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8 minutes ago, islam25 said:

A person desires to marry 18 years girl. 

Other person desires to marry 6 years old. 

As islam donot prohabit it there is no problem in either case.

Does Islam allow to have sexual intercourse with infants? or those who have not reached to maturity?
Does Islam allow child abuse?

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13 minutes ago, Salsabeel said:

Does Islam allow to have sexual intercourse with infants? or those who have not reached to maturity?
Does Islam allow child abuse?

No. What was age Ayesha when Prophet puh married her. 

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A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. If a man does penetrate and damage the child then, he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl will not count as one of his four permanent wives and the man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister… It is better for a girl to marry at such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband’s house, rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven. ["Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990] 

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On 10/10/2017 at 7:57 AM, Salsabeel said:

Does Islam allow to follow low desires (hawa)? if there is no restriction on age, how you see the act of taking sexual pleasure from a neonate? 

Islam  doesn't  allow sexual intercourse. But allow sexual pleasure. 

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How can a healthy normal person think of marrying a little child or have pleasure from her/him???? It is disgusting, inhumane, cruel and immoral!

Even animals dont do it (they dont mate with immature animals).

When Umar proposed to Umm-e Kolthum, Imam Ali said: انها صغیره meaning "she is a child". And she was old enough to understand that Umar was Caliph and threaten him saying "if you were not Amir-al Momineen....". But in Imam's opinion, she was young for marriage.

Quran also says حتی اذا بلغوا النکاح which means "when they reach the age of marriage".

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1 hour ago, alidu78 said:

I just want to be clear toward my intentions i dont want at all to be married with young children but i just want to know if many marjas thought the same as Seyed Khomeini.

Can you thought of marrying hundred year old lady. Definitely no.

But Islam has not prohibited. So at same time islam doesn't force one to marry a kid or a 100 year old lady. 

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9 minutes ago, shadow_of_light said:

How can a healthy normal person think of marrying a little child or have pleasure from her/him???? It is disgusting, inhumane, cruel and immoral!

Even animals dont do it (they dont mate with immature animals).

When Umar proposed to Umm-e Kolthum, Imam Ali said: انها صغیره meaning "she is a child". And she was old enough to understand that Umar was Caliph and threaten him saying "if you were not Amir-al Momineen....". But in Imam's opinion, she was young for marriage.

Quran also says حتی اذا بلغوا النکاح which means "when they reach the age of marriage".

Madam what was age of  Ayesha when she married Prophet puh. 

Islam doesn't prohabit marrying child or kid. 

But at same time no one is forced to marry a children. 

Yes no one think marrying a kid neither a young man think of marrying 100 years old lady. But Islam doesn't prohabit either. 

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3 hours ago, islam25 said:

A person desires to marry 18 years girl. 

Other person desires to marry 6 years old. 

As islam donot prohabit it there is no problem in either case.

The couple should be mature,

Oh Allah,

To You is the return,

Oh You who is the Lord of every creation,

To You is the return.

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11 hours ago, islam25 said:

Mr.what is wrong in above two futwas. 

What do you mean by saying it is disbelievers lied upon scholar.

Oh son of Adam!

Is the Kitab of Allah not clear?

These are lies by the disbelievers,

The disbelievers are taken by their forelock,

“Oh! How evil were we! Nor did we repent!”

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4 minutes ago, Kazemi said:

The couple should be mature,

Oh Allah,

To You is the return,

Oh You who is the Lord of every creation,

To You is the return.

What was age Ayesha when Prophet puh married her. 

The question is simple. Does any authentic ahadith or ayah prohibits marriage with kids or 100 year old lady. 

If not. Then donot talk against it.

Yes it is clear non of parents will all kids to get married. 

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2 minutes ago, Kazemi said:

Oh son of Adam!

Is the Kitab of Allah not clear?

These are lies by the disbelievers,

The disbelievers are taken by their forelock,

“Oh! How evil were we! Nor did we repent!”

Have any Quranic verse prohabitting child marriage. 

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I really dont think that Aisha was a child when she married and there is some evidence for it (comparing her age to her sister's age, her age at the time of her death ...).

Maybe Islam didnt clarify its stance on this issue because it is very obvious that immature people cannot marry.

There is a narration from Imam Sadiq-a-:

«دَعْ اِبْنَکَ یَلْعَبْ سَبْعَ سنینَ وَ یُؤدِّبُ سَبْعَ سِنیِنَ، وَ الْزِمْهُ نَفْسَکَ سَبْعَ سِنینَ»

"Let your child play for 7 years (i.e; until the age 7)...".

According to this and some other narrations, it is children's right to play for their 1st seven years of their lives and marriage will deny them this right.

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Just now, islam25 said:

What was age Ayesha when Prophet puh married her. 

The question is simple. Does any authentic ahadith or ayah prohibits marriage with kids or 100 year old lady. 

If not. Then donot talk against it.

Yes it is clear non of parents will all kids to get married. 

