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Just now, Mishael said:

Facts are facts they may hurt the feelings of Muslims but I'm not going to lie just to make people feel better. I don't get angry when Muslims criticize Christianity I'm open to that type of stuff that's what freedom is.

No you just say stupid stuffs and i just hope you will soon be banned from this forum.

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1 minute ago, Mishael said:

Naked is another story thats just saying let me be disgusting in public. Not tolerance to wear what we want that's saying let me not wear cloths.

For many cultures it is normal to be naked or not wear so much clothes than in west. Why are you so "intolerant" ?

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2 minutes ago, Mishael said:

Naked is another story thats just saying let me be disgusting in public. Not tolerance to wear what we want that's saying let me not wear cloths.

I want to ask you to not talk by emotions but see the resault of your actions, for centuries you removed Hijab from Christianity and now this is the resault:

https://worldfamilymap.ifstudies.org/2017/files/WFM-2017-FullReport.pdf

on page 33 you can see the % of children born out of marriage or illegitimate children.

USA : 40% of the newborns are illegitimate 

Colombia: 84

France: 57

England: 48

and .....

in One word: the more Christian a country is the more illegitimate children are born.

Is that what you wish Muslims to become?

We say, Have fun with your methods :D we have no use for them.

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The scarf were even in the west, and the history speaks by itself, and the reason Nuns wear burka is obvious, I don't get what the problem is? It is not you who decides If you should wear it or not, you should listen to your creator! Allah knows what best for you, he knows us more than we know ourselves! 

Edited by Hamodiii

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5 minutes ago, Mishael said:

The West was better before but notice none of them wear a medieval rag that was once a sign of a sex slave. The origin of the Burka was used for high ranking concubines or women of high ranking people in Islamic empires would wear Burka after a while it became a norm. As I said if they want to wear that let them but I can force everyone in the West to dress like they did a hundred years ago either.

Everyone knows that Judaism is much older than Islam and Christianity is in nature a sect of Judaism.

Yet you claim that Burka belongs to Muslims if that's true? then why in Bible it is mentioned about Judas and his daughter in law.

If that's true then you are confessing somehow that the Bible was written after the Islam :D:D

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Just now, Mishael said:

Intolerance it forcing a women to wear the garbs of what was once the garb of a sex slave hundreds of years ago. Google origin of the Burka. Muslims wear hijab because of shame Christian wear it because they are proud to thats the difference between a nun and a Muslim. A Christian willingly covers up while a Muslim although not always but usually covers due to Sharia being forcibly implemented. Iran was once a free country mullahs took over and out Sharia by force every wear now that's intolerance being practiced.

Seriously you are a bad joke. Hijabs is maybe that for you but not at all for every muslim women. Also you try to change the topic. If you are so tolerant why do you not permit women to go naked in the streets if you are so against "intolerance". PErsonnaly i am proud to see that in most muslim countries nowadays women wear appropriate clothes while in west more and more women have pratically no modestey.

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1 minute ago, Mishael said:

Countries where the Burqa and Hijab is commonly worn also have higher rates of domestic violence. In Afghanistan 87 percent of women reported experiencing domestic violence. In Pakistan that number goes as high as 90 percent. Domestic violence is also a major problem in Saudi Arabia.

Could you stop your stupid game consisting to change subject ? We are talking about hijabs here so dont change topic ok dude ?

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Just now, Mishael said:

None of these counties are Christian countries but Athiest ones I'm not from Europe I'm middle eastern by the way. Since your from Iran tell me how many orphans do you guys have that were born from muta marriage? By the way sexual harassment is much more common in Islamic countries then anywhere else. 

Around 74 percent of Pakistani women from minority communities -- Christians and Hindus -- were sexually harassed, while 43 percent faced religious discrimination at workplaces in 2010 and 2011, a study said.

Up to 70% of files exchanged between Saudi teenagers' mobile phones contain pornography, according to a study in the ultra-conservative Muslim kingdom. 

The study quoted in Arab News focussed on the phones of teenagers detained by religious police for harassing girls. 

The same researcher also found that 88% of girls say they have been victims of harassment using Bluetooth technology.

While reliable statistics on anything are hard to come by in Iraq, officials say there have been as many as 50 suicides this year in this city of 350,000 — at least double the rate in the United States — compared with 80 all of last year. The most common methods among women are self-immolation and gunshots.

The advisor of the president of Afghanistan in health matters estimates that each year 2300 Afghan women and girls, aged between 15 to 40 years who suffer from depression, commit suicide.

