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Minor Islamic Sects
Dicuss the history and doctrines of non-Imami sects and religions such as the Isma`ilis, Zaydis, Waqifis, Druze, Nusayris, Zoroastrians, Mandeans, and others, both existing and extinct.
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Do we have any Akhbari on here? Surprisingly online there seems to be a stem of Neo-Akhbaris. Discussing this with my friend he told me that Afghan Shi’as living in Germany and Holland are disillusioned with Iran and are adopting more Akhbari beliefs (also add in the fact that Hassan Allahyari holds many of the same viewpoints as them). I also hear in South Asia particularly Pakistan Akhbarism is rising, with extremely devoted Pakistanis adhering to all the hadiths attributes to the Ahlulbayt ((عليه السلام)). Im just wondering if this is just a trend online or if the movement is actually rising?
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Aga Khan IV is the current imam (49th) according to millions of Nizari Ismailis. According to their belief, all Nizari Ismailis should give between 10% or 12.5% of their net income to the current imam. Aga Khan IV and his family are very rich. They also believe that imams are infallible (never sins), and dressing immodestly is haram. https://ask.ismailignosis.com/article/77-what-is-the-concept-of-halal-haram-in-ismailism But then Aga Khan IV was caught dressing immodestly with his “friends”. https://insideismailism.wordpress.com/aga-khan-vacation-2018/
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i heard of a hadtih in a book, which says that there will be 13 shia sects and only one goes to paradise, could some one privide detail?
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Salam alaykum. I was Sunni until a few months ago when I started to research Shia Islam. Convinced of the imamate of Ali, Hassan and Hussein, I then had to decide between Twelver, Zaidi and Ismaili. To cut a long story short, now I am Twelver. However I would like to know what is the Twelver perspective on the Ismailis. My main question is specifically why is Musa al-Kadhim the seventh Imam and not his brother Ismail? Any other comments related to Twelver and Ismaili perspectives of each other is welcome.
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While I would not call my self a distinct Quranist, (I simply has to little knowledge to choose either), I do think the Quranists has a good argument. The message given to Rasul Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم وعائلته) is what is written in the Qur'an. And that must be the foremost authority to Muslims. The Hadith is hear say. As far as I understand the word "hadith" means something that people has said about the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم وعائلته). That means that the hadith is not divine revelation. Even scholars admit that many hadith's are fake, invented by people trying to forward their own agenda. In the first centuries AH a lot of Christian's, Jew's, Zoroastrian's, Mani…
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Who are Zaydis? What is their belief ?
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السلام على من التبع الهداً I need to know, Who are Zaydis and what is their belief and why do Sunnis consider them as Muslims and consider all other sects as rejectors "raafidah". And I need to know, which sect among Shia are considered to be on truth - guidance. My question is for only educational purposes. Please provide evidences from authentic Shia Sources.
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Since we have threads for other sects, I felt we should have one dedicated to the Nation of Islam Nation of Islam on sunni islam - Check 7:20 onwards Minister Farakhan on Racism in Islam Nation of Islam Praying 7:30 onwards
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Sunni here, interested in what the Zaidi understanding of Shaykhayn (Abu Bakr Radiyallahu An and Umar Radiyallahy An) and Uthman Radiyallahu An. Is it true that you prohibit yourselves from cursing them? Do you view them as muslims? Do you think they were sinful or not? Also, as with Ahlus Sunnah, do you agree with us that Imam Ali KarramAllahu Wajhu loved/respected them? I am interested as I have read that the Zaidis are more moderate Shia, I'm simply interested to see how far this moderation goes. Also, unrelated question, is it true that you do not do Taqiyyah in the manner of the Shia?
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Asalam alaikom everyone.....any other Zaydis hanging around the forums? Any other Zaydi converts, by chance? Just asking, surely I can't be the only one
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Salaam All, Just a quick question about this school of thought. What are their main/core beliefs and how do their ritual practices differ from the Shia school of thought. Thank you
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Ornament hand in Myanmar's Shia Mosque
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Salam Alekum, I found this ornament hand in Myanmar's Shia Mosque. Do someone know what it is? Is this typical of Shia? or typical of Myanmar? I think it seems "Hamsa" but it's a little different and it has no eye. If someone know what it is, please let me know. Thanks.
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Mustahab fasts
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if we have wajib qaza fasts of our childhood but I don't know how many wajib qaza fasts are there so till when can we not keep mustahab fasts?
