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On a second thought, I don't think you should immunize yourself or your kids. I doubt your survival would be of any benefit to humanity anyways :lol:

My life and that of my family's  exist only for the pleasure of my beloved :Al-Hujjat (as) .

He may do as he wishes with us , and we are ready to give it up for him at an instant.

The only vaccine I will inject is to keep the parasitical :Sufyani (L) away from infecting me with its diseases  to mankind .

The establishment  in which you so eagerly promote is the legacy of the :Umayyads (L).

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there are many people like Deewan , most likely a medical professional or a student studying to be one .

They use many tricks , including mixing the 2 words , Immunisation with vaccination.

I discuss vacincantion in this thread , not the natural immunisation that the body does in order to protect itself .

Deewan has admitted Vaccines do not always work and do not cease disease .

We all know of the adverse side effects of such things .

Deewan has not answered me , on many of the :Islamic questions regrading the :Haram ingredients in vaccines .

He cannot , because that's not part of the sales pitch , and according to these people , a doctor's word  overrides what :Allah swt commands you to do .

many of such people are arrogant , and seem to think they are gods with power over life and death .

they will pressure most of you to do what they are taught to do .

Vaccination agenda is currently pushed by the medical cabal and governments aggressively these days .

When I was a kid , we had a few shots , now for babies , they have over 63 shots during their childhood .

these protocols are heavily debated even amongst the normal mainstream doctors and health people.

I'm not here to promote the anti -vaxxer agenda , as it will cause problems for you down the path .

You cannot fully participate in the system that mandates such things as vaccines and demand your rights at the same time .

you will not win , as the establishment will make example of you.

In many countries today , they punish you in some ways if you don't prescribe to the agenda .

Soon vaccinations will be forced upon everyone .

So those living in cities etc , you will have no choice , especially those engaged in certain careers or entering schooling etc.

To effectively  exercise your rights and beliefs , which under the :Fatwa , you can , it is best to leave the societies and cities.

To remove yourself from such places , where human rights are violated , toxic :Haram substances forcibly injected into your babies , mandating forced mass medication of tap water with fluoridated  , toxic foods , chemtrails , :Riba infestation , etc etc etc .

This is a warning to my dear brother and sisters , those that are preparing for :Al-Hujjat (as) , if you don't want your babies injected with :Haram toxic substances at gunpoint one day , get out from the cities .



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Bismehe Ta3ala,

Assalam Alikum.

Where should we live brother while we are waiting for Imam zaman (atf)? What are our options?

M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah

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Bismehe Ta3ala,

Assalam Alikum.

Where should we live brother while we are waiting for Imam zaman (atf)? What are our options?

M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah




Live away from cities , as a general rule ( further than a full tank of petrol in a car  ) , say 700+ kms away.

Have land that is sustainable for you and the family , where there is fresh water , safe and private.

good soil with fruits and vegetables and livestock.

Our house is mainly solar powered , with our own rain and bore water, all water is recycled 100%. ( no wastage of water )

We have vegetables and fruit trees.

We have local farmers markets to buy everything else we need .

We eat locally wild caught fish , and have our own free range :Halal meats from local farmers .

Create your own community , start with your family.

And together prepare for :Al-Hujjat  (as) .

This is how it was many years ago , go back to such a life , and you can still have the modern necessities of WIFI , modern appliances and modern eco friendly sustainable zero carbon footprint  deigned homes .

If there is one plant that you can have that will fulfil all your living needs , from making rope , houses , clothes , food , oils and medicine , will be Hemp.

This is :Allah's swt miracle plant that will save us .

get to know hemp and how to grow this miracle plant .



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Disease        Transmission R       Herd immunity threshold

Diphtheria     Saliva 6–7                      85%

Measles     Airborne 12–18                 83–94%

Mumps    Airborne droplet 4–7          75–86%

Pertussis Airborne droplet 12–17      92–94%

Polio      Fecal-oral route 5–7             80–86%

Rubella     Airborne droplet 5–7         83–85%

Smallpox    Social contact 6–7           83–85%

^ - R0 is the basic reproduction number, or the average number of secondary infectious cases that are produced by a single index case in completely susceptible population.



