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#626 Rawshni

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Posted 03 July 2006 - 04:04 PM

Aap nay Sub kuch likha Kay saray baray companies kay Head offices yahan hain .... Aisay hi hain kay koi waja hai un kay karachi main honay ki... Waja main batata hoon.. Karachi kay Sea port kay baghair kis ki export nahi ho sukti kisi ki Import nahi ho sukti..
Chalain aap kah sukti hain kay Gadap Blouchistan say ya kaam ho sukta hai lakin nahi ho sukta kyun kay wo seaport nahi hai us ko sea port banana paray ga...
Phir Jo Lahore main baitha kay Miya Nawaz Shrief Steel mill ka Steel steal kar rahay thay ab ya kaam kisi aur ko Sonp kay Chalai gai hon gay woh bhi hath say jai ga...
Teesray ya kay jo sara baray Bussiness kay daftar yahan Khulay hua hain us ki waja karachi ka telent bhi hai (Bhalay hi ya talent dus qomiyat say mil kay hi bana ho)...
Karachi ko koi bhi Apnay Aap say alag nahi kar sukta Chahay woh Sindh ho kay Pakistan... Karachi

Yaar Neend bhi Arahi hai aur Rawshni Aunty ki taqreer parh kay Demagh ka dahi bhi bun chuka hai.... Main Ab Sonay ja raha hoon baqi kul continue karon ga....


Loug apnay H> O. Karachi say shift karr rahay hain. Trend 90s mein khaasa mazboot thaa, abb uss qadr naheen hai, magar hai, aur yeh hotaa arhay gaa. Karachi abb industrial investment kay liye saazgaar naheen, kabhee Pakistan kaa sabb say sastaa sheher hotaa thaa, abb naheen hai.

Seaport kee baat karrtay ho tou zara zehmat karr kay trend map out karo, air cargo mein izaafay kee raftar kyaa hai aur sea cargo mein kamee kee raftar kyaa hai. Yeh jaan nay kee koshish karo keh cargo jo aa rahe hai Karachi port mein, iss transit trade kay maal kaa share kitnaa hai. Isee tarah jo yahaan say jaa rahaa hai, uss mein transit tarde ka kyaa hisseh hai?

Talent peh kisee bhee quamiyyat yaa ilaqay kee ijardaari naheen hai. Eik baat jo dunyaa jaante hai woh yeh hai keh Pakistan bann nay kay b'aad, Lalukhet aur Burns Road per fil waqaee Hindustan kee universityoun kay j'aali certificate aur degryaan chaapnay kaykaarkhaanay ugg aaye thay. Unhee j'aali certificate yafteh logoun kee aulaadein aaj barhrh charh kay baatein karrtay hain . . .



Salaam Alikum Yahan Subah Ho gai Tohra Zahan ko taro tazgi mili hai tau Baat phir agay Barhai jati hai.....

Jahan tak Rawshni Aunty Nay pathano ki Baat ki... kay 30% pathaan karachi main rahata hai tau kiya Karachi ko Peshawar Samjh liya jai?
Insaan wahin jata hai Jahan us ko rozi roti ki umeed hoti hai... Agar is tarhan say daikha jai tau Karachi Puray pakistan ka Pait paal raha hai... Jaisay ka Yahan America main Saray mexican Akay Farming kartay hain ya jharo daionay ka kaam kartay hain
Jaisay UK main Saray Punjabi jakay Labor work kartay hain.. Is ka matlab ya nahi hua kay kay UK ko bananay main Punjabion ka hath hai ya phir USA ko Chalainay main Mexicans ka hath..
Uk Walon ko labour force chiya thi unho nay Mexicans bulai. Mexicans ko apna pait palna hai woh is liya aai aur un ka mulk poh nahi provide kar pa raha tha..
Uk main Factories main kaam karnay kay liya Labour nahi thi Unho nay India say sikhron aur pakistan say Punjabio ko la kay factories main daal diya...
Tau Ab agar karachi walon ko Sarkaian Bananay kay liya Labour chiya hai aur woh Pathan Provide kar suktay hain tau kyun na Karachi main Pathaan hon gai...

Karachi ko Pakistan Apnay Aap say Is liya Kabhi Alag nahi karay ga jaisay kay main nay pahlay kahan Kay Karachi ka Sea port sub say main cheez hai....

The Port of Karachi (Urdu: ÈäÏÑ ÇÀ ßÑǍì ) is Pakistan's largest and busiest seaport, handling about 60% of the nation's cargo (25 million tons per annum). The port is located at 24°50′00″N, 66°58′30″E (24.840000, 66.980000) between the Karachi towns of Kiamari and Saddar, close to the heart of old Karachi. The port is located close to the main business district of Karachi and several industrial areas. The geographic position of Karachi places the port in close proximity to major shipping routes such as the Straits of Hormuz. The administration of the port is carried out by the Karachi Port Trust which was established in the nineteenth century.

Karachi was again a military base and port for supplies to the Russian front during the Second World War (1939-1945). In 1947, Karachi became the capital of the new nation of Pakistan, resulting in a growth in population as it absorbed hundreds of thousands of refugees. Although the capital moved to Islamabad in 1959, Karachi remains the economic centre of Pakistan, accounting for the largest proportion of national GDP based in part on the commerce conducted through the Port of Karachi and Port Qasim.

For more info what was Kolachi-goth and what is Karachi
please read the history
http://en.wikipedia....Port_of_Karachi


Wikipedia kee awqaat kuchch naheen hai, isay tumm bhee edit karr kay apnay matlab ke baat bharr sakktay ho mein bhee . . . sou koee m'aaquool hawaaleh laao

Mayn nay 30 per cent Pathaan naheen kahaa thaa . . . ghaur say daikho kyaa likhaa hai . . .

Tumm nay sawaal kiyaa thaa Karachi kou Pakistan say alag karr liya jaaye tou . . . mayn nay eitraaz uthaaya thaa keh Karachi Sindh kaa hai, aur Sindh isay apany aap say alag naheen honay day gaa

Iss baat kaa jawaab tumm nay abhee naheen diya . . .

Edited by Rawshni, 03 July 2006 - 04:11 PM.


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Posted 03 July 2006 - 05:39 PM

Tau Aap ya Baat manti hain kay Karachi Puray Mulk kakhoon nahi Choos raha hai Bulkay Pakistan Karachi ka Khoon Choos raha hai...