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[MOD NOTE: This is from an Ismaili website, not a Shia site.] Science of Dream Interpretation in Islam: An important branch of Ulum al Khafiyyah By: Qazi Dr. Shaikh Abbas Borhany PhD (USA), NDI, Shahadat al A’alamiyyah (Najaf, Iraq), MA, LLM (Shariah) Mushir: Federal Shariat Court of Pakistan Member: Ulama Council of Pakistan Published in MAG Weekly on 10-12-2005, in Daily News, Pakistan on 03-07-2009 & in Yemen Times 1. Dream Interpretation: To believe Qur’an as a miracle is a common fact, but on the other hand this divine book is a “universe of intellectual miracles”, as it contains treasures of secret sciences. In this t…
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Christianity (catholic, protestant, orthodox) This seems interesting regarding the orthodox religion. Before, I never knew anything about orthodox. But it seems like they are able to prove things scientifically/mathematically like how us Shias are able to prove things scientifically/mathematically. Could this be the pure branches of christianity out of the other two? Have a read at the link below and tell me what you think. http://www.ocf.org/OrthodoxPage/reading/ortho_cath.html
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From a Twelver Shia perspective, what are these sects I am listing below (and please give a brief summary of their beliefs) and are they considered heretical (if so why do you consider them heretics)? -Alawite -Alevi -Ismaili -Zaidi -Ibadi -Ahmadiyya -Deobandi -Berelvi
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Ya Ali madad (عليه السلام) I have someone closer to me..I am Shia but He has Al Ahmadi (Qadiyani) Fiqah..I Want to make her shiane Ali (عليه السلام) What are the better steps to do that? I tried to teach him some ahdees but He refuses bcz u know Everyone thinks that there ahdees/quotes are wrong and our Fiqah is right..I know when Imam/ Masomeen (عليه السلام) want to give the right way..He can be a Shia in no time. So m not a scholor or someone with high knowledge to do that.What should I do? I Just don't want that he will die witbout willayat E Ali (عليه السلام) Bcz he is much closer to me. Thanks
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The title is pretty much the topic. Some ahmadi I met told me that a watermelon refused the Wilayah of Imam Amir al-Momineen (عليه السلام). Firstly, I'd just like to point out how much the Ahmadis hate the Ahl al-Bayt. Secondly, I'd like to say that a watermelon would obviously accept the stuff that the caliph of ahmadism would say. Because it is a watermelon, it has no brain. Anyway, I just want to know where this guy got this from. He sent some weird ibn Taymiyyah source or something but I want to know if there's any other Nasibi theory like this.
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Assalamualaikum, I recently met a friend who said she was a Shia. When I got to know her better I found out that she is a Shia Bohra Muslim. I honestly had no idea until then that our Shia Islam was divided into more sects. I always thought we were united and one together. We still are and I know that, since even Bohra Shia's Immate ends with Imam Mahdi ((عليه السلام)). But it's just that I do not know much about these other sects. I know there are more threads here on this topic, but I couldn't find proper information on them. I asked my friend more about her Bohra Shia Islam but she is not aware about it. She isn't much religious either (a fact that I do not appro…
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Ahmadi-ism
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Do Ahmadyyias believe that Ghulam Ahmed is the reincarnation of Jesus ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) and The Mahdi at the same time?? That makes no sense. Because Jesus is suppose to come at end Time and if Ghulam came 200 years ago, then doesn’t that prove he isn’t a Prophet?
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(bismillah) (salam) Brother Fakhruddin, I have a few questions. So let me start with the first one. -Is it true that Dawoodi Bohra followers are not allowed to read the translation of Quran, even if they dont understand Arabic? WS
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Can he be considered outside the fold of the Shia and why do people send durood and salaam upon this living individual?
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How much zaidi Shias differ in beliefs from other Shias? I want to know similarities and differences. A lot live in Yemen.
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For a misyar to be valid is it required that you become legally married or is just signing a contract that isn't legally binding good enough. Can I write and sign my own nikha that isn't recognized by the government and what other requirements are there? Is it any different for a standard marriage agreement?
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Are Ismaili muslims? 1 2 3 4 15
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(bismillah) (salam) Ok my question is at what point in history did Ismaili's cease to be muslim and become ghulati and more? Did the Fatimids observe daily salat and go on hajj? I guess my question is regarding their status among muslims in the past and in the present.
