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Shia/Sunni Dialogue
Discuss issues between the Shi'a and Sunni schools of thought.
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The below video says Ibn Arabi referred to himself as Khatm ul Awliya (The Seal of The [Muhammadan] Saints). Does this concept exist in Shi’a or Sunni Islam? Can anyone other than Imam Mahdi (عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) inherit from the knowledge of Rasulullah (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)? I have heard Ibn Arabi believed in Imam Mahdi (عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف). In William Chittick’s book Ibn 'Arabi: Heir to the Prophets (1943), he describes the concept as follows: I know some very controversial and daring comments are attributed to Ibn Arabi. Regardless, I hope everyone sticks to the topic and focuses on the question rather than calling him “Sheikh…
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Salaam and Ramadan Kareem, Please read my detailed analysis in the link below, on the topic of Abu Bakr in the cave, as addressed by the Quran in 9:40. https://myunderstandingofislam.blogspot.com/2021/04/quran-940-abu-bakr-in-cave.html Inshallah this will be a lively and fruitful discussion. Best wishes, Ahmed.
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Salam a Sunni asked me why don't u Shias pray like us like the prophet Muhammad I was like uhhh... mmmm what shall i say she said what's about this Shia Shia way why not pray like the prophet peace be upon him and she said we Sunnis follow the prophet more than Shias that follow the imams she said the Quran says follow the prophet more times than it says the imams and that Sunnis focus on Allah more can someone plz give me an answer so that I can give her my answer and I also want to know why thank u
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Al Salam Aleikum, I was wondering if we have narrations (shia narrations) about if Ahlul Bayt always combined their prayers or if they did it on occasions, if they always prayed Singula Prayers or They mostly prayed combined. Also is the Shia Prayer timings such as asr prayer same timing as shias? Would be grateful for any answer
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Why did imam Ali (عليه السلام) accuse Abu sufyan of igniting “fitnah” among the Muslims for his attempt to grant him victory? How is granting the imam victory considered “fitnah”? And how is it that Fatima (عليه السلام) said those who consider her cause a fitnah are hell dwellers in her fadak sermon? Yet imam ali (عليه السلام) considers overthrowing Abu bakr as “fitnah”? We know he was ordered to observe patience if he couldn’t find 40 soldiers, otherwise he would have fought, as he did in jamal/siffin, and here Abu sufyan offered them on a golden platter; why didn’t he take it? And so what if Abu sufyan is just a hypocrite with bad intentions, the prophet ((صلى الله عليه…
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as-salaamu alaikum, Sunni brothers and sisters, do you think it appropriate for Umar to have threaten to burn down the house of Imam Ali (عليه السلام) and Fatima (SA)? “…Abu Bakr questioned about those who had refused to pay allegiance to him and had gathered near Ali like Abbas, Zubair and Sa’d Ibn Ubaadah, who were sitting in the house of Fatimah, refusing to pay allegiance. Abu Bakr dispatched Umar Ibn Khattaab to them. Umar went to the house of Fatimah and screamed (inviting them to come out of the house to pay allegiance). They refused to come out of the house. At this juncture, Umar called for firewood and said, ‘I swear by the One in whose hand is Umar’s…
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Why do shias and sunnis even exist, we are all muslims?
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Why do we argue shia, sunni, this that e.t.c yes i know the story of ali ibn talib (رضي الله عنه), but Ali (رضي الله عنه) loved all of his ummah and if he was alive to this day, do you think he would support the shia movement?? The Truth is with Allah , why do we bicker like wild animals over history when neither of us can prove it true. The Truth is with Allah and we should all follow the one and only islam and the sunnah of nabi Muhmmad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) or do shias reject the sunnah of our nabi? personally i'm only here because i've been studying shia and it doesn't make sense for shia to do what their doing, if we keep going like this we will end u…
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No grounds in Shi'a Islam? 1 2
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Why are the Shi'a not able to ground any of their claims with regards to Islam? As an outsider, it is very odd to see that these people claim to follow people whom are put on such a pedestal, but they are doing the complete opposite of them. An example of this is cursing - this is what is considered innovation, which is reprehensible and the repentance of one who innovates is not accepted (correct me if I'm wrong). Ali ibn Abi Talib, Fatimah, Ibn Abbas, Hassan, Hussein, Ja'far ibn Abi Talib, etc. and none of them cursed the revered Sunni figures of Abu Bakr, Omar, Othman, Aisha, Hafsa, and the likes of them. This is one of many things I have an issue with. This is ve…
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what are the main aqidah differences?
