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Ships and the Qur'an and the epistemology of navigation


Haji 2003

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Summary

  • Ships are an interesting phenomenon that are referred to in the Qur'an on a number of different occasions.
  • For the Arabs at the time of revelation they would likely have been considered as an object that people made and used. The Qur'an points out that the source of the innovation is God and that they are an example of His Mercy.
    • My belief as a layperson is that this supports the contention that Islam is supportive of product innovation.
  • Once we start talking about ships an associated construct - 'navigation' immediately arises.
    • This is interesting because God explicitly refers to the tools necessary for navigation (stars) also being an example of His mercy.
    • So not only do we have a product that He created for us, but also the knowledge and supporting resources necessary to use it. Worth noting is that these resources were created millions/billions of years and light years apart.
    • The words used for knowledge also subsume notions of both navigation in a physical sense and also a metaphorical or spiritual sense.
  • Finally all of this points towards our dominion over nature and the vocabulary used for this involves man needing to be grateful to God for this provision.

Introduction

This analysis originally started off as a reply to @Northwest and, as I dug deeper, opened up new and interesting areas of enquiry. So the first post below is the reply to Northwest and it should make sense even when taken out of the thread's context, though I also provide some background.

The replies to the first post (below) then go deeper into the issue of knowledge/epistemology and naval navigation - fascinatingly probing the links between those concepts yields results. 

Background

The thread in which the following material appeared was to do with technological innovation. My contention was that the Qur'an not only accepts this, but puts it in a positive light. In order to support this claim I made reference to the Qur'anic story about Prophet Daoud's (عليه السلام). chain mail. I also pointed out how the Qur'an points out the moral/ethical burden of such technological development.

But this example was considered too specific and singular to be adequate. My challenge therefore was to come up with references to technology and innovation in the Qur'an that were more widespread and hence the material that appears below.

The initial post

This is my answer to my interlocutor after they challenged me about the specificity of my reference to Prophet Daoud's chainmail.

You've stimulated me to bring together something which I had noticed but never addressed or thought to bring together - the numerous but disparate references to ships in the Qur'an. As per my usual format of showing conversations with chatGPT, my prompts are in bold red and its answers are in regular black text.

I think it's reasonable to argue that ships per se are not the kind of innovation that Prophet's Yusuf and Nut ((عليه السلام).) brought i.e. to avert calamity and nor are they innovations for use at a specific point in time which applies to those two Prophets' innovations and that of Prophet Daoud ((عليه السلام).)

Rather the creation of ships is not tied to a specific time or situation nor indeed is it specifically tied to human survival in an acute sense.

More than this, of all the innovations we could be talking about, ships are actually quite profound in terms of the social and economic impact they have, e.g. in terms of migratory flows of people, encouragement of specialisation in terms of means of production and so on. Obviously, they also present challenges in terms of movements of goods that have cultural baggage attached and the obvious impact of international competition and so on.

My inference here is as a layperson and not a theologian. Still, if there is one innovation that points to Divine encouragement of human societal sophistication and complexity, this is it.

What are all references in the Qur'an to ships?

In a material sense ships are the product of human innovation, but clearly that human inspiration is God-given and as the Qur'an says it's a sign of His mercy and something which enables us to prevail over nature.

1. Surah Al-Baqarah (2:164): 
    - "Indeed, in the creation of the heavens and the earth, the alternation of the night and the day, the [great] ships which sail through the sea with that which benefits people, and what Allah has sent down from the heavens of rain, giving life thereby to the earth after its lifelessness and dispersing therein every [kind of] moving creature, and [His] directing of the winds and the clouds controlled between the heaven and the earth are signs for a people who use reason."

2. Surah Ya-Sin (36:41-42):
    - "And a sign for them is that We carried their forefathers in a laden ship. And We created for them from the likes of it that which they ride."

3. Surah Az-Zukhruf (43:12-14):
    - "And who created the species, all of them, and has made for you of ships and animals those which you mount. That you may settle yourselves upon their backs and then remember the favor of your Lord when you have settled upon them and say. 'Exalted is He who has subjected this to us, and we could not have [otherwise] subdued it.'"

4. Surah Al-Jathiya (45:12):
    - "Allah is the one who subjected the sea for you so that ships may sail through it by His command and that you may seek of His bounty, and perhaps you will be grateful."

5. Surah Al-Isra (17:66):
    - "Your Lord is the One who drives for you the ship in the sea so that you may seek of His bounty. He is indeed Most Merciful to you."

6. Surah An-Nahl (16:14):
    - "And it is He who subjected the sea for you to eat from it tender meat and to extract from it ornaments which you wear. And you see the ships plowing through it, and [He subjected it] that you may seek of His bounty, and perhaps you will be grateful."

7. Surah Ar-Rum (30:46):
    - "And among His Signs is this, that He sends the winds as glad tidings, giving you a taste of His Mercy, and that the ships may sail by His Command and that you may seek of His Bounty, in order that you may be thankful."

8. Surah Al-Furqan (25:53):
    - "And it is He who has released [simultaneously] the two seas, one fresh and sweet and one salty and bitter, and He placed between them a barrier and prohibiting partition."

Are there any roots that commonly appear in association with ships?

In the Qur'an, the primary root associated with ships is {ف-ل-ك} (F-L-K). The derived word "فُلْك" (fulk) specifically means "ship" or "vessel." 

Let's look at the occurrences of this root in the context of ships and check for any other roots that consistently appear close to it:

1. Surah Al-Baqarah (2:164): The verse mentions ships as "الْفُلْكِ الَّتِي تَجْرِي فِي الْبَحْرِ" (the ships which sail through the sea).

2. Surah Ya-Sin (36:41-42): The term "الْفُلْكِ" (the ships) is used to signify the ships that sail, carrying their passengers.