In hi Burns Road aur Lalo khait ki Jali Degriyan lainay walon nay Karachi ko Lighton ka Shehar Banaya tha...
Jub kay Punjaab say Punjabi.. Aur ho Sukta hai kay aap Iran Say lahore move hoin ho lakin Aap kay Walid sahab bhi karachi ki tarqi say mutasir ho kay Karchi move ho gai....
Jubhi karachi main ya bohat Bari Punjabion kay liya kahawat thi kay
"Dhotiyan Chud diyan Painta Piyan Lightan Waikhnay Aya"
Jub Quid-e-Azam nay Logon kay hath main Baag Dor di thi woh Saray Shia thay Aur un main ba mushkil hi koi punjabi ho ga... Lakin Humray dheelay pun ki waja say Sari ki Sari hukoomat Punjabion kay hath main muntaqil ho gai aur us Pay Ayub Khan Sahab nay Aur Karachi pay akay zulm-o-sitam dahaya aur Pathano ko karachi main la kay bhar diya...

Lakin Karachi ka Dil Itna Bara hai kay Sub ko Sumo liya...

Mujhay nahi maloom kay aaj ka sindhi karachi ko apna hisa kah bhi sukta hai kay nahi....

Haan Aap ki Laokhait aur burns rd main Bunay wali degrees ko Sindhion aur punjabion kay kaam atay main nay zaroor daikha hai Lakin Kisi Karachi kay larkay kay kaam atay jub tak main karachi main tha kabhi nahi daikha.. Ab ka mujhay nahi maloom....

Sindh Karachi ko apnay say Alag honay dai ga kay nahi.... Waisay Ab Sindhi wadairon ki Ijaradari tau nahi hai Karachi pay... Jub karachi Fishery ya Kolachi hua karta tha tub hi

http://www.kmc.com.pk/hist.htm

Ya lijiya wiki pedia say hut kay tau ya 75% kah raha hai

Karachi Port

Karachi Port is the premier port of Pakistan and is being managed through Karachi Port Trust (KPT). Karachi port handles about 75% of the entire national cargo. It is a deep natural port with 11 km long approach channel to provide safe navigation up to 75,000 DWT tankers, modern container vessels, bulk carriers and general cargo ships. The Port has 30 dry cargo berths including two Container Terminals and 3 liquid cargo-handling berths. KPT intends to cater for 12-meter draught ships, which are the most widely used container vessels.
The geographic position of Karachi Port places it in proximity to the main shipping routes. KPT has already introduced a trans-shipment package with one-way wharfage, 20-day free dwelling time and 24 hours customs facilities.

http://www.pakboi.go...acts/ports.html

You can also see future projects at this site....

Karachi Ko Sindh tau Abhi chor day Jub kay Bhutto Nay Jam Sadiq say kaha tha kay karachi pura baichdena lakin Quid kay Mazar ko bakhsh daina... Tau aisi zahniyat wala Sindhi jis ko ya Aqal nahi kay Sonay ka anda dainay wali murghi us hi waqt sona ka anda daigi jub us us ka waqt ho ga... who shaqs aisi Murgi ko cheer phar kar anda nikalnay ki koshish karay ga...
In sindhi Wadairon ko Karachi say koi lagao nahi...

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Posted 03 July 2006 - 08:48 PM

Rawshni:

mayn nay eitraaz uthaaya thaa keh Karachi Sindh kaa hai, aur Sindh isay apany aap say alag naheen honay day gaa

Baqaul tumhare, Pakistan bhi to Bharatiyon ka tha. Unhon ne bhi to Pakistan ko alag karna manzoor kar liya tha. To ab kyoon bura lag raha he tumhein?

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 07:02 AM

Tau Aap ya Baat manti hain kay Karachi Puray Mulk kakhoon nahi Choos raha hai Bulkay Pakistan Karachi ka Khoon Choos raha hai...

In hi Burns Road aur Lalo khait ki Jali Degriyan lainay walon nay Karachi ko Lighton ka Shehar Banaya tha...
Jub kay Punjaab say Punjabi.. Aur ho Sukta hai kay aap Iran Say lahore move hoin ho lakin Aap kay Walid sahab bhi karachi ki tarqi say mutasir ho kay Karchi move ho gai....
Jubhi karachi main ya bohat Bari Punjabion kay liya kahawat thi kay
"Dhotiyan Chud diyan Painta Piyan Lightan Waikhnay Aya"
Jub Quid-e-Azam nay Logon kay hath main Baag Dor di thi woh Saray Shia thay Aur un main ba mushkil hi koi punjabi ho ga... Lakin Humray dheelay pun ki waja say Sari ki Sari hukoomat Punjabion kay hath main muntaqil ho gai aur us Pay Ayub Khan Sahab nay Aur Karachi pay akay zulm-o-sitam dahaya aur Pathano ko karachi main la kay bhar diya...

Lakin Karachi ka Dil Itna Bara hai kay Sub ko Sumo liya...

Mujhay nahi maloom kay aaj ka sindhi karachi ko apna hisa kah bhi sukta hai kay nahi....

Haan Aap ki Laokhait aur burns rd main Bunay wali degrees ko Sindhion aur punjabion kay kaam atay main nay zaroor daikha hai Lakin Kisi Karachi kay larkay kay kaam atay jub tak main karachi main tha kabhi nahi daikha.. Ab ka mujhay nahi maloom....

Sindh Karachi ko apnay say Alag honay dai ga kay nahi.... Waisay Ab Sindhi wadairon ki Ijaradari tau nahi hai Karachi pay... Jub karachi Fishery ya Kolachi hua karta tha tub hi

http://www.kmc.com.pk/hist.htm

Ya lijiya wiki pedia say hut kay tau ya 75% kah raha hai

Karachi Port

Karachi Port is the premier port of Pakistan and is being managed through Karachi Port Trust (KPT). Karachi port handles about 75% of the entire national cargo. It is a deep natural port with 11 km long approach channel to provide safe navigation up to 75,000 DWT tankers, modern container vessels, bulk carriers and general cargo ships. The Port has 30 dry cargo berths including two Container Terminals and 3 liquid cargo-handling berths. KPT intends to cater for 12-meter draught ships, which are the most widely used container vessels.
The geographic position of Karachi Port places it in proximity to the main shipping routes. KPT has already introduced a trans-shipment package with one-way wharfage, 20-day free dwelling time and 24 hours customs facilities.

http://www.pakboi.go...acts/ports.html

You can also see future projects at this site....

Karachi Ko Sindh tau Abhi chor day Jub kay Bhutto Nay Jam Sadiq say kaha tha kay karachi pura baichdena lakin Quid kay Mazar ko bakhsh daina... Tau aisi zahniyat wala Sindhi jis ko ya Aqal nahi kay Sonay ka anda dainay wali murghi us hi waqt sona ka anda daigi jub us us ka waqt ho ga... who shaqs aisi Murgi ko cheer phar kar anda nikalnay ki koshish karay ga...
In sindhi Wadairon ko Karachi say koi lagao nahi...


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Tumm mayree zaat peh, mayray mian peh, mayray khaandaan peh kuchch bhee kehtay raho, mayn abb zaatee hammloun kaa jawaab naheen daitee . . . mujhsay behter jaan nay waaloun aur ziyadeh tajrubehkaar members nay mujhay yeh mashwareh diya hai, aur yeh baat mayary dil kou lagee hai . . .

