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The confusion happened after every imam died as it was recorded by a 3rd century shia scholar al-Hasan bin Musa al-Nawbakhti in his book Firaq al-Shia. It all started after Ali’s a.s death and it is repeated every time an imam passed away. When the 11th imam died, his followers were divided into 14 different groups, each one has their own unique opinions.

Here are some examples of perplexion/confusion.

1. Ali a.s is Mahdi

“….Ali was not killed and he did not die. They said that he would not die until he has driven the Arabs with his cane and filled the earth with justice and fairness after it has been filled with oppression and injustice. This was the first sect in Islam which believed in waqf (imamate ended with Ali as hidden imam) after Rasulullah. They are also the first extremists. They are called Saba’iyyah, the follower of Abdullah bin Saba’ who publicly criticised Abu Bakar, Umar…“

“…some scholars who were close to Ali (AS) said that Abdullah bin Saba’ was a Jew before he converted to Islam…”

“….he (Abdullah bin Saba’) was the first to declare that the imamate of Ali (AS) was mandatory…”

[The first people who hated Abu Bakar & Umar (ra) were the followers of Abdullah bin Saba]

2. Muhammad bin al Hanafiyya is Mahdi

“….they said al Hasan bin Ali went to war against Mu’awiyah with the permission of Muhammad and made treaty also with his permission. al Husein also, they said, fought Yazid with his permission, if not, both of them (al Hasan & al Husein) will be astray and ruined…”

[Hasan & Husein are followers of the true imam, Muhammad al-Hanafiyah]

3. Abdullah bin Muhammad bin al Hanafiyya (Abu Hashim) is Mahdi

“….he is called Abu Hashim and he is his father’s eldest son. His father appointed him as his successor….he is al Mahdi and he did not die….”

[Muhammad al-Hanafiyah’s son, not Hasan nor Husein as the next imam & Mahdi]

4. Abdullah bin Mu’awiyah bin Abdullah bin Ja’far bin Abi Talib (appointed by Abu Hashim) is Mahdi

“….Abdullah bin Mu’awiyah is al Mahdi, who was mentioned by Rasulullah and his Ahlulbait and he will lead the world, to fill it with goodness and justice after it was filled with injustice and oppression. Then, when he died, he will leave his position to someone from Bani Hashim – from the descendant of Ali bin Abi Talib….”

[Imamate would be in the hands of Bani Hashim from Ali bin Abi Talib, not just exclusively to Husein’s progeny]

5. Muhammad bin Abdullah bin al Hasan (al-Mutsanna) bin al Hasan bin Ali bin Abi Talib is Mahdi (known as an-Nafs az-Zakiya)

“When Abu Ja’far (AS) dies, his followers were divided into 2 groups. The first believed in the imamate of Muhammad bin Abdullah bin al Hasan bin al Hasan bin Ali bin Abi Talib who revolted in Madina and was killed there. He claimed that he was al Mahdi and he did not die….”

[Mahdi is Hasan’s progeny who was martyred in Madina]

6. Ja’far al-Sadiq is Mahdi

“His followers (Ja’far al Sadiq) were divided into 6 groups…..Ja’far bin Muhammad did not die and he will not die until he revolts and rule the people and he is al-Mahdi….”

[Ja’far al-Sadiq is Mahdi, however after his death the majority of Shia’s scholars & respected figures believed in Abdullah, not Musa al-Kadhim as the next imam. After Abdullah died, they then followed Musa al-Kazim]

7. Ismail bin Ja’far al-Sadiq is Mahdi

“….they denied the death of Ismail during his father’s life – saying it was a trick plotted by his father, who was afraid for him, so he hid him. They claimed Ismail would not die until he ruled the world and cared for the people and that he was al-Mahdi, because his father appointed him for the imamate after him….”

