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1 hour ago, Chewing Gum said:

Why human is the only creature who refuses to be what he is ?

So basically, if you were truly satisfied with something, its unlikely that you would be motivated to do more?

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4 hours ago, myouvial said:

You did not reply any, so you cannot ask any question. haha

 Hehhhhehe:]

Operson? His does silence communicatesplz somebody ask some silly bit simple question so that I could answer it plzzz 

And no maths or physics plz I have these 2 subjects badly:¢

1 hour ago, Chewing Gum said:

Why human is the only creature who refuses to be what he is ?

This one seems a bit simple and interesting

Because human has brain 

Ur question reminds me of a dialogue of a Bollywood movie assumingvthat u understand Hindi

 Hum WO ni hotey Jo hum dikhatey- Hai Lekin hum WO hotey hai Jo hum chupatey hai 

See I believe that a man has emotions and attraction is one of the strongest emotions

A human brain gets attracted towards some thing which amazes him and he likes what amazes him and Tries to get in himself what he gets attracted to

   Another reason if we see its our desires Which tend to make us become what we are not 

Like actors they fake not only to world but themselves too 

 Until a man finds self satisfaction

Until and unless he is satisfuecwith himself he will try to gt happiness from outside by getting into things which he feels would satisfy him or make him happy

Its all game of mind I guess

   Well I guess I answered the question quite well 

Now finally my turn yeahhhh 

What dies silence tells a person? His does silence communicates with us? What's the language of silence ? 

 

 

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58 minutes ago, Pearl3112 said:

 

Ur question reminds me of a dialogue of a Bollywood movie assumingvthat u understand Hindi

 Hum WO ni hotey Jo hum dikhatey- Hai Lekin hum WO hotey hai Jo hum chupatey hai 

insaan ka chehra bhi bari ajeeb cheez hai . Ye bilkul piyaz ki manind hota hai . Ess ko cheelay chalay jao . Jab tamam paratain (layers) cheel chukain gay tab ja kar asli chehra dikhnay ko milay ga

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9 minutes ago, Chewing Gum said:

insaan ka chehra bhi bari ajeeb cheez hai . Ye bilkul piyaz ki manind hota hai . Ess ko cheelay chalay jao . Jab tamam paratain (layers) cheel chukain gay tab ja kar asli chehra dikhnay ko milay ga

you should go with scallions so you don't have to take of layers too see what's inside. 

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12 minutes ago, Ron_Burgundy said:

you should go with scallions so you don't have to take of layers too see what's inside. 

That is very astute of you august brother but as per the prevailing hamartia ; humans have been wearing a mask for so long that they have forgotten who they were beneath it . 

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7 minutes ago, Chewing Gum said:

That is very astute of you august brother but as per the prevailing hamartia ; humans have been wearing a mask for so long that they have forgotten who they were beneath it . 

this is so dramatic. 

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@starlight 

I don't have a problem with understanding the theory of infinity, but the full extent of its relationship with the zero as it's taught in modern mathematics.

I trust the experts and accept their answer, so any number divided by zero is infinity or undefined. I'm not being a contrarian, but I think it's not an absolute answer. A different conception or theoretical basis could well bring up a different result. It seems the theory has been adopted to help experts formulate other, related theories better. 

Eg a simple search brings up this:

In order to work with infinity, you must first define it. You may think you know what infinity is, but really you don't have a concrete definition. In fact, there are many different definitions of infinity that you could use, each of which result in different behaviors. For example, the real projective line has a concept of infinity such that 1/∞=0, while when talking about infinite sets one uses cardinal numbers (another type of infinity) to represent the sizes of these sets. You must make it clear what infinity you are talking about in order to work with it.

http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/28940/why-is-infinity-multiplied-by-zero-not-an-easy-zero-answer

Thank you for taking the time to break it down for us. If one high school example doesn't quite explain it, the other does!

 

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8 hours ago, repenter said:

You mean his answer was:

impossibru-meme.png

 

He is a doctor thou. I learn a lot from him.

About reversibility, he says "that liquefying coal into a liquid fuel and solid carbon is a irreversible process.'

My question : In term of irreversibility, human can not go back to the world again once he is judged in the hereafter/akhira. What is other occurance which prove of reversibility ? Is it when old age would become like a child again ?

Hahaha, he is handsome than above picture, with beards.

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8 hours ago, starlight said:

@Marbles @all the rest of you who apparently suck at maths.