3. Surah Al-Isra (17:66): The verse mentions "الْفُلْكِ" (the ship) that sails in the sea.

4. Surah An-Nahl (16:14): Here, the ships are referred to as "الْفُلْكَ" (the ships) that move through the sea.

5. Surah Ghafir (40:79-80): The verses mention "الْفُلْكِ" (the ships) as a means of transport on both land (referring to animals) and sea.

6. Surah Ash-Shura (42:32-33): Ships, "الْفُلْكِ", are mentioned in the context of signs of God's power and mercy.

Looking at these verses and their contexts, ships (fulk) are often mentioned in relation to:
- The sea {ب-ح-ر}  - B-H-R
- Sailing or traveling {ج-ر-ي} - J-R-Y
- Signs of God's mercy and creation {آيات} - Ā-Y-T

Thus, while the primary root associated with ships is {ف-ل-ك} (F-L-K), it frequently appears in the context of the sea, travel, and divine signs.

Going back to your preceding answer, for each instance of the occurrence of f-l-k can you tabulate where a-y-t appears please?

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This is a good illustration how you sometimes need to 'help chatgpt along'. In answer to this query the app leaves out the answer I was actually looking for, based on memory. In the next post I refer to it explicitly.

We spoke about ships above. Does the Qur’an also refer to navigation?

Yes, the Qur'an does make reference to navigation, particularly in the context of ships and the sea. Navigation is presented as a sign of God's mercy, enabling humans to traverse vast oceans safely. Here are some of the relevant verses:

1. Surah Al-An'am (6:141):
   - "And He it is who produces gardens trellised and untrellised, and date palms, and crops of different shape and taste (its fruits and its seeds) and olives, and pomegranates, similar (in kind) and different (in taste). Eat of their fruit when they ripen, but pay the due thereof (its Zakat) on the day of its harvest, and waste not by extravagance. Verily, He likes not Al-Musrifun (those who waste by extravagance)."
   - **Note**: This verse, while emphasizing the importance of giving due rights and not being wasteful, also indirectly references the mercies of God in providing means of sustenance and guidance on how they should be utilized.

2. Surah An-Nahl (16:14):
   - "And it is He who subjected the sea for you to eat from it tender meat and to extract from it ornaments which you wear. And you see the ships plowing through it, and [He subjected it] that you may seek of His bounty, and perhaps you will be grateful."
   - **Note**: This verse highlights the ships "plowing" through the sea, with the underlying implication being that humans can navigate these vast waters because God has made it possible.

3. Surah Al-Isra (17:66):
   - "Your Lord is the One who drives for you the ship in the sea so that you may seek of His bounty. He is indeed Most Merciful to you."
   - **Note**: The mention of God "driving" the ship in the sea emphasizes the divine guidance and mercy in human navigation endeavors.

4. Surah Fatir (35:12):
   - "Nor are the two seas alike: this one palatable, sweet and pleasant to drink, and that a salt and bitter. Yet from both you eat fresh tender meat (fish), and derive the ornaments which you wear. And you see the ships cleaving (the sea-water as they sail through it), that you may seek of His Bounty, and that you may give thanks."
   - **Note**: The ships "cleaving" the waters, navigating through different types of seas, again underlines the divine mercy and provision in human navigation.

5. Surah Ya-Sin (36:43):
   - "If We willed, We could drown them; then no one responding would there be for them, nor would they be saved."
   - **Note**: In the context of the preceding verses that discuss ships and navigation, this verse serves as a reminder of God's ultimate control over the seas and the ships that navigate them.

In these verses, while the act of navigation is a human endeavor, it is deeply intertwined with the divine mercy and guidance that makes such navigation possible. The Qur'an emphasizes the dependency of humans on God's provisions, even in their most advanced and skilled activities, such as sea navigation.

 

 

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The need for this question is a good illustration of the limitations of AI. You'll have noted that stars were not mentioned in its previous answer and the app had to be explicitly asked about them.

Are stars mentioned as an aid to navigation?

Yes, stars are mentioned in the Qur'an as aids to navigation, particularly for travelers during the night. Here are the relevant verses:

1. Surah Al-An'am (6:97):
   - "And it is He who produced for you the stars to guide you in the darkness of the land and sea. We have detailed the signs for a people who know."
   - **Note**: In this verse, stars are explicitly mentioned as guides for travelers in the darkness, both on land and at sea.

2. Surah Al-Nahl (16:16):
   - "And landmarks. And by the stars they are [also] guided."
   - **Note**: Here again, stars are indicated as guiding landmarks for travelers.

3. Surah Al-Furqan (25:61):
   - "Blessed is He who placed in the sky great stars and placed therein a [burning] lamp and luminous moon."
   - **Note**: While this verse emphasizes the beauty and grandeur of the celestial bodies God created, the mention of "great stars" can also allude to their significance as navigation aids, given the cultural and historical context of their use in ancient navigation.

The Qur'an, while highlighting the spiritual and cosmic significance of stars, also acknowledges their practical use in navigation, emphasizing the multiple layers of purpose and benefit that God's creations provide to humanity.

 

 

 

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And now we get to the crux of the issue.

Where stars are mentioned in the context of guides, what roots are used for the latter and do they link with roots related to epistemology and knowledge?

When stars are mentioned as guides in the Qur'an, the Arabic root commonly used for "guide" or "guidance" is {هـ د ي} (H-D-Y). Let's examine the relevant instances and see if there are any connections with roots related to epistemology and knowledge:

1. Surah Al-An'am (6:97):
   - Arabic: وَهُوَ الَّذِي جَعَلَ لَكُمُ النُّجُومَ لِتَهْتَدُوا بِهَا فِي ظُلُمَاتِ الْبَرِّ وَالْبَحْرِ ...
   - Translation: "And it is He who produced for you the stars to guide you تَهْتَدُوا from {هـ د ي} in the darkness of the land and sea..."
   - **Connection with Epistemology**: The root {هـ د ي}  is central to the concept of guidance in the Qur'an, encompassing both spiritual and practical guidance. The act of guidance inherently implies acquiring knowledge or understanding to make informed decisions or take a correct path.

