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Aslam-O-Alaykum . 

Usually I am not skeptical about Ahadith but this time I am not being able to accept reports existing in both Sunni and Shia corpus regarding the occurrence of Earthquakes. There is a viral hadith from Ayesha that earthquakes occur when there is too much fornication and obscenity . I was curious about the stance of shia corpus germane to this matter. Eventually I was able to locate following hadith on this matter :

Ja‟far ibn Ali ibn al-Hassan al-Kufy - may God be pleased with him - narrated that his grandfather ibn Ali ibn Abdullah ibn al-Muqayrih al-Kufy narrated that his grandfather Al-Hassan ibn Ali ibn Abdullah ibn al-Muqayrih quoted Ali ibn Hisan, on the authority of his uncle Abdul Rahman ibn Kasir al-Hashemi that Aba Abdullah as-Sadiq (MGB) said, “When there is a lot of adultery, there will be earthquakes. When a lot of people do not pay the alms-tax, quadrupeds will die. When the judges issue unjust decrees, there will be no rain. When the safety of the unbelievers who are under the protection of Islam is denied, unbelievers will defeat the Muslims.”

Source: Al-Khisal, Pg. 242


Therefore , I conclude that Sunni and Shia share the same position on this issue. Now there are some points in my mind which I would like to put forward. First and foremost if adultery , fornication etc are the harbinger of earthquakes then why are there moon-quakes ? I guess there is no one on moon who can carry out any of the aforementioned dastardly act.  Secondly if earthquakes are punishment or a sign of warning from God then west would have been annihilated utterly since there is pornography , homosexuality, rapes etc in large percentage and there would have been droughts in Pakistan as the conditions of courts is lamentable. Thirdly, is it a piece of cake to circumvent or evade God's punishment ? The frequency and magnitude of earthquakes in Japan are quite higher than that of Pakistan even then earthquakes cause more casualties in Pakistan as compared to Japan? The casualties in Japan are less. Why ? It is because buildings are  meticulously constructed and designed in Japan unlike Pakistan. So the applications of Engineering are enough to minimize God's Punishment? Fourthly ,those who die in earthquakes,  ?are all of them sinners,fornicators , wicked ?  are there no innocent children , men and women who die in earthquakes? That's all.   

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1 hour ago, Chewing Gum said:

Aslam-O-Alaykum . 

Usually I am not skeptical about Ahadith but this time I am not being able to accept reports existing in both Sunni and Shia corpus regarding the occurrence of Earthquakes. There is a viral hadith from Ayesha that earthquakes occur when there is too much fornication and obscenity . I was curious about the stance of shia corpus germane to this matter.

The first thing to do before worrying about whether you need to accept it or not, is to see whether there are any narrations considered authentic that say this. Hopefully someone will comment on that issue with regards to the Shia version of the narration that you have quoted.

 

1 hour ago, Chewing Gum said:

Eventually I was able to locate following hadith on this matter :

Ja‟far ibn Ali ibn al-Hassan al-Kufy - may God be pleased with him - narrated that his grandfather ibn Ali ibn Abdullah ibn al-Muqayrih al-Kufy narrated that his grandfather Al-Hassan ibn Ali ibn Abdullah ibn al-Muqayrih quoted Ali ibn Hisan, on the authority of his uncle Abdul Rahman ibn Kasir al-Hashemi that Aba Abdullah as-Sadiq (MGB) said, “When there is a lot of adultery, there will be earthquakes. When a lot of people do not pay the alms-tax, quadrupeds will die. When the judges issue unjust decrees, there will be no rain. When the safety of the unbelievers who are under the protection of Islam is denied, unbelievers will defeat the Muslims.”

Source: Al-Khisal, Pg. 242

 

1 hour ago, Chewing Gum said:


Therefore , I conclude that Sunni and Shia share the same position on this issue. Now there are some points in my mind which I would like to put forward. First and foremost if adultery , fornication etc are the harbinger of earthquakes then why are there moon-quakes ? I guess there is no one on moon who can carry out any of the aforementioned dastardly act.

Regardless of the merits of the hadith, this is faulty logic, since the narration doesn't say that adultary is a necessary requirement for earthquakes, merely that it is (apparently) sufficient.

 

1 hour ago, Chewing Gum said:

 Secondly if earthquakes are punishment or a sign of warning from God then west would have been annihilated utterly since there is pornography , homosexuality, rapes etc in large percentage and there would have been droughts in Pakistan as the conditions of courts is lamentable. Thirdly, is it a piece of cake to circumvent or evade God's punishment ? The frequency and magnitude of earthquakes in Japan are quite higher than that of Pakistan even then earthquakes cause more casualties in Pakistan as compared to Japan? The casualties in Japan are less. Why ? It is because buildings are  meticulously constructed and designed in Japan unlike Pakistan. So the applications of Engineering are enough to minimize God's Punishment?

These would seem to be more valid reasons for doubting the validity of the hadith, although we shouldn't be too quick to reject it, and see if there is a way of understanding it that would make some sense. This often requires thinking outside the box.

 

1 hour ago, Chewing Gum said:

Fourthly ,those who die in earthquakes,  ?are all of them sinners,fornicators , wicked ?  are there no innocent children , men and women who die in earthquakes? That's all.   

If an innocent person dies in a natural disaster, and hence goes to heaven, is it a tragedy for that person?

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Salam,

I noticed that this hadith is composed ina kind of poetic way and believe that the meaning of it is to warn for and  to abstain from the prohibited things. Not because eathquakes will take place because of them but just because they are no good.

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There is possibility of indirect cause of earthquake from immorality like social domino effect. How? Perhaps sexual immoralities bring broken families and diseases, then cause economical break downs in countries. Countries would try to invade other countries for more resources to steal. Nuclear arms race would get worsen. With so many underground nuclear testings,,, we get earthquakes. 

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