Here is a simple explanation. 

Imagine you have a round cake. Imagine you divide it by 2. Each half would be ½ the size of the whole. Imagine you divide it by 10, each part would be 1/10th of the size of the whole.

What this means is, whatever number you divide something by, the “bits” will all be the size each slice will be cut into.

If you divide something by 2, you will fit 2 pieces together to make the whole. If you divide by 10, you will fit 10 pieces together to make the whole.

Now imagine you divided the cake, so each “slice” was exactly 0 in width. You would need to fit infinity slices together to make the whole.

This is why dividing by zero is always infinity

Or dividing by zero is impossible, since there is no such cake with 0 in width.

My next question:

Can you divide the cake entirely similar each of them, wide, weight, volume, without any error of deviation ?

What is the measure to prove the cake division is  similar/just ?

Can human (or even Nabi Muhammad SAW or Imam a.s. themselves) do justice/adil 100% guaranteed ?

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17 minutes ago, myouvial said:

Can you divide the cake entirely similar each of them, wide, weight, volume, without any error of deviation ?

No, my slice would always be bigger.:rolleyes:

19 minutes ago, myouvial said:

What is the measure to prove the cake division is  similar/just ?

 

Equality/similarity is not always the same as justice.

20 minutes ago, myouvial said:

Can human (or even Nabi Muhammad SAW or Imam a.s. themselves) do justice/adil 100% guaranteed ?

Not doing justice is zulm actually and Prophet (saw) and Imams are  Masoom,so yes.

 

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15 minutes ago, starlight said:

No, my slice would always be bigger.:rolleyes:

Equality/similarity is not always the same as justice.

Not doing justice is zulm actually and Prophet (saw) and Imams are  Masoom,so yes.

 

Are you a martial artist or other artist ? or politician who do not answer direct to the point

or are you a cook who collect, mix, cook the ingredient,

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23 hours ago, Marbles said:

Infinity is essentially undefined or unknown. I don't know whether it can be called an irrational number. I doubt it.

Infinity is where a wife's mind is. Undefined, lrrational, and you never get it.

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On 01/02/2017 at 6:45 PM, starlight said:

Look

12÷3=4

When we divide by 3 what we are essentially asking is that how many times 3 can go in a number? The answer here is 4.

Similarly,  how many times can 6 go in a number(12)

12 ÷6=2 The answer is 2. 

Now how many times can zero go in a number(12)? The answer is infinite times.

A. 12 / (0+0+0.....+0..) = 0

B. 12 / (0+0+0.....+0..) = ∞

For me that's where the problem is. Two of the same strings giving 2 different answers, one completely nothing and the other incompletely the entire cake where it's entirety is unknown.

Is it fair to say A) adopts the non-fictional approach by actually working on arithmetic values for real numeric possibilities (where 0 is emblematically the absence of a number) and B) employing a more philosophically inclined form of mathematical science based on practicable concepts and not actual numerical values?

For example (B), the idea of infinity itself is not absolute, nor a number and in it's boundless value it is not only unknown but immeasurably unwholesome. Therefore, is it fair to conclude B) employing a multitude of 0's is a wishfully representative concept contrary to a real definitive outcome? For instance, in 12 hotel rooms how many non-persons can you accommodate? Principally, the answer is none (0) because you don't have any to begin with (true arithmetic value). But, theoretically (absent of calculated experience) we could defy logic with a conceivable notion where nothing (absent of value) is considered a unit of something. Due to it's boundless nothingness, can we then really add a boundary to assign arithmetic operations by reapplying nothing with nothing?

Much like quantum mechanics which confirms for nothing to create something, we would have to first employ laws where nothing can be seen to produce something (adding boundaries or restrictions). How modern day science fuelled mathematicians adopt these new laws is something beyond me. But one thing is clear if you add limitations (law) to nothing, it no longer resembles the valueless 0 and it's reinstatement with something wilfully defined (in practicable formulas) remain exclusive and not universal.

Some mathematicians agree, some disagree, the ones sitting on the fence are just pulling their hair wondering if 0 is infinite in itself.

for me:

0 + 0 = what?
0 - 0 = when?
0 / 0 = why?
0 x 0 = how?

Not long ago I queried the same thoughts with my calculator. The result:

Funny_Pictures_8916.jpg

Edited by saas

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20 hours ago, myouvial said:

Can human (or even Nabi Muhammad SAW or Imam a.s. themselves) do justice/adil 100% guaranteed ?