2. Surah Al-Nahl (16:16):
   - Arabic: وَعَلَامَاتٍ وَبِالنَّجْمِ هُمْ يَهْتَدُونَ
   - Translation: "And landmarks. And by the stars they are guided يَهْتَدُونَ from {هـ د ي}."
   - **Connection with Epistemology**: Again, guidance here can be understood both in the literal sense (physical navigation) and the metaphorical sense (seeking the right path or understanding).

Now, regarding the connection with roots related to epistemology and knowledge:

The root {هـ د ي} (H-D-Y) itself is inherently connected to the acquisition of knowledge and understanding, as guidance often involves obtaining and following knowledge. This root appears in various forms throughout the Qur'an to denote guidance, leading, showing the way, etc. Many verses couple this root with other roots related to knowledge, such as {ع ل م} (‘A-L-M) meaning "to know", emphasizing the close relationship between guidance and knowledge.

For instance, the Qur'an says in Surah Al-Mujadila (58:11):
- Arabic: يَرْفَعِ اللَّهُ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا مِنكُمْ وَالَّذِينَ أُوتُوا الْعِلْمَ دَرَجَاتٍ
- Translation: "Allah will raise those who have believed among you and those who were given knowledge by degrees."

The elevation of those "who were given knowledge" indicates the esteemed position of knowledge in guiding one's actions and understanding.

In summary, the concept of guidance from {هـ د ي}  is intrinsically linked with the acquisition and application of knowledge in the Qur'an. The mention of stars as guides serves as a practical example of this relationship, where observable phenomena (stars) provide knowledge (navigation) that guides human behavior.

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In relation to ships and the sea, the word ‘subjected’ is used in your translation. What’s the Arabic, and what is the root?
 

The word “subjected” in the context of ships and the sea often translates from the Arabic word “سَخَّرَ” (sakhkhara). The root of this word is {س-خ-ر} (S-KH-R). This root conveys the idea of subjugation, making something subservient or facilitating something for use.

For instance, in Surah An-Nahl (16:14), the verse goes:

    •    Arabic: وَهُوَ الَّذِي سَخَّرَ الْبَحْرَ …
    •    Translation: “And it is He who subjected the sea …”

The use of “سَخَّرَ” (sakhkhara) in such contexts emphasizes the idea that God has made certain elements of nature subservient or beneficial to humans, highlighting His mercy and providence. The concept of “subjection” in the Qur’an often serves to remind humans of God’s favors and their own dependence on these divine provisions.

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Please do a semantic field analysis of s-kh-r
 

Certainly! The root {س-خ-ر} (S-KH-R) carries the core meaning of “subjugation,” “making subservient,” or “facilitating for use.” Let’s delve into a semantic field analysis to uncover the various nuances and associated concepts linked to this root in the Qur’an:

    1.    Subjugation of Nature:
    •    The Qur’an frequently uses this root in the context of God making various elements of nature subservient to humans. This includes the seas, the winds, the sun, the moon, and animals. Such verses highlight God’s mercy and the favors He has bestowed upon humanity.
    •    Examples include:
    •    Surah An-Nahl (16:14): “And it is He who subjected (سَخَّرَ) the sea so that you eat from it tender meat and extract from it ornaments which you wear.”
    •    Surah Az-Zukhruf (43:13): “…that you may settle yourselves upon their backs and then remember the favor of your Lord when you have settled upon them and say. ‘Exalted is He who has subjected (سَخَّرَ) this to us, and we could not have [otherwise] subdued it.’”
    2.    Human Control and Authority:
    •    While the majority of the Qur’anic uses of this root refer to God’s subjugation of nature for humans, there are instances where humans are granted power or authority over others, indicating a form of subjugation.
    3.    Facilitation and Ease:
    •    The idea of “subjugation” also carries the connotation of “facilitation” or “making things easy.” When God “subjects” something for human benefit, it is not just about control but also about making it beneficial and easy to use.
    4.    Reminder of Dependency:
    •    The repeated mention of God’s act of subjugation serves as a reminder to humans of their dependency on God’s provisions. By realizing that many of the things they take for granted are, in fact, divine favors, humans are encouraged to be grateful and conscious of God’s role in their lives.

Related Words:

    •    {مُسَخَّر} (Musakhkhar): Something that has been made subservient or subjected.
    •    {تَسْخِير} (Taskhīr): The act of subjugating or making something subservient.

Associated Concepts:

    •    Gratitude: Recognizing the numerous elements of nature and life that have been made subservient to humans naturally leads to feelings of gratitude and appreciation.
    •    Reflection: The act of reflecting on God’s favors and blessings, especially those elements of nature and life made subservient for human benefit.

In conclusion, the root {س-خ-ر} (S-KH-R) in the Qur’an encompasses a range of concepts related to subjugation, facilitation, divine favors, and human dependency on God’s provisions. The frequent mention of this root in various contexts serves to remind the reader or listener of God’s mercy, power, and the many blessings He has bestowed upon humanity.

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Does the word subjugation in Arabic carry the same connotations as it does in English?
 

In Arabic, the word “سَخَّرَ” (sakhkhara) from the root {س-خ-ر} (S-KH-R) carries the primary meaning of “to make subservient,” “to subject,” or “to facilitate for use.” While it can be translated as “subjugation” in English, the connotations can differ based on the cultural and linguistic nuances of each language.

