Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
Qa'im

Moslem Shriners (Freemasonry)

Recommended Posts

(salam)

 

I wanted a thread dedicated to the study of the Moslem Shriners, a little-known group within the Freemasons.

 

The Freemasons are a secret society and an international fraternity that originated among European stonemasons between the 14th and 18th centuries. They are an aristocratic response to Christianity and Catholicism in particular, and the group has taken on anti-Christian beliefs, rituals, and symbols. At its core, Freemasonry is monotheistic (believing in one God or one Higher Power), deistic (God does not interfere in the creation), and naturalistic (no belief in spirits). Freemasonry hit the height of its popularity in the 19th and 20th centuries, which coincided with modernism and the rise of secular ideologies.

 

The group is secret, so it communicates via symbols and numerology. Those in the fraternity cannot reveal their secrets to non-members. Since they are "masons", much of their symbolism is hidden in the architecture of cities and buildings. The Freemasons have Lodges, where they meet for activities. Though the Freemasons are still around in large number, it is not taken as seriously in post-modern times - it's become more of a family tradition for many people.

 

Nonetheless, Freemasonry was an opponent of Christianity, and so certain non-Christian (or anti-Christian) symbols and practices were adopted into their secret order. This included some Muslim terms and symbols, as the "Mohammedans" were the main enemies of Christian Europe. The adoption of Arabic pass words (terms like salaam alaykum), Islamic symbols (moon and star), and Middle Eastern apparel (the fez, the regalia) was all of the Edward Said-esque orientalism and obsession with the Eastern non-Christian "other". These superficial representations of "Islam" were an avant-garde expression of the secret society - a way to peacock their distinction while simultaneously angering devout Christians with their Mohammedan otherness.

 

In 1870, the "Moslem Shriners" were founded. The Shriners are an appendant body to the Freemasons - meaning, it is a sub-group. Every Shriner is a Freemason, but not every Freemason is a Shriner. This sub-group was founded after Freemason trips to Algeria and Egypt, where Masons were invited to the parties of Arabian dignitaries. These parties were spectacular, and Arabian culture seemed so fascinating, so upon the Masons' return to the United States, they founded the Moslem Shriners. The Shriners are a group dedicated to men's entertainment, and so they would hold parades, circuses, and festivals. They opened up hundreds of "Temples" across North America. The Shriners still exist today, but the group now is almost exclusively an entertainment group. However, historically, it seemed to be much more than that.

 

The United States was established as a secularist state by white male aristocrats - many of whom were members of the Freemasons and other similar non-Christian secret society. Without going into too much detail, you can find symbols of Freemasonry all over Washington and U.S currency.

 

The Freemasons long had an interest in the Muslim world - hence the depictions of pyramids on U.S currency and the Egyptian-style obelisk we call the Washington Monument. We also find pagan symbols, such as the statue of Persephone, the all-seeing eye of Ra, and the pentagram shape of the city centre.

 

CRAWFORD_Thomas_Statue_of_Freedom_cast_1

 

WhiteHouse.jpg

 

occult-washingtondc_08.jpg

 

dollar+eye.jpg

 

So we can see why the Freemason would be interested in looking into "Islamic" symbology: they were adopting symbols from the non-Christian world. Remember, this was all occurring at a time when travel to the Muslim world was limited, immigration was limited, and communication with practicing Muslims was very limited. In the 19th century in the United States, there were very few ways of ascertaining "true Islam".

 

Here is the symbol of the Moslem Shriners:

 

Shriners.png

 

We see the Islamic star and moon, an Egyptian pharaoh, and a curved sword associated with Arabia. Is there more to this fraternity than fun and games? Below is the alleged "Shriners Oath", the oath that one takes when becoming a Moslem Shriner. The man must put his hand on the Qur'an and say the following:

 

The High Priest of the Temple says to the initiate: "By the existence of Allah and the creed of Mohammed; by the legendary sanctity of our Tabernacle at Mecca, we greet you."

