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People often try to say it is rational to believe or irrational to believe. Here is the test for all students who are studying the Islamic theology & Mantiq. I am quoting here a statement, which is the foundation of our faith, can anyone effort to prove this statement rational or irrational? The statement is

LA ILAHA ILLALLAH (There is no god, but Allah)

Test what is your FAITH, rational or irrational? test the statement mentioned above by applying principles of logic on it.

 

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Salam

Spiritual, you can prove it my simply knowing you yourself can only exist with perception. And that your true self can only exist with absolute perception. That perception to be absolute must be absolutely perfect.

It is a strange proof, but it's completely rational. To say we can exist without perception is to deny what we all know about ourselves, we are minds that experience ourselves. However we know we don't truly know ourselves fully or others or have that exact measurement or score of who we are, but there is an exact value to who we are, a true self to who we are. The perception that knows who we are, knows what we ought to be. And to know what we ought to be, it has to know the straight path and our potential. And to know our potential, it must know it's endless path. And the only one knows the endless path without end, is the absolute being.

 

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25 minutes ago, .InshAllah. said:

Multiple lines of evidence from different types of arguments point to a creator.  Rationally we shouldnt multiply entities beyond necessity, so we arrive at one creator rather than many.

 

https://godandphilosophy.wordpress.com/

Brother, surprise to see there is not a single argument from Muslims in your referred web page!

Beyond necessity?? Please elaborate.

We understand that knowldge & power are prerequisites for the origin of systems like universe & life. And from here we argue the existence of Supreme being i.e., Supreme in knowledge & power.

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1 hour ago, LinkZelda said:

Salam

Spiritual, you can prove it my simply knowing you yourself can only exist with perception. And that your true self can only exist with absolute perception. That perception to be absolute must be absolutely perfect.

It is a strange proof, but it's completely rational. To say we can exist without perception is to deny what we all know about ourselves, we are minds that experience ourselves. However we know we don't truly know ourselves fully or others or have that exact measurement or score of who we are, but there is an exact value to who we are, a true self to who we are. The perception that knows who we are, knows what we ought to be. And to know what we ought to be, it has to know the straight path and our potential. And to know our potential, it must know it's endless path. And the only one knows the endless path without end, is the absolute being.

 

The one who recognizes his self, recognizes Allah. This is the source of your argument.

So yes, indeed, ourself is a way which can leads us to Creator. 

But the stage of giving above mentioned declaration i.e., LA ILAHA ILLALLAH comes afterwards. Means after recognizing self.

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"Allah bears witness that there is no god but He, and (so do) the angels and those possessed knowledge, maintaining His creation with justice; there is no god but He, the Mighty, the Wise." (3:18)

 

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15 minutes ago, Sayed Hassan Y. said:

 

God is Reality (Al Haqq). There is nothing outside of Reality and there is only Reality (There is no God but God). 

Yes, I think we have answered this before too, when it was asked "Alasto be-Rabbekum"?

 

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Salam

I find the only way to avoid Islam and rational faith, is to follow desires, and not listen to reason.  The more you rationalize things and break it down to logical propositions that are linked together, you will realize God and Islam is the truth. And the Quran states the propositions needed to ponder about.

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51 minutes ago, LinkZelda said:

The more you rationalize things and break it down to logical propositions that are linked together, you will realize God and Islam is the truth. And the Quran states the propositions needed to ponder about.

I m in full agreement with you here, brother. 

Very well said. Appreciate

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