Mr. Kakkar said that on the basis of the above information the rate of suicide among women is 5 out of every 100,000.

A 2008 survey by the Egyptian Center for Women's Rights found that 83 percent of Egyptian women and 98 percent of foreign women living in Cairo said they had been harassed in some way -- and 62 percent of men admitted to harassing

Stop deceiving yourself, If USA and ... are Atheist countries? then why on earth they wrote on the Dollar: In God we trust?

Besides, take a look at Nigeria, Half of the country is Christian and the other Half are Muslims, 7% , comparing to other countries you see, the more Christian the more illegitimate children, besides Italy is hosting the Vatican, why that country made a masterpiece in this field too?

Again, your claim is not evident.

This document is reliable, it belongs to Worldfamilymap website which is the most reliable website in this field.

Depression is a gift from the western culture, if what you say is true, that indicates Islamic countries are the most depressed ones? then why on earth do you christians made websties such as 7cups.com and ... websites to prevent suicide and ...

 

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2 minutes ago, Mishael said:

Where is that in the Bible?

Genesis 38

You don't read bible it seems... oh-oh-oh, bad Christian doesn't read the holy book :D

After you read this part, read the genealogy of Jesus in the Matthew 1 and investigate the legitimacy of the people of that list. What I can tell you about that Part is that:

Stop cussing the Jesus(as) the beloved prophet of Allahسُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى

Edited by Hidaren

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Just now, Mishael said:

I'm just saying why forcing women to wear Hijab is bad.

You basically had not any good argument and never answered me what is supposed to be the minimum to wearfor a woman and why we could not let them wearing nothing if after all some of them want that.

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Just now, Mishael said:

If the USA is Christian why allow gay marriage why allow satanists? USA was originally Christian not anymore because the Bible states clearly not to fornicate or commit adultery so the fact Americans do these things just show they aren't following Christianity one bit. 7cups weren't made by Christians if you think westerner equals Christian you must really be blind I'm Christian and I'm not European nor do is western culture Christianity Jesus himself was a Middle Eastern Jew so was John, Peter, Luke, Paul, Barnabas and every other and every other apostle.

Because many of the Christian priests rape boys in the churches said by Pop Francis a few years ago.

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1 minute ago, Mishael said:

If the USA is Christian why allow gay marriage why allow satanists? USA was originally Christian not anymore because the Bible states clearly not to fornicate or commit adultery so the fact Americans do these things just show they aren't following Christianity one bit. 7cups weren't made by Christians if you think westerner equals Christian you must really be blind I'm Christian and I'm not European nor do is western culture Christianity Jesus himself was a Middle Eastern Jew so was John, Peter, Luke, Paul, Barnabas and every other and every other apostle.

If you really think that many christians in middle east dont act or are agree with all this stuffs you are more naive than what i thought before.

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2 minutes ago, Mishael said:

Christians aren't under the Old Testament anymore.

Lol, so you confess that you change your religion as you wish, which means it is no longer the real Christianity, it is a new one and not what God wanted you to be, not what Jesus wanted you to be.

Matthew is in new testament :D:D and its reference is the old testament, so you cast aside Matthew as well?

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2 minutes ago, Mishael said:

If the USA is Christian why allow gay marriage why allow satanists? USA was originally Christian not anymore because the Bible states clearly not to fornicate or commit adultery so the fact Americans do these things just show they aren't following Christianity one bit. 7cups weren't made by Christians if you think westerner equals Christian you must really be blind I'm Christian and I'm not European nor do is western culture Christianity Jesus himself was a Middle Eastern Jew so was John, Peter, Luke, Paul, Barnabas and every other and every other apostle.

MAny christians have no problems with all these stuffs. Why are you so "intolerant" ?

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1 minute ago, Mishael said:

According to your logic if we don't force them to wear hijab they will go out naked.

Could you please turn your brain from off to on please ? Fine. I was just saying that for many cultures that was normal for women to not wear a tshirt or even be naked . So if this is their culture do you will let them wearing like that ? Or you will be intolerant with them and force them to wear more clothes ?

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Once upon a time, Jesus(as) was running so fast, one asked him? Oh, Jesus(as) you never used to do this, what happened?

He responded:" I was arguing with an irrational person, one who couldn't be reasoned with, that's why I am running away."