Sachchee baat poocho naa, tou tumhaara sawaal nihayat ambigous thaa, aur hamm sabb [y'aani jis jis nay bhee jawaab diya] tumhaaray tumhaaray haathoun baywaqoof bann gaye.

Yeh baat keh 1947 mein Karachi kou Pakistan kaa capital kyoun banaya gyaa, mujh peh waazeh naheen hai . . .

Ghalibann, AIML kay bohat saaray aur faisloun kee tareh yeh bhee Jinnah kaa arbitrary faisleh thaa . . . aur uss kay bohat saaray faisloun kee tareh yeh bhee ultaa parra

Karachi kee aabadi batwaaray kay waqt kitnee thee? Uss waqt yahaan kitni barree san'atein kaam karr rahee theen? Yeh tumm naheen bataa sako gay . . . laikin agar jaan naa chaho tou yeh sabb kuchch net peh maujood hai, aur Google hai naa . . .

Siwai bandergah honay kay, aur kyaa khususiyat thee Karachi kou, yah yeh keh Jinnah kee janam bhoomi bhee thee . . .

Agar Karachi kou darulhukumet naa banaya jaata, tou naa tou yahaan uss waqt kay Pakistan kay doosray hissoun say loug sarkaari naukaryoun kee talaash mein aatay, naa hee Karachi mein industry kee ghair zururee concentration banntee

Kisee mulk kay darulhukumet kay liye bandergah honaa zururee naheen hotaa . . . Tehran Bandergah naheen, Berlin bandergah naheen, Washington DC bandergah, Delhi bandergah naheen, Dhaka Bandergah naheen

Mein pehlay bhee mukhtalif unwaanaat kay tehat inhee boards peh kayee baar keh chukee hoon, maujoodeh Pakistan kay masa'el kaa hall iss kee taareekh mein say hee nikal sakktaa hai, guzeshteh kee gayee ghalateeyoun kou pehchaan naa ho gaa, sarr jorre kay baithnaa ho gaa [eik doosray kay sarr torrenay say nuqsaan hee ho gaa] aur daikhnaa ho gaa keh eik kharaab soorat-e-haal mein say khoobee kaisey paida kee jaa sakktee hai . . .

Mayn bohat wazahat say eik baat jaantee hoon.

Batwaaray kay nateejay mein, jo jughrafiyaaee khittay abb Pakistan hain, inhoun nay insaani asaassoun [human resource] kee soorat mein double nuqsaan uthaaya hai . . .baqaul eik sha'eyr shahbaaz day kay gidh liye hain . . .

Woh khoon choosnay waali baat saheeh hai.

Pathanoun, Punjabiyoun, Seraikyoun, Balochoun, Brahvyoun, Sindhyoun, bohat saaray Urdu bolenay waaloun kee mehnat peh, Pakistan kee aabaadi kaa eik hissah freeloading karr rahhaa hai . . . iss kee akthariyyat Karachi hee mein aabaad hai . . .

Jabb bhee Karachi kou 'aladah karrnay kee baat ho gee, to yeh eik siyasi baat ho gee . . . iss kay 'alawa aur kuchch ho naheen sakktee . . . jaisey main nay point out karaya thaa, naa Pakistan kee "federation" kou Karachi kay alag karrnay mein koyee dilchaspee ho gee, naa Sindh kou, jis kaa ilaqaaee hissah hai Karachi . . . rahay Balochistan, Punjab; inn kee r'aaye is muamlay mein mehez haashya hogee

Sou Karach kou alag karrnay kee aawaaz agar uththee hai tou yeh Karachi hee say uthay gee . . .

Abb ghaur karo keh yeh aawaaz kaun uthaaey gaa . . .

Edited by Rawshni, 04 July 2006 - 07:13 AM.


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Posted 04 July 2006 - 07:07 AM

waisay khala main aap ko aik mashwara doon aap pakistan k batray main coomments na hee diya karain plz

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 07:15 AM

Kyoun baita? agar koyee naasoor hai tou surgery tou karnee hee hogee naa?

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 10:21 AM

nasooor kee baat nh hai
aap kafi anti pakistan comments deti hain
aur yeh bhol hjait hain k aap pakistan main hain aur jo kuch hain pakistan kee wajah sey hain

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 10:33 AM

^

Anti Pakistan naheen . . . anti system

Pakistan mein jo nizaam raej hai . . . jabb takk woh badla naheen jaata, kuchch kaam naheen ho gaa

Mayn nay aaj takk yeh kaheen naheen kahaa keh Pakistan torro . . . banee huee cheezoun kou torrnaa apnaa shewaa naheen, unn kay naqaes door karrnaa, unhein sanwaarnaa nikhaarnaa apnaa tareequa hai

Abb reh gyaa mas'ala kuchch logoun baaray mayree r'aaye kaa . . .

Woh mayree zaatee hai, mayn yeh tou naheen kehtee keh usay apnaa lo

Mujhay logoun baaray r'aaye rakhnay, aur usay bayaan karrnay kaa haqq hai naheen??

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 01:46 PM

nasooor kee baat nh hai
aap kafi anti pakistan comments deti hain
aur yeh bhol hjait hain k aap pakistan main hain aur jo kuch hain pakistan kee wajah sey hain


Its a saying in English language that 'Cherity begins at home'.
So agar pakistan kay halaat ko behtar banana hai tou sab say pehlay ghalatiyo`n ki nishaan-dayhi karna ho gi.that will actually be a step in the right direction to put her back on track of prosperity.Discussing pakistan doest necessarily mean that its anti-pakistan.

Doosra yeh kay above pakistan are the teachings of religion n shariah,ie
Amr bil maroof n nahi anal munkar we follow.so if something is going on wrong in pakistan,then it Must be pointed out as per religious orders also.Pakistan is not the sacred cow of hindu that cant be touched....

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 02:10 PM

Tau Aap ya Baat manti hain kay Karachi Puray Mulk kakhoon nahi Choos raha hai Bulkay Pakistan Karachi ka Khoon Choos raha hai...

In hi Burns Road aur Lalo khait ki Jali Degriyan lainay walon nay Karachi ko Lighton ka Shehar Banaya tha...
Jub kay Punjaab say Punjabi.. Aur ho Sukta hai kay aap Iran Say lahore move hoin ho lakin Aap kay Walid sahab bhi karachi ki tarqi say mutasir ho kay Karchi move ho gai....
Jubhi karachi main ya bohat Bari Punjabion kay liya kahawat thi kay
"Dhotiyan Chud diyan Painta Piyan Lightan Waikhnay Aya"
Jub Quid-e-Azam nay Logon kay hath main Baag Dor di thi woh Saray Shia thay Aur un main ba mushkil hi koi punjabi ho ga... Lakin Humray dheelay pun ki waja say Sari ki Sari hukoomat Punjabion kay hath main muntaqil ho gai aur us Pay Ayub Khan Sahab nay Aur Karachi pay akay zulm-o-sitam dahaya aur Pathano ko karachi main la kay bhar diya...