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Is seeking help from Ahlulbayt obligatory or optional? 1 2
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Salam Observing how the world operates, we ask God for sustenance, but we still have to work and seek livelihood. God is the provider but we still have to ask his people to farm and have a system emplace that ensures wealth and food distribution. If we get physically sick, we have to seek medical advice from the right sources. My understanding, for guidance, however, we have to seek God and only God's help. But the context of what seeking God's help and relying on him is in context of the light of God. God emanates his light but this is also not directly. The context of relying on God and his guidance is linked to believing in Nubuwa and Reslaah and …
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as-salaamu alaikum, I came across a site that had an article in which it is alleged that Zaydi scholars accept Tarawih prayers. Zayd bin ‘Ali narrated on the authority of his father —his grandfather— ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib, upon him be peace, that he commanded that the one who stands in prayer with the people during Ramadan and pray 20 units should give the final salutations after every two units. He should take a break (yaraawah) after four units so one could relieve oneself and repeat the ritual ablution. He should pray the odd prayer (witr) at the last part of the night while leaving. [Musnad Zayd, 2:423, the hadith is authentic and included in a book of co…
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"Al-Kāfi" - Volume 2 - Roots of Disbelief Hadith 1 الْحُسَيْنُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ إِسْحَاقَ عَنْ بَكْرِ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ عَنْ أَبِي بَصِيرٍ قَالَ قَالَ أَبُو عَبْدِ الله (عَلَيهِ السَّلام) أُصُولُ الْكُفْرِ ثَلاثَةٌ الْحِرْصُ وَالإسْتِكْبَارُ وَالْحَسَدُ فَأَمَّا الْحِرْصُ فَإِنَّ آدَمَ (عَلَيهِ السَّلام) حِينَ نُهِيَ عَنِ الشَّجَرَةِ حَمَلَهُ الْحِرْصُ عَلَى أَنْ أَكَلَ مِنْهَا وَأَمَّا الإسْتِكْبَارُ فَإِبْلِيسُ حَيْثُ أُمِرَ بِالسُّجُودِ لآِدَمَ فَأَبَى وَأَمَّا الْحَسَدُ فَابْنَا آدَمَ حَيْثُ قَتَلَ أَحَدُهُمَا صَاحِبَهُ. Al-Husayn ibn Muhammad has narrated from Ahmad ibn Ishaq from Bakr ibn Muhammad from abu Basir who has said the following:…
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Sadl(open hands) vs qabd(folding hands), I recently started researching on folding hands in prayer and I really do not understand why it is so unclear, did the prophet pray with open or closed hands. If we ask any shia scholar they will say that folding hands is bida' invented by the second caliph(some say the ummayads) But what kind of evidence is there for this. There are no reports in sunni books that would say that qabd is bidah and there are no strong reports from the imams that talk about this. This site shows why all of these shia hadiths where the imams say that folding hands is prohibited are false and weak: https://shiarefor…
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as-salaamu alaikum, I have been flirting with Zaidi shia since a old high school friend of mine (a revert also) started telling me about the path. I purchased 'The Establishment of Clear Exposition: A Commentary On Al-Hadi's "The Fundamentals of the Religion"' by The Imam Rassi Society. This book is a good introduction to the aqidah of the Zaidi. I must say there are many concepts I do like of the Zaidi over these months of studying. Anyways to get to my question. I have noticed that Zaidi's do indeed accept infalibility of the '5' alaihum salam, but they do not accept infalibility after that. When it comes to Prophets (alaihum salam) they believe that they ar…
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Assalamualaikum, I have a question about background music being used in various Islamic videos I’ve seen on YouTube. I know both sunni and shia channels are doing this, however I have seen it occur on a lot more videos made by shia’s (particularly Ahlulbayt TV) which host many respected speakers I.e Moustafa Qazwini etc. My question is, do shia believe this use of music is permissible? (I am referring to musical instruments such as piano, violin etc being used in the background). I am aware that this may allow the video to be more emotional and allow the message to touch the viewers more deeply, however does that make it permissible? PS - At first I thou…