    1.    Connotations in Arabic:
    •    Divine Mercy and Blessing: When the Qur’an uses “سَخَّرَ” in the context of God making elements of nature subservient to humans, it emphasizes God’s mercy, blessings, and the favors He has bestowed upon humanity. It’s a way of highlighting that these natural elements are at humanity’s service by God’s will.
    •    Facilitation: The word also carries a connotation of “facilitation” or “making things easy.” It’s not just about control but also about making something beneficial and easily accessible.
    2.    Connotations in English:
    •    Control and Domination: In English, “subjugation” often carries a more forceful connotation, implying dominance, control, or even oppression. It can have a negative tone when referring to one group of people subjugating another.
    •    Lack of Agency: “Subjugation” can imply that the one being subjugated lacks agency or freedom.

When translating “سَخَّرَ” from Arabic to English, it’s essential to consider the context to choose the most appropriate translation. For example, when referring to God making the seas or animals subservient to humans, “subjected” or “made subservient” might be more fitting than “subjugated” to avoid negative connotations.

In summary, while there’s an overlap in the meanings of “سَخَّرَ” in Arabic and “subjugation” in English, the cultural and contextual connotations can differ. In the Qur’anic context, the Arabic term often has a more positive and merciful connotation, emphasizing God’s blessings and facilitation for humanity.\

 

Haji's note

The following text, does indeed prefer subservient to subjugated.

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while the stars provide them with a means of navigation or guidance on both land and sea (v. 16). To describe something as subservient implies the existence of a conscious will that is constrained to obey and serve another. Because the sun, the moon, and other phenomena that are described as subservient are understood to be inanimate objects, some consider their “subservience” merely a metaphor for God’s creating them in a particular way to serve their designated function. However, others suggest that the Divine Command by which they are made subservient is actually a “prescriptive command,” which these phenomena obey as a matter of religious responsibility (R).

Nasr, Seyyed Hossein; Dagli, Caner K.; Dakake, Maria Massi; Lumbard, Joseph E.B.; Rustom, Mohammed. The Study Quran (p. 658). HarperCollins. Kindle Edition. 

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Above you have said that concepts associated with s-kh-r are gratitude and reflection, on what basis are they associated with s-kh-r?

The association of the concepts of gratitude and reflection with the root {س-خ-ر} \) (S-KH-R) is derived from the thematic content and context in which the root appears in the Qur'an. Let's delve into these associations:

1. Gratitude:
   - The Qur'an frequently uses the root {س-خ-ر} \) (S-KH-R) to describe how God has made various elements of nature subservient or beneficial for humans. This includes the seas, the winds, the sun, the moon, and animals. The mention of these favors is often juxtaposed with the idea that humans should recognize and be thankful for them.
   - For instance, in Surah An-Nahl (16:14), the Qur'an mentions that God has "subjected" the sea for humans, allowing them to extract food and ornaments from it. The subsequent verses of this Surah list various other favors and blessings of God, emphasizing the importance of recognizing and being grateful for them.

2. Reflection:
   - The subjugation or facilitation of natural elements for human benefit is not just mentioned as a statement of fact but also as a point of contemplation. The Qur'an often pairs these descriptions with rhetorical questions or statements encouraging reflection.
   - For instance, in Surah Az-Zukhruf (43:12-13), after mentioning that God is the one who "created all kinds of things and gave you ships and animals to ride upon so that you may settle yourselves upon their backs," the verse ends with: "then remember the favor of your Lord when you have settled upon them and say. 'Exalted is He who has subjected this to us, and we could not have [otherwise] subdued it.'"
   - The act of reflecting upon these signs and recognizing the inability of humans to have these benefits without God's intervention is a form of reflection that the Qur'an encourages.

In essence, the thematic context of the verses containing the root {س-خ-ر} often emphasizes the importance of recognizing God's favors and reflecting upon them. The act of recognizing these favors naturally leads to feelings of gratitude, while the contemplation of their significance and our dependency on them encourages reflection.

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8 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

Is ChatGPT finding all the occurrences?

Very many thanks for this. Much appreciated. No doubt a more exhaustive approach will likely surface more angles to the discussion.

There are absolutely tons of shall we say 'issues' with using chatgpt.

All I am doing at this stage is putting out there what I hope is a transparent audit trail of what I am doing, with the hope that as you have done someone comes along to pick them up or come back myself at some point to validate and check what I am finding.

Not only that, but as you'll have seen in this thread there are also issues to do with the words used in translations and exploring their nuances. Also in this thread I showed that I had to bring up the point about stars explicitly and it does not do that by itself.

As you'll see at the moment it's almost a full-time job just posting up the wealth of topics that can be explored.

Thanks again.

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9 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

Is ChatGPT finding all the occurrences?

https://corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp?q=flk

I asked it:

In the list above about occurrences of f-l-k are you sure your list was comprehensive?

This is its answer:

I apologize for the oversight. My earlier response may not have provided a comprehensive list of all occurrences of the root {ف-ل-ك} ) (F-L-K) in the Qur’an. To ensure a more comprehensive view, it would be best to consult a Qur’anic concordance or a detailed database.

The root {ف-ل-ك} (F-L-K), generally referring to celestial orbits, divisions, or ships, appears in multiple contexts throughout the Qur’an. Given the richness of the Qur’anic text, it’s possible I missed a few instances.

If you’re seeking a comprehensive list, I’d recommend utilizing specialized Qur’anic databases or software that allow for precise root-based searches. This will provide you with all the verses containing that specific root.

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13 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

Is ChatGPT finding all the occurrences?

https://corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp?q=flk

 

Thanks for this list. I went to that link and copied pasted all the occurrences identified. I then gave chatgpt the following prompt:

This is a complete list of references to ship(s) in the Qur'an can you identify any other roots that commonly appear in these ayats?

It provided a listing and I followed up with this prompt:

Thanks for this. Can you please tabulate the material you have provided above and for each of the roots you have identified have a column showing what the meanings are (as you have done) and then in another column identify which verses they appear in. Please use your judgement to assess what other columns may be useful.