The proportion of immune individuals in a population above which a disease may no longer persist is the herd immunity threshold. Its value varies with the virulence of the disease, the efficacy of the vaccine, and the contact parameter for the population.[4] No vaccine offers complete protection, but the spread of disease from person to person is much higher in those who remain unvaccinated.[6] It is the general aim of those involved in public health to establish herd immunity in most populations. Complications arise when widespread.



If this is the case , why are the medical cabal , it's doctors , the government and the media forcing 100% vaccinations rates?

The reason is that it is a business , and like all businesses , its not about the welfare of humanity but total 100% monopoly to maximise the $$.

Once again to add to the ever growing no.1 most profitable industry at $711,000,000,000.00.

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Girl left disabled by flu jab wins millions


Saba Button suffers various disabilities as a result of a vacination adminstered to her when she was 11 months old. Her parents Mick and Kirsten Button have today recieved a settlement payout. Source: News Corp Australia

THE parents of a severely disabled Perth girl have received a multi-million-dollar compensation payout to meet her lifelong care needs after a flu vaccination when she was nearly one left her brain damaged and quadriplegic.


Just before her first birthday in April 2010, Saba was given a 0.25ml dose of Fluvax by her doctor. She had severe febrile convulsions and suffered a profound acquired brain injury, leaving her a quadriplegic with limited vision.

In his court orders yesterday, judge Michael Barker said her disabilities had been caused by the vaccination, leaving her with a shortened life expectancy and requiring 24-hour care for life.

Days after Saba was vaccinated, Dr Hames suspended the Fluvax program. Dozens of children had been taken to hospital with adverse reactions to the vaccine.


An independent inquiry later found, though, there had been a “serious deficiency” by the Health Department in reporting the problems and delays in acting. The drug was also banned nationally for children under five.


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Gardasil’s Birthday Blues: June 8, 2006 – June 8, 2014

June 8th, is an especially auspicious day; it’s the eighth anniversary of the U.S. FDA approving the first HPV vaccine, Merck and Company’s Gardasil®.

index.jpgCatherine J. Frompovich 
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Along with December 7, 1941, which is known as a “day that will live in infamy,” [1] perhaps Gardasil’s approval date, June 8, 2006, should become another day of infamy, especially for the medical profession and the pharmaceutical industry. Why? Because, in this writer’s opinion, the HPV vaccine ‘concept’ has amounted to nothing short of a biblical plague for thousands who have been and are being harmed by it, rather than the supposed benefits it’s purported to accrue, which apparently have not been substantiated. 

According to Dr. Joseph Mercola, DO, 
As Bidini points out, this reduction in HPV prevalence can NOT be claimed to be due to the effectiveness of HPV vaccinations. On the contrary, the data clearly shows [sic] that it was the unvaccinated girls in this group that had the best outcome! [5]

According to SaneVax, Inc.’s website, the following Gardasil® statistics are taken from the U.S. CDC’s VAERS reporting system to April 2014: 

Disabled 1,129 
Deaths 165 

Did Not Recover 6,977 
Abnormal Pap Smear 570 
Cervical Dysplasia 241 
Cervical Cancer 78 
Life Threatening 627 
Emergency Room 11,562 
Hospitalized 3,614 
Extended Hospital Stay 247 
Serious 4,828 
Adverse Events 34,700




Answer:  1) If there is a probability of having a disease seeking the means to prevent it would be obligatory to the extent the disease can be prevented.
2) As long as the father is not certain that the vaccines contain the substances that would cease diseases which the father claims to be present, he is not allowed to refuse to have his child vaccinated.


Case closed .

