shias. If its the earlier then I have to be the bearer of the good news that whatever is happening in Syria is happening at a higher level of intellect by the security forces. If going by massmedia's account then in 5 months of challenging the authority of state in a big social unrest only around 2000 people have lost their lives. I would instead shift your humane concerns towards another community thats on the abyss. Taliban and their actions is putting 20 000 000 Afghans on the edge of survival. Whats happening in Afghanistan is happening from a lower level of intellect- its more savage. 20 000 000 > 2000. Either way, you cant logically be genuinely concerned about Syria and mathematically be right at the same time.Hence chop chop towards making Taliban threads..... and if its latter then God help you.

(bismillah)

Fantastic. Why not create a sequel or a prequel of Holocaust cartoons as means of finding out whether Jews could live peacefully in your retarded society and lets see of they fail like moslems. What a twisted logic. Hey I will slap someone close and older to you in the face as means of finding your peaceful nature.... this puts that dude with funny mustache- Hitler, to shame. You could be alot of things along with being a retarded Salafi and at the end that really matters.

In civilized societies officers are considered responsible for the conduct of their men. You are a hardcore nasibi, otherwise you will see the confession in his expression of happiness at the death of Hussain (as)

assalam alykum, honestly from what ive heard Haroon al rashid, is a giant hypcrit, the point of his wars just seem to be for monetary gain not for the good of any kind of islam. He also killed one of the prophets decendents indirectly

Look at your first post, Ya Aba. You waltz into this thread (even though you're not a Pakistani) and then you post a link here about "someone" who mentions "6 reasons" not to celebrate Pakistan's independence day. How insolent of you, brother. Do you know how many people suffered and died to create this country? Do you know what it is like to be a slave? Did your ancestors get their fingers cut off because they could weave the best cloth in the world? Did your just rulers die to traitors who sold themselves for money? Did they enforce a cruel feudal system over you? Did you live atop mountains for years feeding on dried pieces of animal skin in defiance and snipe British dogs? No. You have no idea.

This is the problem with people today. We criticize everyone and every thing that we can criticize. But we never even look at leave alone criticize our own selves. Irrational waste of time. And we are unable to provide or even suggest a solution to anything we criticize. I have a solution. Celebrate this day if you want to, and don't if you don't want to. Simple. So happy independence day to those who did celebrate and prayed for Pakistan. Azazeel (Shaitan) was given the title Iblees when he became hopeless of God's mercy.

(salam) Spotted a bug. The option to change the font size says 8 is the smallest but in actuality it still works on the old numbering system where 8 is actually rather large and 1 is tiny. (wasalam)

Salaam Aleikum, Much better than the previous one (There is only one problem, it has more white elements than before and sometimes it hurts my eyes.) Hope you guys will fix the bugs soon.

in each post,there is a 'like' .

salam va rahmah really good post. the true shia has "hosn al-kholgh" and makes his/her friends and familly and other "mo'menin" happy. being able to make others laughing can be a sign of "ÊæÇÖÚ" and being moody may be ...

ooo I love this! SO TRUE! God wants us to be happy! :)

Subhanallah! wonderful post thankyou greenolive =)

(salam) in the bible there are many things that may agree with islam. For example there is a verse in bible saying that god is one, and that we should not steal, lie, etc now can i say, this means that atleast a portion of the bible is authentic, and that it would add credibility to the authenticity of other parts of the bible which don't deal with things islam has dealt with. i have quoted exactly what you said and just modified it to say the bible i think that there is no point in what you are trying to establish brother wassalam

adailton (aka Against Oneself), pretending to be what he isn't in order to make others look bad as he continues on his one man quest against the Shirazi scholars... Whatever dude.

(bismillah) اللهم صل على محمد وآله الطاهرين (salam) This is simply a message to all Mu’mineen and Mu’minaat who participate in the Sunni-Shi`ah Dialogue of the forum. This specific forum used to be filled with good, intellectual conversations that would actually lead somewhere. Unfortunately many of those members have moved on (you know…to real life…). Recently, and by that I mean for several months, I’m all I’m seeing from my Shi’i Brothers and Sisters is “attacking” Sunnism and always trying to go prove something to Sunnis through use of their literature. Forgive me, but this is futile. These topics and posts don’t go anywhere. It is not our job to try to go and try to convert everyone who’s Sunni and happens to join the forum. Honestly, I believe it is more of a deterrent. Please, no more topics where are trying to prove something to someone. We honestly shouldn’t be the ones starting topics in this section. If a Sunni brother or sister happens to have a question, then we will answer it – correctly – Insha’Allah. If they try to disprove us using our literature, we will respond to them, insha’Allah. Our faith and belief in Wilayah, Imamah, that set apart from others is not based in Sunnism being wrong. This faith stands on its own from its pillars – the Ahlulbayt (as). I think it is unfortunate that many Mu’mineen’s imaan is based in Sunnism being wrong (honestly no offense intended to Sunnis) than just Shi’ah Islam being correct. We need to move on from this and know our own books, beliefs, history, fiqh. The liveliest and most active part of the forums should be the Shi’ah specific ones…not this one. If a curious non-Shi`ah comes in wanting to learn, insha’Allah we will help guide him to truth. If ignorant ones wander in here exposing their manifest traits, we will kindly direct him towards the door while answering his questions from the correct source (i.e. our books) because those are the books that really matter. If a Sunni, or perhaps those in between seeking haqq, want to know if we can show them things from Sunni books that push in the direction of the Imami creed, we will show them. However, they are not the basis of our creed or our imaan or why we are Shi’ah. So please, Ya Ayyuha al-Adheena Aamanoo, let this be a place to respond to questions and inquiries from others and to explain our creed to them. الحمد لله رب العالمين وصلى الله على سيدنا محمد وعلى اهل بيته المعصومين والمهديين

(salam) well , it can be tomorrow or in 10000 years ,it doesn't matter , our duty is to be good muslims every day . We don't have to start being religious , only because we see signs of the Duhoor of the Imam , it would make us hypocrites . And if we wish to be from his companions ,we can always work on it and we will be raised from our graves when he reappears inshAllah.

He is not a Sunni, who are our brothers in Islam and unity. He is a Wahhabi cum Missionary disgusted in Taqiyyah as Shia.