Lakin Karachi ka Dil Itna Bara hai kay Sub ko Sumo liya...

Mujhay nahi maloom kay aaj ka sindhi karachi ko apna hisa kah bhi sukta hai kay nahi....

Haan Aap ki Laokhait aur burns rd main Bunay wali degrees ko Sindhion aur punjabion kay kaam atay main nay zaroor daikha hai Lakin Kisi Karachi kay larkay kay kaam atay jub tak main karachi main tha kabhi nahi daikha.. Ab ka mujhay nahi maloom....

Sindh Karachi ko apnay say Alag honay dai ga kay nahi.... Waisay Ab Sindhi wadairon ki Ijaradari tau nahi hai Karachi pay... Jub karachi Fishery ya Kolachi hua karta tha tub hi


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Potentially racist comments towards Punjabis and others. . .

and important points that were raised before have not been asnwered. . .

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 02:31 PM

Batwaaray kay nateejay mein, jo jughrafiyaaee khittay abb Pakistan hain, inhoun nay insaani asaassoun [human resource] kee soorat mein double nuqsaan uthaaya hai . . .baqaul eik sha'eyr shahbaaz day kay gidh liye hain . .



Mujhe ye baat samajh nahiN aatee ke itnay baRay aur qudarti zakhair rakhnay walay mulk kee hur cheez faqat do teen shehroN maiN kyuN qaid kar dee gayee hai?

Ta'aleem hasil karni hai, acche doctor ko dikhaana hai, Karobaar karna hai, Naukaree karnee hai, Acchee sahooliyat-e-zindagee ka husool chahtay ho. . .itnay baRay raqbay ke mulk ke tamam jagheN, ilaaqay choR kar dhotiyaaN sambhalay bagher, log in 2 teen baRay sheheroN kee janib jaanay per majboor haiN. . .

in do teen sheheroN maiN jiss raftaar se pagloN kee tarah migration jari hai. . .aur phir bagher kisi plan ke, bagher kisi system ke. . .wo buhat bhayanak nataaij kee hamil ho sakti hai. . .

ye system jo pichlay 60 saal se chall raha hai, uss nee iss mulk ko kisi kaam ka nahiN choRa. . , aur iss baat per ghour kareN ke jaisay jaisay waqt guzar raha hai, halaat, hur soorat, hur zaaviye se, ab-tar hotay ja rahe haiN. . .jo sukoon aur asoodgee aaj se 20 saal pehlay thee ab nahiN hai , jo uss se 20 saal pehlay thee tab nahiN thee. .aur jo uss se 20 saal. . .and on and on. . .

baharhaal baat Karachi maiN hur ilaaqay ke logoN ka mooN utha utha kar aana, jiss per log fakhar kee havaa se seena phula letay haiN jab k sochtay nahiN ke ye jaaye sharam hai. . .

Allah hee behtar kare. baqee insanoN ne kuch nahiN choRaa iss zameen per. . .

Rawshni:

Baqaul tumhare, Pakistan bhi to Bharatiyon ka tha. Unhon ne bhi to Pakistan ko alag karna manzoor kar liya tha. To ab kyoon bura lag raha he tumhein?

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Sahib. . .

Premise ko theek kareN. . .

Kiss hindustaan aur kis Pakistan ke Hindustan ka hissa' honay kee baat kar rahe haiN. . .

Aaj ke Pakistan ka eik hissa' yaani Sooba-e-Sarhad Peshawar samet Afghanistan ka hissa' hua karta tha. . .baad maiN hukoomat-e-Hind maiN shamil hua. . .Balochistan ke kayee hissay issee qabeel ke haiN. . ghasb kiye huye. . .aur isee liye aap Peshawar aur Sarhad maiN kuch "Hindi" type cheez nahiN dekhtay. . balke agar wo kisi quam aur ilaaqay se mamaaslat rakhtay haiN to wo Afghanistan hai. . .

Zara tareekh maiN peechay jaaiye. . .

Hind ya Hindustan kabhi wo nahiN tha jo taqseem ke waqt nazar aata tha. . .Ye sara khitta teen hissoN per mushtamil tha. . .

Hind, Sindh aur Deccan. . .

Hind (zyada tar) wo hissa jiss per Mughal chaR bethay. . .Deccan maujooda ilaqay se kaheeN baRaa tha. . .aur Sindh wo ilaaqa tha jiss ke saarhadeN eik taraf Debal ke qasbay se sultanate ke daar-ul-hukoomat "ArouR" se hotee sooba Mooltan jama' Lahore aur Kashmir tak, aur doosree taraf sara maujooda balouchistan aur purani riyasat rajpoota zilah Jaisalmeer theeN. . . Yaani maujooda Pakistan, purana aur mukammal Sindh hua karta tha. . .

Aap kiss Hind ya Hindustan kee baat kar rahe haiN?

JahaaN tak ta'aluq hai Karachi ka. wo Sindh ka hissa tha, hai aur rahega. . .chaahay wahaaN kee deevaroN per kitnay hee paan kee peek phenknay walay jama' kyuN na ho jaiyeN. . .

Wasslam

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 03:59 PM

^

Potentially racist comments towards Punjabis and others. . .

and important points that were raised before have not been asnwered. . .

:wacko:


Kaun sa Comment racist laga ga miyan?

Ya tau Jawab-e-Shikwa hai....
Phalay Comment pass hua kay Lalokhait aur Burns Rd ki Jali Degriyan Lay kay log Karachi main Uper baithai hain.. Ya Itna Bara Ilzaam hai kay is ki koi Had nahi Lakin main pi gaya.. Warna Karachi main karchi walon ko High level jobs lainay kay liya Merit pay ana parta tha... Warna Jis ka Domicile Interior sindh ya Punjab ka bana hota tha us ki koi Qualification nahi poochi jati thi....

Miyan History kay Panay Kholnay pay Agay tau Phir woh Zulam Punjabion kay daikho gai Karachi walon pay jo Bangalion tak pay nahi hua hon gai....

Punjabion ko Baithay bithai ya Mulk mil Gaya.. Punjabion ko kiya Multanio ko Peshawrion ko. Queta walon ko... Maray Kaun wohi jinho nay koshish ki Angrezon aur Hinduon say Chutkara Hasil karnay ki....

Yahan Pay baith kay Batain banana bohat Asan kaam hai....

Lakin mainay ya Sawal Qomiyat ki base pay nahi kiya tha.. Lakin mujhay Ghaseeta gaya ha Qomiyat pay baat karnay kay liya....

