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Do Shias follow Sufism? Do Shias have Sufi Chains like Chishti, Qadri, Naqshbandi etc. or do they have their own Sufi chains? Or Shias Just like Salafis, NO SUFISM !! :D 

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Shias are not Sufis.

Sufis follow one of the four madhab (jurisprudential schools of thought) of Sunni Islam and maintain a Sunni creed.

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3 hours ago, 3wliya_maryam said:

Sufis are not part of the branch of Shia Islam; altho I've heard that they show great love towards Imam Ali(as)  but I'm not sure

According to us, All Sufi chains were started by Hazrat Ali (RA). Ali (RA) was founder of Sufism.

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Just now, 3wliya_maryam said:

Proof?

I dont have a written proof here. But I heard that Hazrat Ali (RA)'s Patience was the main cause that sufism spread through him.

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Just now, Shah Khan said:

I dont have a written proof here. But I heard that Hazrat Ali (RA)'s Patience was the main cause that sufism spread through him.

But that's like saying that Imam Ali(as) created his own belief system when he didn't; he still continued preaching the Sunnah of the Holy Prophet (sawas)

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1 minute ago, 3wliya_maryam said:

But that's like saying that Imam Ali(as) created his own belief system when he didn't; he still continued preaching the Sunnah of the Holy Prophet (sawas)

Sufism is not something new. Sufism is all about purity. Nothing Else.

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:salam:

It is well known that some orders switched to shia under safavid rule.

23 minutes ago, 3wliya_maryam said:

But that's like saying that Imam Ali(as) created his own belief system when he didn't; he still continued preaching the Sunnah of the Holy Prophet (sawas)

Was it Imam Ali (s) who taught the Nade Ali dua to shias ? Or was itis fabricated by some shias ?

Exact thing may have happened within sufi circles.

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23 minutes ago, Shah Khan said:

Sufism is not something new. Sufism is all about purity. Nothing Else.

But Shias have nothing to do with Sufism though whatever Sufism may be.

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4 minutes ago, realizm said:

:salam:

It is well known that some orders switched to shia under safavid rule.

Was it Imam Ali (s) who taught the Nade Ali dua to shias ? Or was itis fabricated by some shias ?

Exact thing may have happened within sufi circles.

But that's different; that's a dua, not a whole new belief system

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41 minutes ago, Shah Khan said:

Sufism is not something new. Sufism is all about purity. Nothing Else.

Is purity only limited to Sufism?

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10 minutes ago, power said:

Is purity only limited to Sufism?

I think, Yes.

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Salam @Shah Khan, if you would like to know more about this topic, I highly recommend Dr. Rebecca Masterton's course: http://onlineshiastudies.com/esoteric-knowledge-in-tashayyu/ 

You will benefit hugely in your understanding of the topic you have raised here. We can always discuss what you think of the course outline through PM, if you so wish.  Good luck with searching for your answers, may Allah guide you and all of us. 

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22 minutes ago, enigma313 said:

Salam @Shah Khan, if you would like to know more about this topic, I highly recommend Dr. Rebecca Masterton's course: http://onlineshiastudies.com/esoteric-knowledge-in-tashayyu/ 

You will benefit hugely in your understanding of the topic you have raised here. We can always discuss what you think of the course outline through PM, if you so wish.  Good luck with searching for your answers, may Allah guide you and all of us. 

Jazaak Allah Khair <3 

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1 hour ago, power said:

What is your understanding of Purity in Sufism? 

Zikr and Life of Hazrat Ali (RA).

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2 hours ago, 3wliya_maryam said:

But that's different; that's a dua, not a whole new belief system

That is exactly the same thing. 

By the way, sunni tariqas all claim their roots back to the Prophet (sawas), so sunnis have the same debate, yet no one here seems to deny there are sunni sufis.

