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I'm a Muslim and I've spend a considerable amount of time studying Christianity. As a result, I'm curious to know how well my Muslim brothers and sisters understand the core beliefs of Christianity. So if you're a Muslim, feel free to take this test and answer the following questions to the best of your ability. No cheating! Thanks.

1) What is the trinity?

2) What does it mean that Jesus is the son of God?

3) What does it mean that Jesus is the son of man?

 

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Salam

Its like Egg, It has yolk, white and shell. but these three are all called egg.

Its like water, it can be liquid, it can be ice, it can be steam, but in all these three conditions water is water.

Its like human, we have soul, mind, body, and the three of these is called human.

we cannot talk to God directly, so we should do it through Jesus. It all goes into Jesus and by him we can connect to God.

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The attributes of God is divided among the three, one is merciful, one is eternal ,...

Most people just don't get it! 

even big top monks say its a mystery we cannot understand, we just accept it.

if I am not mistaken, in bible its said that Abraham is son of Father, Moses, Jesus, ...all sons of Father. 

 

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Salams,

Im not sure about the 2nd one to be honest, so that will be more of a guess.

- The Trinity is the belief that God has 3 'persons' (hypostases) in one subsistence (ousia).

- That he has a devine nature to him (uncreated). Although that doesnt seem to satisfactorily explain the use of the word.

- That he has a human nature to him (created) born from Mary(as).

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1. The Trinity means three beings sharing the same,singular essence that is God.

2 . According to the Christians,  "Son of God" is in reference to Jesus' divine nature and his relation to God the Father.

3."Son of Man" is in reference to his human nature and his  relation to Mary  (as)

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57 minutes ago, DoJustice_LoveMercy said:

Christian here....when are you going to give us your answers?  :0

Congrats to @Ruq and @Gaius I. Caesar for getting them right.

My answer to the first question is expressed in different words...

1. The Son, the Father, and the Holy Spirit are three distinct persons in one being (God) - each one of them are 100% divine. 

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Hi Ali666,

 

Yes, you are coming close to the general understanding of the faulty trinity doctrine, although neither the word 'trinity,' nor the concept of 'trinity' are given in the Scripture, --- except for this verse in 1 John 5:

7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.

 

You said, Quote: 1. The Son, the Father, and the Holy Spirit are three distinct persons in one being (God) - each one of them are 100% divine.

--- The 'three' are distinct Personages and they are 'one' in harmony, but they are 'Manifestations of God' --- but not one God, in one place.

They are each 100% spiritual, and 100% divine --- God the Father, The Word, and the Holy Spirit. --- When this same 'trinity doctrine' was questioned in the Quran in Surah 4, in the fourth year of the Hijrah, in 626, the right answer was given. --- Surah 4:

141 O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth.

The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah,

--- and His Word which He conveyed unto Mary, (Surah 3:45)

--- and a Spirit from Him. (The Holy Spirit)

So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One God.

Surah 3:45 Behold! the angel said: "O Mary! God giveth thee glad tidings of a 'Word from Him:' his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to God;

 

Since the 'Word' came from God in heaven, He was 100% spiritual, and 100% divine, but could not be seen by mankind, so had to 'indwell' or 'live within' the sinless body of Jesus.

The three mentioned from heaven are: --- God the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit. --- the same as in 1 John 5.

John 14 says "The Word became flesh" --- but was 100% spirit inside the sinless human body of Jesus. --- So the physical human Jesus, born of Mary, was the Messenger. --- (Not one of the three mentioned, was He?)

 

--- See how long this discussion has gone on? --- Since 626 AD

The name Jesus means Savior, --- the name Christ means Messiah. So together, --- the dual name of Jesus Christ, --- Savior/Messiah.

The confusion is that Jesus was CALLED the Son of God in Luke 1:35, and the trinitarians replaced --- the Word, --- with the Son, in their trinity, --- teaching that it was Jesus, --- so they exalted Jesus to divinity. --- (The Word was also CALLED the Son of God in the heavenlies, --- so was a Spiritual Son of God, also called 'the Son of His love.')

--- There are others who see it differently, and understand the trinity in their own way and that is okay, but it is important to know that there is only one Almighty God, --- so His various Manifestations can remain a mystery to those who see it as a mystery. --- "God's ways are not our ways."

 

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Hmm the way I can answer God, Word (Jesus) and Holy Spirit is by showing the first 3 scriptures of the bible.

Genesis  1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

As you can see three doing separate acts.

God creating, The Spirit of God moving over the waters (Holy Spirit) and finally God's Word creating light (Jesus)

John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us 

 

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