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Those brothers and sisters that are on the border to vaccinate or not , here's some articles relating to the real vaccine agendas .
For those that want to prepare for :Al-Hujjat  (as) and protect your babies from this dangerous agenda , please read the following .
There are some on SC that will swear that vaccines are safe and the best thing since slice bread .
But these people have not answered the concerns from the :Islamic-Sharia perceptive nor will they ever , as their  sales pitch doesn't cover such concerns .
The vaccine agenda and establishment is still conducting mass trials till today with fatal results .
As :Shia we should seek real knowledge and faith to protect our babies from such attacks .

Thousands of children in Irish care homes at centre of 'baby graves scandal' were used in secret vaccine trials in the 1930s

  • Scientists secretly gave 2,051 children and babies diphtheria vaccine
  • They were used as guinea pigs for drugs giant Burroughs Wellcome in 1930s
  • Academic Michael Dwyer uncovered shock truth in old medical records
  • He found no evidence of consent, nor of how many died or were affected
  • Comes as Irish PM intervenes from U.S. over scandal of mass baby grave
  • Hundreds of babies are believed to have been buried at former baby home
  • Enda Kenny says he's ordered his officials to examine 'if there are others'


PUBLISHED: 18:17 AEST, 6 June 2014 | UPDATED: 22:49 AEST, 6 June 2014

Scientists secretly vaccinated more than 2,000 children in religious-run homes in suspected illegal drug trials, it emerged today.
Old medical records show that 2,051 children and babies in Irish care homes were given a one-shot diphtheria vaccine for international drugs giant Burroughs Wellcome between 1930 and 1936.
There is no evidence that consent was ever sought, nor any records of how many may have died or suffered debilitating side-effects as a result.
The scandal was revealed as Irish premier, Enda Kenny, ordered ministers to see whether there are more mass baby graves after the discovery that 800 infants may be buried in a septic tank outside a former mother and baby home in Tuam, Co. Galway.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2650475/More-mass-baby-graves-Ireland-Prime-Minister-Enda-Kenny-orders-investigation-memorial-800-dead-babies-planned.html#ixzz348WfG3Lk 

'Forced trials' for vaccines need to be included in inquiry into mother and baby homes


Published 08/06/2014|02:30

JUNIOR Health Minister Kathleen Lynch has called for controversial vaccine trials carried out in mother and baby homes to form part of any forthcoming Government's inquiry into Catholic Church-run institutions.

  • Ms Lynch, who campaigned for children forced to take part in vaccine trials while in State care, said she "hit a brick wall" after a Supreme Court ruling blocked a previous government investigation.
    And she said the new inquiry would be a "waste of time" if it did not investigate the infamous vaccine trials.
    The minister told the Sunday Independent: "What I'll be asking is that whatever investigation that takes place that this should be looked at as well."
    The Government is carrying out a cross-departmental review of mother and baby homes after the shocking revelation that almost 800 babies were buried in an unmarked grave in Tuam, Co Galway.

    - See more at: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/forced-trials-for-vaccines-need-to-be-included-in-inquiry-into-mother-and-baby-homes-30337258.html#sthash.JWGiHyvt.dpuf


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This is a development 

I am not sure how accurate - not just a media bubble- these news are but non the less



Fraud at the CDC uncovered, 340% risk of autism hidden from public






But this is science !


Some vaccines support evolution of more-virulent viruses

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Bombshell: CDC destroyed vaccine documents, Congressman reveals; CDC whistleblower case is back


“…the [CDC] co-authors scheduled a meeting to destroy documents related to the [MMR vaccine] study. The remaining four co-authors all met and brought a big garbage can into the meeting room and reviewed and went through all the hard copy documents that we had thought we should discard and put them in a huge garbage can.” (William Thompson, CDC researcher)


“However, because I [Thompson] assumed it [destroying the documents] was illegal and would violate both FOIA and DOJ requests, I kept hard copies of all documents in my office and I retained all associated computer files. I believe we intentionally withheld controversial findings from the final draft of the Pediatrics paper.”



