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This was first a tactic used by Muawiya and his cronies to discredit Imam Ali (AS). They tried all kinds of angles and the one that seems to have stuck in the minds of Sunnis is this whole Abu Talib was a kafir nonsense.

If you discredit the father then you discredit the son(s). That's the propaganda that was orginally used and generations of stupid lemmings have followed suit.

Abu Talib is the greatest patron that Islam has ever seen or ever will see. A simple study of his life explains how he gave everything he had for the Holy Prophet (PBUH) and the spreading of Islam. 

Lanat on those that would attempt to defame & discredit the Father of Imams (AS).

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https://www.al-islam.org/nahjul-balagha-part-1-sermons/sermon-200-Allah-muawiyah-not-more-cunning-i-am

https://www.al-islam.org/nahjul-balagha-part-1-sermons/sermon-7-they-have-made-satan-master-their-affairs

Have to learn a lesson, from the past. They are still sweat talking their way in, Charm offensive is on...They distract/.look past the happy face, the flowers in hand and all the huge and kisses ....read what they are really saying....

 

Edited by S.M.H.A.

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Abu Talib (as) is a Muslim for sure, like there's no proof to say that he wasn't, he defended his nephew Rasullulah(sawas) for the sake of Islam, and he kept his faith hidden from the Quraysh to protect his nephew. 

How did he do the nikah of the Prophet(sawaas) and Khadijah(as) if they claim he was a kafir (astaghfirullah)

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On 27/01/2018 at 3:01 PM, 3wliya_maryam said:

Abu Talib (as) is a Muslim for sure, like there's no proof to say that he wasn't, he defended his nephew Rasullulah(sawas) for the sake of Islam, and he kept his faith hidden from the Quraysh to protect his nephew. 

How did he do the nikah of the Prophet(sawaas) and Khadijah(as) if they claim he was a kafir (astaghfirullah)

Sunnis reply that this was before Shariah, in much the same way Alcohol was only forbidden through abrogation after and generally all the laws slowly came into affect to form the religious system. 

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Hazrat Abu Talib played the middle man between Muhammed [saw] and the Quraysh. He knew the moment he openly declares his Islam, that role would be compromised and he would not be able to protect the Prophet [saw]. He acted as the sympathetic uncle, who still adhered to the pagan Gods but felt sorry for his Nephew our of tribal love  - at least this is what the Quraysh  saw. 

His role was very similar to the believing man at the time of Musa [as] , who hid his faith yet played advocate at the same time:

Corpus Quran: "And a believing man from the family of Pharaoh who concealed his faith said, "Do you kill a man [merely] because he says, 'My Lord is Allah ' while he has brought you clear proofs from your Lord? And if he should be lying, then upon him is [the consequence of] his lie; but if he should be truthful, there will strike you some of what he promises you. Indeed, Allah does not guide one who is a transgressor and a liar."

I believe his alleged 'Kufr' is something that only really became an issue during the time of the Ummayads, when there was vehement stage propaganda against the Hashimites , and particularly, Ali ibn Abi Talib [as].  Sunnis would be generally silent and on the fence on this issue, had it not been for authentic Khabar al-Wahid from their own books.

One Sunni view:

 

Edited by Intellectual Resistance

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:bismillah:

أَلَمْ يَجِدْكَ يَتِيمًا فَآوَى
 Has He not found thee an orphan, and given thee shelter? (93:6)
 

Abu Talib (a.s) is the "Shelter" for Islam. Just like his son & grandsons (peace & blessings of Allah be upon them). 
What a great Wali Ullah he is! 

Edited by Salsabeel
instead of "was", i feel appropriate to use "is" after mentioning him

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