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16 hours ago, SheikhAlHabib'fan said:

There is little confusion please clear it for me.

1. Why philosophy is so condemned in irfan? Person need reasoning and logic to understand some part of religion. We can't accept and follow blindly  anything told to us. Yes there are some parts where we can't use philosophy but in some areas we need to use reasoning to understand religion.

2. We shias also believe, Allah created noor of Ahlul Bayth (A.S) first, then from the noor of Ahlul Bayth (A.S)  He create all other creations, and we shias are also part of that noor (please correct me if we shias don't believe in this concept). Isn't this concept is same as Wahdat ul wajood?

3. We are not at all allowed to listen these kind of zikr?

 

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43 minutes ago, SIAR14 said:

 

There is little confusion please clear it for me.

1. Why philosophy is so condemned in irfan? Person need reasoning and logic to understand some part of religion. We can't accept and follow blindly  anything told to us. Yes there are some parts where we can't use philosophy but in some areas we need to use reasoning to understand religion.

2. We shias also believe, Allah created noor of Ahlul Bayth (A.S) first, then from the noor of Ahlul Bayth (A.S)  He create all other creations, and we shias are also part of that noor (please correct me if we shias don't believe in this concept). Isn't this concept is same as Wahdat ul wajood?

3. We are not at all allowed to listen these kind of zikr?

 

Not only shia every creature is Allah's attributes. So irfan means knowing from hwart everything is manifestation of Attributes of Allah. 

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1 hour ago, SIAR14 said:

 

There is little confusion please clear it for me.

1. Why philosophy is so condemned in irfan? Person need reasoning and logic to understand some part of religion. We can't accept and follow blindly  anything told to us. Yes there are some parts where we can't use philosophy but in some areas we need to use reasoning to understand religion.

2. We shias also believe, Allah created noor of Ahlul Bayth (A.S) first, then from the noor of Ahlul Bayth (A.S)  He create all other creations, and we shias are also part of that noor (please correct me if we shias don't believe in this concept). Isn't this concept is same as Wahdat ul wajood?

3. We are not at all allowed to listen these kind of zikr?

 

Some aspects of aqeedah can be debated using philosophy and other not.

Islamic ulema normally discourage engaging philosophy among the laypeople for valid reasons, however there is a certain bias positions in Islamic circles. One example today is modern day atharis (followers of the Hanbali Madhab) that while they condemn philosophy as whole saying is a blameworthy innovation they actually engage in philosophy. According to them the Prophet (s.a.w.s) discussed everything that needed to be said regarding aqeedah and any attempt to rationalize is a blameworthy bidah, this was refuted by Imam Al Ashari and other Ashari Muslims. So following their discourse is clear they condemn everything related to philosophy even if they themselves engage in it, if you apply their narrative you'll notice that also include blaming Ali Ibn Abi Talib (r.a) of bidah and even other Sahabis, this makes 99% of Muslims heretics now this is the root cause of wahhabism and salafism is this dangerous discourse being exported by Saudi books and that gross piece of trash kitab al tawheed of Ibn Abdul Wahhab Najdi.

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On 8/27/2017 at 6:21 AM, SunniBrother said:

Okay I am curious about Shia form of mysticism. We Sunnis have Sufism and Tariqas. What are the types of mysticism practiced by Shias and I would like a brief explanation about them and their practices.

Basic introduction of mysticism in Shia school of thought.

 

 

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