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Is gratitude immanent within navigation?

This line of enquiry is a good example of how gpt4 tries hard to be 'nice'. I am looking for a link between gratitude and navigation, and it tries its hardest to find one - which it does find, but my assessment is that this does seem to be somewhat tenuous. Happy to be corrected though!

Thank you, I wanted to check the following. It is said that the notion of risk is immanent within the concept of trust because in order to demonstrate trust in someone you have to take a risk with them. In a similar way is gratitude immanent within navigation?

The concept of gratitude being immanent within navigation in the Qur'anic context is an interesting notion to explore. Here's how the two can be seen as interconnected:

1. **Recognition of Dependency**: Navigation, especially in historical contexts when the Qur'an was revealed, was fraught with risks. Mariners were at the mercy of the sea, weather conditions, and their limited knowledge of maritime routes. This dependency on forces beyond human control creates a sense of vulnerability. Recognizing this vulnerability and then safely navigating through it can lead to gratitude, acknowledging the higher power that made the journey successful.

2. **The Gift of Knowledge**: The ability to navigate, whether by stars, landmarks, or other means, is a form of knowledge. In the Qur'an, knowledge is often portrayed as a gift from God. Those who possess and use this gift successfully have another reason to be grateful.

3. **Bounties of the Sea**: The Qur'an mentions the benefits humans derive from the sea, such as food, pearls, and trade opportunities. Safe and successful navigation allows humans to access these bounties. The realization of these benefits can evoke gratitude.

4. **Survival and Prosperity**: Safe navigation ensures not just the survival of the sailors but also the prosperity of societies that depended on maritime trade. Recognizing the role of the divine in this prosperity can be a source of gratitude.

5. **Physical Manifestation of Divine Signs**: The Qur'an often points to the natural world as a sign (Ayat) of God's existence and attributes. The vastness of the sea, the orderliness of the celestial bodies used for navigation, and the perfection of natural laws that allow for navigation can all be seen as signs. Reflecting on these signs can lead to gratitude.

In summary, while navigation itself is a human endeavor, the Qur'anic perspective embeds it within a larger cosmic order governed by divine will. Successfully navigating within this order and benefiting from it becomes a reason for gratitude. So, in this context, one could argue that gratitude is immanent within navigation, as the act of navigation continuously reminds one of the divine favors and the need for gratitude.

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      Edited 1st July 2024 to improve clarity. Edited 20th July 2024 to include a more detailed reference to face validity. Added reference to Lindt 27th August 2024.
       
      Summary
      Just because something is not created via the scientific method, does not mean it can't be useful - implications about how we think about religious precepts.
      Serendipity (pot luck)
      I have previously noted how, in some fields of human endeavour, the scientific approach is held to be the ideal. In reality however human scientific and technological discoveries have often been the result of luck and even mistakes.
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn47zg3xgxxo
      Social science 'theories'
      There is a corollary in the field of the social sciences which also emphasise the value of the scientific approach to generate knowledge. In this domain the anomalies are various frameworks and models that are widely taught and even used, but which have no basis in rigorous scientific research.
      The famous work by Abraham Maslow on motivation and his resulting 'hierarchy of needs' is very widely studied and used. He posits that human motivation at the fundamental level is driven by physiological needs, and once these are satisfied (he did qualify this in later works) people try and address safety needs and then, social needs and self-esteem and finally self-actualisation. 
      But Maslow did not come up with this through any research that would hold up to scientific scrutiny.
      Does the lack of a scientific approach invalidate a model or framework?
      Yet the Maslow hierarchy is productively used by professionals in a variety of industries, managers, MBA students and others in universities. For example, people use it to understand why consumers buy certain products.
      The same issue applies to Bloom's taxonomy in the field of learning and also Elmo's buying funnel in the area of marketing. The three laws of robotics have their basis in science fiction and in the area of web searching there is no scientific basis for the information-navigational-transactional categories that are used.
      Face validity
      The implication from this is that while ideas and knowledge may ideally be the result of the scientific approach i.e. hypothesising and then testing, there are many instances where this is not the case. In the area of the social sciences and management the value of some types of knowledge seems to rest on their 'face validity', do they make sense to practitioners? Can those individuals make better sense of their external environment as a result of using these tools and if they can, that is good enough?
      I should point out at this stage that the term face validity has a specific meaning in the realm of research methods. It refers to whether for example, ordinary users of health services believe that the questionnaire items used to measure a specific condition make sense to them. The following paper provides an illustration of the concept with a worked example of how a measure used to assess Recovering Quality of Life was developed following input from lay patients.