[The true imam was Ismail not Musa al-Kadhim]

8. Muhammad bin Ismail bin Ja’far al Sadiq is Mahdi

“….There were only 7 imam after Rasulullah and his Ahlulbait. They were Ali bin Abi Talib, al-Hasan, al-Husein, Ali bin al-Husein, Muhammad bin Ali, Ja’far bin Muhammad, Muhammad bin Ismail bin Ja’far, who was al-Qaim al-Mahdi….”

[True imam were only 7 not 12]

9. Musa al Kadhim is Mahdi

“….Musa bin Ja’far did not die, nor will he die until he rules the world from east to west. He would fill it with justice after it had been filled with oppression. They claimed that he was al-Qaim al-Mahdi….”

[Imamate ended with al-Kadhim, did not continue after him. Ali al-Ridha and others after him were only al-Kadhim’s deputies, not true imam]

10. Muhammad bin Ali bin Muhammad bin Ali bin Musa is Mahdi

“….when Ali bin Muhammad bin Ali bin Musa al-Ridha (AS) died, a group from his followers believed in the imamate of his son, Muhammad, who died in Samarra during his father’s life…They claimed that he was al-Mahdi….”

[Ali al-Ridha did not appointed Muhammad al-Jawad/al-Taqi as the next imam as he was not a mature adult]

11. Hasan bin Ali al-Askari is Mahdi

“….his followers became fourteen 14 groups after his death. One group said that al-Hasan bin Ali is alive, but he disappeared and he is al-Mahdi, for it is impossible for him to die not leaving an acknowledged son….”

[This is one of the most confusing death as his followers were divided into this many groups]

Source: 3rd century shia scholar al-Hasan bin Musa al-Nawbakhti's book Firaq al-Shia

 

The belief of Imamate which supposed to prevent the people from misguidance became the doctrine which misguide and confused shias and even confused the close companions/scholars during the time of every Imam.

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17 minutes ago, Fahad Sani said:

1. Ali a.s is Mahdi

“….Ali was not killed and he did not die. They said that he would not die until he has driven the Arabs with his cane and filled the earth with justice and fairness after it has been filled with oppression and injustice. This was the first sect in Islam which believed in waqf (imamate ended with Ali as hidden imam) after Rasulullah. They are also the first extremists. They are called Saba’iyyah, the follower of Abdullah bin Saba’ who publicly criticised Abu Bakar, Umar…“

“…some scholars who were close to Ali (AS) said that Abdullah bin Saba’ was a Jew before he converted to Islam…”

“….he (Abdullah bin Saba’) was the first to declare that the imamate of Ali (AS) was mandatory…”

[The first people who hated Abu Bakar & Umar (ra) were the followers of Abdullah bin Saba]

:bismillah:

Opponents misquote some Shia Traditons about Abdullah Ibn Saba. Some of them we presented to you in the earlier sections. But it seems better to discuss about them in detail, so that Nasibies are left with no escape door to run away or to deceive the people. Insha-Allah.

There are 2 type of traditions about Abdullah Ibn Saba.

 

  1. Those Traditions, which are reported without any chain of narration.
  2. And those traditions, which do have chain of narration (And there is only one such Shia Historian, who recorded them along with their chain of narrations i.e. Al-Kashi).

 

Those Traditons, which are recorded without any Chain of Narrations.

First of all, we take those traditions, which are mentioned without any chain of Narrations. The primary Shia sources of such traditions are only 2 people i.e. Al-Nawbakhti and Allamah Hilli (the latter coming some Shia Ulama only quoted them).

Both of them recorded only that, which was famous among the masses.

1st Traditon: Abul Muhammad al-Hassan bin Musa Al-Nawbakhti

 

 

"Abdullah bin Saba', was one of those who slandered Abu Bakr, Omar, Othman and the Companions and disowned them. He claimed that it was Ali [as] who enjoined this on him. Ali arrested him, and upon interrogation, admitted to the charge, and (Ali) ordered him to be executed.

 

Upon that,people cried 'O Chief of Believers ! Do you execute a man calling to your love, Ahlul-Bayt, to your allegiance, and disowning your enemies?'