Oh brother,

For you asked your question to people like me,

For they have not given an answer,

Let me be honored,

For the answer to your question:

The age of Aisha bint Abu Bakr,

Was “at least 15 years of age.”, according to Sunni sources.

https://www.quora.com/What-was-the-real-age-of-Aisha-Ra-at-the-time-of-her-marriage

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4 minutes ago, islam25 said:

Have any Quranic verse prohabitting child marriage. 

Surah An-Nisa, Verse 6:

”And test the orphans until they attain puberty; then if you find in them maturity of intellect, make over to them their property, and do not consume it extravagantly and hastily, lest they attain to full age; and whoever is rich, let him abstain altogether, and whoever is poor, let him eat reasonably; then when you make over to them their property, call witnesses in their presence; and Allah is enough as a Reckoner.”

صَدَقَ اللّٰهُ الْعَظِيْم

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11 minutes ago, islam25 said:

The question is simple. Does any authentic ahadith or ayah prohibits marriage with kids or 100 year old lady. 

Oh brother on the Right path,

Brother @alidu78 believed what the disbelievers claim of the leader of the Resistance Revolution, Ayatullah Khomeini.

This is not true,

I hope you are well and that you agree.

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5 minutes ago, shadow_of_light said:

I really dont think that Aisha was a child when she married and there is some evidence for it (comparing her age to her sister's age, her age at the time of her death ...).

Maybe Islam didnt clarify its stance on this issue because it is very obvious that immature people cannot marry.

There is a narration from Imam Sadiq-a-:

«دَعْ اِبْنَکَ یَلْعَبْ سَبْعَ سنینَ وَ یُؤدِّبُ سَبْعَ سِنیِنَ، وَ الْزِمْهُ نَفْسَکَ سَبْعَ سِنینَ»

"Let your child play for 7 years (i.e; until the age 7)...".

According to this and some other narrations, it is children's right to play for their 1st seven years of their lives and marriage will deny them this right.

That is OK. 

Question limits of age in marriage. If islam doesn't specifically prohabit the kids to get married. 

What if the parents of kids both male and female agreed for child marriage. 

So where is problem. 

Definitely non of parents will agree that their infants to get married. Neither any onIs Is forced to do so.

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9 minutes ago, Kazemi said:

Surah An-Nisa, Verse 6:

”And test the orphans until they attain puberty; then if you find in them maturity of intellect, make over to them their property, and do not consume it extravagantly and hastily, lest they attain to full age; and whoever is rich, let him abstain altogether, and whoever is poor, let him eat reasonably; then when you make over to them their property, call witnesses in their presence; and Allah is enough as a Reckoner.”

صَدَقَ اللّٰهُ الْعَظِيْم

Mr.

Where the above verses prohibits child marriage. 

And can a 100 year old lady marry 16 year old boy? 

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15 minutes ago, Kazemi said:

Oh brother on the Right path,

Brother @alidu78 believed what the disbelievers claim of the leader of the Resistance Revolution, Ayatullah Khomeini.

This is not true,

I hope you are well and that you agree.

Dear brother, 

This is true that many disbelievers said lies about sayed Khomeini however what I said is true and if you not belive you could just read his book. However now this is not my question, I am just asking here if most of Marjas thought the same thing about this point. 

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24 minutes ago, Kazemi said:

Oh brother on the Right path,

Brother @alidu78 believed what the disbelievers claim of the leader of the Resistance Revolution, Ayatullah Khomeini.

This is not true,

I hope you are well and that you agree.

Mr.

Imam Khomeini has given such futwa and I have read from book on net. 

So that is not lie. 

Again there is no Quranic evidence that prohibits child marriage. 

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3 minutes ago, islam25 said:

Mr.

Imam Khomeini has given such futwa and I have read from book on net. 

So that is not lie. 

Again there is no Quranic evidence that prohibits child marriage. 

Again i am not talking about child marriage but "sexual pleasure with children".

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2 minutes ago, alidu78 said:

Again i am not talking about child marriage but "sexual pleasure with children".

Do you mean sexual pleasure without marriage. 

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1 minute ago, islam25 said:

Do you mean sexual pleasure without marriage. 

Well i had difficulties to accept the idea that marjas allow "sexual pleasure" with children with or without marriage....

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On 10/10/2017 at 11:12 AM, islam25 said:

Mr.

Imam Khomeini has given such futwa and I have read from book on net. 

So that is not lie. 

Again there is no Quranic evidence that prohibits child marriage. 

[Image removed]

This is not true and this language does not fit to Ayatullah Khomeini.

On 10/10/2017 at 11:05 AM, alidu78 said:

Dear brother, 

This is true that many disbelievers said lies about sayed Khomeini however what I said is true and if you not belive you could just read his book. However now this is not my question, I am just asking here if most of Marjas thought the same thing about this point. 

Oh brother,

By the name of Yaseen,

Sexual pleasure to a newborn,

Who has not discovered this Ard and the bountaries,

Is rejected by scholars, including Ayatullah Khomeini,

If you have found the opposite,

Then show me this,

By Allah,

This is but an obvious lie.

Edited by Hameedeh
[EDIT] Image of Ayatullah Khomeini RA with a mistranslated quote was removed.

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