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3 minutes ago, Kazemi said:

Indeed, a promise given,

That poems I delivered,

Was difficult,

To understand,

To imagine,

To comprehend,

To gasp,

Indeed, these are synonyms,

Yet, a task to look at it,

Oh you who believe,

Read my words,

So you can see what I see,

So you can know what I know,

So you can feel what I feel,

Seperate a poem from the other,

And the story has finished,

With an end unfinished,

Now look at the end of each line,

Indeed, a promise told.

part of me is suspicious you have never lived in the west lol

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1 minute ago, DigitalUmmah said:

part of me is suspicious you have never lived in the west lol

Deny my oppression,

Do I feel recognized?

Deny my struggle,

Do I feel normal?

Deny my words,

Do I feel heard?

Deny my place,

Do I feel wordly?

Didn't the Household (as) had the same problems?

Where dynasty conquered,

The promise corrupted,

After that another came,

With a promise told,

Like the previous,

But promise threw,

In the bath of fire.

You know what I mean?

The tribe of Uthman and descendants of Abbas,

Peace be upon the last one.

Try the other ones,

Poems await you,

Oh Voice of the Qur'an.

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Just now, Kazemi said:

Deny my oppression,

Do I feel recognized?

Deny my struggle,

Do I feel normal?

Deny my words,

Do I feel heard?

Deny my place,

Do I feel wordly?

Didn't the Household (as) had the same problems?

Where dynasty conquered,

The promise corrupted,

After that another came,

With a promise told,

Like the previous,

But promise threw,

In the bath of fire.

You know what I mean?

The tribe of Uthman and descendants of Abbas,

Peace be upon the last one.

Try the other ones,

Poems await you,

Oh Voice of the Qur'an.

be my guest in the UK if you can, it will open your eyes bruv. being a middle class person living in the UK is LEGIT. especially if you are male. especially if you are desi. especially if you are shia lol. this country is awesome

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10 minutes ago, DigitalUmmah said:

be my guest in the UK if you can, it will open your eyes bruv. being a middle class person living in the UK is LEGIT. especially if you are male. especially if you are desi. especially if you are shia lol. this country is awesome

hahahahah, i had the same view living in canada from 2004 to 2008. but when i came back and time changed, i didnt have the same view. Living in a conservative country can be better for people who are different.People who are different in their deen, in their manners, their simplicity, that makes one feel better.

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1 minute ago, DigitalUmmah said:

be my guest in the UK if you can, it will open your eyes bruv. being a middle class person living in the UK is LEGIT. especially if you are male. especially if you are desi. especially if you are shia lol. this country is awesome

By Allah,

The Eternal,

The Benevolent,

The Kind,

The Creator,

The Name,

The descendants,

Of a people they are,

Who spread mischief in the lands,

Indeed they exist,

And spread their beliefs,

To the people of their ground,

Their names counted,

Their deeds counted,

Yet, they continue,

They are called the Royal Britains,

Descended from an early gulf,

Of invaders we call,

The French,

Who gave the English her language,

A reform we call,

Who gave the English her pride,

A change we call,

Surely these are synonyms,

Only patience can tell.

Britains,

Among the dirty,

Among the wrong,

Among the impolite,

Indeed Allah,

Sent down Prophets,

But look at their result,

Indeed the Brittains,

Got wealth from trade,

Not of food,

But of humans.

Oh Voice of the Qur'an,

Repeat after me:

Those who love me, I love them,

Those who I love, I expect them to love me,

Those who rain mischief on their lands,

Their punishment is unbearable,

Those who descend from them,

Repeat their mistakes,

Their punishment is unbearable.

 

And Allah sent mankind down,

Only for the worship of Him,

 

And when you greet the people,

Repeat:

"This is Paradise, which you have been made to inherit for what you used to do."

 

 

 

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At the end of the day people will live and support in a place they actively choose to be in.

Both the West and the East have their individual advantages and their disadvantages based on what a person deems important. No place is perfect, but no place is completely evil either. (Despite what Fox News or PressTV might say). 

You're not going to Hell because you live in the West and you're certainly not guaranteed Paradise because you live in a Muslim country.

To each their own as long as they end up where they are the happiest.

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For the most part, I have no complaints about living in the West. It does get lonely at times and at least where I am there isn't much of a community, and most of the "friendships" I developed have been very superficial. It doesn't go much beyond hi, hello, the occasional coffee or dinner, but no real substance to the conversations. But a lot of shias don't have this complaint, so who knows it could be my fault.

What I absolutely abhor is the fact that if you live in America and even Britain or Canada really, is that you live in a country where your tax dollars go toward funding atrocities against fellow muslims and shias everywhere. Whilst we do speak out against these crimes, it feels very hypocritical to do whilst you feed the very system that is involved in committing them. Some can put it down to well every country defends it interests, its no different in this case, though I think ultimately it does take a toll on your conscious the more you update yourself with what's going on. Doesn't feel very nice to know that whilst I lead a comfortable life, people equally deserving of the same chance somewhere abroad can't, and I'm partly responsible for it. That said though, I make the choice to live here, so I can't really blame the governments for pinning me down, as much as I criticize their foreign policy.

