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Pyramids, aliens & God

Haji 2003

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There is a populist theory that the pyramids must have had an alien inspiration. This is because of the range of innovations that they represent and knowledge across multiple disciplines and their orientation towards certain constellations.

My problem with this theory is the bent pyramid at Dahshur. It's bent, because they got the maths wrong. Weird that aliens who managed to get to this planet but then got their measurements for a stone structure wrong. Seems pretty clear to me that the pyramids we see represent the refinement and development of Egyptian technology, rather than discrete alien intervention.

In contrast, this planet is stuffed full of interesting resources in quantities just right for exploitation at the time that they'd be needed and human development would have reached a stage to take advantage. That's a far more likely candidate as evidence of extra-terrestrial involvement in the seeding of this planet with the correct quantities of resources at the time of its creation. Given the nature and extent of such material, it's likely to have been something more advanced than aliens doing the seeding.

I was reminded of this by the current horseshoe crab shortage affecting north America. It seems as if they have been over-exploited because their blood contains a substance used to test medical products for the presence of bacteria.



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The Egyptian pyramids obviously aren't made by creatures like ourselves. There is no source of stone nearby. The stones are cut with amazing precision in an ancient time. The financial requirements to construct a pyramid are next to impossible even today.

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There is more evidence accumulating that they did have the methods for transporting stones e.g. the discovery recently of a ramp.

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/giza-pyramids-ramp-scli-intl/index.html

For me, the value of a human Egyptian civilisation is that it highlights how you can have a belief system that, for many centuries keeps coming up with amazing technology and artefacts.

And yet in the fullness of time, the significance of Egypt for later generations has been to provide the realisation that as far as their religion was concerned, other than providing modern day Egypt with a tourism industry, it was pretty much a waste of time.

As far as we are concerned today, there are and have been ideologies (such as capitalism and democracy) that may serve to motivate people to achieve great things in the short term and indeed much longer than that, but in the millennia to come they may be seen as anachronistic.

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On 11/7/2018 at 5:46 PM, Haji 2003 said:

There is more evidence accumulating that they did have the methods for transporting stones e.g. the discovery recently of a ramp.

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/giza-pyramids-ramp-scli-intl/index.html

For me, the value of a human Egyptian civilisation is that it highlights how you can have a belief system that, for many centuries keeps coming up with amazing technology and artefacts.

And yet in the fullness of time, the significance of Egypt for later generations has been to provide the realisation that as far as their religion was concerned, other than providing modern day Egypt with a tourism industry, it was pretty much a waste of time.

As far as we are concerned today, there are and have been ideologies (such as capitalism and democracy) that may serve to motivate people to achieve great things in the short term and indeed much longer than that, but in the millennia to come they may be seen as anachronistic.

My question is where are the quarries? Surely, large copious amounts of limestone had to come from somewhere and I am not convinced they were transported by water (The stones were half a ton to a ton in weight.)

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On 11/18/2018 at 7:44 AM, realizm said:

I tend to believe in jinns' intervention in ancient works like pyramids, roman, temples etc...

OK.

It does go against my argument that God allowed these ancient civilisations to develop their own knowledge, science and socio-economic systems to provide us with an evidence base that would demonstrate that it is possible to have an advanced culture - without having a belief system embedded in an Abrahamic God.

These civilsations can last a long time, but ultimately they will fail.

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1 hour ago, Haji 2003 said:

OK.

It does go against my argument that God allowed these ancient civilisations to develop their own knowledge, science and socio-economic systems to provide us with an evidence base that would demonstrate that it is possible to have an advanced culture - without having a belief system embedded in an Abrahamic God.

These civilsations can last a long time, but ultimately they will fail.

:salam:

That would not discard the using of occult forces.

Btw what makes me believe that is the enigmatic part of their realisation, not their conception. Like multi-ton megalithic blocks that no one can explain how they were cut or carried. 

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Jinns man jinns

they used to be our slaves 

we worked them raw

 One example of Jinns being used to create fantastic sites, Prophet Soloman(as) 

they have extradoniary strength but ultimately humans are masters over them...

those who practice occult behavior such as some Jews can still use Jinns for their works 

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50 minutes ago, Ralvi said:

those who practice occult behavior such as some Jews can still use Jinns for their works

Salam Quran reffers that after prophet Solomon (as) they tried to learn magic from them also they started praying them & in most occasions they pray Satan & jinns & in return they receive  a little help from them but they don't use them  , it's only Ahlulbay (as) & people that have authority from them can use them as slaves not Jews.

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2 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam Quran reffers that after prophet Solomon (as) they tried to learn magic from them also they started praying them & in most occasions they pray Satan & jinns & in return they receive  a little help from them but they don't use them  , it's only Ahlulbay (as) & people that have authority from them can use them as slaves not Jews.

Wasalaam,

Yeah this is the area I’m not very knowledgeable about haha 

my mother told me this and I thought wow it makes more sense than humans making pyramids! She didn’t give me much detail. She did the Asian thing and said a part of the story and then continued it years later lol leaving it to me to put it together and remember. It’s a head scratcher 

And I have little liking for the occult (just a little bit >.<) only in video games, you learn a lot actually. Like One game Shadow hearts(my fav rpg). It’s how I found out that prophet soloman is famous for controlling 72 ‘demons’ although we know they’re jinns

i just thought it was pretty neat

yeah I’m the type who believes somebody 100% they trust. So I trust everything my mother says lol

i agree they help us out but we do have some level of ‘ manipulation’ I guess? They’re weaker than us, not physically maybe more mentally 

I think not like modern day Jews, they’re still some Jews who will convert when the imam will come, those guys follow original Judaism and practice like we do. They’re prayers are like us and they have almost the same set of beliefs. They’re are some very good people of the book who follow the original word. I think

anyway, it’s interesting and I want to learn more 

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