 

He (Ali) then exiled him to al-Mada'in (Capital of Iran back then).

 

Some people of knowledge mentioned that Abdullah bin Saba' was a Jew, who embraced Islam and supported Ali. While he was still a Jew, he used to go to extremism in calling Yousha' bin Noon as the appointee (successor) of Moses, thus after embracing Islam - after the demise of the Messenger of

Allah

[pbuh&hf] - he said the like about Ali. It was him who first publicly announced the mandatory Iamamah for Ali, rejected and disowned his enemies, debated his opponents and called them Kafirs. Hence, those who oppose the Shi'ites often say: The Shi'ites and Rejectors (Rafidah) have their roots in Judaism ".

 

Reference: Firaq al-Shi'a: Nubakhti, pp. 43,44

 

 

This is the most favorite tradition of Nasibies. And there are 2 reasons for this:

 

  1. Firstly, this is the Only Shia Traditon, which claims that Mawla Ali didn't let Abdullah Ibn Saba to burn in fire, but he was exiled to Madain.
  2. And secondly, this is the Only Shia Traditon which claims that Abdullah Ibn Saba didn't claim Ali to be "god", but of his "Wilayat" (as Shias do).

 

These 2 points are very important for Nasibies and we will clear them later. Insha-Allah.

At moment, Nasibies have to answer the following questions:

 

  1. First challenge to Nasibies is to show us the chain of narration of this report.
  2. Note: Al-Nawbakhti (died 310 Hijri) wrote his book long after Saif Ibn Umar Kadhab (who died in 160 Hijri). Till that time, the fairy tale of Saif Kadhab became so popular among Sunni Masses that no one was able to trace out the origins of this tale.
  3. There are hundreds and thousands of traditions from Sunni Books like Dur-e-Manthoor and Itteqan etc. which proves "Tehrif-e-Quran". But Nasibies deny all of them while they don't find chain of narration of these hundreds of Ahadith.
  4. But then what is the reason that when it comes to Shia, then every mean tactics become Halal for them?

 

If Nasibies claim that this tradition is authentic. Then they have to accept the following part of this tradition too: {Upon that,people cried 'O Chief of Believers ! Do you execute a man calling to your love, Ahlul-Bayt, to your allegiance, and disowning your enemies?}

Would Nasibies tell us who were these people who started crying? Were these people of Sunni Aqeedah? If they were Sunnies, then why were they saying Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman as enemies of Mawla Ali ?

Or were these people Shias?

And if they were Shias, then whole arguments ends and it is enough to prove that indeed Shia Sect existed long before Abdullah Ibn Saba and Ameer-ul-Momineen Ali Ibn Abi Talib did consider those Shias his real followers and supporter and follower of Deen-e-Haq.

Therefore, our third question to Nasibies is same that what is the identity of these People?

There are some more questions on this tradition of al-Nawbakhti, which are coming later.

Note:

There is one part of this tradition that: " Some people of knowledge mentioned that …"

Nasibies misquote this part and claim it to be the chain of narration. For surely this is a Nasibi Deception and it is indeed not a chain of narration. Why Nasibies are dreaming that Al-Nawbakhti (died 310 Hijri) heard it directly from those "Some people of knowledge"?

Don't you know that Saif Ibn Umar fabricated all these lies in name of some knowledgeable companions of Rasool (saw) and Ali , who were present in Madina, Kufa and Basra in order to give some weight to his fabrications.

By Allah, when it comes to Nasibi Traditions, then these Nasibies are always crying "Weak, Marfo'o, weak memory, Tadlees, ….etc. But when it comes to Shia Ahadith, then these same Nasibies are shouting loudly "Long Live Saif Ibn Umar". Munafiqat?

2nd Tradition: Al-Hassan ibn Hilli

This 2nd Tradition has also been narrated without any chain of narration.

