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Beautiful story, dear sister! Indeed, Allah guides whomever He wants to guide and those whose hearts are open and who seek truth, sincerely, will find His guidance. The reaction of your parents is unfortunate but I can imagine that your conversion came as a shock to them. How is the situation, now? Any better? And if not, be patient for Allah rewards the patient. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to ask them on this forum.

Praise belongs to God,
the First, without a first before Him,
the Last, without a last behind Him.

Beholders' eyes fall short of seeing Him,
describers' imaginations are not able to depict Him.

(....)

Praise belongs to God, for the true knowledge of Himself He has given to us,
the thanksgiving He has inspired us to offer Him,
the doors to knowing His Lordship He has opened for us,
the sincerity towards Him in professing His Unity to which He has led us,
and the deviation and doubt in His Command
from which He has turned us aside;

(As-Sahifa as-Sajjadiyya, #1, In Praise of God)

Ma`asalama.

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1 hour ago, RevertSister said:

The Glorious Qur’an mentions in several verses, "Obey Allah and obey His Messenger". A true Muslim should only follow the Glorious Qur’an. He can agree with the views of any scholar as long as they conform to the teachings of the Qur’an. If such views go against the Word of Allah, or the Sunnah of His Prophet, then they carry no weight, regardless of how learned the scholar might be.

Salam dear sister.

Thank you for sharing your story.

I'd like to mention some points here:
Allah commands us in Quran to obey the holy messenger and it equates the obedience for the messenger with the obedience for Allah.

The messenger has appointed Ali and Ali's sons as his successors and commanded us to obey them.

So, the obedience for Ahlulbayt is the obedience for Allah and HIS messenger.

In fact, we are following the commands of Allah nothing more.

 

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Even the holy Quran itself commands us to follow "Olil al-amr".

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا أَطِيعُوا اللَّـهَ وَأَطِيعُوا الرَّ‌سُولَ وَأُولِي الْأَمْرِ‌ مِنكُمْ ۖ فَإِن تَنَازَعْتُمْ فِي شَيْءٍ فَرُ‌دُّوهُ إِلَى اللَّـهِ وَالرَّ‌سُولِ إِن كُنتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّـهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ‌ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ خَيْرٌ‌ وَأَحْسَنُ تَأْوِيلًا - 4:59

O believers! Obey Allah and obey the messenger and those in authority among you. And if you dispute concerning anything, refer it to Allah and the Apostle, if you have faith in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more favourable in outcome.

In the viewpoint of Quran, Olil'amr are infallible.  Otherwise, the verse above is a contradiction.  (that is, Oli'amr commands to something against the will of Allah and HIS messenger.)

It is unanimously agreed that the first three caliphs were not infallible.

You can judge by your self.

Edited by John Algar

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Wa Aleykum Salam Sister :)

I really admired your determination to become a Muslima. You must have faced a lot of challenges from your family and friends who do not like the idea of you, accepting Islam.However, no matter how hard they tried to discourage you, try to hold fast to your religion and continue praying to Allah (SWT) for his guidance.

Furthermore, you may come across some Muslims who are not nice (in the future).. I want you to know that their bad manners has nothing to do with islam... Islam in itself is a perfect religion, but the people practicing the religion are human beings afterall... They are prone to making all sorts of mistakes.. A religion must not be blamed just because some of its followers are rude..

There are lots and lots of challenges in life which we all have to face in one way or the other... Those challenges are very hard to overcome. They'll make you want to give up everything... But then, if you have trust in Allah, He'll never let you give up. He'll make you stronger and stronger with every bit of hardship you face.

I agree with the fact that muslims are not suppose to accept sectarian names like that.. Such divisions would only make us weak & vulnerable in front of our real enemies... We should all stand together as muslims as long as we believe in Allah (SWT) and Rasul (SAW). 

With time, i hope you'll continue the search for truth which includes; reading about the history of our beloved Prophet (SAW) and his Ahlelbayt. May Allah bless you, guide you and assist us all in achieving the best of both worlds.

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Wa aleikum as salam wa rahmatullahi wa barakathu,

A wonderful story sister, so happy to have you here with us. May Allah (swt) raise you with Muhammad (saw) and Ahli Muhammad (as).