       https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5997715/
      Implications for religion
      The same principle could surely apply to various aspects of religion. There may be no scientific proof underpinning various religious ideas and injunctions, but if they have face validity, if they help the individual make sense of their external environment, manage it and live what they consider a better life, surely that is good enough?
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      In a quiet, sunlit café nestled in the heart of an old city, two artists sat across from each other, their voices low and contemplative. The first, Clara, was a digital artist whose work had brought her acclaim over the past decade. Her short, tousled hair framed a face that bore the marks of countless hours spent in front of a screen, her fingers still twitching as if they were drawing on an invisible tablet. Opposite her sat Daniel, a younger artist who had recently burst onto the scene with his AI-generated masterpieces. His eyes sparkled with the thrill of new possibilities, yet there was a tension in his voice as he spoke.
      “It’s not just about the art anymore,” Daniel was saying, his tone a mixture of excitement and anxiety. “It’s about the code, the algorithms. I don’t even need to draw anymore; the AI does it for me. But I can’t help but wonder… what happens when the AI learns to create without me? What if I become obsolete?”
      Clara nodded, her expression understanding but conflicted. “I know the feeling. I’ve spent years perfecting my digital techniques, mastering tools that were meant to make my life easier, not replace me. Now, all I hear about are these AI programs that can mimic my style in seconds. It feels like the ground is shifting beneath my feet.”
      As if summoned by their words, the door to the café swung open, and a third artist entered. His clothes were splattered with paint, his hands stained with the colors of his latest work. He carried with him an air of nostalgia, as if he had stepped out of another time entirely. This was Vincent, a veteran of the traditional art world, who had made his name with hand-drawn and hand-colored pieces, long before the advent of digital art.
      He approached their table with a wry smile, having overheard the tail end of their conversation. “Mind if I join you?” he asked, not waiting for an answer as he pulled up a chair. “I couldn’t help but overhear. Your worries sound awfully familiar.”
      Clara and Daniel exchanged glances, intrigued by this interruption. Vincent continued, his voice thick with the weight of years spent battling his own obsolescence. “You know, there was a time when I was the one being pushed aside. When digital art first started gaining traction, I was furious. How could something created on a computer, with no paint, no brush, no tactile connection to the canvas, be considered real art? I watched as galleries that once displayed my work shifted to showcasing digital creations. I felt like the world was moving on without me.”
      Clara leaned forward, her curiosity piqued. “What did you do?”
      Vincent chuckled, though there was a trace of bitterness in his laugh. “I adapted. I learned to incorporate digital techniques into my work, found a way to blend the old with the new. But the feeling never quite left me—that nagging fear that everything I’d worked for could be erased with the click of a mouse.”
      Daniel frowned, his youthful confidence shaken. “So, this is just… a cycle? Each generation of artists fears being replaced by the next?”
      “Seems that way,” Vincent replied, his eyes softening with empathy. “But here’s the thing: art isn’t just about the tools we use. It’s about the vision behind it. Machines, AI, computers—they can mimic, they can replicate, but they can’t feel. They can’t see the world the way we do. That’s something they’ll never take away from us.”
      The three artists sat in silence, contemplating the inevitability of change, but also the enduring nature of creativity. In that moment, they understood the irony that connected them—a shared fear of obsolescence that, in truth, only underscored the timelessness of art itself.
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      [Originally posted in 2021, updated with a summary and small corrections. Further additions in 2024, with references to Oppenheimer and supporting quotations.]
      Summary
      Good people can focus on doing good. Bad people who are motivated by the nafs can be told of the harms in engaging in it, but it's likely that they will persist. Sometimes however evil leads to some positive outcomes - good people can benefit from these, while still maintaining the wrongfulness of the initial action. 
      The slipstream
      Where you have two runners or cars, for example, the runner/car who is second benefits from the slipstream of the person in front. The slipstream refers to their meeting less air resistance due to the air being pushed to the side by the person/car in front.
      I still remember a Goldman Sachs report from around 2000 which predicted that the technology for streaming videos would initially be funded by the purveyors of porn - which is where the money was.
      Once online video streaming became mainstream, it was used by others, e.g., to educate others, pass on useful instructions to others, and even disseminate religious knowledge. Islamic scholars don't deny the use of such streaming technology because of its antecedents.
      It is said that Robert Oppenheimer lived with the guilt of his atomic bomb being used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki:
      https://www.nbc.com/nbc-insider/did-oppenheimer-ever-apologize-for-the-atomic-bomb
       
