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    • Interestingly what you will find in their books is hadith which mentions this: "Narrated Ubai bin Ka’b: The Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) said: “Once Musa (عليه السلام) stood up and addressed Bani Israel. He was asked: “Who is the most learned man amongst the people?” He said: “I am the most learned.” Allah admonished Musa as he did not attribute absolute knowledge to Him (Allah).” https://sunnah.com/bukhari:122 If you look at the chapter where this hadith is, you will find the heading:   Chapter: When a religious learned man is asked, "Who is the most learned person." it is better for him to attribute or entrust absolute knowledge to Allah 'Azza wa Jall and to say. "Allah is the Most Learned (than anybody else)" Now have a look what people asked from Musa (عليه السلام): "Who is the most learned man amongst the people?" Can anyone reply that Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) is the most learned man amongst people? lol, what a joke! And you will find in their books, hadith like this: ‘I am the city of knowledge and ‘Ali is it’s gate’ Many of their scholars reject this hadith but some do grade it sahih & hasan. For instance, Hafiz Ibn Hajar Al ‘Asqalani when asked regarding the authenticity of the Hadith, stated that the Hadith is not authentic (sahih) nor is it fabricated (mawdu‘), rather it is sound (hasan). Hafiz ‘Alaee, ‘Allamah Sakhawi, ‘Allamah Suyuti and Imam Zurqani have also agreed that the Hadith is sound. (Refer: Al La-Alil Manthurah, Hadith: 113-117, Al Maqasidul Hasanah, Hadith: 189, Mukhtasarul Maqasid, Hadith: 170, Ad Durarul Muntathirah, Hadith: 38, Al La-Alil Masnu’ah, vol. 1 pgs. 302-308, Tanzihush Shari’ah, vol. 1 pg. 377, Al Asrarul Marfu’ah, Hadith: 71, and Kashful Khafa, vol. 1 pg. 184) So Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) attributed knowledge to himself by saying "I am the city of knowledge" and Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) never admonished him. 
    • آن سیه‌چرده که شیرینیِ عالم با اوست چشمِ میگون لبِ خندان دلِ خرم با اوست   گرچه شیرین‌ دهنان پادشهانند ولی او سلیمانِ زمان است که خاتم با اوست   رویِ خوب است و کمالِ هنر و دامنِ پاک لاجرم همتِ پاکان دو عالم با اوست   خال مشکین که بدان عارض گندمگون است سِرِّ آن دانه که شد رهزنِ آدم با اوست   دلبرم عزم سفر کرد خدا را یاران چه کنم با دل مجروح که مرهم با اوست   با که این نکته توان گفت که آن سنگین‌ دل کُشت ما را و دمِ عیسیِ مریم با اوست   حافظ از معتقدان است گرامی دارش زان که بخشایشِ بس روحِ مکرم با اوست
    • Treaty of the Prophet (s) with christians of Najran, found in Seert Chronicle: https://www.academia.edu/64721777/An_Historical_Evaluation_of_the_Covenants_of_the_Prophet_Muḥammad_and_Alī_ibn_Abī_Ṭālib_in_the_Matenadaran https://www.academia.edu › An_His... (PDF) An Historical Evaluation of the Covenants of the ... - Academia.edu 
    • Well, do you even know what is Quran even says about "Ulul Azm"?  So Khizr's (عليه السلام) words are preserved in Quran: كيف تصبر على ما لم تحط به خبرا So Musa (عليه السلام) was not remain patient. And here is a verse of Quran which mentions this to Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم): فَاصْبِرْ كَمَا صَبَرَ أُولُو الْعَزْمِ مِنَ الرُّسُلِ وَلَا تَسْتَعْجِلْ لَهُمْ 46:35 Now I don't want to go off-topic, so I will open a new thread to discuss the term "Ulul Azm" and the story of Musa (عليه السلام) & Khizr (عليه السلام) as mentioned in Chapter 18. Ohhh, it seems that you knew much about Khizr (عليه السلام). You know every aspect of his life & therefore free to conclude that Musa (عليه السلام) was "overall" greater than Khizr (عليه السلام).  A "Kaleemullah" never knew how Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) is communicating with His Abd! I will quote ahadith from your books in my new thread. Get yourself prepared!  And then I will demand from you the نص for declaring Musa (عليه السلام) overall better than Khizr (عليه السلام). What a shame for you! How poor is your understanding! Show me where is the verse in Quran mentioning the name "Khizr" or mentioning him as Prophet.  For Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) there are many verses: و ما محمد الا رسول محمد رسول الله والذين أمنوا معه Etc.... lol, Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) is افضل from every Prophet. I thought that is the opinion of Ahlul Sunnah. So Shia view point is that the bearers of the "minniyat" of Rasool Allah (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) holds the same status. The one who is nafs e Rasool (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) is better than rest of the world & why not when he is also introduced in Quran as: و من عنده علم الكتاب And for this very reason, Isa (عليه السلام) will offer prayers behind Imam al-Mehdi ajtf.   
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