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4 hours ago, neverforgotten313 said:

Okay fair enough i dont disagree with you there about calling ourselves Muslim

but to be precise, do you accept the 12 Imams as the rightful successors of the Prophet(pbuh)?

 

I am wondering, in case of reverts, is it necessary to ask such Questions.


On one way, yes its part of Imaan.

On other way, one can stay undecided on such issues and still be a rightful muslim.

Whats wrong with not having a position on purely sect oriented issues?

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isnt it interesting that this group alone, everyone in it has had some journey, some of the people had a journey that led them out and back in again, while others from out to in , still while others in to out(permanently)

most of the people here come from converting-reverting-giving up-leaving-returning-background-disbelieving-believing-born into

quiet a bunch of people we got here

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When I became Muslim I was 17 and at first it was overwhelming to understand Shia and Sunni but alhamdillah it didn't take me long. 

I also thought: Why would people divide themselves, why cant i just be Muslim and not shia or sunni? Reality is, I started reading about the lives of ahlul beyt (as) and it took me a couple of gatherings with Sunnis to realize how little ahlul beyt (as) means to them. I got really angry at a Sunni seminar when the speaker just kept referring to other people and not ahlul beyt(as) as if he was purposely trying to hide who they were, I also attended a talk at their masjid which was entitled the family of the prophet and 90% of the talk was abu bakr and Omar and when he would talk about sayeda Fatima (as) it was in a sort of disdainful manner. I said that's it. I don't want to belong to a masjid that is not following the instructions of the prophet about holding fast to Quran and his sunnah. It's ridiculously clear even on Sunni books that the family of the prophet had such great status and for them not to acknowledge it, its truly insulting to Muslims.

That is why we divide ourselves unfortunately, because certain people for whatever their reasons are, prefer to conceal the truth. 

Obviously I'm not saying all Sunnis are like that, a lot of them just never read about the status of the family of the prophet and all they can say is "we love them" and I also decided I didn't want to attend a Sunni masjid when they set up a team of brothers (not even sisters since I'm a girl) to follow me around my university campus in an attempt to stop me from going to the Shia masjid. I had to report them because they would not give up.

They know that once you know the truth of ahlul beyt (as) you can't turn back because it's irrefutable.

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Unity of God
Justice of God

Prophethood
Imamate
Final Day of judhment

Bold has some differences, philosophical differences
Justice philosophy leads to freedom of man, thus a corrupt monarch can't use argument of Gods will in his favor for whatever wrong he do.

Shias donot recognize frst 3 caliphs as righteous, but most importantly6th caliph muahwiya is considered Upsurper (but Imam Hassan accepted him defacto for practical reasons).

When he appointed his son as next caliph, that eventually led to Karbals

Saudi chief cleric even today says Yazid was legitmate ruler and Imam Hussain should not have led the rebellion

This legitimacy argument which is bullsh*t by western standards was used to get Edicts from Clergy to legitimize killing Imam Hussain

You can see where its leading, hard sunni believes will not allow you to enjoy things like Freedom of Speech, Freedom to protest etc as unfortunately those things were crushed in early islam and that history is part of their believe system.

Amar bil Maroof nahi an al munkar (promote truth/right. stop wrong), which for shia are obligatory (i think for sunnis as well) is comparable to Freedom of Speech and protest.

Basically issues are debatable today but they can not agree to a  reasoning that will lead them to denounce muahwiya, his rule, even rule of 1st 3 caliphs, sins of many Sahabis etc. While its much easier for shias to curse muahwiya and other sahabs who did many wrong things, because for us no sahaba has some special exaclted status like our imams.

And there is no such controversy about our 12 imams.

But as Sunni justify 1st 3 caliphs and muahwiya for being sahabi, they ignor many other proven things that sahaba did.

Basically a lot of double think

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12 minutes ago, HGW_XX/7 said:

Unity of God
Justice of God

Prophethood
Imamate
Final Day of judhment

Bold has some differences, philosophical differences
Justice philosophy leads to freedom of man, thus a corrupt monarch can't use argument of Gods will in his favor for whatever wrong he do.

