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#1 Abdel Hassan

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Posted 04 February 2006 - 11:54 PM

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Thousands of Syrians protesting over offensive caricatures of Islam's prophet have been blocked from approaching the French embassy after torching the Danish and Norwegian embassies in Damascus.



Police fired tear gas and water cannons to disperse Saturday's demonstrators who crowded outside the Norwegian embassy after earlier setting fire to the Danish embassy six kilometres away.



Protesters broke through heavy police barriers and set fire to the four-storey building.



A Norwegian Foreign Ministry spokesman said there was nobody in the embassy at the time.



They also threw stones and smashed the windows of police cars, witnesses said.



The protesters then moved towards the French embassy, about nine kilometres away. Hundreds of Syrian policemen and soldiers struggled to close all roads to the embassy.



Hundreds more protesters broke through the barriers but were chased away by water cannons from fire engines before they got close to the building.

"It was totally unacceptable that Syrian authorities have not been able to protect the embassy"

Per Stig Moeller,
Danish foreign minister




Norway and Denmark advised their citizens to leave Syria as soon as possible.



The Danish embassy shares the building with the Swedish and Chilean embassies.



Per Stig Moeller, the Danish foreign minister, said: "It's horrible and totally unacceptable."



Moeller said he telephoned his Syrian counterpart, Farouk al-Sharaa, "to tell him it was totally unacceptable that Syrian authorities have not been able to protect the embassy".



He said al-Sharaa responded saying he regretted the incident.



Laila Freivalds, Sweden's foreign minister, said she has called in the Syrian ambassador in Stockholm for a meeting on Saturday night so Sweden can issue a formal protest.



Freivalds said: "I will deliver the protest and say that this has escalated too far. We expect the kind of protection we have a right to demand."
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Wish I was there..... :dry: :(

#2 Netzari

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Posted 04 February 2006 - 11:56 PM

(salam)

I wonder what would happen if the Danes returned the favor and torched the Syrian embassy?

:huh:

#3 Reepicheep

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 12:11 AM

an approximate paraphrase of what Abdel Hassan wrote:
> blah blah blah, kill the kufar, burn down all their
> buildings and churches... Muslims must rise up and
> KILL, KILL, KILL, make the streets of the European
> cities run red with the blood of kufar, kill them until
> the kufar admit that Islam is a religion of peace,
> blah blah blah, etc and so forth.

Poster "Anti-Wahhabi", in another thread, wrote an excellent post which saves me the trouble of writing a response to Abdel's hate filled rant:

Do you guys realize that these acts are merely proving the cartoonists right? Surely you all cannot be stupid enough to see that there is no positive outcome of torching embassies.? Now we look like a bunch of lunatics. How is setting fire to an embassy prove anything?? There might have been people inside. What exactly did they do? This is getting ridiculous.

All of you, seriously, get a grip. Burning down embassies, threatening innocent people, and burning Danish flags will NOT accomplish anything.

And to those idiots who think this will bring a powerful image, tell me what gain is there by threatening innocent Europeans? Threatening to target churches and European offices? The usual flag burning? Burning down and vandalizing buildings? We are making ourselves out to be a bunch of fanatical barbarians. Believe it or not, that is far from a powerful image. We fell into their trap and we fell hard. As usual, we are the laughing stock of the world. We preach peace yet turned around and do the complete opposite of it.



#4 Abdel Hassan

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 12:16 AM

Palestinian Muslims continue to stand up for Islam against the Kufar.
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Palestinian outrage


Palestinian youths protested
outside the EU office in Gaza




Palestinian youths tried to break into the European Union office in Gaza in protest over European newspapers printing cartoons of Prophet Muhammad.



The protesters threw stones at the EU office, burnt tyres outside and clashed with security forces when they tried to enter the compound. The police arrested two youths.


The youths took down the EU flag from the building and replaced it with the Palestinian flag.



They chanted slogans against Denmark and pledged to give their "blood to redeem the Prophet".


MAY Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì CONTINUE TO GIVE STRENTH TO THE MUSLIMS..

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 12:29 AM

Palestinian Muslims continue to stand up for Islam against the Kufar.
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Palestinian outrage


Palestinian youths protested
outside the EU office in Gaza




Palestinian youths tried to break into the European Union office in Gaza in protest over European newspapers printing cartoons of Prophet Muhammad.



The protesters threw stones at the EU office, burnt tyres outside and clashed with security forces when they tried to enter the compound. The police arrested two youths.
The youths took down the EU flag from the building and replaced it with the Palestinian flag.



They chanted slogans against Denmark and pledged to give their "blood to redeem the Prophet".
MAY Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì CONTINUE TO GIVE STRENTH TO THE MUSLIMS..

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And you seriously think, that this is no overreaction, Abdel? May who ever someday give you the ability to question yourself!