 

The initiate then says: “I do hereby, upon this Bible, and on the mysterious legend of the Koran, and its dedication to the Mohammedan faith, promise and swear and vow … that I will never reveal any secret part or portion whatsoever of the ceremonies … and now upon this sacred book, by the sincerity of a Moslem’s oath I here register this irrevocable vow … in willful violation whereof may I incur the fearful penalty of having my eyeballs pierced to the center with a three-edged blade, my feet flayed and I be forced to walk the hot sands upon the sterile shores of the Red Sea until the flaming sun shall strike me with livid plague, and may Allah, the god of Arab, Moslem and Mohammedan, the god of our fathers, support me to the entire fulfillment of the same. Amen. Amen. Amen.”

 

The Arabic Qur'an or its translation was symbolically placed in some of the Temples. What's interesting is that the Qur'an, up until the 1960s, was almost a forbidden book in America. While elites like Thomas Jefferson certainly owned a copy of the Qur'an - perhaps as a Masonic embellishment - the Qur'an was not given to ordinary people. Libraries that owned copies of the Qur'an did not give it out except to Masons and Nation of Islam members; and even then, the books often needed to remain in the library. In 1865, when a fire burned the University of Alabama library down, the only book that was rescued from the fire was a Holy Qur'an: http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20100910/NEWS/100909583?p=1&tc=pg

 

There was certainly a distance reverence for the Qur'an among Freemasons, as if it were a collectors' item of an anti-Christian tradition. Remember that Islamic scientists and philosophers had a lot to do with the European Renaissance, and those who were most receptive to the sciences of the Moors were these secularist whites. Till this day, university graduates wear a regalia gown and a "fez" with a stringy tassel - this is because universities were the bastions of secularism, naturalism, and secret societies. Ironically, you can say the Islam was a major contributor to naturalism and secularism, because Muslim scientists offered Europeans an alternative to a Bible-centred view of the universe.

 

By 1900, there were over 50,000 Moslem Shriners in America. That year, Shriner paraders greeted President Kinsley with "salaam alaykum". In 1921, President Harding responded to the greeting with "wa alaykum salaam". http://books.google.ca/books?id=lj4jdXSn6f4C&pg=PA60&lpg=PA60&dq=mysterious+legend+of+the+Koran%2C+and+its+dedication+to+the+Mohammedan+faith%2C+promise&source=bl&ots=3OHZB_XAtg&sig=DBHWlzzRv9NekK-fabV5g3ADsJ8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WBKiU9KJC9OSyASKqIKgDg&ved=0CD0Q6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=mysterious%20legend%20of%20the%20Koran%2C%20and%20its%20dedication%20to%20the%20Mohammedan%20faith%2C%20promise&f=false

 

Below are some very famous Moslem Shriners. Notice that they are wearing the fez:

 

U.S President Truman:

 

10394481_10154308191720083_5792025508961

 

U.S President Ford:

 

Gerald-Ford-Shriner-Freemason.jpg

 

Canadian Prime Minister Diefenbaker

 

10457174_10154308190855083_6128036043389

 

General Douglas MacArthur

 

10492425_10154308191275083_7092803861585

 

Astronaut Buzz Aldrin

 

10435939_10154308190075083_3857802823268

 

The mus`haf of Thomas Jefferson

 

thomas-jefferson-quran.jpg

 

---

 

Of course, the Freemason's "Islam" would later be inherited by the Nation of Islam in the 1930s, whose very own Elijah Muhammad was involved in Black Mason movements prior to W.D. Fard's coming. But that would need its own thread.

 

Any comments would be encouraged and appreciated.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

(Salam) brother. I don't know about all this architecture like Washington monument and Egyptian symbols regarding this group. I took a course on western art as we learned about this correlation between Greek and middle eastern cross over from back then and how we see it today. I think it's just in regards to the notion held by the originators of these symbols and architectural structures itself rather than some sort of secret club ideology. Just my thoughts...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You're right, but even the interest in Greco-Roman architecture is notable here. Europe had romanticized the Roman Empire, but the Catholic Church did what it could to destroy Roman idols and Greek philosophy (Plato and Aristotle). The secularists, on the other hand, took pride in all of this: we see Latin phrases in universities, government buildings, and on currencies, we saw the revival of Greco-Roman philosophy and "pagan" literature, we see a Roman goddess in Washington, we see statues of Founding Fathers standing and sitting in Masonic poses, we see Greek and Roman architecture in America as opposed to Gothic architecture that was associated with Christianity. The Freemasons were stonemasons, and their symbology was embedded in buildings - and we know that many founding fathers were indeed publicly Masons.