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7 hours ago, Mansur Bakhtiari said:

Salam alaikom

I have been thinking about getting degrees in politics, religion inshallah in the future, along with hawza education online. However, I am in high school, and I know I do NOT want to send my kids here. So what Muslim countries, which speak Arabic or a Persian-related language, can I reasonably move too? I am considering Iran, Tajikistan, Oman, Iraq or Lebanon at the moment.

If you are going to go to Oman from Canada they may question why you may wish to leave Canada but currently are rather sympathetic to Muslims who wish to leave the United States requesting to come to a Muslim land permanently and the more so if you have desirable local employment useful skills.

  If you think of it I personally strongly recommend Ruwi in the what I would call metropolitan area and with plenty of public buses.  A really nice town.

              ي س

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3 hours ago, DigitalUmmah said:

guys lets be honest with ourselves, despite their many faults, nothing beats living a middle class life somewhere in a western country

Times are a-changing sire. This is set to change in a big way. You better keep some options at hand. 

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1 hour ago, Mohamed1993 said:

For the most part, I have no complaints about living in the West. It does get lonely at times and at least where I am there isn't much of a community, and most of the "friendships" I developed have been very superficial. It doesn't go much beyond hi, hello, the occasional coffee or dinner, but no real substance to the conversations. But a lot of shias don't have this complaint, so who knows it could be my fault.

What I absolutely abhor is the fact that if you live in America and even Britain or Canada really, is that you live in a country where your tax dollars go toward funding atrocities against fellow muslims and shias everywhere. Whilst we do speak out against these crimes, it feels very hypocritical to do whilst you feed the very system that is involved in committing them. Some can put it down to well every country defends it interests, its no different in this case, though I think ultimately it does take a toll on your conscious the more you update yourself with what's going on. Doesn't feel very nice to know that whilst I lead a comfortable life, people equally deserving of the same chance somewhere abroad can't, and I'm partly responsible for it. That said though, I make the choice to live here, so I can't really blame the governments for pinning me down, as much as I criticize their foreign policy.

Yes, that's also what I hate. That is why I would avoid Turkey or the UAE

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4 hours ago, Akbar673 said:

I think that's pretty much the differentiation between the opinions that someone might hold towards the West. The ones that were born in the West (such as yourself and myself for example) tend to have a much more different opinion towards the West. Immigrants (or those not living in the West) naturally will not have that opinion because they will have a loyalty to where they immigrated from.

You can use religion, culture or anything else to denigrate the West if you want to find the faults in it but ultimately its just what your personal opinion is. 

Also, many people that have never visited or lived in the West speak negatively without knowing what they're talking about. 

To each their own ultimately.

Bismehe Ta3ala,

Assalam Alikum 

Not true.  I am not an immigrant.  I was also born and raised in the west and lived most of my life in that region.  I got my BA and was working on my master's and then called it quits.  I paid taxes and was a law abiding citizen.  I always made my intention that my taxes that I paid were for school, road work, public libraries, and whatever good that my tax money would go towards.

I came to a certain point, that even though my intentions were towards the good of society, I knew indirectly I'm still contributing to war escapades especially the killing of thousands upon thousands of muslims.  It is one thing to say you beleive in something and then it is another to act on that belief.  

The July 2006 in Lebanon war was my wake up call I needed.  The Qana massacre that occured the second time around was not done by accident but was delibrate and intentional.  It was a clear message that you are nothing but a number and no one in the world cares who you are, they won't know your name, they won't put a human face to this massacre.  You are irrelevant and will be forgotten.

Sometimes DU you perplex me by believing that UK cares for your wellbeing especially as a Shia Pakistani.  Funny thing is you call yourself as a Briton but, UK society or MI5 sees you as a Pakistani.  

Akbar, I faced bullying, discrimination, we were targets of pranks.  Alhamd'Allah all these incidents wanted me to hold tight to my religion.  My hijab was my pride, my salat was my identity, my seyam (fasting) was my strength.

I had to make a choice.  Years of listening to majalis of how Hurr was in a difficult position to choose between good vs evil.  Between the gov't he was fighting for or the opposition in this case Imam Hussain.  To go to what is comfortable and popular or go through difficulties and be among the minority.

Alhamd'Allah my conscious is clear.  People trouble themselves for years to emigrate and leave their country hoping for a better lifestyle, only ending up being more depressed and in regret after they loose their children and suffer silently in loneliness.  There is another side to the awful "American Dream" illusion.  Then ask was it worth all the money, time, and work you put into to live in a facade.

This temporary world is only a travelling trip.  It will end and only God knows where we will die and what land we will be buried.  I just hope our souls will meet up in wadi as salam, next to our beloved amir almo2mineen Imam Ali 3la salam.  

M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah 

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9 minutes ago, Laayla said:

Bismehe Ta3ala,

Assalam Alikum 

Not true.  I am not an immigrant.  I was also born and raised in the west and lived most of my life in that region.  I got my BA and was working on my master's and then called it quits.  I paid taxes and was a law abiding citizen.  I always made my intention that my taxes that I paid were for school, road work, public libraries, and whatever good that my tax money would go towards.

