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Ethnic Cleansing in Rakhine State, Myanmar.

Burmese Racial Purification Program -2013 (Note: this entitling is my opine.)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/25/burma-muslims-two-child-limit

The TV news this morning said that shot women and children are arriving in Bangledesh. This is what l could find as confirmation:

Like the WW2 Japanese Army on Guam and in Shanghai: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/02/rohingya-minority-beheaded-burned-alive-burma-army/ 

http://www.albiladailyeng.com/myanmar-army-accused-carrying-extrajudicial-killings-rohingyas-restive-rakhine-region/ 

Opine: The An San Sure Ki-lers --although commentary by western apologists claims the army is really in control-- are doing "extrajudicial killings" so as not to clog the court system with minorities already sentenced to death.

Various propaganda terms, such as "counter-insurgency", "militants", etc are being propounded by the Myanmar gov't and Western Media.

 

MAP:

Burma20Shwe20pipeline.png 

extremist-buddhists-attacking-3.png 

Kachin People -- Northern Areas of Masacres

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kachin_people  according tot this source, 2/3rds of Kachins identify themselves as Christian while the 2014 Myanmar "census" declares that only 34% are "chr!stian". MAP: 20130202_asm953.png 

Edited by hasanhh
Maps, ETC.

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This is from an email from Muslim Congress. Ways that you can help inshaAllah. 

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Here is how you can help: 
 
1. Contact the Embassy of Myanmar by email and demand that the persecution of Rohingya Muslim is stopped immediately. 
 
Email: pyi.thayar@yahoo.com 
Email: mewdcusa@yahoo.com 
Email: myanmarecousa@gmail.com 
 
2. Also call the Embassy of Myanmar and register your protest by demanding that the persecution of Rohingya Muslim be stopped immediately. 
 
Tel. Numbers: (202) 332-3344 (202) 332-4250 (202) 332-4352 
(202) 238-9332 (202) 332-4354 
 
3. If you are part of an organization in North America please send an Official Letter to the Embassy of Myanmar. Embassy Of Myanmar, 2300 S Street. N.W Wa

I wasn't sure of the appropriate format for writing such emails but I did so anyway, hopefully it makes some difference God willing. 

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1 hour ago, ireallywannaknow said:

This is from an email from Muslim Congress. Ways that you can help inshaAllah. 

I wasn't sure of the appropriate format for writing such emails but I did so anyway, hopefully it makes some difference God willing. 

Buddy! I did write such email when Persecutions in Bahrain were going on. My brother stopped me and said - Don't go personal. I asked why. He said - When me and my friends did some sort of embassy protest they enquired us and took all our information. They provide such information to Intelligence services of your own country! You won't even know but they have an eye on your activitoes - online / offline. So don't loose your personal info. What you can do is - March on roads to make people who are unaware know about it. Also you can conduct Dua sessions. 

 

 

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همین امروز شما ملاحظه کنید؛ در یک کشوری در شرق آسیا - در میانمار - هزاران انسان مسلمان دارند کشته میشوند، دارند فدا میشوند، بر اثر تعصب، بر اثر جهالت - اگر نگوئیم دستهای سیاسی در خود همین مسئله وجود دارد؛ فرض کنیم همان طور که ادعا میشود، بر اثر تعصبهای دینی و مذهبی است - مدعیان دروغین حقوق بشر لب تر نمیکنند. همانهائی که برای حیوانات دل میسوزانند، همانهائی که اگر در جوامعی که مستقل از آنها هستند، وابسته‌ی به آنها نیستند، کوچکترین بهانه‌ای پیدا کنند، صد برابر آن را بزرگ میکنند، اینجا در مقابل کشتار یک عده انسان بی‌گناه، بی‌دفاع، زن، مرد، کودک، سکوت میکنند؛ توجیه هم میکنند! این، حقوق بشر اینهاست؛ حقوق بشرِ منقطع از اخلاق، منقطع از معنویت، منقطع از خدا. میگویند اینها میانماری نیستند؛ خب، گیرم نباشند - البته دروغ میگویند، سیصد چهارصد سال است که اینها در آنجا زندگی میکنند؛ آنطور که به ما گزارش میشود - باید کشته شوند؟! همین حالت در طول سالهای متمادی در همان کشور و در کشورهای مجاور، از سوی غربی‌ها، بخصوص از سوی انگلیس، نسبت به همان مردم وجود داشته. پدر این مردم را درآوردند؛ هرجا پا گذاشتند، جز فساد و نابودی حرث و نسل - همان طور که خدای متعال در قرآن میفرماید - کاری نکردند. بله، برای اینکه بازار محصولات پیدا کنند، بازارهائی را آراسته کردند؛ مردم را با محصولات جدید آشنا کردند، برای اینکه تجارت خودشان را رونق بدهند. این تمدن، منقطع از معنویت و قرآن است.