 

With that said, I don't believe that the world is run by a secret club of Satanists. The freemasons are a group, and there are many groups, lobbies, states, and corporations that share the world stage. But, what is undeniable is that this particular fraternity had high-brass membership, and the High Masonic Order had the eye for non-Christian traditions including Islam.

Edited by Qa'im

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Freemasonry in one form or another has been alive for a very long time and it was always intended for the ruling classes.

 

I believe it was first codified in the Greek Mysteries (Inner and Outer).  

 

It existed in Egypt when the Greek ruled there, it existed in Rome with the Mithraic and Sol Invictus cult.

 

Is there anything in particular you want to know about Masonry?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

(bismillah)

(salam) brother ,

 

The Freemasons are a secret society and an international fraternity that originated among European stonemasons between the 14th and 18th centuries. They are an aristocratic response to Christianity and Catholicism in particular, and the group has taken on anti-Christian beliefs, rituals, and symbols. At its core, Freemasonry is monotheistic (believing in one God or one Higher Power), deistic (God does not interfere in the creation), and naturalistic (no belief in spirits). Freemasonry hit the height of its popularity in the 19th and 20th centuries, which coincided with modernism and the rise of secular ideologies.

 

The mystery schools have been around since the beginning of time , free masonry is a modern version made popular with conspiracy theorists and new agers.Your  description of free masonry is very basic and is applicable to the masses and lower levels of the society. It is a savvy PR psy- ops narrative to take you away from the truth.

Shall we go back to the beginning , 

 

Shakir: And He taught Adam all the names, then presented them to the angels; then He said: Tell me the names of those if you are right. (2:31)

 

 

the mystery schools seek divine knowledge , which is mostly hidden and passed down through secret societies.

There exist 2 groups of such secret societies ,  one that believes that :Iblees was the chosen one , a high ranking angel , and blame :Nabi-Adam (as) was the one that removed him from his high post .The other which believes that :Iblees is the accursed :Shaitan and an open enemy to mankind , he is a :Jinn , and is damned to hell.

The first group favouring :ibless as the chosen one is made of most of the secret societies of today , with all the high 33rd degree masters occupying all the top positions in commerce , banking , religion , business and entertainment.

The second group is the most secret of the secret societies , which is hidden from everyone's reach , and has a very selective closed membership limited to 313 , and their master is the best of the best of all creation :Al-Hujjat (as) .

 

The group is secret, so it communicates via symbols and numerology. Those in the fraternity cannot reveal their secrets to non-members. Since they are "masons", much of their symbolism is hidden in the architecture of cities and buildings. The Freemasons have Lodges, where they meet for activities. Though the Freemasons are still around in large number, it is not taken as seriously in post-modern times - it's become more of a family tradition for many people.

 

Their sacred architecture and numerology is not so hidden , but most don't understand such things. as this knowledge is not taught in schools , universities or centres of learning . They use such codes and language to communicate with each other amongst the :Jinn and men .

 

Nonetheless, Freemasonry was an opponent of Christianity, and so certain non-Christian (or anti-Christian) symbols and practices were adopted into their secret order. This included some Muslim terms and symbols, as the "Mohammedans" were the main enemies of Christian Europe. The adoption of Arabic pass words (terms like salaam alaykum), Islamic symbols (moon and star), and Middle Eastern apparel (the fez, the regalia) was all of the Edward Said-esque orientalism and obsession with the Eastern non-Christian "other". These superficial representations of "Islam" were an avant-garde expression of the secret society - a way to peacock their distinction while simultaneously angering devout Christians with their Mohammedan otherness.

 

Christianity and all other religions including Islam ( the religion and not the :Deen ) is a creation of these secret societies , to keep the lower levels and the masses away from the truth .

