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(salam)

 

(bismillah)

 

So as of Sunday night, 27July14/30Ramadhan35 the death toll in West Afrika is 672 according to CBSNews.

 

And of course, while the CDC is busy, there appears to be no sense of urgency among Western Leaders.

 

Which will change as soon as in lands in their country.

 

 

In the mean time, we can all raise awareness by wearing patches, buttons, raising placards, bumper stickers...

 

Medicines sans Frontiers works in these areas and with Marburg hemorrhagic fever, so send donations to them.

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Salam,

 

Isn't there a hadith that sickness will kill 1/3rd of the world and war will kill another 1/3rd? Between Ebola and MERS, there seems to be enough going on..

Is this before the re-appearance of the Imam ajf or after the arrival and before the Day of Judgment?

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(salam)

 

The prepare some things in advance is generally good advice for tornadoes, weather related disasters, as well as disease.

 

The film talked about airborne droplets, and that the disease travelled between hogs and apes.

 

I read this week that dogs will carry it but remain "unaffected". A news article this was. Can't remember which one.

 

Because the disease is also transmitted by sweat, this makes it a casual contact disease, and the NPR Diane Rheims Show on Thursday the 31st the guest said this is true when "there is a break in the skin" to allow infection.

 

I'd also have a rifle around incase society breaks down. Organize around the local police.

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Read The Hot Zone by Richard Preston

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One of the world's top Ebola specialists has died due to being infected.

 

Also, this time around even to your average person living in the west, this outbreak looks serious, especially considering events occuring today.  

Peace and blessings be upon Prophet Muhammad (sawaws) and his Family.

May Allah keep safeguard over me and my family and friends.

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Just a piece of advice, trust the "so called public health officials" who are risking their lives fighting ebola over some random nutjob who makes his living by posting conspiracy theories on a wide variety of topics on YouTube.

The guy is right though, this is one of the worst ebola outbreaks in history so we cant just dismiss this video.

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Dewaan,  one could consider you a 300.JPG, generally individuals in the medical field get upset, by such conspiracy theories, because it tends to instigate them with the corrupters. There are always more then one side to a story, and generally these crazy Conspiracy theorists, break the main stream propaganda indoctrination.

 

For example, the media is always bias towards israel, yet, why do individuals such as yourself deny their truth?. They are the mainstream, therefore it must be the truth.

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please don't call other members names.

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Salam,

 

Isn't there a hadith that sickness will kill 1/3rd of the world and war will kill another 1/3rd? Between Ebola and MERS, there seems to be enough going on..

Is this before the re-appearance of the Imam ajf or after the arrival and before the Day of Judgment?

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If you are in West Africa, yes you should be worried about this and be careful. May Allah(s.w.a) help the brothers and sisters there. But it has not spread other places, so not yet a global pandemic. 

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If doctors werent frantically trying to save those already infected then these people would have died and the disease would have stopped spreading and died along with them. Now that they're trying to save the infected they are putting even more people at risk. The whole area should just be quarantined until a vaccine is developed. Its not as if the doctors are doing much good anyway, their efforts are futile until a vaccine can be developed.

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(salam)

 

Here is an article from Mirror,

 

"Ebola Terror at Gatwick as Passenger Collapses and Dies getting off Sierra Leone Flight", by Rebecca Younger 03Aug14

 

The woman was 72 and showed no symptoms until near airport.

 

Not enough resources ( read 'care') being displayed by int'l community.

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(salam)

 

eThErEaL: After I wrote the above, a doctor on TV said that you can get it -airborne- with face to face contact, but not if you are in the next room.

 

 

On NPR today, the test serum of lab produced monoclonal antibodies has shown some positive effect on the two patients at Emory.

 

One patient got a blood transfusion from a 14 year-old boy who survived the disease.

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The guy is right though, this is one of the worst ebola outbreaks in history so we cant just dismiss this video.

 

 

Dewaan,  one could consider you a nut job, generally individuals in the medical field get upset, by such conspiracy theories, because it tends to instigate them with the corrupters. There are always more then one side to a story, and generally these crazy Conspiracy theorists, break the main stream propaganda indoctrination.

 

For example, the media is always bias towards israel, yet, why do individuals such as yourself deny their truth?. They are the mainstream, therefore it must be the truth.

