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Atheism/Other Religions
Discuss atheism, non-Abrahamic faiths (Buddhism, Hinduism, etc), and other religious/spiritual philosophies.
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He talked to Moses on the Mountain. Why can’t he talk to us like that?
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Assalamu alaikum wa Rahmatullahi Ta'ala wa Barkatuh, Dear brothers and sisters, Ramadan Kareem,and hope that all of you are having a fulfilling Ramadan, So without any further ado, let me come to the point- One of our arguments is that due to the universe having an order and design to it (and by implication, an argument for the existence of God), the universe having emerged out of random series of events-given its meticulous orderliness- is so highly improbable that it is almost impossible. But the atheists can argue back that what is improbable is not always impossible. To give a (somewhat off- colour) example (please excuse me for this), some birth c…
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Salaam. I need some learned member of this forum to reply to this video by a sikh about the halal meat.
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Salaam / Hi, What, in your belief, is the nature of God? Please also explain why you believe this is so. Do you believe in (note: they may not be mutually exclusive): Pantheism: everything is part of God who encompasses all things. Panentheism: God is everywhere, but at the same time transcends all things. The universe could be seen as a manifestation of God (like the sun and its rays, or the ocean and the waves of the ocean or like clothing and individual threads...). Other forms of panentheism may assert that the universe is contained within God. Personal God: personal in the sense one could have a relationship with Him, characterised with…
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al-Salaam Alaikum, Years ago I read a hadith by the prophet ()(صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) saying that we should seek knowledge all the way to China. I took it seriously and have ever since been delving into eastern philosophies that I find complementing the Abrahamic religious materials we have. After studying and practicing Daoism, I realized that this religion teaches the keys to basic creation. in a nutshell: 1 -First there was God alone (beyond description) - just as God created all humans from one self, and all creations from one element - water. That's the way/sunnah/dao of Allah 2 -Then there was a primordial 'mess' 3 -then duality came…
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Dawkins has faith in science and says that we will eventually figure out the Hard Problem of Consciousness by science. Chopra says that it is not within the domain of science to figure out consciousness as one uses consciousness to do science.
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What made you lose faith? Do you ever feel guilt or regret? And is there anything that could bring your faith back?
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Hello. I am a muslim in my eraly 20s and recently I have been bombarded with problems with my personal life more than ever before. I have made dua for a spesific thing for many years. If I get it, I will be able to help others through it as well. However, today, again, I didn't get it and it got me thinking really deep - does God really listen to our duas? I don't know what to do or should I even do anything. I can't understand why doesn't He accept my duas if I want to help others. I have tried many duas and tasbeeh and I also recite Ziarat Ashura daily but still nothing works. I have lost faith in duas a long time ago but thought for i little while why not try them agai…
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Pontifical/Traditional Man vs Promethean/Modern Man “The concept of man as the pontiff, pontifex, or bridge between Heaven and earth, which is the traditional view of the anthropos, lies at the antipode of the modern conception of man, which envisages him as the Promethean earthly creature who has rebelled against Heaven and tried to appropriate the role of the Divinity for himself. Pontifical man, who, in the sense used here, is none other than traditional man, lives in a world which has both an Origin and a Center. He lives in full awareness of the Origin which contains his own perfection and whose primordial purity and wholeness he seeks to emulate, recapture, and…
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How to reply to this? Please I am lost.