Within the Bible  exists codes and hidden meanings which can only be understood by the high degree masters.

The lower degree and the masses are given this current version , which is far from the truth .

 

 

In 1870, the "Moslem Shriners" were founded. The Shriners are an appendant body to the Freemasons - meaning, it is a sub-group. Every Shriner is a Freemason, but not every Freemason is a Shriner. This sub-group was founded after Freemason trips to Algeria and Egypt, where Masons were invited to the parties of Arabian dignitaries. These parties were spectacular, and Arabian culture seemed so fascinating, so upon the Masons' return to the United States, they founded the Moslem Shriners. The Shriners are a group dedicated to men's entertainment, and so they would hold parades, circuses, and festivals. They opened up hundreds of "Temples" across North America. The Shriners still exist today, but the group now is almost exclusively an entertainment group. However, historically, it seemed to be much more than that.

 

The United States was established as a secularist state by white male aristocrats - many of whom were members of the Freemasons and other similar non-Christian secret society. Without going into too much detail, you can find symbols of Freemasonry all over Washington and U.S currency.

 

The Freemasons long had an interest in the Muslim world - hence the depictions of pyramids on U.S currency and the Egyptian-style obelisk we call the Washington Monument. We also find pagan symbols, such as the statue of Persephone, the all-seeing eye of Ra, and the pentagram shape of the city centre.

 

 

we have many so called muslim leaders who are 33 rd degree high ranking masons , including Saddam , Yasser Arafat , King Abdullah II of Jordan ,  the Saudi King Abdullah .

 

These obelisks  represents :Iblees their master , which is located at very powerful  lay line and power matrix , the city of London ( Financial power ) , Vatican ( spiritual power ) , and Washington DC , ( military power ) .

You will also find such obelisks in Mecca , and as part of the :Hajj ceremony , must be stoned as it represents :Shaitan .

Today the Saudi king has protected his master by building a wall around the 3 obelisks.

He has also put plans to make the :Kabba in the all seeing eye from above , in order to serve his real master :Iblees.

 

 

With that said, I don't believe that the world is run by a secret club of Satanists. The freemasons are a group, and there are many groups, lobbies, states, and corporations that share the world stage. But, what is undeniable is that this particular fraternity had high-brass membership, and the High Masonic Order had the eye for non-Christian traditions including Islam.

 

 

this is exactly what they want you to think .

 

ws

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by :Sami II

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The second group is the most secret of the secret societies , which is hidden from everyone's reach , and has a very selective closed membership limited to 313 , and their master is the best of the best of all creation :Al-Hujjat (as) .

The Holy Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.w) is the greatest of all mankind, and after that comes Imaam Alee' (a.s).

Edited by DaBeast313

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The Holy Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.w) is the greatest of all mankind, and after that comes Imaam Alee' (a.s).

than  :Imam Hasan ibn Ali (as)

:Imam Hussain ibn Ali (as)

:Imam Zain ul Abideen ibn Hussain (as)

:Imam Baqir ibn Zain ul Abideen (as)

:Imam Jafar as Sadiq ibn Baqir (as) 

:Imam Musa Kadim ibn Jafar (as)

:Imam Ali Reda ibn Musa Kadim (as)

:Imam At-Taqi ibn Ali Reda (as)

:Imam An-Naqi ibn At-Taqi (as)

:Imam Hasan Askari ibn An-Naqi (as)

and finally :Imam Mahdi ibn Hasan Askari (as), may :Allah swt hasten his reappearance .

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Freemasonry in one form or another has been alive for a very long time and it was always intended for the ruling classes.

 

I believe it was first codified in the Greek Mysteries (Inner and Outer).  

 

It existed in Egypt when the Greek ruled there, it existed in Rome with the Mithraic and Sol Invictus cult.

 

Is there anything in particular you want to know about Masonry?

For starters, tell us the Freemasons' relation with Islam.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
There are many reasons why Freemasons have a fascination with the Orient, after all, the Light/Enlightment comes from the East. 

