Jump to content

Rate this topic

Recommended Posts

As Halloween is celebrated now, it is just a commercial and cultural festival. Several fundamentalist Christian denominations object to it's celebration, and their solution is clever. They hold a Fall festival with games, treats, and community so that the children don't feel like they are missing out on the fun. 

Halloween is associated with the pagan (not satanic) celebration, samhain, but like all European holidays, was christianized in the middle ages. In Christian tradition, Halloween is old English for "holy evening", the celebration of the lives of deceased family members and friends, and it takes place on All Souls Day, the day before All Saints Day. (Comparable to Day of the Dead celebrations?)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, notme said:

As Halloween is celebrated now, it is just a commercial and cultural festival. Several fundamentalist Christian denominations object to it's celebration, and their solution is clever. They hold a Fall festival with games, treats, and community so that the children don't feel like they are missing out on the fun. 

Halloween is associated with the pagan (not satanic) celebration, samhain, but like all European holidays, was christianized in the middle ages. In Christian tradition, Halloween is old English for "holy evening", the celebration of the lives of deceased family members and friends, and it takes place on All Souls Day, the day before All Saints Day. (Comparable to Day of the Dead celebrations?)

I didn't say it was created by satanists, but it promotes satanic things like ghosts and death. Furthermore, you just said it is pagan, that is more than enough a good reason to avoid this celebration.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, Najamsethi484 said:

Halloween is not a Islamic festival all muslims should avoid it because it promote satanism and they say go and beg for candies and wear devils clothes no one should defend this haraam festival

Are you mocking someone or opposing this event ? lolz :hahaha:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 minutes ago, E.L King said:

I didn't say it was created by satanists, but it promotes satanic things like ghosts and death. Furthermore, you just said it is pagan, that is more than enough a good reason to avoid this celebration.

Yeah they should avoid it. Muslims also celebrate Valentines Day . Even some celebrate Holi too. I think these event will affect Muslims Eman. Although dressing up like ghosts or something and asking candies door to door is kind of stupid..What is the point of begging for candies  only this day? You can beg for candies on roads every day by being a proffesional begger like wearing costumes and saying every driver.." TRICK  OR  TREAT ! ! ! !":yahoo:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My Islam says that do not interfere into other's religion. Although I want they kids should not be made to see horrible faces but if Christians has this celebration than Muslims are bound to respect their religious practices. 

However, Muslims do not need to borrow cultural values of others, we have our own culture. And, culturally as a Muslim, I would not like to frighten children by Masks and neither will I celebrate Valentine's day for it is even said by the Prophet PBUHHP to married couples: "Do not before Children behave in a manner that they may get wrong impressions". 

Just a side note: Today children know all biology due to some insane cultural events such as that of Valentine while I grew up only knowing that babies are dispatched by those large beak of birds.in hospitals.

However, if a nation has stupid elders then it would surely ruin their children in the name of freedom. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, Najamsethi484 said:

brother im opposing this event not mocking but i can mock if they do this satanic cultural practices

hahahaha, I thought it to be funny thought that how can borrowing candied be satanic. But indeed, making children frightened is Satanic because our Prophet PBUHHP used to say that do not be harsh to a children before age 7 for he is to be treated like a king and when he heard crying a child, he took it in arms and forbade his father not to make him cry for it reminds him crying of Hussain a.s.

No problem in borrowing candies, but frightening is not a good act psychologically to sensitive kids. Why do not we criticize Chirstmas because it is beautiful event and colorful and we love that Prophet Jesus' birthday be celebrated but honestly speaking this Halloween is not good due to element of fear. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Najamsethi484 said:

Halloween is not a Christians thing also many christians oppose this mad festival

Halloween is as Christian as Easter or Christmas.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, monad said:

we should have a sc Halloween party, all the fake whiners are invited.

To some guidance will appear as whining - they tend to be the same people who whine and derail people's threads all the time.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If it ever had any religious basis in the past, today is just a cultural custom. I see no need to object it nor promote it.

We always buy a basket of sweets at home when kids come with the trick or treat thing. It would be very creepy if instead of sweets I just called them pagans.

Kids participate in it just because its fun to have an excuse to go house by house annoying ppl to get chocolate. I can't see where satanism is in such action (except that it gets tiring to open the door constantly).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Bismehe Ta3ala,

Assalam Alikum 

I wonder the people who responded bother to celebrate 14 m3soumeen birthdays during the year.  To make it a joyous occasion for children to remember.  

What about Israa wal M3raj?  3id al ghadeer, anyone?We have so many occasions yet people participate in meaningless holidays.  The trick is on you and you don't even know it. 

Sayyida Zainab and your Imam is on their way from Shaam to Karbala and you choose to give out or take your children out for candy.  Good job!