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Similar to Pascal's wager, I present the following argument against the Baha'i Faith: If I, a Muslim, am right, then you, a Baha'i, will burn in hell for eternity. If you, a Baha'i, are right, then I, a Muslim, will experience temporary remoteness from God and eventually, enjoy the all-highest paradise. To elaborate, according to the Baha'i Faith, hell and heaven are not literal places, but states of being. Hell is being remote from God and heaven is being close to God. All of the descriptions of heaven and hell provided in the Quran and ahadith are metaphorical. For example, fire represents unbelief and hoor al-ayn represent hidden meanings of revelation…
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What is the Shia view of Sufism? Thought on Sufi practices?
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Someone explain this pic pls. At hajijesus edit:- the pic is not uploading. Help pls edit again:- check the picture below
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My reasearch and findings on Lahore ahmadiyya jumat.
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Assalam O Alaikum. All Brothers. I am a Sunni Muslim from Pakistan,Peshawar Proudly I belong to the lineage of Hazrat Ghous ul Azam Shiekh Abdul Qadir Jilani and exclusively to Our beloved Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).w I am a Syed no doubt we also had our shajra but it was lost in shifting homes unfortunately but we still remember it.My discussion is on a topic which has never been discussed by Muslims all over the world it is related to Al-Mahdi and its interpretation in Qur'an and appearance and that jesus (عليه السلام) has died natural death and there is no Prophet after Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).w neither old nor new he is the last and …
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“Al-ʿIqd al-Farīd” (“The Unique Necklace”), v. 4, p. 123: Omar said to Am'r, when he arrived from Egypt: “You have went by the biography of lovers.” Am'r replied: “By God, I wasn't arm pitted by slaves, nor had I been held by whores in napkins of menses!” Omar said: “By God, that wasn't what I asked you about. And indeed, the chicken checks in the ash, and places its eggs for other than the male, and the egg is attributed to its knock.” (3) And Omar stood up and exited. Am'r said: “The commander of the 'faithful' had been obscene to us!” Footnotes: (3): “The mother of Am'r was a singer (or escort): and other than one man entered on her, and Am'r was attributed …
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The secretive Kaka'I of Iraq are finally speaking out The Kaka'I are a secretive religious minority in Iraq who usually avoid the cameras. Their persecution has forced them to keep their beliefs and rituals a secret; once numbering in their millions in Iraq, there are now just 200,000. They have been persecuted by extremists in the region who consider them to be infidels, such as ISIS and al-Qaeda. The Kaka'I have also faced discrimination from the Shia Muslim-led paramilitary Popular Mobilisation force since the central government retook control of Kirkuk province from Kurdish forces in 2017. They are finally revealing their lives t…
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By Abdul-Hadi · Posted
I'm almost always happy when I'm saying my prayers because it's five times a day where I get to encounter God (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). Why would I cry when I get to spend time with God(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) five times a day or more & I know that he loves me and is oft forgiving and the most merciful? I don't cry over recitation of the Quran either, I find it very comforting and most of the time it actually makes me smile. I used to cry a lot over everything but since my meds were adjusted, I don't normally cry over anything anymore. Sometimes I worry about that, because crying is a natural phenomenon, but I'd rather be living a life where I am not crying than one where I am crying over everything. I've cried more than enough in my life, so any time that I get to laugh now, I enjoy it. -
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if I want to be like anti majos and say “hey why do sunnis not take their salat seriously”. No because out of now 1.8 billion Muslims you are bound to find people doing weird stuff. Problem is if a Shia does something dumb they make it as if that’s the Shia religion. -
By Gaius I. Caesar · Posted
If you don't love your wife, is then ethical to cheat on her with the next door neighbor? If I am love-struck, it doesn't matter how I feel, everyone has the right to respect and honor. Even God, hence we have religion and worship. If one doesn't believe in God, then it is pointless in asking such a question because it as absolutely no meaning to them. -
I can’t stand anti Shia nonsense. If they want to pick and choose of coarse there’s gonna be some funny weird stuff out of millions of people. Why don’t we send them videos of a Sunni brother praying smoking a cigarette at the same time which I seen laughed but didn’t judge because I know not everyone is stupid. But to turn around and say (why do SHIA) meaning all it makes me annoyed.
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