#6 Abdel Hassan

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 12:46 AM

Abdel's hate filled rant:


Yes I hate and detest anyone who insults the Prophet (pbuh) ..

Edited by Abdel Hassan, 05 February 2006 - 12:47 AM.


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Posted 05 February 2006 - 12:47 AM

Assalamalaikum,
Correct me if I'm worng but I dont' believe the cartoonists or any other person connected with the paper was inside the embassy. Islamically what they did was haraam. Did they give advanced notice? Did they clear out the women children and elderly? The embassy is also part of the country if one doesn't want it there close it dont' attack it. What was done helped our enemies.

Edited by yesI'moriginallyamerican, 08 February 2006 - 10:58 PM.


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Posted 05 February 2006 - 12:50 AM

I beg to ask,
Is there a Clash of Civilizations?

Wa Salaam,
Dhulfiqar

#9 Abdel Hassan

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 01:11 AM

Assalamalaikum,
Correct me if I'm worng but I dont' belive the cartoonists or any other person connected with the paper was inside the embassy. Islamically what they did was haraam. Did they give advanced notice? did they clear out the women children and elderly? Tehy embassy is also part of the country if tehy dont' want it there close it dont' attack it. What was done helped our enemies.

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Actually Sister, it isn't haram. First Jihad is an obligation of every Muslim , and defending the honor and name of the Prophet (pbuh) is something every Muslim should do, and its sad to see more Muslims not doing so..



Actually thier wasn't anyone in the embassy. .................

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 01:28 AM

... and defending the honor and name of the Prophet  (pbuh) is something every Muslim should do, and its sad to see more Muslims not doing so..

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I think I understand that, but are these people addressing right? Its an EU institution. Lumping together some cartoon "artists", a newspaper, the danish, the EU! Where is the end? It seems agression is going blind more and more.

One coiuld get the impression that these people are doing these things just for the sake of doing things: Ah, well, we have no danish embassy at hand, so lets just attack whats closest to it! Thats cheap, man!

Peace out anyway, Rene

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 01:56 AM

Actually Sister, it isn't haram. First Jihad is an obligation of every Muslim , and defending the honor and name of the Prophet  (pbuh) is something every Muslim should do, and its sad to see more Muslims not doing so..
Actually thier wasn't anyone in the embassy. .................

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Assalamalikum,
Are you aware of the rules for jihad as set forth by the Prophet pbuh?

#12 Abdel Hassan

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 02:15 AM

^

What are you talking about......????

Edited by Abdel Hassan, 05 February 2006 - 02:15 AM.


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Posted 05 February 2006 - 02:47 AM

Abdel Hassan supporting violence will not resolve anything. The prophet never resolved to violence unless and until he was attacked. I am sure you know better.

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 02:54 AM

^

Oh here we go now they think the response of the Muslims is bad.... God it seems oh hell never mind the Kufar will pay and the Muslims will stand for Islam , and those others will be exposed.... :)

Edited by Abdel Hassan, 05 February 2006 - 03:00 AM.


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Posted 05 February 2006 - 02:54 AM

Yeah right, and here are Shi'as talking such garbage about "peace" while our Prophet is insulted left and right! What happened to Shi'a Ali? What happened to Shi'a Hussein? Would you not defend Imam Hussein from insults, and attacks? And then these Shi'as talk such [Edited Out] about "peace?"

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 02:57 AM

Palestinian Muslims continue to stand up for Islam against the Kufar.
__________________________________________________________

Palestinian outrage


Palestinian youths protested
outside the EU office in Gaza




Palestinian youths tried to break into the European Union office in Gaza in protest over European newspapers printing cartoons of Prophet Muhammad.



The protesters threw stones at the EU office, burnt tyres outside and clashed with security forces when they tried to enter the compound. The police arrested two youths.
The youths took down the EU flag from the building and replaced it with the Palestinian flag.



They chanted slogans against Denmark and pledged to give their "blood to redeem the Prophet".
MAY Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì CONTINUE TO GIVE STRENTH TO THE MUSLIMS..

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Palestinians please they wont bite the hand wich feed them all they will do is talk talk talk else they will have to beg the jews for money if we stop paying.

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 04:40 AM

Although this whole episode is rather infuriating, I think the Muslims must go about it intelligently using arguments and absolutely peaceful demonstrations. Otherwise, we are playing into prejudices.

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 04:56 AM

Abdel you are a dum* idio* whats the point of rejoicing over such senseless voilence ..! If only I could dissociate myself from extremists and save myself alot of embarrasment.

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 06:16 AM

http://news.bbc.co.u...ast/4682560.stm

Edited by Firoz Ali, 05 February 2006 - 07:18 AM.


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Posted 05 February 2006 - 06:23 AM

Now, this is some 15th time the topic is being disscussed.