 

 

"Abdullah Ibn Saba became apostate and he started doing "Ghaloo". He claimed prophet-hood (Nabuwaah) for himself and started calling god to Ali . Upon this Ali gave him the time of 3 days to repent, but he didn't repent. Upon this, Ali Ibn Abi Talib let him burn into fire along with his 70 companions.

 

Reference: Kitab-ul-Rajal Al-Hilli, page 469, published in Iran.

 

 

First of all, contrary to popular claim of Saif Ibn Umar (and present day Nasibies), this tradition claims that Abdullah Ibn Saba claimed Ali to be "god" and not "Walayah" for him. Please keep in mind about this Hadith that:

Secondly, contrary to popular claim of Saif Ibn Umar (and present day Nasibies) this tradition claims that Mawla Ali let Abdullah Ibn Saba to burn in fire (instead of exiling him to Madain).

If these 2 contradictions are clear to you, then we move to those Shia Traditions, which have chain of narrations.

3rd Tradition: Al-Kashi

Among Shia Ulama, there were only and only one person "Al-Kashi" who narrated about Abdullah Ibn Saba along with chain of narrations.

The first tradition that Al-Kashi recorded, is the same of "Some people of knowledge", which al-Nawbakhti recorded in his "Al-Faraq us Shia". We have already recorded it above along with objections on it.

The next tradition from Al-Kashi is as under:

 

 

Muhammad bin Qoliah al-Qummi narrated from Sa'ad bin Abdullah, who from Muhammad bin Uthman, who from Younis bin Abdur Rehman, who from Abdullah Ibn Sinan, who from his father, who said that Imam Jaffar Sadiq said: "Abdullah Ibn Saba claimed prophethood for himself and divinity for Ali (i.e. he is god). When Ameer-ul-Momineen came to know it, he called him and asked about it. He admitted it and said: "Yes, you are indeed god. I feel that you are god and I am your prophet".Upon this Ameer-ul-Momineen said: "Woe be upon you. Devil Shaitan has used you and misguided you. You must abandon this. May your mother weep you, you must repent. But Abdullah Ibn Saba denied to repent. Upon this Ali Ibn Abi Talib let him burn in the fire and said: Shaitan (Devil) put these things in his head and thus misguided him".

 

 

And next Tradition is as under:

 

 

Ammd bin Qowliah narrated from S'ad bin Abdullah, who from Yaqood bin Yazeed and Muhammad bin Isa, who from Ibn Abi Umair, who from Hasham bin Salim, who said that he heard it from Imam Abu Abdillah when he told that Abdullah Ibn Saba claimed that Ali was god (naudobillah). Upon that Ali ordered him to repent, but he refused. Then Ali let him burn in fire.".

 

 

These 2 traditions are again contradicting Saif Ibn Umar and popular claim of present day Nasibies that:

 

  1. Abdullah Ibn Saba didn't claimed "Wilayah" for Ali Ibn Talib (like Shia claim), but he claimed him to be god.
  2. And Mawla Ali didn't sent him in exile in Madain, but burnt him in fire due to his apostasy.

 

The next tradition is as under:

Narrated to me Muhammad bin Qolawaih: Narrated to me Sa'd bin Abdullah, said: Narrated to us Yaqoub bin Yazeed and Muhammad bin Issa from Ali bin Mahziyar, from Fadalah bin Ayoub al-Azdi, from Abban bin Othman said: I heard Abu Abdullah [as] saying:'May Allah curse Abdallah bin Saba', he claimed a divineship for Amirul-Mu'mineen (Ali) [as]. By Allah, Amierul-Mu'mineen [as] was volunterily the slave of Allah. Woe to him who lie about us, for there are people who say about us what we don't say about ourselves, we clear ourselves to Allah from them, we clear ourselves to Allah from them'."

This tradition is also telling this that contrary to claim of Saif Ibn Umar Kadhab, Abdullah Ibn Saba claimed Divinity for Ali, and not the Wilayah. Secondly, there is no mention of exiling him to Madain.