The Temple of Solomon (A very important icon) is supposed to be in Jerusalem; Hiram Abiff (The widow's son) was from Tyre. 

 

The Arabs translated much Greek work and their knowledge and culture became very advanced; the Crusaders were amazed by the culture they encountered and brought back much Arab work to study.

 

Little known but a very influential Book was  "Kitab Ustuqus al-Uss al-Thani" (Second Book of the Elements of Foundation) attributed to Jabir ibn Hayyan.

The Smaragdine Tablet (part of the book) was first translated into Latin in the twelfth century;  the text is also in an enlarged thirteenth century edition of Secretum Secretorum (also known as Kitab Sirr al-Asrar). 

 

A translation by Isaac Newton is found among his alchemical papers that are currently housed in King's College Library, Cambridge University.

(copied from Wikipedia)

 

Tis true without lying, certain & most true.

That which is below is like that which is above & that which is above is like that which is below to do the miracles of one only thing

And as all things have been & arose from one by the mediation of one: so all things have their birth from this one thing by adaptation.

The Sun is its father, the moon its mother, the wind hath carried it in its belly, the earth is its nurse.

The father of all perfection in the whole world is here.

Its force or power is entire if it be converted into earth.

Separate thou the earth from the fire, the subtle from the gross sweetly with great industry.

It ascends from the earth to the heaven & again it descends to the earth & receives the force of things superior & inferior.

By this means you shall have the glory of the whole world

& thereby all obscurity shall fly from you.

Its force is above all force. For it vanquishes every subtle thing & penetrates every solid thing.

So was the world created.

 

 

It is said that if you can answer the riddle you have found one of the "pillar" secrets of  Masonry. :P

 

 

Later on, early in the 20th century it was almost a duty to visit the Orient in search of enlightenment; some of these visitors made friends with the locals and even funded some Lodges.

 

Sorry, I have gone on for too long and I risk boring you; but although conspiracy theories also abound these are some of the "down to earth" reasons.

 

Wslm

*

Edited by Quisant

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I haven't read your whole post Qa'im, but there is a very good independently publish treatise by an affiliate of the Bektashi Order which discusses how Freemasons and Shriners have misappropriated Bektashi and Sufi Islamic symbols

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

than  :Imam Hasan ibn Ali (as):Imam Hussain ibn Ali (as):Imam Zain ul Abideen ibn Hussain (as):Imam Baqir ibn Zain ul Abideen (as):Imam Jafar as Sadiq ibn Baqir (as) :Imam Musa Kadim ibn Jafar (as):Imam Ali Reda ibn Musa Kadim (as):Imam At-Taqi ibn Ali Reda (as):Imam An-Naqi ibn At-Taqi (as):Imam Hasan Askari ibn An-Naqi (as)and finally :Imam Mahdi ibn Hasan Askari (as), may :Allah swt hasten his reappearance .

Actually they are all equal (the Imaams after Imaam Alee' [a.s]), although I have heard that Imaam al-Hasan bin Alee' (a.s) and Imaam al-Mahdee al-Hujjah (a.s) are higher.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Interesting topic.

You might also look into Jamal ad-Din al-Afghani, one of the most prominent mason member  and the founder and shaper of modern Islamic political system and awareness:
He travelled to Constantinople, passing through Cairo on his way there. He stayed in Cairo long enough to meet a young student who would become a devoted disciple of his, Muhammad 'Abduh.[19] He entered Star of East Masonic Lodge in 7 July 1868 during staying in Cairo.[20] His membership number was 1355. He also founded the Masonic Lodge of Cairo and became first Grand Master of it. He had been excluded from the Scottish Masonic Lodge due to accusations of atheism and he joined the French Grand Orient and became Grand Master of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_ad-Din_al-Afghani


And his student and Mufti of Egypt and publisher of Sunni commentary on Nahj al-Balaghah, Muhammad Abduh:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaykh_Muhammad_%27Abduh#Freemason

