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    • Hi there. Thanks for the work you've put into locating these. The website pages you link to contain so much information which is wrong, misleading or irrelevant that it would take me forever to go through all the points. Could I ask you to pick what you consider to be the three strongest arguments that Paul was rejected by the apostles?   Thanks! 
    • Chapter 19, Maryam, (Mary) - Verse 37, Verse 75.      Verse 37   The sects differed among themselves, and woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of the great day” Imam Baqir (عليه السلام) said, Sit still and do not move your hands or legs until you see (all of) the signs that I am about to tell you (manifest themselves) within one year. There will be a caller in Damascus and the earth will collapse in one of its small towns. Then a portion of the mosque of Damascus will be destroyed. The Turks will arrive and pass through Damascus until they arrive in the island (of Hejaz). The Greeks will arrive all the way to Ramla (a city on the coastal plain south-east of Tel Aviv). In that year, there will be fighting and disorder in every Arab land. The people of Shaam will be divided under three flags: As’hab, Abqa’, and Sufyani. Then Muz’ar will lead (the tribe of) Bani Dhanb Al-Himaar but Sufyani and his uncles (from the tribe of) Bani Kalb will fight and kill all of them in a way that has never been heard of before. This is the meaning of the verse, “The sects differed among themselves, and woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of the great day.” Then Sufyani and his army will focus only on killing the family of the Prophet (عليه السلام) and their Shia. He will go to Kufa, where he will crucify and kill the Shia. Then a flag (an army) will come from Khorasan. It will reach the shores of the Tigris River. Thereafter, one of our weak lovers will rise with a group of his followers. He will be attacked on the (southern) outskirts of Kufa. Then Sufyani will send a cavalry to Medina (looking for the Qaem (as)) and they will kill a man there. Thereafter, Mahdi (عليه السلام) and Mansur will depart from Medina. However, the family of the Prophet (sawa) will all be imprisoned, from the youth to the elderly. The army of Sufyani will go looking for the two men but Mahdi (عليه السلام) will depart, just as Musa departed from the people cautiously and in fear He will go to Makkah. The army will follow him until it arrives in Baydaa. Then the earth will collapse on the army, and everyone will be killed except for an informant from among them. The Qaem (عليه السلام) will stand between Rukn and Maqaam, and then he will pray. After the prayers, he will move with his minister and call out: O people! We ask Allah to help us against those who oppressed us and usurped our rights. O people! Those who dispute with me about Allah, (should know) that I am the most knowledgeable about Allah. O people! Those who dispute with me about Adam, (should know) that I am the most knowledgeable about Adam (عليه السلام) O people! Those who dispute with me about Nuh, (should know) that I am the most knowledgeable about Nuh (عليه السلام). O people! Those who dispute with me about Ibrahim, (should know) that I am the most knowledgeable about Ibrahim (عليه السلام). O people! Those who dispute with me about the Messenger of Allah, Mohammed, (should know) that I am the most knowledgeable about the Messenger of Allah (sawa). O people! Those who dispute with me about the prophets, (should know) that I am the most knowledgeable about the prophets. O people! Those who dispute with me about the Book of Allah, (should know) that I am the most knowledgeable about the Book of Allah. I testify and every Muslim also testifies that we have been oppressed, banished, and exiled from our homes. Our wealth and our families have been stolen from us, and verily (today) we ask Allah and every Muslim to help us. I swear to Allah that a little over three hundred and ten companions will join him, and there will be fifty women with them. They will join him with no prior appointment, just like the cumulus clouds of autumn, one after another. This is the meaning of the verse, “Wherever you are, Allah will bring you all together; verily, Allah has power over all things” (Chapter 2 verse 148). The Qaem (عليه السلام) and his minister will be between Rukn and Maqaam holding the covenant, the flag, and the sword of the Prophet (sawa) when the companions of the Qaem (عليه السلام) will join him and pay allegiance to him. Then a caller will call and announce the matter (reappearance) of the Qaem (عليه السلام), and will mention him by name in a voice that will be heard by everyone on earth. His name is the name of the Prophet (sawa). If you are not certain about any of these signs, you can be certain about the covenant of the Prophet (sawa), his flag, his sword, and the purified soul from the sons of Husain (عليه السلام). If you are still not certain, then you can be confident about the announcement from the heavens that will mention his name. The family of the Prophet (sawa) has only one flag but others will rise with many different flags. Therefore, stay still and do not follow anyone until you see the man from the sons of Husain (عليه السلام) who has the covenant, the flag, and the sword of the Prophet with him. The covenant of the Prophet (sawa) was given to Ali bin Husain – (after Husain (as)) and then to Mohammed bin Ali (عليه السلام) and after him to whomever Allah wills. Therefore, follow this family forever and beware of those whom I mentioned to you. When (the Qaem (as)) and his companions move toward Medina, they will pass by