Prophet Musa [as] accidently killed a man, Yunus [as] wrongly left his people when he ought to have stayed , it was not a sin, but the better option was to stay. Musa [as] ought to have remained silent and obeyed Khidr and not question him [it can be argued but i'm unsure].

Can a Prophet of God, or an Imam [asws] choose a less virtuous option [not a sin] when they have the ability to have chosen a more virtuous option?

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13 minutes ago, uponthesunnah said:

Prophet Musa [as] accidently killed a man, Yunus [as] wrongly left his people when he ought to have stayed , it was not a sin, but the better option was to stay. Musa [as] ought to have remained silent and obeyed Khidr and not question him [it can be argued but i'm unsure].

Can a Prophet of God, or an Imam [asws] choose a less virtuous option [not a sin] when they have the ability to have chosen a more virtuous option?

A Prophet (pbuh) who does not err, sin or wander. Does not speak out of his own desire and is equal to revelation as a revelation revealed. Whether it appears to us as less virtuous or more, I believe it's all in the grand design of the Divine. What may appear as less virtuous does not override the greater virtuosity of intent. In the example of Musa (as) and Khidr, there is the issue of appointment of knowledge. Besides the Word (Book), revelation is not entirely a medium accredited to Jibrael alone as Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì is unrestrained in employing various means in which knowledge/wisdom is delivered. Khidr being one of those vessels. For us these are exemplary traditions which serve as reminders that even the chosen sincere servants are not equal to the knowledge of God and are at all times dependent on their Lord. 

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4 hours ago, uponthesunnah said:

Prophet Musa [as] accidently killed a man, Yunus [as] wrongly left his people when he ought to have stayed , it was not a sin, but the better option was to stay. Musa [as] ought to have remained silent and obeyed Khidr and not question him [it can be argued but i'm unsure].

Can a Prophet of God, or an Imam [asws] choose a less virtuous option [not a sin] when they have the ability to have chosen a more virtuous option?

Yes, they (a Prophet of God or an Imam [asws]) can choose a less virtuous option, but i believe they never did choosing a less virtuous option.

My question:

While a Muslim always refers to the example (e.g. Sunnah) of the Prophet of God and an Imam [asws] about the standard reference of virtuosity, how do Muslim judge a Prophet of God, or an Imam [asws]'s action as more or less virtuous option ? 

(I need some more elaboration lesson).

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On 2/2/2017 at 1:48 AM, Ron_Burgundy said:

My question;

 

How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are?

Answer: When our consciouness do not know what is the meaning of 'old' (or age?).

My question :

How old would you be when you realize that old (or age) is nothing when you never acquire lessons in your life ?

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On 2/2/2017 at 2:29 AM, Pearl3112 said:

 Hehhhhehe:]

Operson? His does silence communicatesplz somebody ask some silly bit simple question so that I could answer it plzzz 

And no maths or physics plz I have these 2 subjects badly:¢

This one seems a bit simple and interesting

Because human has brain 

Ur question reminds me of a dialogue of a Bollywood movie assumingvthat u understand Hindi

 Hum WO ni hotey Jo hum dikhatey- Hai Lekin hum WO hotey hai Jo hum chupatey hai 

See I believe that a man has emotions and attraction is one of the strongest emotions

A human brain gets attracted towards some thing which amazes him and he likes what amazes him and Tries to get in himself what he gets attracted to

   Another reason if we see its our desires Which tend to make us become what we are not 

Like actors they fake not only to world but themselves too 

 Until a man finds self satisfaction

Until and unless he is satisfuecwith himself he will try to gt happiness from outside by getting into things which he feels would satisfy him or make him happy

Its all game of mind I guess

   Well I guess I answered the question quite well 

Now finally my turn yeahhhh 

What dies silence tells a person? His does silence communicates with us? What's the language of silence ? 

 

 

My answer :

There is no information come to our mind, soul, heart.

My question :

When do human practice/do real/haqiqat silence ? (Is it when ones death, sleep, rest or ...?)

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^ Just wondered. I have a relative who has a friend who travels to Europe and he always buys salmiakki for my relative. It's kind of a joke between them. 

1 hour ago, repenter said:

Porque?

Why? :D This reminds me of something funny with my husband. I asked him if he would like a cookie and he said no. Then when he saw the cookies he changed his mind. I said,  You didn't want one and now you do? He said I thought you meant pork. خوک  :rolleyes:

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