http://farsi.khamenei.ir/speech-content?id=20482

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On 9/4/2017 at 2:15 AM, Mohamed1993 said:

Yes... one cancer of the planet helping out another cancer of the planet, may Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى destroy all oppressors by his will and our hands.

 

I asked one of the local guys at the place I am currently working, he is a bangladeshi muslim, I asked him:

Why doesnt the muslim in bangladesh help the Rohingya muslims? He said he dont know, he said they try to help them.

And I asked him, how? When they come to bangladesh as refugees they send them back and when they get sent back the military in Burma rape the women and kill the kids and men, etc.

I asked him, why dont they allow them to stay in bangladesh?

He said they are too many and that they belong to Burma.

I told him, but you guys are muslim and they are muslims, doesnt mean anything? How big is the current population in bangladesh? Because the Rohingyas are only less than 1 million people.

He said that he doesnt know the population of bangladesh, I go back to the office later on and google it, turns out they are 163 million people there....

Ya Rabb! If they are 163 million people there currently, they wont take in less than one million oppressed muslims who are getting killed and raped because they consider it "too many"? How is 1 million more, too many when your population is 163 million and growing?

It would have made more sense if they were 1 million in the country and 1 million more would double their population, but this...

Ya Allah, your the friend and helper of the oppressed, please increase their rizq and decrease the rizq of the hypocrites and delete the rizq of the oppressors!

Please brothers and sisters, make duas for the oppressed!

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1 minute ago, IbnSina said:

Yes... one cancer of the planet helping out another cancer of the planet, may Allah سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى destroy all oppressors by his will and our hands.

 

I asked one of the local guys at the place I am currently working, he is a bangladeshi muslim, I asked him:

Why doesnt the muslim in bangladesh help the Rohingya muslims? He said he dont know, he said they try to help them.

And I asked him, how? When they come to bangladesh as refugees they send them back and when they get sent back the military in Burma rape the women and kill the kids and men, etc.

I asked him, why dont they allow them to stay in bangladesh?

He said they are too many and that they belong to Burma.

I told him, but you guys are muslim and they are muslims, doesnt mean anything? How big is the current population in bangladesh? Because the Rohingyas are only less than 1 million people.

He said that he doesnt know the population of bangladesh, I go back to the office later on and google it, turns out they are 163 million people there....

Ya Rabb! If they are 163 million people there currently, they wont take in less than one million oppressed muslims who are getting killed and raped because they consider it "too many"? How is 1 million more, too many when your population is 163 million and growing?

It would have made more sense if they were 1 million in the country and 1 million more would double their population, but this...

Ya Allah, your the friend and helper of the oppressed, please increase their rizq and decrease the rizq of the hypocrites and delete the rizq of the oppressors!

Please brothers and sisters, make duas for the oppressed!

When we have such hypocrisy within our own muslim community, is it any surprise that others will seek to exploit this and profit from it? Perhaps people will say they created this division, well who do we blame for prolonging it then? Too much ego amongst people sadly. 

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On 3 September 2017 at 4:49 PM, Haydar Husayn said:

No idea. Maybe they find it easier to get worked up about situations involving Jews. Apparently Bangladesh, who you think would be helping the Rohingya, want good relations with Burma, and are in fact trying to stop refugees crossing the border.