Baydaa. He (عليه السلام) will say, “This is the land that will collapse on (the army of Sufyani).” This is the meaning of the verse, “What! Do those who make evil plans feel secure from (the splitting ofl the earth by Allah to swallow them, or of the coming of the wrath of Allah on them from where they do not perceive?” (Chapter 16 verse 45) When (the Qaem (as)) reaches Medina, he will send Mohammed bin Al-Shajari out of it (secretly), just like Prophet Yusuf (عليه السلام). Then he will move to Kufa and he will stay there for as long as Allah wills until he seizes the city. Thereafter, he will move to Azraa with his companions and with many others who will have joined him. Sufyani will be in Ramla at that point and the two armies will meet. That is the Day of Replacement – when some of the Shia of the family of the Prophet (sawa) will leave the army of Sufyani and join the Army of the Qaem (عليه السلام), while some of the Shia of Sufyani will leave the army of the Qaem (عليه السلام) and join Sufyaani. On that day, everyone will follow their own flag. Ameerul Momeneen (عليه السلام) said that on that day Sufyani and everyone with him will be killed. The true losers will be those who will not be with the Qaem (عليه السلام) on that day to take from the plunder of (Bani) Kalb (the army of Sufyani). Then he (the Qaem (as)) will go to Kufa, which is where he will live. He will buy and free every Muslim slave. He will pay the debt of every Muslim and he will return the rights of all of the Muslims back to them. He will not kill anyone without paying the blood money to his family and no one from (among his companions) will be killed without Imam (عليه السلام) paying his debts on his behalf and appointing a salary for his family. He will fill the earth with equity and justice, just as it will be filled with inequity, oppression, and aggression. Then he and his family will move to Rohbah, which is where Nun— lived. Rohbah is a blessed land, for every land in which someone from the family of the Prophet (عليه السلام) has lived or has been killed is a blessed land. Verily, they (the Ahlul Bayt) are the purified successors. (Tafseer Ayyashi volume 1 page 63)       Verse 75 “…when they behold what they were promised, either the chastisement (in this world), or the hour (of doom), they shall know who is worst in position and who is weakest in forces” Imam Sadiq (عليه السلام) said, “When our clear signs are recited to them, those who disbelieve say to those who believe: ‘Which of the two parties is best in position? Which is the best in assembly?” (Chapter 19 verse 73). The Messenger of Allah (sawa) invited the Quraysh to (accept) our Wilayat but they refused and denied it. So “those who disbelieve” from among the Quraysh said to “those who believe” in the Wilayat of the Commander of the Believers (عليه السلام) and (the Wilayat of) the Ahlul Bayt (عليه السلام) “Which of the two parties is best in position? Which is the best in assembly?” (And by saying this) they mocked (the believers). However, Allah replied to them by saying, “How many generations We destroyed before them” from the previous nations “who were (even) better in wealth and splendor” (Chapter 19 verse 74)? I (Abu Baseer) asked, What do the words of Allah in this verse mean, “Say (O Mohammed) ‘Whosoever is in error, Ar-Rahman shall verily prolong his span of life”(Chapter 19 verse 75)? Imam (عليه السلام) replied, They all went astray and they did not believe in the Wilayat of the Commander of the Believers (عليه السلام) nor in our Wilayat.   Therefore, they went astray and led the people astray. Allah prolongs their span of delusion and oppression until the time of their death, and then He will take them to the worst of destinations where they will find no helper. I asked, What does this verse mean, “When they behold what they were promised” (Chapter 19 verse 75)? Imam (عليه السلام) replied, (This part of the verse) refers to the rising of the Qaem (عليه السلام) which is “the hour” mentioned (earlier) in this verse. On that day, they will see the (torment) that will befall them from Allah through the Qaem (عليه السلام). That is why Allah says, “They shall know who is worst in position and who is weakest in forces” in the eyes of the Qaem (عليه السلام). I asked, What does this verse mean, “Allah increases in guidance those who are guided aright” (Chapter 19 verse 76)? Imam (عليه السلام) replied, This means by following and believing in the Qaem (عليه السلام) without denying his rights, Allah will increase His guidance of (“those who are guided aright”) beyond the existing guidance. I asked, What does this verse mean, “They shall have no power of intercession, save he who has taken a covenant from Ar-Rahman” (Chapter 19 verse 87)?” Imam (عليه السلام) replied, “It means that (“they shall have no power of intercession”), except those who worship Allah by accepting the Wilayat of Ameerul Momeneen (عليه السلام) and the Wilayat of the Imams from his sons (عليه السلام) after him. (Believing in the Wilayat of the Commander of the Believers and the Imams from his sons) is the covenant with Allah.” I asked, What does this verse mean, “Verily those who believe and do good deeds Ar-Rahman will appoint for them love” (Chapter 19 verse 96)? Imam (عليه السلام) replied, The Wilayat of the Commander of the Believers (عليه السلام) is the “love” to which Allah refers in this verse. I asked, What does this verse mean, “So We have made this easy in your tongue, that you may thereby give glad tidings to the pious ones, and warn thereby the people who are contentious” (Chapter 19 verse 97)? Imam (عليه السلام) replied, Verily Allah made it “easy” for the Prophet (sawa) when he appointed the Commander of the Believers (عليه السلام) as a standard and he gave “glad tidings” to the believers. He warned the disbelievers, and they are those whom Allah mentions in this verse as “the people who are contentious.” (Al Kafi volume 1 page 431)    