Kaun sa sawal un answered gaya?

Ya kay Pakistan main Gawadar ko sea port bana diya jai? It will take years and money woh revenue bhi kahan say jama ho ga? Karachi say..

Tesra Sawal Aap nay poocha tha Kay kiya main sindhi hoon?
Main karachi main paida hua hoon... Meray Parents India main... Baat Jai gi Arab Tak... Meri Waldah Hazrat Abbas ki Aulad main hain aur Meray Walid Hazrat Zain-ul-Abidden kay baitay Hazrat Zaid ki Aulad say. Hazrat Zaid ki Walidah Sindh ki thin tau is lihaz say Aap mujhay American System kay Mutabiq kuch % Sindhi samjh suktay ho....

Aur Aina Lay kay mat baitha karo... waisay hi tumharay husan ki taab na lakay Aina toot jata hai.... :!!!:

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 04:29 PM

Bhaee

Tumm mayree zaat peh, mayray mian peh, mayray khaandaan peh kuchch bhee kehtay raho, mayn abb zaatee hammloun kaa jawaab naheen daitee . . . mujhsay behter jaan nay waaloun aur ziyadeh tajrubehkaar members nay mujhay yeh mashwareh diya hai, aur yeh baat mayary dil kou lagee hai . . .


Mazrat Chahta hoon agar aap ko mera aap ki zaat pay baat karna bura laga.. warna main nay koi aisi Baat nahi ki... Aap karachi main rahti hain Aap ki Job mashaAllah Say karchi main Set hai.. Aap kay Miyan ka Business MashaAllah say karachi main set hai... tau achi baat hai.. Is baat ka batanay ka maqsad ya tha kay karachi even anti-karachi walon kay liya bhi Janat hai...
App ko Anti-Karachi is liya kah raha hoon kay aap kay pahlay attack main jo batain aap nay likhi hain us say Anti- karachi honay ki mehak arahi hai...

Ab Aap nay kaha kay pakistan ka system sahi nahi hai...

Qaud-e-Azam nay Pakistan Banaya 14 August 1947 ko Mulk mila.... Wahabi Mulon nay kahna Shuru kar diya kay ya tau Shiastan banaya hai....Quid-e-Azam nay waisay jo Baag Dor ka System rakha bhi tha Woh bhi Shion kay hath main hi tha... 11 September 1948 ko Qaid-e-Azam Duniya say Chalay gai... Aik saal kay Arsay main kiya system banatay? Us kay Baad Qaid-e-Milat Liaqat ali khan ko Goli maar kay Ura diya Gaya kyun kay woh America main Muka Dikha kay agai thay... Us kay baad Muhtarma Fatima Jinah tak ko tau Kursi pay nahi Baithnay diya gaya... Kiya khaak System banta... us kay baad jitnay bhi aai sub America kay Pitho aai... Sub Say Ziadah pakistan ki Rairh Ayub Khan Malaoon nay mari...
Us ko Karachi ki lights Khatkti thin ankhon main... Agar Aqalmand admi hota tau Karachi ko Tahas nahas karnay kay bajai Peeshawar ko waisa bananay ki koshish karta. Aur Sarhad main Electicity ziada farawani say Genrate ho sukti hai... Peshawar ko Tourist Attraction banaya ja sukta hai... Naran Kaghan Kalam Jheel Saif ul malook Ya sub best Revenue Generate kar suktay hain. lakin un pay koi Paisa kharach nahi ho raha hai...

Khair Hazaron batain system ko sahi karnay ki laikin us pay amal daramad kaun karaiga.. Pahlay Firqa warana Jhagray tau khatam hon, America kay pitho kay bajai hum aik dosray kay muqlis banai tab ya saray kaam hotay hain... Aur ya kaam ho bhi suktay thay Agar Ayub Khan jaisa Maloon nahi ata late 60s main

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 05:13 PM

Mazrat Chahta hoon agar aap ko mera aap ki zaat pay baat karna bura laga.. warna main nay koi aisi Baat nahi ki... Aap karachi main rahti hain Aap ki Job mashaAllah Say karchi main Set hai.. Aap kay Miyan ka Business MashaAllah say karachi main set hai... tau achi baat hai.. Is baat ka batanay ka maqsad ya tha kay karachi even anti-karachi walon kay liya bhi Janat hai...
App ko Anti-Karachi is liya kah raha hoon kay aap kay pahlay attack main jo batain aap nay likhi hain us say Anti- karachi honay ki mehak arahi hai...



Mayn naa kahaan naa, mayn zaati baatoun kaa abb jawaab naheen daitee.

Mayn anti Karachi hoon, agar yeh t'aathur mila hai tou ghalat mila hai . . .mayn iss silsilay mein apnay pehlay posts say hee, Karachi mein basnay waalay bohat say logoun kee hiamayat karr rahee hoon . . .

Haan, mayn Karachi [aur baqee mandeh tamaam Pakistan mein bhee] mein rehnay bassnay waalay aisey tamaam lougoun kee mukhaalif zuroor hoon, jo baghayr mehnat kiye aish o aaraam kee zindagee guzaarnaa chaahtey hain . . . koee bhee haqq halaal kee khaanay waala, aisey haraam khoroun kaa mukhalif he hogaa

Mayn aur mayraa mian, donoun, hamm dunyaa kay kisee bhee mulk mein apnaa apnaa kaarobaar niyhayat aaraam say chalaa sakktay hain; balkeh shayad ziyadeh sahulat say, kyounkeh bohat saaray mumaalik mein rishwat-khoree itnee 'aam naheem, over aur under-invoicing itnee 'aam naheen jitnee yahaan Pakistan mein hai

Hamm harr saal laakoun tax mein bharrtay hain; hammein miltaa kyaa hai; gharoun peh daakay, raah challtay mailee nazrein, imaam baargaahoun, qabristaanoun aur masaajid peh hammlay, schooloun, collegeoun kay nisaab mein khurafaat, maskh shuda taareekh, tootee huee sarrkein, t'aaffun zadeh gallyaan mohalley, ubaltay huay gutter, bad tameez aur naa ahl sarkaari naukar, jhootee khabrain . . .

Bass rehnay dou . . .

Ab Aap nay kaha kay pakistan ka system sahi nahi hai...