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 06:34 AM

(salam)
Instead of indulging in senseless violence against buildings and innocent diplomats / civilians, all muslims states should have concerted together and taken the following collective measures:

1) Cut all diplomatic links with Denmark

2) Implement a full economic boycott

a) by not only a comprehensive embargo against all Danish goods and services

'b)but also refusing to sell oil or oil related products to Denmark.

That would send a more powerful message and cause more pain to Denmark. Let's face it:
Road demonstrations are mere gimmicks.
Using violence is counter productive as well as haram (prohibited in Islam !)

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 06:40 AM

both shias and sunnis ahve being at a bad end ever since the assasination of the former sunni pm rafik hariri.most sunnis hold syria ,an ally of lebanese shia political parties.responsible.but when it came to defend the image of our beloved prophet (pbuh) ,the political barrier was smashed.they joined hands today to protest.the protest went out of hands and emotions went5 high.the danish embassy in an area of beirut known as ashrafiyye was allegedly attacked.and allegedly a church was also assaulted.this gave way to christian lebanese hijacking the situation and describning it as a show of shame and the muslims would have porved the danish newspaper wrong had they being more peaceful.further on,an upstart lebanese politician called for a mass in the church.

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 06:45 AM

(salam)

I wonder what would happen if the Danes returned the favor and torched the Syrian embassy?

:huh:

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you dont have to wonder because syria already withdrew its ambassador.

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Posted 05 February 2006 - 07:22 AM

Yeah right, and here are Shi'as talking such garbage about "peace" while our Prophet is insulted left and right! What happened to Shi'a Ali? What happened to Shi'a Hussein? Would you not defend Imam Hussein from insults, and attacks? And then these Shi'as talk such [Edited Out] about "peace?"


Imam Hussain was not an aggressor. He did not advocate violence, till the last moment even after all his companions, brothers, sons, kith and kin had been killed, he still appealed to the evil forces of Yazid to realize the wrong they were committing by fighting him. He addressed his enemies by the words "If you do not have religion at least be free men in your life of this world.", by which he tried to arouse their human conscience against submitting to tyranny and oppression. But alas the heart of the Muslims at that time was of stone.

Like wise it is narrated in history books such as Tabari and Rozat ulSafa, in details the orders issued by Imam Ali to his soldiers before his battle. The orders give a clear indication of the principles and methods laid down by Imam Ali (as) as to how Jihad (holy war) should be carried on:

1. Never begin a war yourself, God does not like blood-shed, fight only in defence.
2. Never be first to attack your enemy, repulse his attacks, but do it boldly, bravely and courageously.
3. While declaring yourself and your deeds (Rajus, a custom amongst hand to hand combatants) never waste your time, and instead of speaking about yourself speak about God and the Holy prophet (A.S.)
4. Never follow and kill those who run awan from the battle or an encounter, life is dear to them, let them live as long as death permits them to live.
5. Never kill wounded persons who cannot defend themselves.
6. Never strip naked a dead man for his coat of arms or dress.
7. Never cut nose or ears of dead men to humiliate them.
8. Never take to loot and arson.
9. Never molest or outrage the modesty of a woman.
10. Never hurt a woman even if she swears at you or hurts you.
11. Never hurt a child.
12. Never hurt an old or an enfeebled person.

(source: Tabari Vol. VI p. 577, Rowzat ul-Safa Vol. II p. 524)

Unfortunately very few Muslims follow the true teachings of the Prophet (pbuh) and his pure Household. Perhaps this cartoon-crisis would give us something to ponder over. How much respect do WE show to our Prophet? Where was the Muslim outrage when the Prophet's beloved grandchild was killed in Karbala. Until this day Saudi Arabia (the first country that boycotted Dk) publishes and prints books that praise Yazid the killer of the Prophet's children. How many Muslims were outraged when pilgrims were killed In Najaf, Karbala and Kadhmiya? Or when innocent European women were held hostages in Iraq, or when that poor Korean who pleaded for mercy, was coldly beheaded with cries of ALLAHU AKBAR.

Is this not defaming Islam and the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) ???

Edited by Saberah, 05 February 2006 - 07:25 AM.


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Posted 05 February 2006 - 08:11 AM

(salam)

Abdel Hassan - You seriously need to grow up. Lighting a small fire in a foreign Embassy does not prove any courage and determination! Let me see those rioters when Imam Mahdi comes to Earth. Id bet that the majority of them would chicken away and try their best not to help the Imam fight a war.

Also, please understand that Islam is a religion of peace. It does not advocate terror towards innocent people. Since when did the Prophet (pbuh) ever told us to fight and kill innocent Africans, just because ONE African committed a horrendous crime? Since when did he ask us to kill a person just because that person used bad language, etc?

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From a person who uses an Adolph Hitler quotation in his signature, and from a person who proudly seeks to kill any person who didnt support the resistance of Iraq, it is easy to conclude that your personality has been defeated by Satan. Good luck!



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