Next tradition is as under:

 

 

"Narrated Yaqoub bin Yazeed from Ibn Abi Omair and Ahmad bin Muhammad bin Issa, from his father and al-Husain bin Sa'eed, from Hisham bin Salim, from Abu Hamza al-Thumali said: Ali bin al-Husain [as] said:'May the curse of

Allah

be upon those who tell lies about us. I mentioned Abdullah Ibn Saba and each hair in my body stood up,

Allah

cursed him. Ali was, by

Allah

, a proper servant of

Allah

, the brother of the Messenger of

Allah

. He did not earn the graciousness/honor from

Allah

except with the obedience to

Allah

and His Messenger. And (similarly) the Messenger of

Allah

did not earn the honor from

Allah

except with his obedience to

Allah

'."

 

 

Again this tradition is contrary to claim of Saif Ibn Umar and present day Nasibies that Abdullah Ibn Saba didn't claim Wilayah for Ali Ibn Abi Talib, but Divnity.

Next tradition is as under:

 

 

Narrated Muhammad bin Khalid At-Tayalisi, from Ibn Abi Najran, from Abdullah bin Sinaan said: Abu Abdullah [as] said:"We are a family of truthfulness. But we are not safe from a liar telling lies about us to undermine our truth with his lies in front of people. The Messenger of

Allah

was the most truthful among people in what he said (Lahjatan) and the most truthful among all humanity; and Musaylima used to lie on him. The Commander of Believers was the most truthful one among the creation of

Allah

after the Messenger of

Allah

; and the one who used to lie on him, and tried to undermine his truthfulness and claimed lies about

Allah

, was Abdullah Ibn Saba."

 

 

Again contrary to claim of Saif Ibn Umar Kadhab and present day Nasibies, this tradition is claiming that Abdullah Ibn Saba didn't claim Wilayah for Ali Ibn Abi Talib, but Divinity.

Bukhari's tradition destroying lies of Nasibies favourite Siaf Ibn Umar Kadhaab

And now the following tradition of Bukhari is destroying the Lies of Nasibies favorite Saif Ibn Umar:

 

 

Sahih Bukhari- Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57:

 

Narrated 'Ikrima:

 

Some Zanadiqa were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as

Allah

's Apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with

Allah

's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of

Allah

's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

 

 

Once again here you could see that contrary to Saif Ibn Umar's claim (to which today Nasibies stick to), it is very clear that Ibn Saba was not sent to Madain, but he was burnt in fire by Ali Ibn Abi Talib.

Now, would Nasibies tell us why still they stick to the Lair Saif Ibn Umar and neglect those proofs which are much more stronger than Saif? Is it not open Munafiqah?

Conclusion

If we take the conclusion from all these traditions, then it is as under:

There is only and only first Traditon of Al-Nawbakhti (which is recorded without any chain of narrations) that Abdullah Ibn Saba claimed "Wilayah" for Ali Ibn Abi Talib. And secondly, Ali exiled him to Madain. This tradition without any chain of narration is most probably taken from the stories of Saif Ibn Umar which were spread over all at that time.

As compared to this single Tradition of Al-Nawbakhti (which also doesn't have any chain of narration), we have 6 other Traditions, where we do have chain of narration and which claim that:

 

  • Abdullah Ibn Saba didn't claim Wilayah for Ali, but Divinity
  • He didn't exile him to Madain, but burnt him into fire (along with his companions).

 

And these 6 Traditions are much more stronger than single tradition of Al-Nawbakhti, which has absolutely no bases and without any chain of narration.

This proves following points:

Saif Ibn Umar tried to prove that Shias are followers of Abdullah Ibn Saba (the Jew). Therefore, he fabricated this fairy tale that they didn't claim divinity of Ali, but they claimed Wilayah for him.

And today Nasibies have taken Saif Ibn Umar Kadhab as their Imam and Ameer ul Momineen, and propagating his fabricated tale of "Wilayah".

