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Fall of Rome

This was a popular and also a cinematic theme in the 1960s. I remember a magazine cover with the question, "The Modern Romans" with a picture of crowds of people entering a stadium. Edward Gibbons' opus was popular and sometimes required reading.

One unpopular 2nd Century emperor was Commodus, son of Marcus Aurelius. Commodus was also a gladiator.

What brings this to mine is this story, http://www.gq.com/story/dwayne-johnson-for-president-cover , NOTE/WARNING, the article has a couple of bad words and inadequate attire in it, but the key sentence is in large, bold type down near the end. Just scroll down to there if you want to read it. But the key element is Johnson is thinking of a presidential run.

Jesse Ventura did the same, didn't he?

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@hasanhh I don't know anything about Dwayne Johnson's political stances, but he's better than Donald, better than Hilary. He's charismatic and has a leadership look if nothing else. 

But does he have any political experience? And what does he believe in? 

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#2 for the day

So on 10May17 l decided for a change to listen to Rush Limbaugh on the radio. l get tired of whiney, pinko-progressive radio recently.

Rush was commenting on the Stephen Colbert program for the 09th of May. Which l saw. Colbert comes out and announces that D-FBl Comey has just been fired. The audience cheers. Colbert was so taken aback he says, "Wow, Wow. There are a lot of Trump supporters ..."

You can find the Colbert clip and Rush's commentary in full at rushlimbaugh.com, 10 May program and then scroll down to Teachable Moment: Colbert Audience Cheers Comey Firing . lt has the video clip.

What Limbaugh focused on is the lack of awareness and lack of critical thinking skills by young people today. Limbaugh opined that these young people need media to tell them what to believe. Here: that Comey is "the bad guy" for allegedly costing A-dorable Hillar the 2016 General Election. That is who they are told to hate -according to Limbaugh.  BUT, as Limbaugh noted, Trump is the supposed real enemy and anything he does is "bad". But the pinko=progressive audience is confused because unless they are told something, these young people, as Limbaugh opined, "They do not know who to hate." because no one told them in a timely manner. The pinko-progressive audience had no "behavioral instructions" --according to Limbaugh.

What this illustrates about "Fall of Amerika":  a basic strength of a democracy, individual informed thinking, is collapsing after half a century of educational experiments and educational systems' avoiding reasonably-demanding-challenges and work from their charges.

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Just now, notme said:

@hasanhh I don't know anything about Dwayne Johnson's political stances, but he's better than Donald, better than Hilary. He's charismatic and has a leadership look if nothing else. 

But does he have any political experience? And what does he believe in? 

:dwarf: That makes my head ache. :fever:  "better than Donald" [about anyone is better than Hillar].

D.J. has no political experience and probably no nuanced,developed belief systems.

He is currently the highest paid actor --according to this GQ article.

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6 minutes ago, hasanhh said:

:dwarf: That makes my head ache. :fever:  "better than Donald" [about anyone is better than Hillar].

D.J. has no political experience and probably no nuanced,developed belief systems.

He is currently the highest paid actor --according to this GQ article.

Donald also lacks political experience, and lacks intelligence, charisma, and that certain leadership bearing. The only reason he was elected was because people are entrenched in the failed two party system, and the other party insisted on running Hilary in spite of popular opinion.

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Back to lndicators of lmpending "Fall'

Today, 17May17 l saw part of an amica curae case before the Ohio Supreme Court.

The plaintiff was arguing that the requirement to notify a potential sex partner that HIV is present "violates" both "free speech" and "equal protection rights".

"violates"

A couple of years back in Germany, a there-nationally known rock singer was arrested and charges with murder for not notifying her temporary partner.

:fever:  sick

This goes with what l wrote above about losing the fundamental sense of physical well being.

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On ‎5‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 6:02 AM, notme said:

Donald also lacks political experience, and lacks intelligence, charisma, and that certain leadership bearing. The only reason he was elected was because people are entrenched in the failed two party system, and the other party insisted on running Hilary in spite of popular opinion.

Another reason he got elected is God positioning his pieces on the checkboard for the final checkmate.

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On ‎5‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 9:02 AM, notme said:

Donald also lacks political experience, and lacks intelligence, charisma, and that certain leadership bearing. The only reason he was elected was because people are entrenched in the failed two party system, and the other party insisted on running Hilary in spite of popular opinion.

l was thinking yesterday, "the Donald's" two worst enemies are his own big mouth and his underdeveloped vocabulary.

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l was waiting until the transcript was posted, BUT Charlie Rose is no longer posting transcripts like we have quoted from/cited before. So there is no link or paragraph number.