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes, al-Afghani was a proponent of this naturalist Islam - that jinn were germs, angels were the wind, etc. We also find similar ideas among the Ahmadiyya. The British occupation of India brought in the "religion vs. science" dynamic from Europe, so some scholars and movements felt the need to fit Islam with a naturalistic modernist scientific worldview. Another big proponent of this naturalist Islam was W.D. Fard, the founder of the black natonalist Nation of Islam, who most academics now trace back to India. He said that God was power and force, whites were devils, etc. He too was probably a freemason at some point.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The Shriners were founded in 1870 in New York, as a "fun" order of Freemasonry. The Arab and Islamic flourishes were not meant seriously, but were adopted as exotic trappings--sort of like dressing up for Halloween. (Today they realize that this is problematic.) For many years the Shriners were famous mainly for drinking, so the leadership decided that in order to build a better public image, they would start supporting children's hospitals and burn centers. Today this is one of their main activities.

 

A lot of nonsense has been written about the Freemasons. The earliest evidence of them comes from 15th century London, which may well be when and where they originated. Men of all religions are admitted. There are three main components of lodge life: social (e.g., dinners), charitable, and ritual. This last category--three initiation rituals that are continually reenacted (you can look them up on the internet)--is considered moral and symbolic, not religious. A number of independent organizations are open only to Masons, and have their own activities and traditions. The Shriners is one example, others would be the York Rite and Scottish Rite.

 

For those who suspect them of secretly controlling the world, I happen to know that the Masons have been shrinking / aging for decades (probably due to competition from TV, the internet, etc.).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The Shriners were founded in 1870 in New York, as a "fun" order of Freemasonry. The Arab and Islamic flourishes were not meant seriously, but were adopted as exotic trappings--sort of like dressing up for Halloween. (Today they realize that this is problematic.) For many years the Shriners were famous mainly for drinking, so the leadership decided that in order to build a better public image, they would start supporting children's hospitals and burn centers. Today this is one of their main activities.

 

A lot of nonsense has been written about the Freemasons. The earliest evidence of them comes from 15th century London, which may well be when and where they originated. Men of all religions are admitted. There are three main components of lodge life: social (e.g., dinners), charitable, and ritual. This last category--three initiation rituals that are continually reenacted (you can look them up on the internet)--is considered moral and symbolic, not religious. A number of independent organizations are open only to Masons, and have their own activities and traditions. The Shriners is one example, others would be the York Rite and Scottish Rite.

 

For those who suspect them of secretly controlling the world, I happen to know that the Masons have been shrinking / aging for decades (probably due to competition from TV, the internet, etc.).

oddly enough, this is the most accurate thing that's been written about them here!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

In the west, wisdom always comes from the East. Even during the ancient greeks & the roman empire there was a respect for religion from the east, most notably from Persia. The roman military had secret brotherhoods wherein they went through different initiations in the Mysteries of Mithras & many of the greek philosophers attributed the beginning of wisdom itself to the persian prophet Zoroaster.

In our days, intellectuals such as Frithjof Schuon or Rene Guenon actually converted into Islam after they've been studying ancient platonic philosophy more & more

 

The secret societies want to educate individuals in the sense that they want the individual initiated to reach God - the purpose of initiation itself. These orders appeared in the west after the reformation & have their roots in the Knights Templar & probably in Sufi Tariqas they came across while participating the Crusade.

 

Inside these secret societies they are staging "play's"; people dress up in costumes etc & an unknowing / unprepared "initiate" who doesn't know what will happen is suddenly in a room full of people dressed like Builders of the Temple of Solomon as with the freemasons or Muslims as with the shriners. The initiate is questioned & certain phrases or "words of power" is used by the already initiated, who participate in this "play" in order to imprint into the subconscious mind of the initiate a certain subject which the initiate will then be drawn to explore up until he will eventually go through another initiation into the next level.

 

It's similar to hypnosis, but not the same.

 

Either way, it's harmless

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Can Muslims become Freemasons?

Masonry is definitely open to Muslims.  The requirement to believe in God is written in such a way that it sounds almost Islamic.  Masons refer to Allah (s w t) in terms that describe Him as being ineffible, infinite in perfection and wisdom...