While Shias don't follow the Divinity claim of Abdullah Ibn Saba, but they follow the explicit instructions of Rasool Allah (saw) when he claimed in the valley of Ghadir-e-Khum, while addressing a crowd of over 100.000 people:

"To whom I am Master (Mawlaho), this Ali is also a Master".

Second and most important thing, as compared to single tradition of Al-Nawbakhti (which is even without chain of narration), these other 6 Shia traditions are unanimous that Mawla Ali (as) didn't send Abdullah Ibn Saba in exile to Madain, but burnt him in fire along with his companions.

Note: Even in Sunni Tradition of Ibn Asakir (which have chain of narration), we don't find exiling of Ibn Saba, but only his buring in fire on orders of 4th Caliph Ali.

But if we consider these 6 Shia traditions to be authentic (along with narrations of Sunni Ibn Asakir) then arises the question that according to Nasibi Fiqh, no person has got this right to burn other person in fire for what ever sin. (their fiqh even prohibits to burn small insect like Ant into fire, while they believe that this right of burning is reserved only for Allah).

That is why, if Nasibies want to prove the existence of Abdullah Ibn Saba or his role in Killing of Uthman, then first of all they have to issue fatwa of Misguided Innovation (Bidah e Dhalalah) against their 4th Rashid Caliph.

And not only against their 4th Rightly Guided Caliph, but also declare those thousands of Sahaba and Tabaeen to be misguided Innovators, who were present in Madina at that time and saw him buringing in fire but still they didn't stop the 4th Caliph from this misguidance.

It is now Nasibi's own Choice if they really want to consider these traditions of Al-Kashi and Ibn Asakir to be authentic or not.

The Last nail in Nasibi Coffin

1st Question: If any person says god to Ali, can he still stays in circle of Islam?

Nasible Answer: No, he is an apostate.

2nd Question: What is the punishment of an apostate in Islam?

Nasibi Answer: The punishment of an apostate in Islam is to KILL him.

We mentioned one hypocrisy of Nasibies that they reject the more authentic Traditions of Ibn Asakir and Al-Kashi , who do have even chain of narrations, and as compared to this they accept the weak traditions, which even don't have any chain of narrations, and propagate them.

We also mentioned the reasons behind this Hipocratic Nasibi behaviour if Nasibies have to believe in these traditions of Ibn Asakir and Al-Kashi, then they have to declare their 4th Rashid Caliph to be misguided Innovator along with thousands of Sahaba and Tabaeen of Madeena.

In order to come out of this puzzle, Nasibies accepted the weaker traditions of Saif Ibn Umar Kadhab (who claim that Abdullah Ibn Saba was not burnt into fire, but exiled to Madain).

Although impossible, but let us suppose that this hypocritical claim of Nasibies to be true (i.e. Ibn Saba was exiled to Madain). Now we have another question for Nasibies: " Why your 4th Rightly Guided Caliph exiled him to Madain? Indeed the punishment of apostasy is Killing, and not exiling."?

Now what is the Nasibi Fatwa upon this misguided innovation of their 4th Rightly Guided Caliph ?

Note: And this exiling is again a Collective Misguided Innovation of Ajmaeen (all) Stars like Sahaba of Madina who let their 4th Caliph to indulge in this misguided Bidah and didn't stop him with force. So, where is the Nasibi Fatwas upon this Collective Misguided Innovation of Sahaba?

Nasibi quoting from Book Tarikh-e-Shia (and other Later Shia History Books)

Lately, Nasibies are also quoting from Shia History Books which are written centuries after al-Nawbakhti and Al-Kashi. (like Allamah Majlisi, Tareekh Shi'i: Rawdat As-Safa, Ashi'a wat-Tashayyu' etc .

These later generation Shia historians have only reproduced what earlier Ulama have written without checking the Asnaad of each and every report.

