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?!? Ashura everyone I hope that you all achieve your spiritual guidance from God and what not but anyways I hope that God blesses you all even though I'm not Shia or Muslim.

Edited by Haji 2003
Replaced an inappropriate word

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On 9/30/2017 at 1:20 PM, Mishael said:

Happy Ashura everyone I hope that you all achieve your spiritual guidance from God and what not but anyways I hope that God blesses you all even though I'm not Shia or Muslim.

Happy is not the best word to use.  

'Lest we forget'.

Unless this a message to Sunnis as well. 

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Some years ago I had occasion to write to the BBC since they kept using the words festival/celebration in the context of Muharram.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/4697270.stm

By the same measure, the OP used a similarly inappropriate word so I have amended it. For the benefit of the OP this is a mourning event, so we don't use the word Happy in this context.

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1 minute ago, Haji 2003 said:

Some years ago I had occasion to write to the BBC since they kept using the words festival/celebration in the context of Muharram. By the same measure, the OP used a similarly inappropriate word so I have amended it.

Lest we forget.

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1 hour ago, Mishael said:

Your going to remember Husseins death I believe isn't this the same day Sunnis fast since some Saudis are Are fasting.

We must realize that the magnitude of the sacrifice that Husayn (as) and his followers made is much greater than to celebrate. Men, children and women had no water for 2 days. The men and children were slaughtered and the woman were taken as slaves.

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14 minutes ago, Mishael said:

That may be true but you would require evidence for that but back then anything was possible so maybe he did.

He did do it. You dont need evidence to determine the character of a man like Yazid.

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16 minutes ago, Mishael said:

That may be true but you would require evidence for that but back then anything was possible so maybe he did.

Load of books for that if you want to read I could give you in urdu.

34 minutes ago, AfricanShia said:

I was informed that Yazid was a bisexual and committed incest with his mother.

That is true, Yazid was worst person among worst of the worst. 

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People here might not like what I have to say but I always viewed the rule of the Banu Ummaya as tolerant to Christians and other non Muslims so aslong as they were Arabs since at that time you would find Christian Arabs in the government but never a Persian Muslim or an African Muslim so they were also racist.

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4 minutes ago, Mishael said:

People here might not like what I have to say but I always viewed the rule of the Banu Ummaya as tolerant to Christians and other non Muslims so aslong as they were Arabs since at that time you would find Christian Arabs in the government but never a Persian Muslim or an African Muslim so they were also racist.

Muawiya was a political garbage and not a devotee to religion. I would like to ask you was there any Muslim in the government of Popes ? 

Would Jesus allow any man of unbelief to rule his man ? No, he would not. 

This is not a question about being tolerant or intolerance, government in Islamic dominant land where there is Muslim majority, could only be ruled by a Muslim of good faith which would have necessary qualifications as according to Islam. But minorities would be allowed for doing jobs and earning their livelihood and could enter in politics for their minorities and for asking their rights. Field of Education and those which do not relate with the ideology of Islamic government could be given to non-Muslim people but with the care that they should not contravene the Islamic principles. For this purpose, I would cite an example:- Prophet PBUHHP appointed non-Muslims to teach Muslims mathematics in lieu of their release from captivity. So, there are examples but they cannot be made an important positions as it may happen that they bring their wrong ideologies and agendas within Islamic system in the name of freedom. 

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Well yes that was obviously politics since muawiyah wanted the Christians to like him and be on his side so he could find allies within the middle eastern Christians and use them against his enemies.

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1 minute ago, Mishael said:

Well yes that was obviously politics since muawiyah wanted the Christians to like him and be on his side so he could find allies within the middle eastern Christians and use them against his enemies.

I will admit one thing: Muawiyah had a powerful political system, dynasty but he was a corrupt person. He was evil. He hated the Holy Prophet and his family. And his political status doesnt change who he was and the corruption he brought. 

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Yazid was quoted saying this after he murdered Hussein ibn Ali ibn Abi Talib, Had my forefathers seen this deed of mine, they would have been filled with pride and would have said, ‘O Yazid, you have avenged us, may your hands never be afflicted by paralysis!"

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he and his father [Yazid and Muawiyah] are LAANAT ULLAH.. not one not two millions and millions of laanat on them both.. they will burn in hell they will get the worst from Allah for they did to HUSSAIN A.S and to his FAMILY AND ASHAAB A.S

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OUR HEARTS burn with so much hatred for qatelan e HUSSAIN A.S... may OUR IMAM MEHDI A.T.F.S come sooner and take the revenge of our beloved IMAM HUSSAIN A.S  

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8 hours ago, Mishael said:

It remides me of the selfless sacrifice of Jesus which makes me like Hussein ibn Ali.

اَلسَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكَ يَا وَارِثَ آدَمَ صَفْوَةِ ٱللَّهِ

alssal¡mu `alayka y¡ w¡ritha ¡dama ¥afwati all¡hi

Peace be upon you, O inheritor of Adam the choice of Allah.

اَلسَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكَ يَا وَارِثَ نُوحٍ نَبِيِّ ٱللَّهِ

alssal¡mu `alayka y¡ w¡ritha n£¦in nabiyyi all¡hi

Peace be upon you, O inheritor of Noah the prophet of Allah.

اَلسَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكَ يَا وَارِثَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ خَلِيلِ ٱللَّهِ

alssal¡mu `alayka y¡ w¡ritha ibr¡h¢ma khal¢li all¡hi

Peace be upon you, O inheritor of Abraham the intimate friend of Allah.

اَلسَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكَ يَا وَارِثَ مُوسَىٰ كَلِيمِ ٱللَّهِ

alssal¡mu `alayka y¡ w¡ritha m£s¡ kal¢mi all¡hi

Peace be upon you, O inheritor of Moses the spoken by Allah.

اَلسَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكَ يَا وَارِثَ عِيسَىٰ رُوحِ ٱللَّهِ

alssal¡mu `alayka y¡ w¡ritha `¢s¡ r£¦i all¡hi

Peace be upon you, O inheritor of Jesus the spirit of Allah.

اَلسَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكَ يَا وَارِثَ مُحَمَّدٍ حَبِيبِ ٱللَّهِ

alssal¡mu `alayka y¡ w¡ritha mu¦ammadin ¦ab¢bi all¡hi

Peace be upon you, O inheritor of Mu¦ammad the most beloved by Allah.

اَلسَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكَ يَا وَارِثَ امِيرِ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ عَلَيْهِ ٱلسَّلاَمُ

alssal¡mu `alayka y¡ w¡ritha am¢ri almu'min¢na

Peace be upon you, O inheritor of the Commander of the Faithful, peace be upon him.

اَلسَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكَ يَا بْنَ مُحَمَّدٍ ٱلْمُصْطَفَىٰ

alssal¡mu `alayka yabna mu¦ammadin almu¥§af¡

Peace be upon you, O son of Mu¦ammad the well-chosen Prophet.

اَلسَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكَ يَا بْنَ عَلِيٍّ ٱلْمُرْتَضَىٰ

alssal¡mu `alayka yabna `aliyyin almurta¤¡

Peace be upon you, O son of `Al¢ the well-pleased.

اَلسَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكَ يَا بْنَ فَاطِمَةَ ٱلزَّهْرَاءِ

alssal¡mu `alayka yabna f¡§imata alzzahr¡'i

Peace be upon you, O son of F¡§imah the luminous lady.

اَلسَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكَ يَا بْنَ خَدِيـجَةَ ٱلْكُبْرَىٰ

alssal¡mu `alayka yabna khad¢jata alkubr¡

Peace be upon you, O son of Khad¢jah the grand lady.

اَلسَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكَ يَا ثَارَ ٱللَّهِ وَٱبْنَ ثَارِهِ

alssal¡mu `alayka y¡ th¡ra all¡hi wabna th¡rih¢

Peace be upon you, O vengeance of Allah, son of His vengeance,

وَٱلْوِتْرَ ٱلْمَوْتُورَ

walwitra almawt£ra

and the unavenged so far.

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On 9/30/2017 at 2:33 PM, Sindbad05 said:

That is true, Yazid was worst person among worst of the worst. 

[MOD NOTE: WARNING: The link has disturbing information about Yazid's crimes.]

This is a compilation of what Ahlul Sunnah historians wrote about Yazid LA.

https://www.imamreza.net/eng/imamreza.php?id=5929

Edited by Hameedeh
To add the MOD NOTE.

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On 10/1/2017 at 0:16 AM, Mishael said:

Well yes that was obviously politics since muawiyah wanted the Christians to like him and be on his side so he could find allies within the middle eastern Christians and use them against his enemies.

Exactly, like Jews needed Romans to crucify Prophet Jesus a.s, Muawiya needed any anti-Muslim living near him whether it be Christian or hypocrites among Muslims against Imam Ali a.s.

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