      But there was also a spin-off benefit for the rest of us:
      https://bioethicsarchive.georgetown.edu/achre/final/intro_3.html
       
      When evil leads to good
      We can see similar examples where evil people inspired and motivated by greed or domination go on to do things that can then be used by good people for better ends. Some medical advances in the 20th century (which we all use today) can be attributed to the evil of the Nazis
      https://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/is-it-acceptable-to-use-data-from-nazi-medical-experiments-1.4388509
       
      and the NASA space programme was a prime beneficiary of Nazi developments in rocketry.
      https://www.nasa.gov/people/wernher-von-braun/
       
      An historical precedent
      I think an early example of bad people doing things with positive consequences is Khalid ibn al-Walid's initial foray into Persia followed by Umar ibn Khattab's conquest of the country.
      and the evil-doers acted out of free will
      Indeed, if there are people who, despite information to the contrary, are willing to undertake tasks that contravene moral/ethical scruples - then who are we to complain? No one held a gun to their heads to force them to take those actions. They acted out of free will. If their actions have unintended benefits for others who can put those achievements to good use - that's a gain courtesy of Satan.
      It's not just good and evil...
      At the moment there are various technologies that are problematic for Muslims e.g. using pigs for human transplantation. But these are only a point along the development journey to having similar technology being used without pigs. So the current work of non-Muslims has the potential for future Muslim benefit.
      A personal insight
      In the financial markets there are various financial instruments that to my understanding are haram. Spreadbets involve paying interest to a financial intermediary in order to buy far larger quantities of shares (or other commodity) than one could afford with ones own capital. The 'bet' is that the investment will rise and enable the investor to walk away with a much larger return than would have been possible without the leverage provided by the spread betting company. This type of investing can cause harm to the individuals practising it, because losses can be greater than the amounts invested and it can lead to greater volatility in the markets themselves. Knowing that some shares are popular with small investors using spread bets means that other investors may consider it wise to sell when shares are peaking (because leveraged investors are buying) and to buy when they collapse because leveraged investors have had their trades closed. What is wrong behaviour by market participants can therefore create an opportunity for those who are prepared to play the long game.
      Yet it could be argued that a capitalist system that encourages such a speculative mentality has enabled the funnelling of trillions of dollars across the world towards the development of e.g. internet technology that may otherwise not have happened or it would have happened at a much slower pace.
      For Muslims then, there needs to be a recognition that what is happening around them may well be beneficial in the long-run, but in the short-run there may be practices that are wrong and in which they should not partake.
      Individuals and societies
      This works at both the level of the individual and that of societies. The latter may well achieve great accomplishments, while still being 'bad', and there are historical examples of societies being much more advanced than others of their time in technological and scientific terms, but still undertaking evil cultural practices. Any scientific knowledge that they passed on would still have been valuable.
      Today there can be a tendency of those who have made technological gains to ascribe these to their cultural norms and values - which Muslims may consider to be wrong from an ethical perspective. The ideology of their cultures may or may not have facilitated the advancement - but it does not validate the the ethics of their ideology. For example communism brought a large section of Eastern Europe and Western Asia out of the feudal age and arguably enabled the world to beat Nazism - but does that endorse Communists' correctness of mass collectivisation and the stamping out of religion? No it does not.
      a. Communism
      Communism is an interesting ideology that shows how it is possible to achieve success for a limited period of time, but to ultimately lose out in the war of longevity. Individuals who subscribed to Marxism were wrong. The whole society was bad. But while condemning both, we can walk away with the benefits they left us with.
      b. European slavery system
      There was a whole ideology underpinning this purely evil practice. Argued by some to be based on a reading of the Bible that held black people to be sub-human and treated as property*, the system enabled the development of cash crops in the Americas and provided the foundation of modern consumer societies. Ultimately it came to be seen for the evil that it was.
      What Egyptians, Communism, Nazism and the European slavery system of the 19th century and other ideologies have in common is that they are now defunct. They enabled progress to be made in some areas, but in the long term they offered no solutions to address human needs.
      The lessons for Muslims (starting with Pharoah's wife) has simply been to hang around in order to pick up the pieces and ensure that our ideology persists and outlasts the next round of evil-doers.
      In an ideal world ...
      People would be inspired to innovate, create and advance based purely on the motivations provided by God. But this ideal does not always happen. 
      *Muslims have been accused of having slavery systems as well. But those were completely different in terms of both practice and moral implications.
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      The proposition that the British Empire "never really went away" but instead "downsized" reflects a view of post-colonial influence that suggests continuity between the British Empire's formal rule and its present-day economic and political ties, particularly with the rich Arab Gulf states. While the British Empire as a formal political entity dissolved in the mid-20th century, this perspective argues that Britain's influence persisted, transforming from direct colonial rule to a more subtle but still significant form of power and influence.
      Economic Ties and Arms Trade
      One of the most visible aspects of this continuing influence is the strong economic ties between the UK and the Arab Gulf states, including Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, and others. The UK is a significant exporter of arms to these countries, with Saudi Arabia being one of the largest customers. This arms trade not only supports British industries and employment but also reinforces political and military relationships between the UK and these Gulf states. The reliance of these nations on British military technology and expertise can be seen as a continuation of the influence that Britain once exerted more overtly during the imperial period.
      Investments in British Property and Economy
      Arab Gulf states have also invested heavily in the British economy, particularly in real estate, financial services, and other high-profile sectors. London's property market, for instance, has seen substantial investment from Gulf monarchies and sovereign wealth funds. These investments benefit the British economy and contribute to the UK's status as a global financial hub. The economic interdependence created by these investments is another form of influence, where former colonies (or regions within the imperial sphere) now play a crucial role in the British economy.
      Employment for British Expats
      The presence of British expatriates in the Gulf states, particularly in high-skilled sectors such as finance, education, and engineering, reflects another layer of this ongoing relationship. British professionals are often sought after for their expertise and experience, and their employment in these regions can be traced back to historical ties established during the colonial period. The continued demand for British expertise suggests a lasting influence and a form of soft power, where British culture, education, and professional norms continue to shape the region.
      Political Influence and Leadership Support
      The assertion that the leaders of these Gulf states were either appointed by Britain or have their tenure supported by Britain touches on the historical reality that many current Gulf monarchies have roots in British colonial or protectorate arrangements. For example, the Al-Saud family in Saudi Arabia and the Al-Thani family in Qatar consolidated power during periods when Britain had significant influence over the Arabian Peninsula. While these leaders are now independent, the historical ties and ongoing strategic partnerships suggest that Britain continues to exert some level of influence, particularly through defense agreements and diplomatic support.
      Continuity of Influence
      The idea that the British Empire "downsized" rather than disappeared reflects the continuity of influence, albeit in a different form. The mechanisms of control and influence have shifted from direct colonial administration to economic dependency, strategic partnerships, and soft power. The British Empire in its classical form may be gone, but the relationships, institutions, and dependencies it created continue to shape international relations and economics in ways that can be seen as a legacy of that empire.
      Counterarguments
      However, it is also important to consider the counterarguments to this proposition. The Gulf states are now sovereign nations with their own complex political dynamics, and their relationship with Britain is one of mutual interest rather than imperial domination. The influence of other global powers, such as the United States and China, also plays a significant role in these regions, which complicates the notion that Britain maintains a unique or dominant position of influence.
      In conclusion, while the British Empire as a formal entity no longer exists, the networks of influence, economic ties, and political relationships established during the imperial period have persisted in ways that benefit the UK. These relationships, particularly with the Arab Gulf states, suggest that Britain's influence did not vanish but instead evolved, leading to a form of continuity that some might argue represents a "downsized" empire.
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      In this thread there was a half jokey but also serious issue that I raised:
      At some point Muslims will ask whether conjugal relations with androids are allowed and we can predict the answer will be no.
       