And we have already made clear the position of each and every tradition, and Nasibies have been left with no excuse to still misuse/misquote these books of later coming Shia Ulama and historians.

Allahum Sallay Allah Muhammad wa Aale Muhammad.

 

@Fahad Sani If you want authentic traditions regarding Abdullah Ibn Saba:
 

I heard Aboo 'Abd Allaah (as) saying: 'May Allah curse Abdallah bin Saba', he claimed a divineship/lordship for Amirul-Mu'mineen (Ali) [as]. By Allah, Amierul-Mu'mineen [as] was volunterily the slave of Allah. Woe to him who lie about us, for there are people who say about us what we don't say about ourselves, we clear ourselves to Allah from them, we clear ourselves to Allah from them'."

 

  • Source:
  • Al-Kashee, Rijaal, pg. 107, hadeeth # 172

'May the curse of Allah be upon those who tell lies about us. I mentioned Abdullah Ibn Saba and each hair in my body stood up, Allah cursed him. Ali was, by Allah, a proper servant of Allah, the brother of the Messenger of Allah . He did not earn the graciousness/honor from Allah except with the obedience to Allah and His Messenger. And (similarly) the Messenger of Allah did not earn the honor from Allah except with his obedience to Allah'."

 

  • Source:
  • Al-Kashee, Rijaal, pg. 107, hadeeth # 173

 

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7 hours ago, Fahad Sani said:

:bismillah:

:salam:

 

The confusion happened after every imam died as it was recorded by a 3rd century shia scholar al-Hasan bin Musa al-Nawbakhti in his book Firaq al-Shia. It all started after Ali’s a.s death and it is repeated every time an imam passed away. When the 11th imam died, his followers were divided into 14 different groups, each one has their own unique opinions.

Here are some examples of perplexion/confusion.

1. Ali a.s is Mahdi

“….Ali was not killed and he did not die. They said that he would not die until he has driven the Arabs with his cane and filled the earth with justice and fairness after it has been filled with oppression and injustice. This was the first sect in Islam which believed in waqf (imamate ended with Ali as hidden imam) after Rasulullah. They are also the first extremists. They are called Saba’iyyah, the follower of Abdullah bin Saba’ who publicly criticised Abu Bakar, Umar…“

“…some scholars who were close to Ali (AS) said that Abdullah bin Saba’ was a Jew before he converted to Islam…”

“….he (Abdullah bin Saba’) was the first to declare that the imamate of Ali (AS) was mandatory…”

[The first people who hated Abu Bakar & Umar (ra) were the followers of Abdullah bin Saba]

2. Muhammad bin al Hanafiyya is Mahdi

“….they said al Hasan bin Ali went to war against Mu’awiyah with the permission of Muhammad and made treaty also with his permission. al Husein also, they said, fought Yazid with his permission, if not, both of them (al Hasan & al Husein) will be astray and ruined…”

[Hasan & Husein are followers of the true imam, Muhammad al-Hanafiyah]

3. Abdullah bin Muhammad bin al Hanafiyya (Abu Hashim) is Mahdi

“….he is called Abu Hashim and he is his father’s eldest son. His father appointed him as his successor….he is al Mahdi and he did not die….”

[Muhammad al-Hanafiyah’s son, not Hasan nor Husein as the next imam & Mahdi]

4. Abdullah bin Mu’awiyah bin Abdullah bin Ja’far bin Abi Talib (appointed by Abu Hashim) is Mahdi

“….Abdullah bin Mu’awiyah is al Mahdi, who was mentioned by Rasulullah and his Ahlulbait and he will lead the world, to fill it with goodness and justice after it was filled with injustice and oppression. Then, when he died, he will leave his position to someone from Bani Hashim – from the descendant of Ali bin Abi Talib….”