Shias donot recognize frst 3 caliphs as righteous, but most importantly6th caliph muahwiya is considered Upsurper (but Imam Hassan accepted him defacto for practical reasons).

When he appointed his son as next caliph, that eventually led to Karbals

Saudi chief cleric even today says Yazid was legitmate ruler and Imam Hussain should not have led the rebellion

This legitimacy argument which is bullsh*t by western standards was used to get Edicts from Clergy to legitimize killing Imam Hussain

You can see where its leading, hard sunni believes will not allow you to enjoy things like Freedom of Speech, Freedom to protest etc as unfortunately those things were crushed in early islam and that history is part of their believe system.

Amar bil Maroof nahi an al munkar (promote truth/right. stop wrong), which for shia are obligatory (i think for sunnis as well) is comparable to Freedom of Speech and protest.

Basically issues are debatable today but they can not agree to a  reasoning that will lead them to denounce muahwiya, his rule, even rule of 1st 3 caliphs, sins of many Sahabis etc. While its much easier for shias to curse muahwiya and other sahabs who did many wrong things, because for us no sahaba has some special exaclted status like our imams.

And there is no such controversy about our 12 imams.

But as Sunni justify 1st 3 caliphs and muahwiya for being sahabi, they ignor many other proven things that sahaba did.

Basically a lot of double think

JazakAllah for that piece of knowledge. May I ask, are you Sunni or Shia? 

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13 hours ago, HGW_XX/7 said:

Shias donot recognize frst 3 caliphs as righteous, but most importantly6th caliph muahwiya is considered Upsurper (but Imam Hassan accepted him defacto for practical reasons).

When he appointed his son as next caliph, that eventually led to Karbals

Saudi chief cleric even today says Yazid was legitmate ruler and Imam Hussain should not have led the rebellion

I believe the reason Imam Hassan(AS) "accepted" muahwiyas leadership  was in order to show people what kind of "calpihs" the unrightful rulers was, they agreed that leadership would not be passed on to muahwiyas son but that it would return to Imam Hassan(AS), as we now know, they assassinated the Imam and muawiyas son yazid got the leadership.

This lead to the actions of Imam Hussein(AS), he did what he did in order to again show us what kind of "calphis" the unrightful rulers was. If you doubt to who was right, just look at the events of Karbala, if you have a heart in your chest and a brain in your skull you cannot argue regarding the wrongdoing that was done to the family of the Prophet, to our Imam.

As in the case of Imam Hassan(AS), he showed us how the enemy was wrong in their words.

As in the case of Imam Hussein(AS), he showed us how the enemy was wrong in their actions.

With their blood they made it clear for us, so that he who searches and reasons may see truth among the mists of lies but it is up to us to search and reason. For me, one of the absolute major reasons to why I decided to follow Shia islam over Sunni islam was the events of Karbala and the events that lead to it. It is not a question of picking sects, it is a question of picking truth and there can only be one truth.

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14 hours ago, RevertSister said:

Has anyone got any links for comparing the Sunni belief and Shia belief, as to what is the major difference between the two.

 JazakAllah in advance :) 

There's more, alot more....be prepared to be stunned. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Szj3GaYXJQ&list=PLVC7olsi0U34hld6api5Xjr8GJhuVuZi8

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On 2/8/2016 at 3:20 AM, RevertSister said:

Has anyone got any links for comparing the Sunni belief and Shia belief, as to what is the major difference between the two.

 JazakAllah in advance :) 

http://www.al-islam.org/feature/explore-shia-sunni

When you open it, you will find some useful links to the left under "Explore Shia & Sunni"

May Allah bless your path.

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On ‎2‎/‎5‎/‎2016 at 3:48 AM, RevertSister said:

I'm white British along with my parents, I believe we are not supposed to be divided into such sects.

The Quran says, 

"And hold fast,

All together, by the rope, 

Which Allah ( stretches out for you ), 

and be not divided among yourselves;"

[ Al-Quran 3:103 ]

 

What is the rope of Allah that is being referred to in this verse? It is the Glorious Qur’an. The Glorious Qur’an is the rope of Allah which all Muslims should hold fast together. There is double emphasis in this verse. Besides saying ‘hold fast all together’ it also says, ‘be not divided’.