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Salaam, In this post, I do not intend to offend anyone, or cause any dispute/fitnah between Muslims. This is just a hypothetical view and discussion of how this Ummah would be different if Shias were the majority. Imagine if suddenly 90% of Muslims were Shia, and only 10% were non-Shia (Sunni, Salafi, Sufi, Ibadi, etc...), instead of it being the other way around like it is in the actual reality. How would this change the Ummah, and eventually the world ? Here are some points I think would happen (I repeat, I don't want to offend anyone!): 1. All the destroyed cemeteries in Saudi Arabia (Jannatul Baqi, Jannatul Mualla and others) would be rebuilt, with beau…
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Salam. Somebody just showed me his video, complaining about the extremism of both sunnis and shias. He was giving a few examples from ghulat amongst the shia and wahhabi amongst sunnis. The clip was informative and teaching. But before I share it with friends and on websites, could you tell me about his political views? Is he a pro wilayat al faqih? Iran and resistance front. I hope so. Thanks.
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Salaam everyone I've had a long discussion with a sunni friend about when to break the fast. He claims night/Layl starts at maghrib and is part of the Layl. So we can break our fast immediately at sunset. I went through the Quran verses that make a distinction between Layl and Maghrib. Making them not synonyms. But then he points to the following Hadith. Is anyone familiar with these Hadith and how to methodically disprove his point. [10/04, 19:57] 3 Mohamed Arba: The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “When the night comes from here and the day departs from here, and the sun sets, then it is time for the fasting pe…
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Here's the video: What do you guys think about it ? Do you think it was a succesfull attempt at presenting the theme with a neutral point of view ?
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legitimacy of Abu Bakr's Caliphate from the Quran
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Check out this video about the legitimacy of Abu Bakr's Caliphate from the Quran: https://youtu.be/Zaji5uAp4Zk
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Salam. I was watching this TV program called سمت خدا Samt-e Khoda (the city of God), the most watched show in Iran, which interviews with scholars every week. The episode I saw was with Dr. Raefi in Fatima Masumeh Shrine https://www.telewebion.com/episode/2526872 Dr. Raefi says; if you ask (Iranian) people in the street, you will see that they won't be able to name more than twenty companions of the Prophet. This is sad. So, I will talk about companions of the Prophet in this series. And then he talks about Abu Ayyoub Al-Ansari. And he says there are not many books in Persian written by Iranian scholars about the companions, except a few. He menti…
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Bismillah, The following is an excerpt form the book: 'Wahabism and Monotheism' By Ali-Kurani Al-Amili pg 77-78. Bin Baz's Al-Fatawi, Part 4 page 131: Interpretation of the divine attributes is deniable. It is obligatory to accept the divine attributes as they are in their extrinsic aspects that are becoming Allah, the Exalted, apart from any sort of distortion, circumvention, rearrangement or representation. This course was adopted by scholars among the Prophet's (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) companions and their successors such as Al-Awzai, At-Thawri, Malike- Abu Haneefa, Ahmed and Isaaq. Were Sheik Bin Baz only to name one of the Prophet's (صلى ا…
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Salaam Aleikum, It is narrated on the authority of Abu Dharr: I asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him): Did you see thy Lord? He said: He is a Light. How could I see Him? (Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0341) - He is also a light eternity doesn't depend on Time and no vision can see such a light. If you say that in day of judgement Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) will be seen, then again It will contradict with this narration., because Allah is a light and no vision can be see Him.