I came to a certain point, that even though my intentions were towards the good of society, I knew indirectly I'm still contributing to war escapades especially the killing of thousands upon thousands of muslims.  It is one thing to say you beleive in something and then it is another to act on that belief.  

The July 2006 in Lebanon war was my wake up call I needed.  The Qana massacre that occured the second time around was not done by accident but was delibrate and intentional.  It was a clear message that you are nothing but a number and no one in the world cares who you are, they won't know your name, they won't put a human face to this massacre.  You are irrelevant and will be forgotten.

Sometimes DU you perplex me by believing that UK cares for your wellbeing especially as a Shia Pakistani.  Funny thing is you call yourself as a Briton but, UK society or MI5 sees you as a Pakistani.  

Akbar, I faced bullying, discrimination, we were targets of pranks.  Alhamd'Allah all these incidents wanted me to hold tight to my religion.  My hijab was my pride, my salat was my identity, my seyam (fasting) was my strength.

I had to make a choice.  Years of listening to majalis of how Hurr was in a difficult position to choose between good vs evil.  Between the gov't he was fighting for or the opposition in this case Imam Hussain.  To go to what is comfortable and popular or go through difficulties and be among the minority.

Alhamd'Allah my conscious is clear.  People trouble themselves for years to emigrate and leave their country hoping for a better lifestyle, only ending up being more depressed and in regret after they loose their children and suffer silently in loneliness.  There is another side to the awful "American Dream" illusion.  Then ask was it worth all the money, time, and work you put into to live in a facade.

This temporary world is only a travelling trip.  It will end and only God knows where we will die and what land we will be buried.  I just hope our souls will meet up in wadi as salam, next to our beloved amir almo2mineen Imam Ali 3la salam.  

M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah 

Behold!

This is a sign of my poems,

About our treatment by the natives,

About our love for the faith,

Surely, no one solved my puzzle,

As only patience will gather it together,

Like a butterfly evolved,

No piece will be left astray.

Edited by Kazemi
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10 hours ago, DigitalUmmah said:

law, safety from sectarianism, socialism and a (generally) tolerant society. plus there's a reason everyone is desperate to live in a western country innit? dont you live in australia? would you ever choose to live in Iraq?

Guess you don't know Oman, where there is no Shi'a or Sunni or Ibadi Mosque only and any form of sectarianism or intolerance is banned and punishable.

Guess you don't know Oman where the living standards are very high, free healthcare, good wages, and generally a good life exactly the same as a Western country.

No I wouldn't move to Iraq, but I would move to Oman or Kuwait.

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15 hours ago, E.L King said:

Guess you don't know Oman, where there is no Shi'a or Sunni or Ibadi Mosque only and any form of sectarianism or intolerance is banned and punishable.

Guess you don't know Oman where the living standards are very high, free healthcare, good wages, and generally a good life exactly the same as a Western country.

No I wouldn't move to Iraq, but I would move to Oman or Kuwait.

You are in Oman? Sounds like where I should be!

Where I can sit down in a mosque beside a Zaidi, Hanafi and an Ibadi, then after prayer discuss Islam, without worry of being killed by the guy beside me.

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7 hours ago, Mansur Bakhtiari said:

You are in Oman? Sounds like where I should be!

Where I can sit down in a mosque beside a Zaidi, Hanafi and an Ibadi, then after prayer discuss Islam, without worry of being killed by the guy beside me.

I'm not in Oman, I know of people in Oman. Kuwait is also a little bit similar but not as good because the last few years Wahabism has gotten strong in Kuwait but its still good to live there.

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10 hours ago, E.L King said:

I'm not in Oman, I know of people in Oman. Kuwait is also a little bit similar but not as good because the last few years Wahabism has gotten strong in Kuwait but its still good to live there.

I've done some more research. I think Oman is my best option. Close to my family in Iran, good economy, and plenty of English speaking jobs while I refine my Arabic.

Or find a farsi job in Iran. The problem is Iran has pollution (especially in Khuzestan) and the economy is not as good. Plus I still need to do military service. I guessential that'she not too bad, but I want to get a high-level education Inshallah so that could be a problem.

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11 hours ago, Mansur Bakhtiari said:

I've done some more research. I think Oman is my best option. Close to my family in Iran, good economy, and plenty of English speaking jobs while I refine my Arabic.

Or find a farsi job in Iran. The problem is Iran has pollution (especially in Khuzestan) and the economy is not as good. Plus I still need to do military service. I guessential that'she not too bad, but I want to get a high-level education Inshallah so that could be a problem.

Are you Iranian brother? 

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10 hours ago, Mohamed1993 said:

Ah, ok, so you don't want to move back? 

I've never been to Iran. Just have Iranian parents. He problem is because I want to become an Islamic scholar, I don't feel like I would serve much of a purpose in Iran. I would definetely serve one here, but since this country is immoral and oppressive, I want to go to a Muslim country where I would serve a purpose. Oman has an Iranian and Shia community so I could probably serve a purpose to the expatriates there.

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