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A Question For Iranians And Shiites In Germany

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Salam aleykom,

 

I found this article recently http://www.theguardian.com/world/iran-blog/2014/may/12/iran-converted-christians-sanctuary-germany-muslim

A friend said to me that many of them were fake christian converts who just do that for have visas but i dont know if its true.

Could an iranian or a shiite in general who live in germany could say to me if this article is true or exagerated ?

Is it true that some iranians falsely claimed to be persecuted because they are christians or gays just for have visas ?

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Is it true that some iranians falsely claimed to be persecuted because they are christians or gays just for have visas ?

 

Pretending to be a Christian can't be too difficult.  As for pretending to be gay:

 

Gay and lesbian people seeking asylum in the UK from persecution abroad are being ordered to "prove" their sexuality, MPs have said. In extreme cases claimants had handed over photographic and video evidence of "highly personal sexual activity" in an effort to persuade officials, the Home Affairs Committee found.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24479812

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Salam aleykom,

 

I found this article recently http://www.theguardian.com/world/iran-blog/2014/may/12/iran-converted-christians-sanctuary-germany-muslim

A friend said to me that many of them were fake christian converts who just do that for have visas but i dont know if its true.

Could an iranian or a shiite in general who live in germany could say to me if this article is true or exagerated ?

Is it true that some iranians falsely claimed to be persecuted because they are christians or gays just for have visas ?

 

Salam/Shalom/Peace Alidu78,

 

Just think of all a former Muslim gives up in order to follow Jesus Christ:

He/she is labeled an apostate.

He/she is often disowned by family.

He/she may be threatened with death threats or be killed.

He/she may lose their job and/or place in a university.

He/she is no longer trusted by the Muslim community and oftentimes no longer welcome in the Muslim world.

 

For example, one of my friends is a former Muslim from Pakistan: Dr. Steven Masood. He converted to Christianity before I was born. Steven is the name he chose after his father disowned him. (His Dad tried to kill him but God intervened.) Masood used to be his first name and now is his last time, when his Dad took his last name away from him.

 

Steven was living in Pakistan and didn't flee to England until after university students tried to kill him. How he fled to England is due to English Christians who became concerned for him and who used their influence to get him out of his beloved country into the UK. Now, he didn't become a Christian in order to move to the West. He became a Christian because he received revelation from God that Jesus gives assurance of salvation. He could have been killed before ever seeing the West, had God not intervened.

 

Steven could have been killed when his dad tried to hang him. God didn't have to intervene. He could have been killed at the hands of university students. Again, God did not have to intervene again. If he had stayed in Pakistan, God could have continued to protect him or let him die. However, God chose to bring him to England, than to the USA where he met his wife (one of my good friends).

 

So, I really don't think a person from Iran or Pakistan or wherever falsely claims to be a Christian in order to get a visa. There are thousands of Muslims in Germany who received visas with no problem. Similarly, there are thousands of Muslims in the USA who have received visas (though I think it's much more difficult to immigrate to the USA if from a Muslim background than to Germany). From what I understand, most Muslims would prefer to live in Germany if given a choice between the USA or Germany.

 

Converting to Christianity from a Muslim background is no picnic. It is fraught with danger, hatred, and suspicion from the Muslim world. So, any former Muslim who publicly proclaims Christianity, whether in the West or in their home country, is looked upon with suspicion by his/her family and by the Muslim community at large. Steven Masood sadly gets a lot of hate mail and yeah, many Muslims think he became a Christian to move to the West. However, he became a Christian in Pakistan, was almost killed several times, and fled to the West at the insistence of his Western brothers in Christ.

 

Peace and God bless you

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Have a visa for an iranian is not so easy in Germany. Maybe its easy in a fairy tale but not in the reality.

Me i would like to know if they are fake christian converts or if they really converted to christianity , its why i would like to know what a german iranian or a shiite in germany think about this article.


Hum sorry Haji in the country where i am i couldnt read this website . Could you do a copy of all the article ?

Thank you.

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