"Ohhhh, it's for fun we are doing no harm."  It's called hob al dunya and forgetting akheera.

People remember Shaitain and his followers more than their Imams.

M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The only thing Satanic I see is people insisting that it is Satanic or wanting to play e-marja. Don't play e-marja, breeds prideful behavior and you might give people the wrong impression or information about Islam. That's really scary, the scariest thing that I have seen all night.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@Gaius I. Caesar @Bakir @others

Here is the advice given by Ayatullah Sistani to a group of Ziyareen: 

Now a couple of pieces of advice that the respected scholar shared…

He emphasized a lot on two major things, one upbringing of children, starting from the baby stage for teaching our deen, our aqeeda, into wilaya, salat etc. by us practicing it. He was also concerned for our eiman in the West and for the physical well being and told us that he keeps us in his daily duas. His other advice was of checking slowly creeping atheist cultures into our homes. Look around, if you celebrated Halloween this October or you have adorned a Christmas tree in blind following or to blend in, you were part of his concerns. He specifically mentioned Christmas so quoting his concerns here.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I hope no muslims are "celebrating" halloween.

It is the adoption of kafir traditions which bases lay in different heretic and occult religions.

This is not an opinion, it is facts. 

Life is not a game or something to be taken lightly, should we adopt such nonsense and teach it to our children?

 

Anyways, everything put aside, how can we as shias celebrate anything during these mournful days? Yesterday was the wafat of Bibi Sakina(as), in a couple of days in the shahadat of Imam Ridha(as) and then its Arbaeen and then its the shahadat of Imam Hassan(as).

Not such a nice time to celebrate in my opinion if your love for Ahlul Bayt(as) is sincere.

I have a friend who got a very good deal on a trip to go on a paradise island vacation but he didnt go because of the mournful days we are in.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
22 minutes ago, starlight said:

@Gaius I. Caesar @Bakir @others

Here is the advice given by Ayatullah Sistani to a group of Ziyareen: 

Now a couple of pieces of advice that the respected scholar shared…

He emphasized a lot on two major things, one upbringing of children, starting from the baby stage for teaching our deen, our aqeeda, into wilaya, salat etc. by us practicing it. He was also concerned for our eiman in the West and for the physical well being and told us that he keeps us in his daily duas. His other advice was of checking slowly creeping atheist cultures into our homes. Look around, if you celebrated Halloween this October or you have adorned a Christmas tree in blind following or to blend in, you were part of his concerns. He specifically mentioned Christmas so quoting his concerns here.

 

Anyone here want to disagree with ayatollah Sistani?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.

  • Recent Posts on ShiaChat!

    • Guest Boy
      I m 28yrs old .I started praying since last year. I was not knowing the importance of praying.My parents never told me to pray .They were only after my studies.I was busy in my life not knowing the real purpose if life  . I new nothing about what are the duties of muslim. Then Allah guided me at the age of 27 and i started going to masjid . Now i regret why was i so far away from my deen for so many years.Some questions kill me everyday ..Why didnt allahs guidance came early .? .I have to make up for so many prayers.i have asked Allah for forgiveness .Why i hav to still make up?. Is it too late age to get guided ?  Like i have done nothing no namaz no roza ..when my parents never told me about deen how am i responsible ? Now i ask Allah for forgiveness why i still have to make up for qada ?? If i make niyat of making qada after some years is it ok  or i hav to start praying qada ??When were u ppl guided to do these things ? I am feeling very bad..Whatever we learn from childhood imprints in heart ..i have learnt nothing..share ur views please
    • This is not possible because this is a breach of the basis of unity. When its decided that we are not going to discuss about our beliefs. Scholars can sit together and discuss all this but this can't be done in a public scenario.
    • Quran has not talked about the punishment of Apostaty in this world. But we have Sahih hadeeths from Imams. Quran doesn't tell everything explicitly.  When Imam Ali said that "all secrets and knowledge is condensed in Quran" then it means we can't access it but they can. So its better to be satisfied with the hadeetha and Marajes have done a lot of study to accept these hadeeth and Law. And you're not being killed for your belief but your action. Flee to any other Non Muslim country and you're free but if you harm Muslim society by your Apostasy then you are ought to be killed as you are a corrupter.
    • What this means is that we are no longer UNDER the Law, Meaning we don't have to accomplish the hundreds of Laws the Jews had to follow to be HOLY in the sight of God. The same laws which the Jewish people were unable to accomplish except for Jesus which never sinned. That is why God sent his Son to put the Law in our hearts through his new covenant. This does not give us a free passage to sin, It means that God dwells with us and punishes us as children when we disobey and sin.... It is even prophesied in the Hebrew books that God was going to give us this new Covenant. This is what Jesus was meaning when he said this is the NEW TESTAMENT(Covenant). Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
×