 

Oh for God's sake. You're defending an obvious imbecile who has no knowledge of the medical principles at work. The guy takes one highly publicized experiment, whose results haven't really been replicated anywhere else and claims people aren't being told things. I find it hilarious that you question the medical profession, especially those in public health who more than any other branch of the profession put their lives at risk, but don't hesitate from believing the guy who is obviously making money by publishing YouTube videos on doomsday scenarios about every topic imaginable and then asking people to visit his site for more info so he can garner even more revenue by displaying ads there.

 

Again, read the God-damn article he repeatedly cites. It's own authors speculate multiple reasons for how the virus could've spread between animals that weren't in direct contact. There's a basic scientific principle that is taught in high school: you don't take the speculation that emerges from a single experiment as fact. Yes the virus may potentially be spread without direct physical contact, but that doesn't make it "airborne".

 

Some pathogens are very highly infections, some are extremely lethal. The problem with Ebola doesn't stem from its infectiousness, it's mostly due to its high mortality rate...higher than 50%. Compare that to SARS, a highly infections virus, which killed 10% of infected people.

 

The moron also mucks about the fact that the current strain "is not Ebola Zaire" and that this is a new strain..so the genius concludes the following:

"Note that there doesn't yet seem to be a consensus as to what this new strain is called. One study referred to it as "Guinean EBOV", another as "Guinea 2014 EBOV Ebolavirus" and others are still referring to it as Zaire."

 

Here's the kicker fellows: viruses evolve very quickly and are named arbitrarily by the scientists who map a particular virus's genetic code. He takes something that's normal and makes it sound like something aweful and unprecedented has occurred.

 

This is how conspiracy theorists milk both sides of the medical equation. They spread hysteria and belittle the work of scientists, doctors and front-line workers who are working to fight this outbreak AND fault the system and corporations for "not telling you" what's going on. But when we do find vaccines and cures that work, the same conspiracy theorists spread hysteria about vaccines and other treatment.

 

Read into the resurgence of polio in several developing countries and of pertussis (whooping cough) in places like Australia.

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(salam)

 

CBC (Canada) "Ebola Outbreak: How Canada's prep has 'led the World' "

 

One of the section titles is "ebola not easily spread"

 

Uhh, well I wonder. Starts in Guinea, spreads to Sierra Leone and Liberia in 3-4 months, now 5 dead in Nigeria and may have landed in London...all since the first reported case in February.

 

If panic starts, people will start to act like during the Yellow Fever epidemic in the US...back then, blocking trains, closing roads, shooting 'strangers', etc.

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^Hello,

 

Yep!  Here in the United States, if any strangers show up in town with a fever we shoot 'em.  Then, we pay "illegal immigrants" 50 cents to dispose of the body.  That is just how it works in the United States.  As all the United States experts on Shia Chat such as Hasanhh can tell you.  :)

 

All the Best,

David

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(salam)

 

Doing some reading, and being that CDC hasn't released anything but a PR packet on its website, I've been doing some online read. What I found covered the dates 1999-2013.

 

One study said the mosquitoe Aedes Aegypti does carry Ebola (date is 1999 I think). So, looking up the mosquitoe, I found that is now spread World-Wide. In the US, a map on Aegypti distribution shows: from Cape Hattaras NC and 50 miles inland, then follow the coast down to the 34th Parallel (staying about 50 miles inland), then go west through Columbia, SC -south of Little Rock,AR to the Dallas, TX area, then drop south to the Mexican border.

This mosquitoe ranges in this area.

During the 1980s, I remember that a mosquitoe that carried malaria was blown by the weather into Indiana but could not survive the local Winter. Which mosquitoe I do not know.

 

**Contrary to this: on TV news reports, the interviewed people said mosquitoes do not carry the virus.

 

Other carriers/reservoirs I found are: pigs for Ebola Reston in the Phillippines, dogs and bats --which are 'unaffected'-- for Ebola Zaire.

 

One report said that 173 possible carriers/reservoirs with 40,000+ specimens had "all negative results'. I didn't see bed bugs listed.

 

As "iffy" as info appears to be, temporarily bringing back DDT is a very good idea.

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