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Shia Sect only supported by Hadith and not from Quran
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In Shia sect bashing the companion of the prophet is the sole of their religion. The sect doesn't have legitimate standing from the Quran. No clear ayat support any claim from the Shia. They don't understand the basis of Islam where Quran is commandment and Hadith is its reference. So where are the clear command that says its compulsory to take Ali as khalifa or Ahlul Bait. Anything that is compulsory there will be clear ayat to it. Even pork and gambling which is Haram clearly stated in the Quran. But Sadly, none from the Quran give a clear ayat commanding to take Ali as Khalifa or even Ahlul Bait.
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Salam. Recently I was surprised to know this is taught in schools of Pakistan. smh I have been combing my memory and could not recall I have read about a single war in which Umar actually fought and did not run, except no fighting took place (Fatah Mecca) or that he fled or did not take part (Badr). A child was telling me how Umar was so brave that while everyone else secretly did hijrat to Medina, he did it after announcement. I asked the child "then he was braver than the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) ?". Anyway, the question. Notice I have not even asked about any enemy casualty at his hands. If you know of an account where he fought anything, please…
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Salaam I found this “Uthman was killed by a sword drawn by Aisha, sharpened by Talha and poisoned by Ali” quote in the book After the Prophet: The Epic Story of the Shia-Sunni Split in Islam by Lesley Hazleton. Which I don't believe. But, can anyone inform me about the original source, please?
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Salam, I have a question regarding the sahaba and their decision after the Prophet's ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).A) passing. I read many stories of the sahaba and their justice and perseverance such as being torture to believe in Islam such as Abu Hudhayfa and Abu Jandal however after the Prophet, they all turned away from Imam Ali ((عليه السلام)) except a few. So my questions are: 1.why majority of the sahaba did not pledge or support him? 2.I read there was a hadith that said that Imam Ali would fought for his position if he had 40 sahaba with him but not even 40 sahaba (is this hadith reliable?) can support Imam Ali later but in personal ar…
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MALM put out a video and a statement defending muwayah and claiming he was more politically equipt than the imam (عليه السلام), this is actually an arguement always put forth by sunnis; that the state of the muslim state; it's expansion, economy, military, construction and prosperity was at a high during the time of abu bakr, umar, uthman and muwayah while it was at it's lowest during the time of imam ali (عليه السلام). Thoughts on this?
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Saw this randomly in some Swahili text on him. As a Somali this clearly piqued my interest, so after a bit of Googling I found this: Anyone know about this? I always assumed the African ancestries of some of the Imams (عليه السلام) all came from North Africa.
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In the name of God I am very confused about imam shafii, why did he not become a shia and why did he respect the caliphs if he loved the prophets family??? In His book "when power and piety collide" Seyyed mostafa qazwini writes: "the two differed regarding Ahlul Bayt - al-Shafi’i was in fact sympathetic towards their cause, while al-Shaybani(shafiis teacher) was not."[Page 144] "It is worth noting that al-Bukhari and al-Muslim did not narrate any hadith from al-Shafi’i - not because he was inferior in knowledge, but because he had inclinations towards the school of Ahlul Bayt. He said that Ali b. Ali Talib had the right to leadership at …
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Salaam, This may be helpful, and most definitely important info to consider...a positive outcome for the child can be given a greater chance if certain measures are precautions are put in place pre birth. -
Putting aside colors for a second, it’s hard to believe that the “existence” of anything is purely dependent on human consciousness. In other words, human perception flipping the switch from “non-existence” to “existence”. A more accurate terminology would be “latency” to “apparency”. Both these terms still imply existence in essence, while also explaining the association with human conscious. -
They can express their condemnation without any needs of radical action. At least they condemn, not like other Arabs who joined them.
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If that is the case Iran and their leaders should permanently stop bikering on israel. Go and tell them sorry and become their slave. Just like all other countries. Go and do so called diplomacy and stop threatning isreal every day when you cant do any thing about it in reality.
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