      Since I first started that thread a lot has happened and I think it's worth introducing some new variables to the discussion.
      There was a time when men who dressed as women (and vice versa) did so either for humour or if it was in some way related to their sexuality the attempt would seem a bit ridiculous. Nowadays though fantasy can be more readily realised with the aid of technology.
      In a similar vein men who play with dolls (this is serious, stay with me) are faintly creepy and weird. But technology moves on and at some point the dolls will pass for humans. While orthodox Muslims may well be aghast at the idea of relations between us and the androids, clearly this will be considered to be progress amongst some people. They may not currently regard it as such but their ideological progeny will.
      But then another issue will emerge. If someone gains emotional and other forms of support from their android, what if they want to pass on their wealth to the android?
       
      https://www.ft.com/content/b9b78aae-1f32-11e9-a46f-08f9738d6b2b
       
      So while we have had dystopian science fiction prognosticating about robots AI becoming 'self-aware' and stealing the planet from us what if such a loss can happen without such a confrontational dystopia?
      What if large numbers of humans give up on human-to-human relations and instead take up with androids who will never argue back, will always say yes and be physically whatever people want them to be.
      And as a reward for this their human companions leave their possessions to robots?
      It could be that it is selfishness and narcissism that disinherits us and nothing more sinister.
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      What follows below, starting with "Historical Context" is chatgpt's analysis.
      My initial prompt is in the next post. The analysis starts with a statement of historical 'facts', framed pretty much in the way you would expect a western source to analyse the issue. 
      But the section that chatgpt titles, "Hypothetical outcomes ..." and the "Conclusion" are not exactly what I would have expected such a source to say, perhaps it's the result of how I wrote the original prompt?
       
      The contention that Palestinian actions would not have altered the current situation, given Israeli military superiority and claims over Jerusalem, is complex and multifaceted. It involves historical, political, and social dimensions that have shaped the Israeli-Palestinian conflict over the past century. Here are some key points to consider:
       
       Historical Context
      1. Balfour Declaration and Mandate Period:
         - The Balfour Declaration of 1917 and the subsequent British Mandate for Palestine established a framework that favored the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine. This set the stage for future conflicts over land and national identity.
      2. 1947 UN Partition Plan:
         - The United Nations proposed a partition plan in 1947 to create separate Jewish and Arab states, with Jerusalem as an international city. Jewish leaders accepted the plan, but Arab leaders rejected it, leading to the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.
      3. 1948 and 1967 Wars:
         - The 1948 War led to the establishment of the State of Israel and the displacement of many Palestinians (Nakba). The 1967 Six-Day War resulted in Israel's occupation of East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and Gaza Strip, solidifying Israeli control over these areas.
       
       Israeli Claims and Military Superiority
      1. Jerusalem as Israel's Capital:
         - Israeli leaders have consistently claimed Jerusalem as the undivided, eternal capital of Israel. This claim has been reinforced by various Israeli governments and supported by significant segments of Israeli society.
      2. Military Superiority:
         - Israel's military strength has been a decisive factor in the conflict. Its advanced military capabilities, supported by substantial foreign aid, particularly from the United States, have ensured its dominance in the region.
       
       Palestinian Responses and Strategies
      1. Armed Resistance vs. Diplomacy:
         - Palestinians have employed various strategies, including armed resistance and diplomatic efforts. Armed resistance has often been met with overwhelming military responses from Israel, leading to significant loss of life and infrastructure damage.
         - Diplomatic efforts, such as participation in peace processes (Oslo Accords, Camp David Summit, etc.), have sought to achieve a two-state solution but have faced numerous obstacles, including settlement expansion and internal political divisions.
      2. International Support and Advocacy:
         - Palestinians have garnered significant international support and recognition, with many countries and international organizations advocating for their right to self-determination. However, this has not translated into a resolution of the conflict.
       
       Hypothetical Outcomes of Palestinian Passivity
      1. Unlikely Changes in Israeli Policies:
         - Given Israel's strategic and ideological commitments to its territorial claims, it is unlikely that Palestinian passivity would have led to a significantly different outcome. Israeli policies have been driven by security concerns, historical claims, and political dynamics independent of Palestinian actions.
      2. Internal and External Pressures on Israel:
         - While Palestinian passivity might have reduced immediate conflict, it is uncertain whether it would have altered long-term Israeli policies. Internal Israeli politics, regional dynamics, and international pressures play crucial roles in shaping the conflict's trajectory.
       
       Conclusion
      The argument that Palestinian actions would not have changed the current outcome, given Israeli claims and military superiority, rests on the premise that Israel's strategic and ideological commitments to an undivided Jerusalem and broader territorial control are deeply entrenched. While Palestinian strategies have varied, the fundamental asymmetry in power and the entrenched nature of Israeli claims suggest that different Palestinian actions might not have led to a substantially different outcome. The conflict's resolution likely requires significant shifts in both Israeli and Palestinian policies, as well as sustained international engagement.
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      The view from the Temple of Hatshepsut. Maryam had the idea for how this would work and it did with some post-processing.
       
      Both ancient Egyptian queens and both with a seemingly new cult in the 21st century.
      Obviously, the cult is not among actual worshippers but amongst tourists keen to see their monuments. Nefertari was the favourite wife of Pharaoh Ramesses II and as for Hatshepsut this is what Wikipedia has to say:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatshepsut
      While I have been in Luxor this year with the family the itinerary for touring came up and I suggested to the guide that may be the Hatshepsut temple was a bit overrated (based on my last visit in 2016), but he insisted and so we went. As I remembered it's a golf buggy ride from the entrance to the foot of a long flight of steps and when you get to the top - not really a great deal and a fair bit is seemingly reconstructed. I still think it is overrated. I'd much rather spend more time in the riot of hieroglyphics and colour that is the Madinet Habu (from Wiki):
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medinet_Habu
       
      As for Nefertari the guide and the local Egyptians felt that it was overrated particularly in light of the US$60 (!!!) entrance fee. This is a few times the going rate and such is the demand that you get 10 mins in the tomb. Obviously we did not go there!
      So going back to my earlier contention - what's the cult?
      It's the contemporary interest in women's empowerment, their positions in leadership roles, and so on. I am not challenging the validity of this interest. I am just drawing attention to how it manifests itself in tourists making choices about what to see, how much they pay to see it, and how much effort they put into doing so.
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