I think another problem is that Burma aren't allowing journalists into the country, so there is a lack of visual imagery that helps stir people's emotions.

Here is some visual imagery http://instagram.com/pray.for.arakan

very sickening, as helpless as I feel, I have donated to some charities for this cause, i pray Allah helps them. 

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23 minutes ago, Mohamed1993 said:

When we have such hypocrisy within our own muslim community, is it any surprise that others will seek to exploit this and profit from it? Perhaps people will say they created this division, well who do we blame for prolonging it then? Too much ego amongst people sadly. 

Yes hypocrisy within our own community indeed and what greater hypocrisy than the betrayal of the succession of the holy Prophet(S) and the denial of his family(as)?

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I've met quite a few rohingya refugees it is absolutely horrible what is happening to them there and what they told me personally what the buddhists did to their families and villages.. Oh Allah help them have mercy on them and destroy their enemies. ameen ya rab.

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On 04/09/2017 at 8:30 AM, Reza said:

and now Burma too?

The genocide of the Rohyinga in Myanmar (Burma) has been going for a long time.

And everyone has just ignored it - the UN included.

Only now has everyone's attention suddenly turned to Burma.

This is probably the biggest genocide of the last 50 or 100 years.

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When Aang San Suu Kyi was behind bars, I felt for her because of her struggle for democracy. Albeit, as soon as she came into government office, the "Colonialism" became apparent from the incident of Rohingya Muslims. The current killings of innocent Rohingya Muslims is nothing but a west's plot to create another satellite state where they could deploy their army to look over this unstable region for causing further instability. 

Before, Aang San Suu Kyi, the Mission of Western Anti-progressive agency which wants all of the populace of the world to be their slaves by stopping their progress, was to install Aang San Suu Kyi's government. And since that objective is achieved their second objective is to deploy their army on the name of human rights and later on they would carry their intelligence network their followed by creating further instability in the region by creating problems for all the neighboring countries specially China.

It may happen that after they achieve their objective, they would penetrate into China and start supporting for democracy campaign to bring Koumintang (KMT) sort of party for controlling china indirectly. 

For Pakistan, it is also a grave danger as it is said by Imam Ali a.s that "Enemy of friend is your enemy". The reason are two: 1) Plight of Rohingya Muslims 2) Threats for China.

The choices for solutions are limited and threats are great. If Pakistan supports hypocritical attitude of USA and Britain, it will add to the influence of western evil mind so it will be an indirect support for them. The only option available seems to be diplomacy and that is if Pakistani President or Prime Minister visits Mayanmar and requests them to stop it, however, it also seems that due to Western influence on Myanmar's government, it will be rejected. 

The solution now lies in covert struggles for stopping this bad game because it is said in Urdu: "If you cannot pull something out with compassion, it could only be achieved through strict means". 

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4 hours ago, myouvial said:

I suspect "Rohingya's crisis" is mainly because of hateness, racism of Burmese people in common.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/09/violence-lead-exodus-300000-rohingya-170907024358023.html

This wasn't an issue before Aang San Suu Kyi's coming to office. How such issue becomes apparent when she joined the office and secondly, why did she reject Chinese request to help Bangladesh and Mayanmar solve this crisis. It seems she is playing some sort of game within her country. 

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To those who blame Iran for everything that happens in the globe; for long, Iran leadership has been on this issue, but like other issues, the so called new world order wouldn't permit any real change in the situation.

َAyt. Sayyid Ali Khamenei:

"News coming from Burma takes away sleep from one's eyes." 4 March, 1992

http://farsi.khamenei.ir/speech-content?id=2604

I am not pro-Iran and the persian delusion etc. and I personally and for obvious reasons, hate those Iranian individuals, newspapers, circles etc. who, from the beginning of the revolution, would constantly pressure the leadership to stop supporting the resistance movement, Afghans, Bosnians etc. and just now they repeat their slogan "we have already done so much without any return, except sanctions."