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Bit of a Rant: Not saying that's the case for people here. I know for myself, when I was an atheist (and later a deist), I was so just because I didn't think God existed or that if He did, there wouldn't be revelations and prophecies and so forth. Yet most people I've met IRL and see online that leave Islam do so for incredible superficial reasons. They leave because Islam looks pretty bad to most outsiders, and they want to be at the kool kids table. So everyone has this kind of internalized islamophobia. They adopt belief systems and philosophies that are more palatable depending where in the world they live in, or what particular culture they fetishize (pri…
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From a recent blog post: "If God created everything, who created God? –> If I’m driving a car, who is driving me? We’re all atheists about 10’s of thousands of gods out there. Atheists just take it one god further. –> we’re all vegan when it comes to most meat. Vegans just take it once step further. God says everyone has to worship him for all eternity. What kind of self-centered egomaniac demands that? –> Parents demand that children don’t stick forks into electrical sockets. What kind of egomaniac demands control of their kids like that? What happens to the billions of people who never even hear of your path to salvation? How is…
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We know all the phenomenon in this world is based on cause and effect principle. Even it seems hereafter is based on this . So does it mean Allahs hand is not directly involved, but it is His principles of cause and effect principle in play everywhere .
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From my latest blog post: http://themuslimtheist.com/the-purple-skeptic-community/ بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم" Imagine you lived in a world where half the population was colour blind to the colour purple. You are one of the people who can see the colour purple. Imagine, then, that among the colourblind half of the population, they began a “skeptic community” about whether the colour purple actually exists, or whether purple-believer half of the population was simply delusional – imagining things, making things up, asserting the existence of a colour for which no scientific or objective evidence could be produced. You might think that it would be easy to …
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Salam anyone know if any good atheist or non Muslim forums to join. Somewhere where open discourse or debate is encouraged.
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In recent years we’ve seen the western political attacks on Iran morph into attacks on Shiaism. Most vivid of these attacks has been the sanctioning of the Imam Ali Reza Shrine and the banning of Al Mustafa International University graduates and even unaffiliated Shia speakers. In addition American Shias have been convicted of crimes for collecting Khums donations for those suffering from famine in Yemen. This unprecedented attack have grown from targeting Iran to targeting the institution of Shi'ism. The western media has adopted tactics which have historically been utilized by takfiri to rile up simple villagers against Shias. The propaganda is akin to the unbelievable …
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Do you believe that God waited to existentiate creation / the universe or do you believe that God was always creating / existentialist creation? If we held the former view then we may have to say God waited “∞-13.77 billion years” to create the universe. I am more inclined to believe the latter but doesn’t Shiite theology entail the beginning of a creation called the Nur (Light) of Muhammad as the first creation. So I’m not sure how this view of eternal existentiation would hold unless I say the Light of Muhammad is being created this very moment. Some Sufis and philosophers (like Ibn Sina) held the view there was no beginning to creation. According to a website…
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@Haji 2003and Mods: This video pushes on the envelope of S.C.'s guidelines as follows: --several seconds of under-dressed people (almost all women -with most of their "brains" showing), and one second of the Unicult gurl nearly topless. Because these groups 'sell sex'. There is nothing obscene, foul-mouthed or otherwise socially objectionable in the photographic aspects of this video report from DeutscheWelle. Prefacing Comment: While this is sad at one level, we really cannot do anything but laugh. As l have posted before, as my father used to cursively say, "You will never cease to be amazed at how ____ damn stupid people can be." When the "new age" …
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Did / do all hominid species worship a deity? It is said that Neanderthals worshipped animals: It is said chimpanzees may have religious rites as well: Did religion always exist or was it created after humans evolved better brains 5220 years ago?
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Arguments for God's existence.