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if i'm not mistaken, the earliest sufi master in sunnism was hassan al-basri (642 - 728 AD). it evolved due to the corruption of islam brought on by the ummayyad kings.

while in shiaism, asceticism is part and parcel of the teaching of imams from Ahlul Bayt (as).

Historical facts:

1. Imam Ali (as) 600 - 661 AD

2. Imam Hassan bin Ali (as) 625 - 670 AD

3. Imam Hussin bin Ali (as) 626 - 680 AD

4. Imam Ali bin Husin (as) 659 - 713 AD

5. Imam  Muhammad bin Ali  (as) 677 - 733 AD

6. Imam Jafar bin Muhammad (as) 702 - 765 AD

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10 hours ago, Shah Khan said:

Do Shias follow Sufism? Do Shias have Sufi Chains like Chishti, Qadri, Naqshbandi etc. or do they have their own Sufi chains? Or Shias Just like Salafis, NO SUFISM !! :D 

What do you meaning following sofism. 

Do in sofism something else is to be done other than what Prophet saww taught. 

Yes shia follow the irfan or sayer wa suluk. That is purification heart and soul from all sorts of sin and shrik. And heart should be focused on Allah and constantly remember Allah so that he witness devine attributes and names in his heart. 

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8 hours ago, Shah Khan said:

Sufism is not something new. Sufism is all about purity. Nothing Else.

Yes. Shia follow the principles of purity to achieve closeness of Allah though stages of fanafillah and baqabillah. They call it Irfan or sayer wa suluk. 

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6 hours ago, power said:

What is your understanding of Purity in Sufism? 

Purity in shia islam means were ones heart and soul purified from all sorts of shrik. And ones heart free from everything other Allah. So that one witnesses attributes,actions  and names of Allah in ones soul. Then after further purification one achieves wusul or unity with Allah. 

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Salam Sufism in Shia islam is not as that exist in Sunni Islam 

http://nudba.com/wp/sufism-sayed-ammar-nakshawani/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uwais_al-Qarani

http://www.world-federation.org/news/shrine-hazrat-owais-qarni-destroyed-syria

http://ur.wikishia.net/view/اویس_قرنی

http://en.wikishia.net/view/Uways_al-Qarani

http://fa.wikishia.net/view/اویسیه

 

In Shi'a Opinion

In the opinion of Shi'a, Uways has a special status as one of the companions of Imam 'Ali (a),[15] al-Shaykh al-Mufid has named him as one of the Shi'as who pledged allegiance to Imam 'Ali (a).[16]

 Mufid, al-Jamal, p.109

 
Zahad Samaniyah, eight famous zealots at the dawn of Islam, including Amir ibn Abdul Qais, heam ibn Hayan, Rabih ibn Khasim, Owais Qarani, Abu Musalm Kholani, Masrouh bin Ajdah, Hassan Basri and Aswad Bin Yazid. [1]

Fazl ibn Shazan, in a narration cited in Rijal-e Kashi, only Rabi'b ibn Khasim, Heram ibn Hayyān, Owis Qarani and Amir ibn'Abd Qīṣ as the true hermit, and read about Abu Musalm Khowlānī, Masrūq ibn Ajdā and Hassan al-Basri, descriptions such as hypocrite, Mu'awiya taxman, and opportunist. [2] Owais Qarani, the supreme zeal of Zahad Samaniyah has been considered. [3]

Some of Zahad have been companions of Imam Ali (AS). [Needed Source]

Some sources, instead of Aswad bin Yazid, have named Jarir ibn Abdullah Bajli from Zahad Samaniah. [4] [5]

In various sources, the names of Zahad Samaniyeh come in many different ways, including the Heram of bin Hayān, which is called Heram ibn Jāban, [6] Rabi'a ibn-al-Hayyam, mentioned by Rabi'a ibn Khasym [7], and Masruq ibn Ajdā mentioned Ajzā[ 8]. Also, Aswad bin Yazid, in some editions, has been named Baryd or Barir. [9]

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