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Explain the "ontological Argument" to a child

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Salam, Ya Ali (as) Madad, Lanat upon the enemies of the Ahlulbayt (as)

Aliun Wali Allah Wajib

BAR MUQASSIRREEN LANAT

the ontological argument is as follows:

the argument that God, being defined as most great or perfect, must exist, since a God who exists is greater than a God who does not.

relevant wiki page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontological_argument

I do not understand the bit in red, why is it a proof against an atheist? please can someone explain to me in simple terms why this is a good argument re: the existence of God?

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1 hour ago, DigitalUmmah said:

Salam, Ya Ali (as) Madad, Lanat upon the enemies of the Ahlulbayt (as)

Aliun Wali Allah Wajib

BAR MUQASSIRREEN LANAT

the ontological argument is as follows:

the argument that God, being defined as most great or perfect, must exist, since a God who exists is greater than a God who does not.

relevant wiki page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontological_argument

I do not understand the bit in red, why is it a proof against an atheist? please can someone explain to me in simple terms why this is a good argument re: the existence of God?

my feeble attempt:

If you need a computer, then having a computer is better than not having a computer.

If you are hungry, having food is better than not having food.

In math, if God exists = 1 and God not existing = 0, then 1 > 0 always

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The argument states that if something exists then it is greater than non-existence, it does not prove that God exists.

 

Edited by Ozzy
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24 minutes ago, Ozzy said:

The argument states that if something exists then it is greater than non-existence, it does not prove that God exists.

 

Nailed it. It's a flawed argument. 

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2 hours ago, DigitalUmmah said:

Salam, Ya Ali (as) Madad, Lanat upon the enemies of the Ahlulbayt (as)

Aliun Wali Allah Wajib

BAR MUQASSIRREEN LANAT

the ontological argument is as follows:

the argument that God, being defined as most great or perfect, must exist, since a God who exists is greater than a God who does not.

relevant wiki page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontological_argument

I do not understand the bit in red, why is it a proof against an atheist? please can someone explain to me in simple terms why this is a good argument re: the existence of God?

http://en.wikishia.net/view/Ontological_Arguments

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I don't think it's a good argument to use in a debate.

Edited by Hassan Y

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