Qur’an further says,

"Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger"
                [Al-Qur’an 4:59]

 

"As for those who divide 

Their religion and break up into sects, 

thou hast no part in them in the least:

Their affair is with Allah:

He will in the end 

Tell them the truth

Of all that they did." 

[Al-Quran 6:159]

 

In this verse Allah (swt) says that one should disassociate oneself from those who divide their religion and break it up into sects.

But when one asks a Muslim, "who are you?", the common answer is either ‘I am a Sunni, or ‘I am a Shia’. Some call themselves Hanafi, or Shafi or Maliki or Humbali. Some say ‘I am a Deobandi’, while some others say ‘I am a Barelvi’.

One may ask such Muslims, "Who was our beloved prophet (pbuh)? Was he a Hanafi or a Shafi, or a Humbali or a Maliki?" No! He was a Muslim, like all the other prophets and messengers of Allah before him.

It is mentioned in chapter 3 verse 52 of Al-Qur’an that Jesus (pbuh) was a Muslim.

Further, in chapter 3 verse 67, Al-Qur’an says that Ibrahim (pbuh) was not a Jew or a Christian but was a Muslim.

 

If anyone poses a Muslim the question who are you, he should say "I am a MUSLIM, not a Hanafi or a Shafi". Surah Fussilat chapter 41 verse 33 says

    "Who is better in speech
Than one who calls (men)
To Allah, works righteousness,
And says, ‘I am of those
Who bow in Islam (Muslim)?’ "

               [Al-Qur’an 41:33]

The Qur’an says "Say I am of those who bow in Islam". In other words, say, "I am a Muslim".

 

We must respect all the great scholars of Islam, including the four Imaams, Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Shafi, Imam Humbal and Imam Malik (may Allah be pleased with them all). They were great scholars and may Allah reward them for their research and hardwork. One can have no objection if someone agrees with the views and research of Imam Abu Hanifa or Imam Shafi, etc. But when posed a question, ‘who are you?’, the reply should only be ‘I am a Muslim’.


Some may argue by quoting the hadith of our beloved Prophet from Sunan Abu Dawood Hadith No. 4579. In this hadith the prophet (pbuh) is reported to have said, "My community will be split up into seventy-three sects."

This hadith reports that the prophet predicted the emergence of seventy-three sects. He did not say that Muslims should be active in dividing themselves into sects. The Glorious Qur’an commands us not to create sects.

The Glorious Qur’an mentions in several verses, "Obey Allah and obey His Messenger". A true Muslim should only follow the Glorious Qur’an. He can agree with the views of any scholar as long as they conform to the teachings of the Qur’an. If such views go against the Word of Allah, or the Sunnah of His Prophet, then they carry no weight, regardless of how learned the scholar might be.

as salaam alaikum, and if I've offended anyone please forgive me. 

 

 

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Dear sister in Islam. Congratulations and welcome to Islam. Shia is not a sect, people make you think its a sect. Who knows the Holy Quran than the last Prophet and messenger,  Mohammad s.a.w ? It was Mohammad s.a.w. that said: "I will leave you two weighty things for Umma to follow, 1) the Holy Quran, 2) and my Ahlul Bait(my family/household) follow these two and you will never go astray. The Prophet did not say this out of choice, but this was Allah's command! Other than that, I 100 % agree with you where we should say, we are Muslims. Good luck to sister and I pray to Allah s.w.t to keep guiding you and make you stay on the right path INSHALLAH.

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On 09/02/2016 at 1:32 AM, Abu Hadi said:

There's more, alot more....be prepared to be stunned. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Szj3GaYXJQ&list=PLVC7olsi0U34hld6api5Xjr8GJhuVuZi8

Thank you for this link.  I'm watching the first video.  I know I really shouldn't say what I'm about to say.  I'm feeling very angry at this Abdul Raheem Green whoever he is.  He strikes me as a bit of an intellectual retard. (Forgive me).

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In the Name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful 

If you are are a revert to Islam and have never fasted before or have only fasted for one or two years, please heed the following advice, you might find it useful. 