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Having fallen in love with a person that I care so much about that they are only the person I worry about when reading about hell fire, I've been able to simplify arguments that I presented in a very complicated way to Atheists over the years. Perhaps, my love for her, will cause me able to communicate the proofs for God, his Messengers and in particular the family of Taha and Yaseen and the majestic reminder linked to their holy souls, in a way, that people can understand, because I really want her to understand and believe. Anyways, here is a recent version I've presented to her of an argument I use to write walls of text to emphasize on but have been able to simpl…
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I encountered this meme on facebook and decided to give it a full response See full response here: http://themuslimtheist.com/how-to-respond-to-the-muslims-are-obsessed-with-sex-argument/
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Salaam An atheist was arguing that if you believe in free will, then God cannot have been the first cause because then all of your actions are determined by previous actions in an unbroken chain from God's first action. He went on to say that it must be possible for some effects/events to happen without a cause otherwise you would just be following a pre-determined path set in motion by God without any free will or chance/randomness. The second part of his argument obviously violates the principle of casaulty (i.e. that every event exists through virtue of a cause and an effect is not separate from its cause) but I have no answer to the first part. Any help on thi…
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This series of articles will highlight and elaborate the sundry points of concurrence shared by Dharmic wisdom and Islamic wisdom. In Qur’an we read: “For every nation/community there has been a guide” {Qur’an 13:7} “And verily, We have sent among every community a messenger” {Qur’an 16:36} The two verses substantiate that the Primordial Divine Guidance has been present in each and every epoch. When metaphysical elements found in the corpus of Hinduism are objectively analyzed then it is not abstruse for any objective reader to decipher that Dharmic wisdom is the derivative of the very same Primordial Divine Guidance that has been manifested in every …
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Hey guys, so I was wondering if there are any Muslims here that can honestly and sincerely say that they would still worship God if they were granted immortal lives on this earth, and if they were were not inflicted with sickness, old age, weakness, suffering, poverty and hunger. By worship, I mean, would you still follow God’s commandments and prohibitions etc etc. Because I, as a proud Atheist, cannot honestly imagine why anyone would worship a God if there was no Hell consequence and if everything already is like a virtual paradise. Just be honest with yourself before replying. Be a bit introspective and then reply please. Thank you!!!!
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I was reading about our diverse languages and came across an interesting comment, though I'd share. "Most humans have developed an ability to communicate through oral language. By age four to six or seven, most humans can comprehend, as well as express, written thoughts. These unique abilities of communicating through a native language clearly separate humans from all animals. The obvious question then arises, where did we obtain this distinctive trait? Organic evolution has proven unable to elucidate the origin of language and communication. Knowing how beneficial this ability is to humans, one would wonder why this skill has not evolved in other species. Mat…
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My advise, if may not be ok to you. But, you are as a person "seeking heaven", it may help.. Light up a candle and put your finger on that small burning fire. What will happen to your finger? It that can be painful experience right? After 2 minutes on the burning candle and what will happen to your finger? How about after days or years and you cannot remove your finger? Now imagine that is not your finger, but your own..... Do you like this event to happen to you in the future? If you want to avoid the above then love Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) by 1. Fasting and seeking His help to give you strength to overcome the sexual drive. Fasting teaches us effective way to control the physical and mental drives, in particular the drive for sexual and food. It also teaches us to lean on Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) instructions than to control our own physical needs. 2. Get married (permanent or temporary) with decent woman. Both 1 and 2 are not easy because all of us will be tested. Try your best. However, avoid the burning candle because that option will make us regret that we wish we will go back to the world and chose option 1 or option 2. May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) guide us all and accept our repentance. Doa Juasyan Kabir teaches us to ask Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) for His Protection from that burning candle... Wallahualam. -
What's the sanad in قرب الاسناد? Since the original narration comes from that book. Is there another narration that directly contradict s this narration? Are there saheeh narrations that contradict this mawthaq narration on tathweeb? More importantly, do these three narrations "180 degrees" contradict the Qur'an? Are they asking us to blindly accept everything in their books? We can trust people and still read their books carefully and critically. Researches of Rijal scientists. Do you not accept them as scientists? Do you assume that they made such claims carelessly and without research? Present alternative theories that answer more questions and present less problems. Bring something better and stronger than what we have in place now. You can't and shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water. If the current system has problems, find solutions to those problems. If the system is flawed, present better alternatives. We can say ilm al-rijal has problems. Sure. What we can't do is throw it all out because of those problems. It is the best option that we have at this point. It keeps us grounded and safe (to a degree) from following our own wishes and desires. -
Salam. May your dear aunt recover soon and return back to your family. InShaAllah.
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