    • Chapter 17, Bani Israel, (The Israelites) Verse 8, Verse 33, Verse 81.      Verse 8     ‘It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you, but if you return, We too shall return. We have made Hell a prison for the infidels” Regarding the above verse, Imam Sadiq (عليه السلام) said, “It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you”  means that Allah will help you against your enemies. Then Allah addresses the Bani Umayyah and says, “But if you return, We too shall return”. This means that when you (the Bani Umayyah) return with Sufyani, “We” will return with the Qaem of the family of Mohammed (عليه السلام) “We have made Hell a prison for the infidels”. (Tafseer Al Qummi volume 2 page 14)     Verse 33   “And whosoever is killed unjustly, then We have indeed given his heir an authority, but let him not exceed the limits in killing, verily he is helped” Regarding the above verse, Imam Sadiq (عليه السلام) said, This is about the Qaem of the family of the Prophet (عليه السلام). When he rises, he will kill (many people), avenging the blood of Husain (عليه السلام). Even if he kills everyone on earth, he will not “exceed the limits of killing.” “But let him not exceed the limits in killing” means that he will not act unconscionably. I swear to Allah that he will kill the descendants of the killers of Husain (عليه السلام) for the deeds of their fathers. (Kamiluz Ziyarat) A person said to Imam Reza (عليه السلام), O son of the Messenger of Allah! What do you say about a Hadith that is narrated from (Imam) Sadiq (عليه السلام), who said, ‘When our Qaem (عليه السلام) rises, he will kill the descendants of the killers of Husain (عليه السلام) for the deeds of their fathers. Imam Reza (عليه السلام) replied, It is true. I asked, Then what about the words of Allah in this verse, “No bearer of burden, shall bear another’s burden”? Imam Reza (عليه السلام) replied, Allah says the truth in all of His words. The descendants of the killers of Husain (عليه السلام) are pleased with the deeds of their fathers and they boast about (these deeds). And those who are pleased with an act are just like those who commit it. Even if a man kills someone in the east and another man in the west is pleased with that killing, he will be considered a partner in that killing in the eyes of Allah. The Qaem (عليه السلام) will kill them for being pleased with the acts of their fathers. I asked, What is the first thing the Qaem (عليه السلام) will do after he rises? Imam (عليه السلام) replied, He will start with the Bani Shaybah (name of the tribe that holds the keys to the Kaabah). He will cut their hands off because they are the looters of the House of Allah. (Oyoone’ Akhbare’ Reza) Regarding the verse – “And whosoever is killed unjustly, then We have indeed given his heir an authority, but let him not exceed the limits in killing, verily he is helped” – Imam Baqir (عليه السلام) said, The one who is “killed unjustly” is Husain bin Ali (عليه السلام) and we are his “heirs.” When the Qaem (عليه السلام) rises, he will avenge Husain’s (killing). He will kill so many people that some will say, “He is [exceeding] the limits.” Therefore, the verse refers to Husain (عليه السلام) and the “heir” is the Qaem (عليه السلام). “[Exceeding]the limits of killing” means killing those who were not involved in the killing of Husain (عليه السلام). “Verily he is helped” means that verily the days of this life will not end before a man from the family of the Prophet (عليه السلام) is “helped.” He will fill the earth with justice and equity, just as it will be filled with oppression and inequity. (Tafseer Ayyashi volume 2 page 289)     Verse 81     “And say, truth has come and falsehood has vanished; verily falsehood (by its nature) is bound to vanish” Imam Baqir (عليه السلام) explained the above verse by saying, “When the Qaem (عليه السلام) rises the government of falsehood will vanish.” (Al Kafi volume 8 page 287)  
    • H 705, Ch. 53, h 4 A number of our people has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from al-Husayn ibn Sa'id from Hammad ibn 'Isa from al-Husayn ibn al-Mukhtar from al-Harith ibn al-Mughirah who has said that abu Ja'far ((عليه السلام).) has said the following. "Ali ((عليه السلام).) was a Muhaddith (a Divine spokesman)." The narrator has said that he then asked the Imam ((عليه السلام).), "What is mmeans, O Imam? Do you say he was a prophet?" The narrator has said that the Imam ((عليه السلام).) rose his hand like this, (meaning thereby, no, I did not say that)." The Imam ((عليه السلام).) then said, "Or he is like the companion of Solomon, or the companion of Moses or like Dhul Qarnayn. Have you not heard that he said, "Among you is one similar to him (Dhul Qarnayn)." --- It is true that they are not Prophets, but they are very close to the characters of the prophets and messengers. And they are divinely appointed as leaders for the humanity.
    • The right to bear arms is not a religion to americans its their strange nationalist cult where the constitution has become scripture to them. Some Americans literally believe the constitution is divinely inspired. While the right to bear arms is in the constitution I do believe it's basis is based on religion. I am in no way a gun fanatic but it's a tool like any other tool that has its place. I do believe it has a basis in both Christian and Islamic theology. 
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