Being a revert to Islam, from a Christian upbringing and reverted in my early 20's, the first few years of fasting were very difficult for me. Every year, as the next Ramadan approached, I tried to think of ways that I could make the fasting easier on myself. It is difficult to fully appreciate the spirituality of the Holy Month if you are tired and aggravated thru most of it. For most of us who live in North America, this Ramadan will probably be the longest in terms of hours of daylight we need to keep the fast, and most of us cannot adjust our work schedules just for Ramadan, and most employers and schools are not willing to make accommodations for us. This is unfortunate, but there are still things you can do in order to get thru and not just survive but thrive during this Holy Month. So here are some tips that I have learned, mostly thru trial and error in order to get thru it. The key is preparation, and you still have time to prepare. 

1) Caffeine. 

I drink a lot of coffee and tea. While this doesn't cause me any major issues for most of the time, it does when I am fasting. I used to get massive headaches and sometimes body aches which used to affect me at work. There are two solutions I found to lessen this

A) Cut down caffeine consumption before Ramadan begins. I usually start in the beginning of Rajab (which is a few days away now) to gradually decrease the amounts. So instead of drinking two cups of tea in the morning, I only drink one. Instead of having a cup of coffee in the car on my way to work, I skip it and just have a cup when I get to work. So by the time Ramadan begins, I am only drinking maybe two or three cups a day (instead of my usual 6 or 7). 

B) Get up for Suhur (pre-dawn meal) and eat or at least drink something. The best thing to do is drink as much water as you can fit in your stomach. I usually drink two to three large glasses. This helps you stay hydrated and avoid the headaches. 

2) Eating

I start to change my eating schedule beginning in Rajab. I try to eat less during the day. So I will first cut in half the amount of food I eat for breakfast. Then the amount I eat for lunch I will also cut down. This way your body gradually gets used to the idea that no food is coming during the daytime. In addition, I will delay my meals, so if I normally eat lunch at 12:00, I will wait till 1 or 1:30 instead. If you do this, when you start fasting, it won't be such a huge shock for your body and you can concentrate more fully on the spirituality of the month. 

3) Sleeping. 

The biggest problem for people like me, who are early risers, is sleep during Ramadan. My body naturally gets up around 5:30 or 6 in the morning. But during Ramadan, this type of schedule actually works against you since you are probably staying up later eating and going to gatherings and you run the risk of getting sleep deprived. Just as with the other things, I start to accustom myself to staying up later and waking up only when I have to for work and not earlier than that, so that I get enough sleep. 

4) Extra (mustahab) Fasting. 

It is highly recommended to fast, at least a few days during Rajab and Shaban (the two month before Ramada). Not only will this give you spiritual benefits, but it will also give you physical benefits by preparing your body for the month when you will be fasting every day. Although this is not for everyone, if you are able, try to fast as many days as you can before the month begins, and especially during the two named months, as they are very Holy Month, almost as much as Ramadan itself. 

If you do these things, you will feel better physically and thus will have more energy to concentrate on the most important aspect of Ramadan which is doing Ibadat(worship) in order to get closer to Allah(s.w.a) and your physical discomfort will not hold you back from this.

If anyone else has some useful tips, please share. 

Salam. 

 

 

 

 

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 Deffo best to cut right down on the caffeine (incuding fizzy drinks) before hand so you dont get the withdrawal. The problem with filling up with water is that it can disturb sleep (waking up to go to the loo) if youre going back to sleep after suhur. I recommend eating protein at suhur and/or slow release carbs like porridge. Also, thrist and hunger comes and goes. One moment you can feel so thristy that you fear it may become unbearable, then a short time later you feel fine again (alhamdullillah). Im not sure why that happens, anyone know?

 

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As a naturally born Muslim.

For Ramadan, I usually go to a mosque for iftar. Then I stay up during the night going on the internet checking the Super Mario Boards, GameFAQs, and checking ShiaChat alongside posting on those places to pass my time & watching YouTube. When suhoor time hits, I start eating.

I could say that going at mosque for Iftar is the best way to go about and then staying up for suhoor. I like to eat some leftovers as well.

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