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assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh:

first i would like to say thanks guys who are the managers of this respectful forum website

that you didn't delete my posts or banned me like other Muslims forums that i faced  I really appreciate it

so thanks again ,i truly wish this topic i created be my official subjects about imam Nasser Mohammad Al-Yemeni

to freely put most important statements and also give the chance for the brothers to discuss it  but if that not allowed

i understand or you maybe wish to move the to topic to suitable sections in any case i will understand thanks ...

 

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16 minutes ago, mrbasserby said:

assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh:

first i would like to say thanks guys who are the managers of this respectful forum website

that you didn't delete my posts or banned me like other Muslims forums that i faced  I really appreciate it

so thanks again ,i truly wish this topic i created be my official subjects about imam Nasser Mohammad Al-Yemeni

to freely put most important statements and also give the chance for the brothers to discuss it  but if that not allowed

i understand or you maybe wish to move the to topic to suitable sections in any case i will understand thanks ...

 

Salamun alaykum.

imam Nasser Mohammad Al-Yemeni?

Do you believe in him? If yes, though I am not an admin but please don't waste your time and members' time by preaching him here.

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walakom aslam brother why you think its a waste of time my brother did you read his statements before you Judged that fast Allah(st) said:

الَّذِينَ يَسْتَمِعُونَ الْقَوْلَ فَيَتَّبِعُونَ أَحْسَنَهُ ۚ أُولَٰئِكَ الَّذِينَ هَدَاهُمُ اللَّهُ ۖ وَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمْ أُولُو الْأَلْبَابِ
Who listen to speech and follow the best of it. Those are the ones Allah has guided, and those are people of understanding.
 
 

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18 minutes ago, mrbasserby said:

walakom aslam brother why you think its a waste of time my brother did you read his statements before you Judged that fast Allah(st) said:

الَّذِينَ يَسْتَمِعُونَ الْقَوْلَ فَيَتَّبِعُونَ أَحْسَنَهُ ۚ أُولَٰئِكَ الَّذِينَ هَدَاهُمُ اللَّهُ ۖ وَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمْ أُولُو الْأَلْبَابِ
Who listen to speech and follow the best of it. Those are the ones Allah has guided, and those are people of understanding.
 
 

Yes. I have read a lot about him, his claims, his beliefs, his challenges with Ahmad al-Hasan and Turabi, etc.

So this is a judgment based on knowledge.

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OK my brother this is what your stand for i respect that but other brothers may think differently give them at least a chance to read his statements then let them decide for themselves but if the moderators

didn't allowed me i will understand ..

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On 6/26/2016 at 10:26 AM, mrbasserby said:

so thanks again ,i truly wish this topic i created be my official subjects about imam Nasser Mohammad Al-Yemeni

Salam. It has been a long time. You told us in 2010 that he already arrived. Can you say in what city he is living? 

 

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@mrbasserby, Nasser Mohammed who claims Allah swt did not send any authority for Imam Mohammed son of al-Hassan a.s. was already exposed by Imam Ahmed al-Hasan a.s.

Imam a.s. wrote 4 years ago:

"On this page, I saw that someone posted a letter directed to me from a person named Nasser Muhammad who falsely claims to be the Mahdi, lying and with no legitimate proof. So he is like Musaylima and Sajjah and other liars in the time of the Messenger of Allah Muhammad pbuhap. And this liar, Nasser Muhammad, requests to make a mubahala with me, and in his statement, he wrote a mubahala in a format different than the legitimate format, due to his ignorance about the legitimate format of a mubahala. Anyhow, with his mubahala and with what he stipulated for himself, he made it easy for us to prove our truth to him and to others who are deluded about his honesty. And he made it easy for us to prove his falsehood and his lying to them.
In his statement, Nasser Muhammad said,
“And after we make our mubahala, if Allah doesn’t disfigure you into a pig within a second after the mubahala, then I am not the truthfully awaited Mahdi.”
He also said, “And Allah has not sent down any authority for Muhammad al-Hassan al-Askari or for Ahmad al-Hassan the Iraqi, who calls himself the Yamani. And if Ahmad al-Hassan the Iraqi shows up for the mubahala on this website or on my website, the website of Imam Nasser al-Yamani, and after his presence and the end of the mubahala, if within the first second Ahmad al-Hassan does not transform into a pig then Nasser Muhammad al-Yamani becomes the insolent liar and not the Imam who is the awaited Mahdi.”
And he also said, “And observe [the mubahala] between Nasser Muhammad al-Yamani and Ahmad al-Hassan al-Yamani, and see which of us is the insolent liar, but he will not, will not and will not show up.”
So here I am, I am present for the mubahala after I received the statement of Nasser Muhammad.
And by my presence, it is made clear he is a liar, as he repeated “will not” three times, and as some say that in the Arabic language, this means emphasis, meaning that the one saying it is saying that the action after the “will not” will never occur no matter how much time passes. So Nasser Muhammad said “will not, will not and will not show up,” and here I am, I showed up and made the mubahala with him and Nasser Muhammad is shown to be a liar.
And this is my mubahala for the one called “Nasser Muhammad.” I am writing it myself and publishing it on my page and on his website like he requested, to prove that I am honest and that Nasser Muhammad is an insolent liar by his own conditions:
(O Allah, Lord of the seven skies and Lord of the seven earths, Knower of the unseen and the witnessed, the Abundantly Merciful, the Intensely Merciful.
If Ahmad al-Hassan has truly committed disbelief and claimed falsely, then send upon him a calamity from the sky or a painful torment.
And if Nasser Muhammad has truly committed disbelief and claimed falsely, then send upon him a calamity from the sky or a painful torment.)
And this is the mubahala in accordance with the Quranic text, the Almighty said, {Then whoever argues with you about it after [this] knowledge has come to you - say, “Come, let us call our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves, then make the mubahala and invoke the curse of Allah upon the liars.”} Surat Aal-e-Imran (The Family of Imran) 3:61
And after I have written the mubahala by the legitimate format and published it, nothing happened to me but good. And here I am, after making the mubahala with this liar, enjoying the blessing of Allah and His favor, so now it is made clear to Nasser Muhammad and those whom he has deceived that I am the truth and that Nasser Muhammad is an insolent liar according to his own condition that he stipulated upon himself, as Nasser Muhammad said,
“No one should make the mubahala with me except Ahmad al-Hassan al-Yamani who says that he is the messenger of Imam al-Mahdi. And Allah is the witness that he is the messenger of an expelled Satan. So if he steps forward for the mubahala and Allah does not transform him into a pig within the first second after the mubahala, then he proves that he is truthfully a messenger of Imam al-Mahdi Muhammad al-Hassan al-Askari, and he proves that he is in the crypt of Samarra and he proves that Nasser Muhammad al-Yamani is the insolent liar.”
So here I am, I made the mubahala with Nasser Muhammad and with this I proved to Nasser Muhammad and to those whom he deceived that I am the truth and that my father Muhammad bin al-Hassan is the truth and is existent, and I proved that Nasser Muhammad is an insolent liar according to what he stipulated for himself. Therefore, his call is invalidated as a whole and in detail. And there is no excuse before Allah for whoever follows him or believes him after this day and after I proved with the absolute proof that he is an insolent liar and according to his own conditions. 
As for the liar Muhammad Nasser’s repetition of the lie of the Wahhabis and Ibn Taymiyya, that the Shia say that Imam Muhammad bin al-Hassan al-Askari pbuh exists in the crypt, it makes the people more insightful about his lying and deviation from the truth, as this is the era of the internet and any person can acquire any piece of information easily, and the books of the Shia are present and can be referred to in order to know that they do not say that Muhammad bin al-Hassan is in the crypt, and this is a lie repeated by the Wahhabis and by this liar Nasser Muhammad, may Allah embarrass him.
And finally, I call Nasser Muhammad to repent and revert from his Satanic and false call, as his consequence will be worse than the consequence of the liars who claimed prophethood in the time of my grandfather the Messenger of Allah Muhammad pbuhap, and Allah will embarrass him in this world and the hereafter.
The Almighty said, {And when a sign comes to them, they say, “Never will we believe until we are given like that which was given to the messengers of Allah .” Allah is most knowing of where He places His message. There will afflict those who committed crimes debasement before Allah and severe punishment for what they used to conspire.} Surat Al-Anam (The Cattle), 6:124. "

Edited by Mr. Anderson

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On ۱۳۹۵/۴/۶ ه‍.ش. at 6:56 PM, mrbasserby said:

assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh:

first i would like to say thanks guys who are the managers of this respectful forum website

that you didn't delete my posts or banned me like other Muslims forums that i faced  I really appreciate it

so thanks again ,i truly wish this topic i created be my official subjects about imam Nasser Mohammad Al-Yemeni

to freely put most important statements and also give the chance for the brothers to discuss it  but if that not allowed

i understand or you maybe wish to move the to topic to suitable sections in any case i will understand thanks ...

 

 

2 hours ago, Mr. Anderson said:

@mrbasserby, Nasser Mohammed who claims Allah swt did not send any authority for Imam Mohammed son of al-Hassan a.s. was already exposed by Imam Ahmed al-Hasan a.s.

Imam a.s. wrote 4 years ago:

"On this page, I saw that someone posted a letter directed to me from a person named Nasser Muhammad who falsely claims to be the Mahdi, lying and with no legitimate proof. So he is like Musaylima and Sajjah and other liars in the time of the Messenger of Allah Muhammad pbuhap. And this liar, Nasser Muhammad, requests to make a mubahala with me, and in his statement, he wrote a mubahala in a format different than the legitimate format, due to his ignorance about the legitimate format of a mubahala. Anyhow, with his mubahala and with what he stipulated for himself, he made it easy for us to prove our truth to him and to others who are deluded about his honesty. And he made it easy for us to prove his falsehood and his lying to them.
In his statement, Nasser Muhammad said,
“And after we make our mubahala, if Allah doesn’t disfigure you into a pig within a second after the mubahala, then I am not the truthfully awaited Mahdi.”
He also said, “And Allah has not sent down any authority for Muhammad al-Hassan al-Askari or for Ahmad al-Hassan the Iraqi, who calls himself the Yamani. And if Ahmad al-Hassan the Iraqi shows up for the mubahala on this website or on my website, the website of Imam Nasser al-Yamani, and after his presence and the end of the mubahala, if within the first second Ahmad al-Hassan does not transform into a pig then Nasser Muhammad al-Yamani becomes the insolent liar and not the Imam who is the awaited Mahdi.”
And he also said, “And observe [the mubahala] between Nasser Muhammad al-Yamani and Ahmad al-Hassan al-Yamani, and see which of us is the insolent liar, but he will not, will not and will not show up.”
So here I am, I am present for the mubahala after I received the statement of Nasser Muhammad.
And by my presence, it is made clear he is a liar, as he repeated “will not” three times, and as some say that in the Arabic language, this means emphasis, meaning that the one saying it is saying that the action after the “will not” will never occur no matter how much time passes. So Nasser Muhammad said “will not, will not and will not show up,” and here I am, I showed up and made the mubahala with him and Nasser Muhammad is shown to be a liar.
And this is my mubahala for the one called “Nasser Muhammad.” I am writing it myself and publishing it on my page and on his website like he requested, to prove that I am honest and that Nasser Muhammad is an insolent liar by his own conditions:
(O Allah, Lord of the seven skies and Lord of the seven earths, Knower of the unseen and the witnessed, the Abundantly Merciful, the Intensely Merciful.
If Ahmad al-Hassan has truly committed disbelief and claimed falsely, then send upon him a calamity from the sky or a painful torment.
And if Nasser Muhammad has truly committed disbelief and claimed falsely, then send upon him a calamity from the sky or a painful torment.)
And this is the mubahala in accordance with the Quranic text, the Almighty said, {Then whoever argues with you about it after [this] knowledge has come to you - say, “Come, let us call our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves, then make the mubahala and invoke the curse of Allah upon the liars.”} Surat Aal-e-Imran (The Family of Imran) 3:61
And after I have written the mubahala by the legitimate format and published it, nothing happened to me but good. And here I am, after making the mubahala with this liar, enjoying the blessing of Allah and His favor, so now it is made clear to Nasser Muhammad and those whom he has deceived that I am the truth and that Nasser Muhammad is an insolent liar according to his own condition that he stipulated upon himself, as Nasser Muhammad said,
“No one should make the mubahala with me except Ahmad al-Hassan al-Yamani who says that he is the messenger of Imam al-Mahdi. And Allah is the witness that he is the messenger of an expelled Satan. So if he steps forward for the mubahala and Allah does not transform him into a pig within the first second after the mubahala, then he proves that he is truthfully a messenger of Imam al-Mahdi Muhammad al-Hassan al-Askari, and he proves that he is in the crypt of Samarra and he proves that Nasser Muhammad al-Yamani is the insolent liar.”
So here I am, I made the mubahala with Nasser Muhammad and with this I proved to Nasser Muhammad and to those whom he deceived that I am the truth and that my father Muhammad bin al-Hassan is the truth and is existent, and I proved that Nasser Muhammad is an insolent liar according to what he stipulated for himself. Therefore, his call is invalidated as a whole and in detail. And there is no excuse before Allah for whoever follows him or believes him after this day and after I proved with the absolute proof that he is an insolent liar and according to his own conditions. 
As for the liar Muhammad Nasser’s repetition of the lie of the Wahhabis and Ibn Taymiyya, that the Shia say that Imam Muhammad bin al-Hassan al-Askari pbuh exists in the crypt, it makes the people more insightful about his lying and deviation from the truth, as this is the era of the internet and any person can acquire any piece of information easily, and the books of the Shia are present and can be referred to in order to know that they do not say that Muhammad bin al-Hassan is in the crypt, and this is a lie repeated by the Wahhabis and by this liar Nasser Muhammad, may Allah embarrass him.
And finally, I call Nasser Muhammad to repent and revert from his Satanic and false call, as his consequence will be worse than the consequence of the liars who claimed prophethood in the time of my grandfather the Messenger of Allah Muhammad pbuhap, and Allah will embarrass him in this world and the hereafter.
The Almighty said, {And when a sign comes to them, they say, “Never will we believe until we are given like that which was given to the messengers of Allah .” Allah is most knowing of where He places His message. There will afflict those who committed crimes debasement before Allah and severe punishment for what they used to conspire.} Surat Al-Anam (The Cattle), 6:124. "

@mrbasserby and @Mr. Anderson

I have a suggestion. One of you supports Nasser Mohammad Al-Yemeni and the other believes in Ahmad al-Hassan and we reject both.

So my suggestion is that both of you continue discussing and rejecting each other and proving your ideas in this thread. Finally let us know which one will win. Then we begin to discuss with the winner. After all, both of you can not be right though both can be wrong.

 

 

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2 hours ago, amirhosein_88 said:

I have a suggestion. One of you supports Nasser Mohammad Al-Yemeni and the other believes in Ahmad al-Hassan and we reject both.

Good answer! :) Surely when the real Imam Mahdi AJ returns, he would begin to follow Allah's order to rid the world of injustice. What have those two cult leaders done in all these years after their arrival? 

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