Of course, NOW the shia ulema have set out the methodologies and principles, but again it is interesting to note that they are merely ink on paper, and you will rarely, if ever, see a shia scholar actually saying 'according to the sahih hadith....'.
When things are soo well known in hadiths, for example, the importance of prayer, their is no need to comment on the authenticity of the hadith, however like in islamic government, Khomeini
does talk about the isnads of the some of the hadiths he is bringing as a daleel, when it comes to shariah, they do care about isnads more then they would of quoting things about the god-fearing for example
hadithal kisaa that he told me was fabricated (the long one) for example is mentioned to have an isnad that is Sahih and declared so in some books that i've read
here is one example of scholars mentioning when a hadith is Sahih from one book that is online:
A Noteworthy Point:
The learned Shaykh Baha'i, may Allah have mercy upon him, says, "The Chain of authorities of this hadith is sahih [authentic], and it is a tradition 'well-known (mashhur) among the Shi`is (khassah) as well as the generality Ammah, i.e. the Sunnis], who have narrated it in their sihah with a slight `variation." Thereafter, he cites the tradition with a slight difference [of Wording] from their sihah. In the gloss on the Arba'in, he remarks, "One of `the `several' mentioned in the chain of authorities of the tradition is 'Ali ibn 'Ibrahim, and for this reason, this narration is sahih. The `Ammah have also transmitted it through a sahih chain of authorities, and this is a tradition that is mashhur and considered authentic by the consensus (muttafaq `alayh) of all followers of lslam:
miraqatal uqool also discusses the isnads of Usool Al-Kafi, and rates which ones are Sahih, which are thiqah or hassan, and which are weak, and which are fabricrated
I also don't believe what he says of the sunni system of hadith being strong, there are differences of opinion on who is strong and who is weak, and from some articles i read from sunnis refuting salafis, its not what Taha is making it out to be , and I think everyone should do their own research about this and not depend on just on one person saying
inshallah i am going to study the two systems of hadith, see it from you own eyes how they both work, i think when it comes down to it, it is about studing the difference of opinion on narrators and the reasons, and making a decission, the ahlul-sunna all differ in fiqh, etc, is this all based on a pefect system of hadith developped so earyly? if you go on yanabi.com, u will see that they differ on hadiths too, and it comes down who's opinion u trust about ilmel rijaal
the sunnis always make it as if they have consensus on this and that, but they don't, when u quote a scholar saying the uluma have consensus on a hadith that supports shism, all of a sudden they show the difference of opinion, but then they quote a scholar saying the uluma have a consensus on this and we trust them, I think Taair al quds in the 12 Imams
thread showed thats not how it is, actually within ahlul-sunna their are different aqeedas and different scholars trust different people
Edited by Link, 10 December 2005 - 03:57 PM.