 

There are some scholars and clerics who say that out of caution one should not join, but the reason for that is largely because Masonic rituals and so forth are secret.  I can tell you this: there is nothing un Islamic in them.  They point to the universe as being proof of the Creator, and they explain things in allegories.  The whole allegory of Masonry is a system of degrees presented essentially in the Hiram Abiff legend.  It's a morality tale.  Hiram Abiff is the every man and he is at work in building the temple of Suleiman (as) when he is killed.  He is killed because he refuses to break his oaths and betray the trusts he has been given.  The moral of the story is that we are all building our own spiritual edifice and we will be judged for what we do in this life by the criteria of our individual faiths.  Freemasonry is not a religion.  It does not offer a plan for salvation.  It is merely a social fraternity built on the concepts of faith, charity, and brotherly love.

 

I am almost reluctant to admit as much because of how much misinformation there is out there, but if you or anyone has questions, I am a Freemason as well, and I will be happy to answer them.  It is not a religion.  It is open to all who believe in God (Masons don't specify anything beyond general ways to describe Him so that they can be inclusive of the three monotheistic faiths).  You'd be amazed how much dawah a Muslim can make in a place like that.  Years ago, like centuries ago, Masonic ritual was strictly Christian, but as the fraternity grew local jurisdictions adapted it to suit their needs.  Masonry can be well understood as a reaction to the "enlightenment" period.  As radicals on the European continent were burning churches and blaming all of society's ills on religion, there were a lot of men who were about the notion of universal equality of humankind under God who refused to let faith be removed from the public space, so they held onto it.  Many American masons say "freedom of religion does not mean freedom from religion."

 

Anyway, I will answer any questions so long as they aren't conspiratorial.  Anyone who believes the conspiracy is welcome to come watch us try to plan the annual picnic. 

 

Allah (s w t) knows best.

 

(wasalam)

R

Edited by reisiger

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Masonry is definitely open to Muslims.  The requirement to believe in God is written in such a way that it sounds almost Islamic.  Masons refer to Allah (s w t) in terms that describe Him as being ineffible, infinite in perfection and wisdom...

 

There are some scholars and clerics who say that out of caution one should not join, but the reason for that is largely because Masonic rituals and so forth are secret.  I can tell you this: there is nothing un Islamic in them.  They point to the universe as being proof of the Creator, and they explain things in allegories.  The whole allegory of Masonry is a system of degrees presented essentially in the Hiram Abiff legend.  It's a morality tale.  Hiram Abiff is the every man and he is at work in building the temple of Suleiman (as) when he is killed.  He is killed because he refuses to break his oaths and betray the trusts he has been given.  The moral of the story is that we are all building our own spiritual edifice and we will be judged for what we do in this life by the criteria of our individual faiths.  Freemasonry is not a religion.  It does not offer a plan for salvation.  It is merely a social fraternity built on the concepts of faith, charity, and brotherly love.

 

I am almost reluctant to admit as much because of how much misinformation there is out there, but if you or anyone has questions, I am a Freemason as well, and I will be happy to answer them.  It is not a religion.  It is open to all who believe in God (Masons don't specify anything beyond general ways to describe Him so that they can be inclusive of the three monotheistic faiths).  You'd be amazed how much dawah a Muslim can make in a place like that.  Years ago, like centuries ago, Masonic ritual was strictly Christian, but as the fraternity grew local jurisdictions adapted it to suit their needs.  Masonry can be well understood as a reaction to the "enlightenment" period.  As radicals on the European continent were burning churches and blaming all of society's ills on religion, there were a lot of men who were about the notion of universal equality of humankind under God who refused to let faith be removed from the public space, so they held onto it.  Many American masons say "freedom of religion does not mean freedom from religion."

 

Anyway, I will answer any questions so long as they aren't conspiratorial.  Anyone who believes the conspiracy is welcome to come watch us try to plan the annual picnic. 

 

Allah (s w t) knows best.

 

(wasalam)

R

Thanks dawg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't know if the mods would want to move this thread, but since Freemasonry is a fraternity and is not a religion or a sect, maybe this should be in the Brothers forum (because only men can become masons)?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  

×