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Assalamu'Alaikum.

 

It is the work of God that He سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى humiliates, ruins and destroys the people, who go against those that He سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى holds dear, in their life-time. He سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى ruined Fira'oun (Pharoah?) when he went against Moses. He سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى ruined Yazid when he went against Hussain (a). etc. etc.

So if what shias say about The Caliphs is true, then why did Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى not destroy and ruin the people who went against Ahlelbayt?

Also, why did Allah not clearly mention their demise in the Qu'ran?

 

Please explain.
Jazak Allahu Khayr.

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30 minutes ago, Zavon said:

So if what shias say about The Caliphs is true, then why did Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى not destroy and ruin the people who went against Ahlelbayt?

 

Please explain.
Jazak Allahu Khayr.

:salam:

Brother, there are many people who think that people who went against Ahlebayt were munafiq and they will pray in hereafter. Like Faroun will pay in hereafter. Pharaoh claimed to be Allah and he did so much bad but in the end what happened he just got drowned and died so was it enough for all the sins he committed? I don't think i think he should have suffered but Allah just made him an example for the rest of people. He claimed to be god but he died like a normal people because he was not a god. And he will pay for the sins he committed, but after death. He will suffer in hell for eternity. Same thing goes for people who went against Ahlebayt. 

 

36 minutes ago, Zavon said:

Also, why did Allah not clearly mention their demise in the Qu'ran?

Quran gave us the definition of munafiq and Quran told us that they are worse than non-believers. And people who have mind they could figure out those people. 

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3 minutes ago, Ron_Burgundy said:

:salam:

... he will pay for the sins he committed, but after death. He will suffer in hell for eternity. Same thing goes for people who went against Ahlebayt. 

And that doesn't answer why the Caliphs did not suffer the ruining of their Caliphate while they clearly went against the most important figures of Islam. While the work of God is that He destroys them like Yazid, Pharoah/Firaoun, etc.

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29 minutes ago, Zavon said:

And that doesn't answer why the Caliphs did not suffer the ruining of their Caliphate while they clearly went against the most important figures of Islam. While the work of God is that He destroys them like Yazid, Pharoah/Firaoun, etc.

Firaoun and yazid just died they didn't suffer. 

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36 minutes ago, Zavon said:

And that doesn't answer why the Caliphs did not suffer the ruining of their Caliphate while they clearly went against the most important figures of Islam. While the work of God is that He destroys them like Yazid, Pharoah/Firaoun, etc.

They ruined their akhira, that is the punishment of Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى.

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1 hour ago, Zavon said:

So if what shias say about The Caliphs is true, then why did Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى not destroy and ruin the people who went against Ahlelbayt?

Things Allah didn't do, we can't answer why He didn't do. He is greatest planner of all. But what caliphs did with Ahlul Bayth (A.S) we clearly know. Even after 1400 years,  today nobody can deny rights they took away from Ahlul bayth (A.S). These caliphs didn't obey and disrespected Alhul Bayth (A.S). This is why followers of Ahlul bayth (A.S) still curse them and that's how Allah ruined them :-). 

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u r wearing a shirt. someone grab ur shirt and took it away.

the shirt is still your shirt

same thing with kingdom. someone usurp it, means it only happened with Allah's permission.

imam jafar as-sadiq (as) explained it beautifully, but i forget the source.


 

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11 hours ago, Zavon said:

Assalamu'Alaikum.

 

Also, why did Allah not clearly mention their demise in the Qu'ran?

 

 

wa'alaikumussallam

as for me, i try not to question Allah's actions too hard. my mind is too simple to comprehend them, most of times.

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