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    • ورأي الزيدية أن كل عالم فاطمي يقوم بالسيف ويدعو لنفسه، فهو واجب الطاعة وهو إمام الزمان. (The Zaydiyyah held that every Fatimid scholar rises with the sword and calls for himself, so he is obligated to obey and he is the Imam of the time.) Interestingly, this is not the case with the Imamate of Imam Ali (عليه السلام), the very first Imam.  Since it is said that "every Fatimid عالم", that means the عالم must be the inheritor of the knowledge of Imam Ali (عليه السلام) and Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).  It is not the case with the Imams of zaidiyyah. Their Imams are not the "inheritors of knowledge".  Interestingly, in hadith e thaqalayn where Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) has mentioned the key attributes for knowing who is the عترتي اهلبيتي. And there is no mention of these conditions invented by Zaidi's i.e., rises with sword & calls for himself etc. What is mentioned as key attribute in hadith al-thaqalayn is the knowledge العلم.  ولا تعلموهم فإنهم أعلم منكم (And do not teach them, for they know more than you) روى إمام الزيدية عبدالله بن حمزة الملقب المنصور بالله ( ت 614هـ) ما يؤكد صحة هذا اللفظ، قال : (… عن عطية، عن أبي سعيد، قال: قال النبي صَلَّى الله عَلَيْهِ وآله وَسَلَّم: ((لا تعلّموا أهل بيتي فهم أعلم منكم، ولا تشتموهم فتضلوا) الشافي، ج1 ص154 ، والحديث مروي في الأمالي الخميسية للشجري، الحديث السادس، ص 156 This is further strengthened by this: ثم يؤكد عالم الزيدية مجد الدين المؤيدي صحة هذا اللفظ بعد أن ذهب لتواتر حديث الثقلين، قال : ( وفيه: لا تقدموهما فتهلكوا، ولا تقصروا عنهما فتهلكوا، ولا تعلموهم فإنهم أعلم منكم ) لوامع الأنوار ج1 ص 50 The increase here is the bolded part which says "Do not advance them, lest you perish, and do not fall short of them, lest you perish".  It can be proved that the imams of the Zaydiyyah have gained knowledge from the Mu’tazila men, their theologians, some of the Imamis and the Hanafis, while the wording of the hadith of the Thaqalayn states that the imams of the family who do not separate from the Qur’an are more knowledgeable than others, and the Prophet forbade the others from teaching them by saying: ولا تعلموهم فإنهم أعلم منكم If the imams of the Zaydiyyah were more knowledgeable than the twelver Imams, then there would be no reason for disagreement between the two sects. So it must be bravely admitted that the description of the Prophet to his family by saying (and do not teach them, for they are more knowledgeable than you) does not apply to the imams of Zaydiyyah. Wassalam!!
    • By the way, this is questions about Zaidi beliefs, so please refrain from rudely answering on our behalf with twelver Hadiths. If I were to do the same on your threads I am sure I would get banned. Heck, I am sharing your hadiths on your threads and still suffer the risk of being banned lol.
    • The needy man has not visited Imam Husssin (عليه السلام) at all because  he has not wanted to disturb Imam Hussain  (عليه السلام) in Itikaf also on the other hand Imam Hasan (عليه السلام) told the last part to the needy man not Imam  Hussain (عليه السلام)while Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) The needy man  have not met each other at all.  
    • Salam Imam Hasan (عليه السلام) has been poisoned  many times by order of cursed Muawiah  (la) before poisoning  by his wife but when has been poisoned  by his wife he said that I won't survive from poisoning  this time .
    • We believe that the 12 Imams, well 11 since the 12th isn't born yet, were all Zaydis. Therefore, there is no differentiation between their framework/understanding and ours. All descendants of Fatema عليها السلام are from the progeny, only those who meet the conditions of imamate are Imams of Ahlulbayt who one can follow.
    • Thank you for proving the point we were trying to make, which is:  
    • https://www.facebook.com/100040752275045/videos/1159164804559916  
    • In original hadith the needy man when see that Imam Hussain  is in state of Itikaf so due to not disurbing of Imam Hussai (عليه السلام)  he has not asked any help from him which at end of narration when they have passed from mosque where Imam Hussain (عليه السلام) has been in Itikaf ,Imam Hasan (عليه السلام) asked from needy man "Why you have not asked help from my brother so the needy man has replied that ImI didn't  want to disturb Imam Hussain  (عليه السلام) when he was in Itikaf then   Imam Hasan(عليه السلام) Said " IF he helped you , It would been better for him  than doing Itikaf for one month" https://www.mehrnews.com/news/4876488/ثواب-بدل-های-اعتکاف-در-شرایط-کنونی-بیش-از-اعتکاف-است    
    • Thank you for your response. I was just wondering if according to Zaidis this infallible consensus also applied to the Imams of Twelvers and Zaidis after Imam Hussain (عليه السلام)?  Also, the understanding of Twelvers is that Ahlul Bayt (عليهم السلام) are the people of the cloak + the 9 remaining Imams (عليهم السلام). Who are Ahlul Bayt according to Zaidis? Ahlul Kisa (عليهم السلام) + the descendants of Fatima (عليه السلام) who meet the preconditions of Imamate?
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