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Becoming Freemason change status as Shi'i?

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12 hours ago, wmehar2 said:

Do not all things belong to Allah?  Im confused 

I mean we all return to Allah,   to him we come from to him we return.

Yes. Everything Belongs to Allah. For example when god said my house, it’s for him, not from within him.

so we belong to him, and we will go back to him (not into him like the house).

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19 hours ago, wmehar2 said:

Do not all things belong to Allah?  Im confused 

I mean we all return to Allah,   to him we come from to him we return.

The way I understand it from the hadith, there are differences between a thing created by Allah, a thing said to be "Allah's" because of its esteemed status, and a thing "of Allah" in that it constitutes a part of him (I hesitate to even type a phrase like 'part of Allah').

Obviously, the Imams objected very strongly to something finite and limited (like a soul) belonging to category 2 being identified as something in category 3.

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7 hours ago, wmehar2 said:

No where am I seeing لعلم presumed to be sign in the Quran so far.

I'm going to check every verse with this word just to be sure.

Your reasoning is not right,The words in Quran necessarily don’t have to have one meaning,

forexample, the word یوم does it have one meaning?

https://www.thoughtco.com/creation-of-the-universe-2004201

so be sure, the word علم ,in that sentence, the only translation that gives that sentence a meaning, is : sign.

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5 hours ago, Shaykh Patience101 said:

The way I understand it from the hadith, there are differences between a thing created by Allah, a thing said to be "Allah's" because of its esteemed status, and a thing "of Allah" in that it constitutes a part of him (I hesitate to even type a phrase like 'part of Allah').

Obviously, the Imams objected very strongly to something finite and limited (like a soul) belonging to category 2 being identified as something in category 3.

Excellently said!

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