Yes, there are newspapers in Iran that day and night publish this garbage and mislead public opinion inside. They put a picture of one guy who died out of poverty somewhere in Iran, and say we should build our country first and not be adventurous out of our borders. The current administration is in the same camp.

Now, given all these complications, let's stop blaming each other, or worrying about what Munafiqun are doing, and instead, do something effective.

The Holy Prophet (s) said:

اذا امتی تواکلت الامر بالامر المعروف و النهی عن المنکر، فلیأذنوا بوقاع من الله.

"When my nation do Tawakul in commanding right and forbidding wrong, let them be ready for a catastrophe from God." 

Tawakul means I say "why you do not do it" you say "why you do not do it" and he says "why she does not do it"

and at the end of the day, no one does it and instead, fight with each other.

 

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Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif has criticized the global community for remaining silent on the persisting violence against the persecuted Rohingya Muslims, calling for "crucial" action to end the acts of aggression against the minority group.  

“Global silence on continuing violence against #Rohingya Muslims. Int’l action crucial to prevent further ethnic cleansing—UN must rally,” Zarif wrote in a tweet on Wednesday.

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TEHRAN (Tasnim) – The Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) voiced readiness to provide whatever support is necessary to the persecuted Muslims of Myanmar, and condemned the ongoing violence against Rohingya as part of an “organized anti-Islamic plot” that could mark a genocide in the history.

In a statement released on Thursday, the IRGC strongly condemned the heinous crimes against Muslim people in Myanmar, saying the Islamic world and the international organizations are duty bound to address such persecution of Rohingya Muslims.

"The gruesome crimes of extremist Buddhist groups and the Myanmarese army against Rohingya Muslims... spell an organized anti-Islamic plot that, if not stopped, would result in another major genocide in the history of humanity," the statement added.

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Rouhani: Iran Ready to Help Myanmar to Improve Muslims' Conditions

 

TEHRAN (FNA)- Iranian President Hassan Rouhani voiced Tehran's preparedness to help Myanmar take the necessary measures to improve the conditions of the Muslims living in that country.

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On ‎3‎-‎9‎-‎2017 at 1:04 AM, Dhulfikar said:

I wonder why the rest of Muslims are not helping, because of the different race?

Just tell them the atrocities are commited by Shia's and the 'jihadi's' will be trained, armed, financed and sent immediately.

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I don't understand it anyway. Muslim countries tell Bangladesh to open its borders while in the case of Syria and Libya they all supported for intervention.

It seems there is hidden agenda. Something ain't right.

 

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https://sputniknews.com/columnists/201709051057114181-myanmar-after-rohingya-violence/. Of course what is happening right now is awful and we need to ensure we speak out and pray for those suffering and help out with the means we have, but be careful when you see calls for intervention, its never about humanitarianism, it's always about geopolitics and economics. The author Andrew Korybko has done a very good job of reporting on Syria as well and from what I've seen he's even called out Russia for its acceptance of Israeli attacks in Syria, something I've noted too. 

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On ‎4‎-‎9‎-‎2017 at 2:31 PM, hasanhh said:

The rohingaya are "in-the-path" of an oil pipeline plan.  [kinda like Native-Americns being "in-the-path" of railroads, wagon trails, mines, ... ]

The news 04Sept said 87,000 have fled.

As I said if it was a muslim country they would have intervened by stirring up sectarianism supporting terrorist groups or sending Nato troops or planes.

Now they simply do not even correct or Judge the Myanmar government only telling the muslims to go to Bangladesh.

Probably as you said. There must be something in the ground so to want to get rid of its population.

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3 minutes ago, Faruk said:

Probably as you said. There must be something in the ground so to want to get rid of its population.

It's actually the opposite, the Burmese govt. is allied with China, the West intervening on humanitarian grounds would be to curb that influence and claim to act as humanitarians in the same way NATO did in Kosovo, when they claimed they bravely liberated it from the Serbs, only to then benefit from it themselves. I don't think you can trust any govt. to do anything about this, the best we can hope for is a resolution that can lead to peace, bombs dropping down will not serve any purpose other than to protect other interests. 

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