[Imamate would be in the hands of Bani Hashim from Ali bin Abi Talib, not just exclusively to Husein’s progeny]

5. Muhammad bin Abdullah bin al Hasan (al-Mutsanna) bin al Hasan bin Ali bin Abi Talib is Mahdi (known as an-Nafs az-Zakiya)

“When Abu Ja’far (AS) dies, his followers were divided into 2 groups. The first believed in the imamate of Muhammad bin Abdullah bin al Hasan bin al Hasan bin Ali bin Abi Talib who revolted in Madina and was killed there. He claimed that he was al Mahdi and he did not die….”

[Mahdi is Hasan’s progeny who was martyred in Madina]

6. Ja’far al-Sadiq is Mahdi

“His followers (Ja’far al Sadiq) were divided into 6 groups…..Ja’far bin Muhammad did not die and he will not die until he revolts and rule the people and he is al-Mahdi….”

[Ja’far al-Sadiq is Mahdi, however after his death the majority of Shia’s scholars & respected figures believed in Abdullah, not Musa al-Kadhim as the next imam. After Abdullah died, they then followed Musa al-Kazim]

7. Ismail bin Ja’far al-Sadiq is Mahdi

“….they denied the death of Ismail during his father’s life – saying it was a trick plotted by his father, who was afraid for him, so he hid him. They claimed Ismail would not die until he ruled the world and cared for the people and that he was al-Mahdi, because his father appointed him for the imamate after him….”

[The true imam was Ismail not Musa al-Kadhim]

8. Muhammad bin Ismail bin Ja’far al Sadiq is Mahdi

“….There were only 7 imam after Rasulullah and his Ahlulbait. They were Ali bin Abi Talib, al-Hasan, al-Husein, Ali bin al-Husein, Muhammad bin Ali, Ja’far bin Muhammad, Muhammad bin Ismail bin Ja’far, who was al-Qaim al-Mahdi….”

[True imam were only 7 not 12]

9. Musa al Kadhim is Mahdi

“….Musa bin Ja’far did not die, nor will he die until he rules the world from east to west. He would fill it with justice after it had been filled with oppression. They claimed that he was al-Qaim al-Mahdi….”

[Imamate ended with al-Kadhim, did not continue after him. Ali al-Ridha and others after him were only al-Kadhim’s deputies, not true imam]

10. Muhammad bin Ali bin Muhammad bin Ali bin Musa is Mahdi

“….when Ali bin Muhammad bin Ali bin Musa al-Ridha (AS) died, a group from his followers believed in the imamate of his son, Muhammad, who died in Samarra during his father’s life…They claimed that he was al-Mahdi….”

[Ali al-Ridha did not appointed Muhammad al-Jawad/al-Taqi as the next imam as he was not a mature adult]

11. Hasan bin Ali al-Askari is Mahdi

“….his followers became fourteen 14 groups after his death. One group said that al-Hasan bin Ali is alive, but he disappeared and he is al-Mahdi, for it is impossible for him to die not leaving an acknowledged son….”

[This is one of the most confusing death as his followers were divided into this many groups]

Source: 3rd century shia scholar al-Hasan bin Musa al-Nawbakhti's book Firaq al-Shia

 

The belief of Imamate which supposed to prevent the people from misguidance became the doctrine which misguide and confused shias and even confused the close companions/scholars during the time of every Imam.

This is no mystery. This was by design to keep the enemies of the AhlulBayt guessing. Walking around with a plaque around their neck stating, "I am Shia Imam" would only get them killed sooner. It seems to have done the trick because people other than pure shias are still confused.

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Man, have you even read Firaq-as'Shia? Not only are your quotes out of context, there is literally no debate that the sect itself splintered. That said, the vast majority of these 'splinters' returned to the fold once the matter at hand was cleared up. The only reason it didn't happen sooner (or smoother) was becuase the Great Golden Age Khalifas (may Allah curse all opressors from amongst them) were literally killing, imprisoning, and exiling Shias left right and center, creating chaos in which any sort of guided effort to consolidate a claim was near impossible.

Tell me, how are you supposed to disseminate a message when the entire government apparatus is trying to wipe you out?

 

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