Qaud-e-Azam nay Pakistan Banaya 14 August 1947 ko Mulk mila.... Wahabi Mulon nay kahna Shuru kar diya kay ya tau Shiastan banaya hai....Quid-e-Azam nay waisay jo Baag Dor ka System rakha bhi tha Woh bhi Shion kay hath main hi tha... 11 September 1948 ko Qaid-e-Azam Duniya say Chalay gai... Aik saal kay Arsay main kiya system banatay? Us kay Baad Qaid-e-Milat Liaqat ali khan ko Goli maar kay Ura diya Gaya kyun kay woh America main Muka Dikha kay agai thay... Us kay baad Muhtarma Fatima Jinah tak ko tau Kursi pay nahi Baithnay diya gaya... Kiya khaak System banta... us kay baad jitnay bhi aai sub America kay Pitho aai... Sub Say Ziadah pakistan ki Rairh Ayub Khan Malaoon nay mari...
Us ko Karachi ki lights Khatkti thin ankhon main... Agar Aqalmand admi hota tau Karachi ko Tahas nahas karnay kay bajai Peeshawar ko waisa bananay ki koshish karta. Aur Sarhad main Electicity ziada farawani say Genrate ho sukti hai... Peshawar ko Tourist Attraction banaya ja sukta hai... Naran Kaghan Kalam Jheel Saif ul malook Ya sub best Revenue Generate kar suktay hain. lakin un pay koi Paisa kharach nahi ho raha hai...

Khair Hazaron batain system ko sahi karnay ki laikin us pay amal daramad kaun karaiga.. Pahlay Firqa warana Jhagray tau khatam hon, America kay pitho kay bajai hum aik dosray kay muqlis banai tab ya saray kaam hotay hain... Aur ya kaam ho bhi suktay thay Agar Ayub Khan jaisa Maloon nahi ata late 60s main



Pehlay tou taareekh peh zara nazar daal lo

Pakistan GOvernment of India ACT kay tehat wujood mein aaya . . . kisee eik shakhs kaa kaarnameh naheen hai

1940 say 1947 takk bohat time thaa sytem banaanay kaa . . . waisey tou jabb say yeh mutalbeh pehli baar saamnay rakhkhaa gyaa thaa, 1930 mein, Allahaabaad mein, tabb hee say mansoobehbandee shuru kee jaa sakktee thee

Chorro isay bhee

Mayn afraad kou sirf uss surat mein hadf banaatee hoon tanqeed kaa, jabb koyee nihayat ahm baat sirf uss individual say mansoob kee jaa sakkte ho

Yeh b'zaat-e-khud kisi idaaray [organization, political party] kay parlay darjay kay naa ahl honay kee daleel hai keh rahnuma marr jaaye to idaaray kay aaway kaa aawa hee oot jaaey . . . agar Jinnah kay marrnay kay b'aad MUslim League kuchch karr naa sakee tou aise jam'aat peh l'aanat hai

Yeh Muslim League tou woh nahanjaar jam'aat hai khudaeekhwaar, jis nay, apna 1946 kaa punjab mein intekhabi manshoor, Punjab mein khud apni hukumat mein ban kiya . . . partition kay b'aad

Pakistan kisi kay baap kee jageer naheen thaa keh Fatimeh Jinnah kee jholee mayn daal diya jaata

US kaa pehla pithoo Liaquat Ali Khan thaa, isee nay PL 480 kay tehat US say muahideh kiya jis nay Pakistan mein Amrika kay liye dar pardeh madaakhlat kay darwaazay khol diye . . .

Tumhaari 'etel'aa kay liye, Ayub Khan kaa Peshawar say koee rishteh naata naheen thaa, woh Hazara kay tareenoun mein say thaa, aur British Indian Army mein muslamaan officers kay uss tolay kaa ahm rukn thaa, jis nay 1947 say kaheen pehlay mansoobeh banaanay shuru karr diye thay keh agar Pakistan bann gyaa tou iss mein civil hukumatt naheen challnay daynee

Ayub Khan nay coup 1958 mein kiya thaa . . .

Mayn tumhaaray aakhree paragraph say bilkul muttafiq hoon . . .

Edited by Rawshni, 04 July 2006 - 05:25 PM.


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Posted 04 July 2006 - 05:29 PM

Its a saying in English language that 'Cherity begins at home'.
So agar pakistan kay halaat ko behtar banana hai tou sab say pehlay ghalatiyo`n ki nishaan-dayhi karna ho gi.that will actually be a step in the right direction to put her back on track of prosperity.Discussing pakistan doest necessarily mean that its anti-pakistan.

Doosra yeh kay above pakistan are the teachings of religion n shariah,ie
Amr bil maroof n nahi anal munkar we follow.so if something is going on wrong in pakistan,then it Must be pointed out as per religious orders also.Pakistan is not the sacred cow of hindu that cant be touched....



Thank you Asif . . . you've approached the issue from a very different angle, and I love that

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 06:39 PM

Mayn naa kahaan naa, mayn zaati baatoun kaa abb jawaab naheen daitee.

Mayn anti Karachi hoon, agar yeh t'aathur mila hai tou ghalat mila hai . . .mayn iss silsilay mein apnay pehlay posts say hee, Karachi mein basnay waalay bohat say logoun kee hiamayat karr rahee hoon . . .

Haan, mayn Karachi [aur baqee mandeh tamaam Pakistan mein bhee] mein rehnay bassnay waalay aisey tamaam lougoun kee mukhaalif zuroor hoon, jo baghayr mehnat kiye aish o aaraam kee zindagee guzaarnaa chaahtey hain . . . koee bhee haqq halaal kee khaanay waala, aisey haraam khoroun kaa mukhalif he hogaa

Mayn aur mayraa mian, donoun, hamm dunyaa kay kisee bhee mulk mein apnaa apnaa kaarobaar niyhayat aaraam say chalaa sakktay hain; balkeh shayad ziyadeh sahulat say, kyounkeh bohat saaray mumaalik mein rishwat-khoree itnee 'aam naheem, over aur under-invoicing itnee 'aam naheen jitnee yahaan Pakistan mein hai

Hamm harr saal laakoun tax mein bharrtay hain; hammein miltaa kyaa hai; gharoun peh daakay, raah challtay mailee nazrein, imaam baargaahoun, qabristaanoun aur masaajid peh hammlay, schooloun, collegeoun kay nisaab mein khurafaat, maskh shuda taareekh, tootee huee sarrkein, t'aaffun zadeh gallyaan mohalley, ubaltay huay gutter, bad tameez aur naa ahl sarkaari naukar, jhootee khabrain . . .