P.S:I am running away :D (for now)

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2 minutes ago, Mishael said:

Western culture is not Christianity doesn't mean because someone is Christian that he automatically aggressive with western culture. I don't agree with gay marriage or allowing satanism or allowing people to run naked. Because this is not freedom anymore just disgusting things.

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1 minute ago, Hidaren said:

Once upon a time, Jesus(as) was running so fast, one asked him? Oh, Jesus(as) you never used to do this, what happened?

He responded:" I was arguing with an irrational person, one who couldn't be reasoned with, that's why I am running away."

P.S:I am running away :D (for now)

I think i will soon do the same because i never had a lot of patiences with idiots.

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49 minutes ago, Mishael said:

Slight correction there is no definite proof arabs would bury baby girls alive this all comes from Islamic scorches while even pre Islamic poetry doesn't record such events.

The problem is that you can't read Arabic or Persian. There are plenty of books that talk about this issue, with references. Arabic/Persian books discuss so many topics that English books don't, so it's kind of hard to refute anything if you only speak/read in English.

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1 minute ago, Mishael said:

Not all cultures are good if there culture believes in forcing things then I have the right to say no to it. By the way your insults are really just showing me how Muslims act.

So i guess you have no problem to force africans, amerindians etc to remove their cultural clothes to force them to wear western clothes ?

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Just now, Mishael said:

Problem is only Muslims documented the history of pre Islamic Arabia in detail so it's hard to tell how much was fake and how much was true.

That's not how historiography works brother...

That's like saying we can't really trust the Native American accounts because they're native American. Historiography is a science of its own. It is like how we have Ilm-ul-Hadith, the Knowledge of Narrations. As Shias we look into the people who are within the chain of the narration and see their biography. (This is called Ilm-Ul-Rijal, the knowledge of men.) We don't accept ANY hadith, we set specific standards on whom to take ahadith from.

How do we know then what Alexander the Great did was true? Or if William Wallace existed/fought for the Scottish rights? You need to learn about Historiography before you make claims like that. You're basically calling Muslim historians liars right now.

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23 minutes ago, Mishael said:

No all Christians know the Old Testament was never apart of Christianity Jesus said I fulfilled the law it means he completed the Old Testament so it's done, Matthew talks about the genealogy of Jesus so I don't know how that's relevant.

my last answer to you:

Check the legitimacy of that list.

How many of them are illegitimate?

That's what you Christians lack, you only accept what your elders tell you, you don't think, research or investigate the truth.

Besides if you only believe in the new testament, then I tell you that Jesus told this in the Matthew 23:39 to the Pharisis who he was debating with:

For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.'"
 

it means they never saw the Jesus again, yet Matthew 27:32-56 speaks of their presence at the time when Jesus was cruxified.

It means that either Jesus was lying which means the Jews were right or they cruxify someone else which means the truth of the Gospel of Barnabas 215.

 

Yet I am sure you will neither accept this fact nor even bother yourself checking it out, all you will do is denying. For you don't seem a researcher to me.

Edited by Hidaren

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7 minutes ago, Mishael said:

Who said western cloths? I said if their culture teaches to force things on people I have a right to tell them that they shouldn't force them. Tolerance for intolerance is wrong. If they force women to wear certain clothes I'm not going to jut say well it's there culture no what's wrong is wrong wheather an Iranian or an American is doing it.

Well in fact pratically ALL CULTURES force a limit clothers for people this is the point i try to explain to you since a long moment .

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1 hour ago, Hidaren said:

Hassan Rouhani is a disqualified president, he does nothing for the country and he is just buying time and abusing situations to misdirect the people's minds. He was the first man to force women to wear hijab in Iran as he wrote in his memoir book and later he said:" There are some who want to force women to wear hijab, I know them, they are villains and ... :D " just for the sake of a handful of votes.

And now the national currency value is decreasing and people seek an answer from him, to make a divergent, he uses everything he gets, once it is Imam Mahdi(af) by saying:" If Imam of Era comes, we will criticize him" the other time hijab.

BTW each day he says something to postpone answering and that's how he runs the country.

5 years ago he said I have a 100-days plan to fix the economy and now plenty of that 100 days has passed and he did nothing and every year he says:" Next year, the economy will be better and we will do ... in future and ... " :D

He reminds me of Gorbachev of the Soviet Union and Yeltsin as well.

It is not fair to talk about president Rohani like that. He is trying his best but the problems are very complicated. He is not going to misdirect people! At least he is better than Mr. Ahmadinejad.

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