On 18May17, Adm. Mike Mullen was a guest and he expressed "fall" worries. lf you want to sit through the entire video, it is at charlierose.com .

 

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Sen. Ben Sasse has a cultural book out entitled "The Vanishing American Adult: ..."

In a Charlie Rose interview, Friday 26May17, he said a few things but here are a few:

--18-24 year-old males spend 40% of their time playing video games

--the average person reads 19 minutes per day.

--by testing or other means, you cannot tell the emotional difference between a 10 year old to a 15 year old to a 25 year old, currently.

--there is an absence of cross-generational interaction.

--a significant percentage believe the 1st Amendment should be repealed because free speech might hurt someone's feelings.

Opine: now this last one reminds me of that 1990s Wall Street Journal OpEd saying that when political correctness came apart in the past, it did so violently.

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On 5/27/2017 at 1:36 AM, hasanhh said:

Sen. Ben Sasse has a cultural book out entitled "The Vanishing American Adult: ..."

In a Charlie Rose interview, Friday 26May17, he said a few things but here are a few:

--18-24 year-old males spend 40% of their time playing video games

--the average person reads 19 minutes per day.

--by testing or other means, you cannot tell the emotional difference between a 10 year old to a 15 year old to a 25 year old, currently.

--there is an absence of cross-generational interaction.

--a significant percentage believe the 1st Amendment should be repealed because free speech might hurt someone's feelings.

Opine: now this last one reminds me of that 1990s Wall Street Journal OpEd saying that when political correctness came apart in the past, it did so violently.

This is the moral degeneration of our society. Freedom is enslavement to materialism, capitalism and entertainment. The most enslaved people are those who falsely believe they are "free".  

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@Mohamed1993

"Freedom" as modernly understood began with Luther --individual responsibility for their belief system.

A mental liberation from totalitarianism of Church, Communists, Nazis, dogma et alii.

The positive function of materialism, in US history, has been a standard of privacy and "decent housing".

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I posted it before, ill post it again, 

the seeds of America’s demise were planted by the Jewish banking system which allows the privately owned Federal to create money out of nothing and then through fractional reserve banking lend out 10 to 30 times as much as was originally created. Think student loans, home loans, auto loans, ext. This will in due time create an unpayable debt and interest burden which is designed to transfer all wealth to the banks. It also creates a Depression just like the one the world is now entering. In the last Depression three million Americans died from starvation between 1929 and 1939 according to the Russian demographer Borisov. As I have said before, this current Depression should be called the Greatest Starvation because I believe 9 million Americans will die of starvation without a banking reform that only a political earthquake could bring about. 

When this Depression is over, the Rothschild Criminal Network will buy everything for pennies in the dollar with money they stole from us.

Then, an all out attack on Iran, to coincide with the collapse of the dollar. 

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This is SC. ShiaChat. Not SocialistCentral.  Socialists always blame some group. Kulaks-something never defined by Stalin, Jews a targetable minority, Muslims in the West, yada, yada, blab-ya.

Got a question for you @Bazzi_ and others. Add up all the "Rothschild monies" and where will it rank on the Forbes List ??????

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8 hours ago, hasanhh said:

This is SC. ShiaChat. Not SocialistCentral.  Socialists always blame some group. Kulaks-something never defined by Stalin, Jews a targetable minority, Muslims in the West, yada, yada, blab-ya.

Got a question for you @Bazzi_ and others. Add up all the "Rothschild monies" and where will it rank on the Forbes List ??????

You do realize people have the right to decline being on Forbes, Ghaddafi was worth a supposed 150 billion, not to mention all the Saudi oil sheiks. The rothschilds money is distributed among many family members so it can't be tracked. Albeit having their hands in many things, the Rothschild family themselves are puppets. Im not blaming some group, its the truth.

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11 hours ago, hasanhh said:

  Socialists always blame some group.  ...

Got a question for you @Bazzi_ and others. Add up all the "Rothschild monies" and where will it rank on the Forbes List ??????

 

2 hours ago, Bazzi_ said:

.... The rothschilds money is distributed among many family members so it can't be tracked.   Albeit having their hands in many things, the Rothschild family themselves are puppets. Im not blaming some group, its the truth.

lf it "can't be tracked", then how do you 'know' ?? ?? ??

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On 6/17/2017 at 6:15 AM, hasanhh said:

l wrote about gladiators above on this page.

Now read this:

http://theonion.tumblr.com/post/161905342329/wwe-staff-forced-to-shoot-aggressive-wrestler 

And then WWE blames Mommy.

Pfft, that's the Onion, it is not legit news; It's a joke.

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