Bass rehnay dou . . .
Pehlay tou taareekh peh zara nazar daal lo

Pakistan GOvernment of India ACT kay tehat wujood mein aaya . . . kisee eik shakhs kaa kaarnameh naheen hai

1940 say 1947 takk bohat time thaa sytem banaanay kaa . . . waisey tou jabb say yeh mutalbeh pehli baar saamnay rakhkhaa gyaa thaa, 1930 mein, Allahaabaad mein, tabb hee say mansoobehbandee shuru kee jaa sakktee thee

Chorro isay bhee

Mayn afraad kou sirf uss surat mein hadf banaatee hoon tanqeed kaa, jabb koyee nihayat ahm baat sirf uss individual say mansoob kee jaa sakkte ho

Yeh b'zaat-e-khud kisi idaaray [organization, political party] kay parlay darjay kay naa ahl honay kee daleel hai keh rahnuma marr jaaye to idaaray kay aaway kaa aawa hee oot jaaey . . . agar Jinnah kay marrnay kay b'aad MUslim League kuchch karr naa sakee tou aise jam'aat peh l'aanat hai

Yeh Muslim League tou woh nahanjaar jam'aat hai khudaeekhwaar, jis nay, apna 1946 kaa punjab mein intekhabi manshoor, Punjab mein khud apni hukumat mein ban kiya . . . partition kay b'aad

Pakistan kisi kay baap kee jageer naheen thaa keh Fatimeh Jinnah kee jholee mayn daal diya jaata

US kaa pehla pithoo Liaquat Ali Khan thaa, isee nay PL 480 kay tehat US say muahideh kiya jis nay Pakistan mein Amrika kay liye dar pardeh madaakhlat kay darwaazay khol diye . . .

Tumhaari 'etel'aa kay liye, Ayub Khan kaa Peshawar say koee rishteh naata naheen thaa, woh Hazara kay tareenoun mein say thaa, aur British Indian Army mein muslamaan officers kay uss tolay kaa ahm rukn thaa, jis nay 1947 say kaheen pehlay mansoobeh banaanay shuru karr diye thay keh agar Pakistan bann gyaa tou iss mein civil hukumatt naheen challnay daynee

Ayub Khan nay coup 1958 mein kiya thaa . . .

Mayn tumhaaray aakhree paragraph say bilkul muttafiq hoon . . .


Aap ki history ki baton ko parh kay kuch kuch Pakistan ki Story aur islam ki Story Same lag rahi hai......
Rasool Allah ki Shahdat kay Baad Islaam ka System woh nahi raha jo rasool Allah bana kay gai thay... Umer nay Abubakar nay Usman Apni marzi ki kai changes kin

Qauid-e-Azam kay martay kay sath hi Pakistan ka system tahas nahas ho gaya Koi us ko us system pay chala na suka

Hazrat Ali ko Khilafat nahi mili kyun kay Islaam kisi kay baap ki jageer nahi... Jubkay Hazrat Ali kah suktay thay kay ya Humaray Khandaan ki Jagir hai

Fatima jinah ko Seat nahi mili Kyun kay Pakistan Kisi kay Baap ki Jageer nahi...

Us kay baad Abdul wahab nay Islam Ki Dhajiyan Bikhair dain

Ayub khan nay Pakistan Ki Dhajiyan Ukhair din

Bhaiyon ya sub Literally nahi laina Lakin main isi natijay pay Pohncha hoon

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 06:42 PM

no sukoon anymore plz :no:


Lo jee abb yeh bhugto, "no sukoon" kahaa thaa naa, ho gayee bay sukoonee yahaan, abb khoob tikka fazeehatee ho gee idhar, Allah mayraa chaahey tou . . .:P

Mujhe ye baat samajh nahiN aatee ke itnay baRay aur qudarti zakhair rakhnay walay mulk kee hur cheez faqat do teen shehroN maiN kyuN qaid kar dee gayee hai?


Ibtidaa say planning kaa fuqdaan, jo thorre bohat huee woh sakht naaqis aur kotaah beeni kee ghammaz, ad hocism, iqtidaar kee hawas . . .

Ta'aleem hasil karni hai, acche doctor ko dikhaana hai, Karobaar karna hai, Naukaree karnee hai, Acchee sahooliyat-e-zindagee ka husool chahtay ho. . .itnay baRay raqbay ke mulk ke tamam jagheN, ilaaqay choR kar dhotiyaaN sambhalay bagher, log in 2 teen baRay sheheroN kee janib jaanay per majboor haiN. . .


Khalq-e-khoda kee bhalaaee maqsood hotee to iss say kuchch mukhtalif hotaa naa . . . loug baag tou halwa khaanay aatay thay, jabb takk khaa sakay, khaaya, phir chaltay banay . . .

in do teen sheheroN maiN jiss raftaar se pagloN kee tarah migration jari hai. . .aur phir bagher kisi plan ke, bagher kisi system ke. . .wo buhat bhayanak nataaij kee hamil ho sakti hai. . .


Bayrouzgaar migrate karrtaa hai chaar tukkrray rotee kay liye . . . jahaan usay tawwaqua hotee hai mil jaayein gay, wahaan chala jaata hai, abb rouzgaar kay mawaquay hee inn barray sheheroun mein hein tou bayrouzgaar kyaa karein?

ye system jo pichlay 60 saal se chall raha hai, uss nee iss mulk ko kisi kaam ka nahiN choRa. . , aur iss baat per ghour kareN ke jaisay jaisay waqt guzar raha hai, halaat, hur soorat, hur zaaviye se, ab-tar hotay ja rahe haiN. . .jo sukoon aur asoodgee aaj se 20 saal pehlay thee ab nahiN hai , jo uss se 20 saal pehlay thee tab nahiN thee. .aur jo uss se 20 saal. . .and on and on. . .


Jin logoun nay partition daikhee hai, aur abhee hayat hain, bataatay hain, dhaee rupay mann aata hotaa thaa, aath aanay [aanay paisey kisee kou yaad hain?] kee pakke garrvee [dhaidh sayr] doodh, 2 rupay sayr desi ghee jo waqaee khalis hotaa thaa, 2 rupay sayr bakray kaa gosht . . .

baharhaal baat Karachi maiN hur ilaaqay ke logoN ka mooN utha utha kar aana, jiss per log fakhar kee havaa se seena phula letay haiN jab k sochtay nahiN ke ye jaaye sharam hai. . .


Zaahir hai, deevaalyaapann kee daleel hai . . .

Allah hee behtar kare. baqee insanoN ne kuch nahiN choRaa iss zameen per. . .
Sahib. . .


Jee, magar Allah hee kehtaa hai, heeleh karo, waseeleh Mayn paida karr doon gaa


Rawshni:
Baqaul tumhare, Pakistan bhi to Bharatiyon ka tha. Unhon ne bhi to Pakistan ko alag karna manzoor kar liya tha. To ab kyoon bura lag raha he tumhein?
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Premise ko theek kareN. . .

Kiss hindustaan aur kis Pakistan ke Hindustan ka hissa' honay kee baat kar rahe haiN. . .

Aaj ke Pakistan ka eik hissa' yaani Sooba-e-Sarhad Peshawar samet Afghanistan ka hissa' hua karta tha. . .baad maiN hukoomat-e-Hind maiN shamil hua. . .Balochistan ke kayee hissay issee qabeel ke haiN. . ghasb kiye huye. . .aur isee liye aap Peshawar aur Sarhad maiN kuch "Hindi" type cheez nahiN dekhtay. . balke agar wo kisi quam aur ilaaqay se mamaaslat rakhtay haiN to wo Afghanistan hai. . .

Zara tareekh maiN peechay jaaiye. . .

Hind ya Hindustan kabhi wo nahiN tha jo taqseem ke waqt nazar aata tha. . .Ye sara khitta teen hissoN per mushtamil tha. . .

Hind, Sindh aur Deccan. . .

Hind (zyada tar) wo hissa jiss per Mughal chaR bethay. . .Deccan maujooda ilaqay se kaheeN baRaa tha. . .aur Sindh wo ilaaqa tha jiss ke saarhadeN eik taraf Debal ke qasbay se sultanate ke daar-ul-hukoomat "ArouR" se hotee sooba Mooltan jama' Lahore aur Kashmir tak, aur doosree taraf sara maujooda balouchistan aur purani riyasat rajpoota zilah Jaisalmeer theeN. . . Yaani maujooda Pakistan, purana aur mukammal Sindh hua karta tha. . .

Aap kiss Hind ya Hindustan kee baat kar rahe haiN?

JahaaN tak ta'aluq hai Karachi ka. wo Sindh ka hissa tha, hai aur rahega. . .chaahay wahaaN kee deevaroN per kitnay hee paan kee peek phenknay walay jama' kyuN na ho jaiyeN. . .

Wasslam


Jaanay dayn . . . kamm umr hai, over enthusiastic hai . . .

Edited by Rawshni, 04 July 2006 - 06:56 PM.


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Posted 04 July 2006 - 06:53 PM

Aap ki history ki baton ko parh kay kuch kuch Pakistan ki Story aur islam ki Story Same lag rahi hai......
Rasool Allah ki Shahdat kay Baad Islaam ka System woh nahi raha jo rasool Allah bana kay gai thay... Umer nay Abubakar nay Usman Apni marzi ki kai changes kin

Qauid-e-Azam kay martay kay sath hi Pakistan ka system tahas nahas ho gaya Koi us ko us system pay chala na suka

Hazrat Ali ko Khilafat nahi mili kyun kay Islaam kisi kay baap ki jageer nahi... Jubkay Hazrat Ali kah suktay thay kay ya Humaray Khandaan ki Jagir hai

Fatima jinah ko Seat nahi mili Kyun kay Pakistan Kisi kay Baap ki Jageer nahi...

Us kay baad Abdul wahab nay Islam Ki Dhajiyan Bikhair dain

Ayub khan nay Pakistan Ki Dhajiyan Ukhair din

Bhaiyon ya sub Literally nahi laina Lakin main isi natijay pay Pohncha hoon


Islaam aur Pakistan kaa naa koyee rishteh t'aaluq thaa naa hai

Al India Muslim League nay mehaz Islaam kaa naam 'estemaal kiya thaa, jaisey Muaviyeh l'aeen nay Siffeen mein Quran

Muslim League kay founding documents parhrho . . . pata parr jaaey gaa woh banee kyuon thee, uss kay maqasid kyaa thay

Fatima Jinnah kaa iss mulk par hukumat karrnay kaa kisee taraf say koyee haqq saabit naheen hotaa

Tumhein agar JInnah air uss kee behen say jazbaatee lagaao hai tou jamm jamm rakhkho magar waastay Allah kay, in jaisey lougoun kou Rasool (pbuh) aur Waarisaan-e- Rasool (as) say matt milaao . . . bohat karam hogaa hamm peh . . .

Fauj nay iss mulk kee lutya daboyee, yeh kehnaa ziyadeh durust ho gaa, Ayub, Yahya, Zia aur Musharraf mehaz front-men hain, asl niqaabposh haseena GHQ hai . . .

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 06:57 PM

Islaam aur Pakistan kaa naa koyee rishteh t'aaluq thaa naa hai

Al India Muslim League nay mehaz Islaam kaa naam 'estemaal kiya thaa, jaisey Muaviyeh l'aeen nay Siffeen mein Quran

Muslim League kay founding documents parhrho . . . pata parr jaaey gaa woh banee kyuon thee, uss kay maqasid kyaa thay

Fatima Jinnah kaa iss mulk par hukumat karrnay kaa kisee taraf say koyee haqq saabit naheen hotaa

Tumhein agar JInnah air uss kee behen say jazbaatee lagaao hai tou jamm jamm rakhkho magar waastay Allah kay, in jaisey lougoun kou Rasool (pbuh) aur Waarisaan-e- Rasool (as) say matt milaao . . . bohat karam hogaa hamm peh . . .

Fauj nay iss mulk kee lutya daboyee, yeh kehnaa ziyadeh durust ho gaa, Ayub, Yahya, Zia aur Musharraf mehaz front-men hain, asl niqaabposh haseena GHQ hai . . .

All India Muslim League ko Aap Bunu Umiya Samjh Sukti hainnn....

Aur main nay apni Baat kay akhir main isi liya likha tha kay meri baat ko Literally nahi Laina.....

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 07:06 PM

All India Muslim League ko Aap Bunu Umiya Samjh Sukti hainnn....

Aur main nay apni Baat kay akhir main isi liya likha tha kay meri baat ko Literally nahi Laina...



Banu 'Ommaya Khoda Dushman thay, AIML awaam dushman thee, iss kaa mujhay yaqeen hain, Khoda kaa muamleh uss kay aur Khoda kay darmyaan hai . . . bazaahir apnay aap kou musulmaan kehtay aur kehelwwatay thay . . .

yeh koyee baat naheen keh dil aazar baat bhee kaho, aur phir yeh bhee kaho, keh ranj naa karrnaa

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 02:19 AM

hain kyun bhai
banu umayah kyun????

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 02:30 AM

^

kis say pooch rahay ho bhaee? sadqaun say say mujh say?

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 02:51 AM

koi bta dey
aap ya chacha sadqain

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 05:14 AM

koi bta dey
aap ya chacha sadqain


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Brother Sadqain ! you better register your name at some 'Old Home' now ! :P j/k :D

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 03:54 PM

Aray Miya Asif Naqvi Ab Nanhay munay bachay tau Chacha hi Khain gai... Waisay bhi may 6 bachon ka Nana Bun chuka hoon... Meri 4 Bhatijion ki Shadi ho chuki hai Aur MashaAllah say sub kay haan Auladain bhi paida ho gain hain. Tau Al syedia munay ka Chacha Kahna Mujhay Bura nahi lagta......

Al Syedia Munay Miyan All India Muslim League ko Bunu Umiya say is liya Tashbhee di.. Kay jub pakistan Bun gaya tau ya log pakistan Kay Khilaf ho gai thay aur kahtay thay kay ya tau Shiastan bana hai... Aur shion ko Utar Phainka... Shiaon say Kaun jalta hai? Maviyah aur us Baap dada aur us kay Qabeelay walay is liya un ko Bunu Umiya say tashbhee di



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