Breaking News: Congressman Posey On House Floor CDC Authors of 2004 MMR Paper Destroyed Documents


Congressman Bill Posey (R-FL) at 1:02:29   http://www.c-span.org/video/?327309-1/us-house-morning-hour&live=

Thank you Mr. Speaker. I arrive today on matters of research and scientific integrity.  

To begin with, I am absolutely, resolutely pro-vaccine. Advancements in immunization have saved countless lives and have greatly benefited public health.  That being said, it’s troubling to me that in a recent senate hearing on childhood vaccination, it was never mentioned that our government has paid out over three billion dollars through a vaccine injury compensation program for children who have been injured by vaccinations. Regardless of the subject matter, parents making decisions about their children’s health deserve to have the best information available to them. They should be able to count on federal agencies to tell them the truth. 


For these reasons, I bring the following matter to the floor. In August, 2014,  Dr. William Thompson, a senior scientist at the Center for Disease Control and Prevention worked with a whistleblower attorney to provide my office with documents related to a 2004 CDC study that examined the possibility of a relationship between the mumps, measles and rubella vaccines and autism.  In a statement released in August, 2014, Dr. Thompson stated “I regret that my co-authors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the Journal of Pediatrics.” End quote.


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      One of these verses is verse 59 of the surah al-Ahzab: " Or Ilah al-Nabi al-Qarlazwuj and Benatk and Nas al-Momenin Iindenīn Alīān, Ibn al-Jadīn al- eqn-e-dān-e-yarfn-fla-yuzin and khanullah ghafūra rahima " (O Prophet, tell your women and daughters, To cover up, to be known and not to be offended, and Allah is All-Compassionate, Merciful.) 
      It means a national cover; that is, a woman must wear all her body so that she is protected as a gentle flower from the swordsmanship. 
      In Sura Noor, verse 31, too, a great deal of talk about hijab and honoring the unworthy look is spoken.  Concept and dimensions of hijab in the Quran The veil in the word means the barrier, curtain and cover. The use of this word is more than the meaning of the curtain. The word covers the concept that the curtain is a cover, but not every veil, but it is called the cover of the hijab through the back of the curtain. 
      The hijab, meaning ladies' Islamic cover, has two dimensions: a positive and negative one. The positive aspect of it, the necessity of covering the body and its diminutive dimension, is the forbiddenness of being revealed to the non-mahram; and these two dimensions should be together with each other so that Islamic veil can be realized; sometimes it may be the first dimension, but not the second dimension, in this case It can be said that Islamic hijab has been realized. 
      If, in the general sense, we call hijab any cover and impeding the receipt of sin, the hijab can have different types and different types. One kind of this veil is mental, intellectual, and spiritual; for example, belief in Islamic teachings, such as monotheism and prophecy, is one of the examples of the right veil, mental and spiritual, which can lead to sins and sins of mind and mind, such as infidelity And Shrek. 
      In addition, in the Qur'an, there are other types of hijab manifested in man's external behavior, such as hijab and cover in the eyes that men and women are advised in the face of the non-Mahram.  Purpose and philosophy of veil The main purpose of the ordinance of the laws in Islam is to God, which is obtained through the cultivation of self and piety:  إن أكرمكم عند الله أتقكم (حجرات; 13) is magnanimous and most honorable to you with God.
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      He is the God who raised among the people of Ammi (a people who did not know the reading and writing) a great prophet from the same people, to recite God's revelation to them, and purify them (from the ignorance of ignorance and ugly ethics), and the book of celibacy and wisdom In fact, before that, everyone was in a state of ignorance and misguidance. 
      The Holy Qur'an is used for the purpose of securing the divine commandment, the requirement of Islamic hijab, to achieve cultivation of the soul, purity, chastity, and purity. Verses like:  Let us convey the believers' eyes to the unworthy eyes and protect their bodies and their bodies, which is the best of their bodies and their purity.   Eye veil O my Apostle, tell the believing men to put their eyes in vain view.   قل للمؤمنات أضضضان من أبصارهن (نور; 31) Tell the messenger to the believing women to cover their eyes with an unwise look.   Hijab in speech Another type of hijab and cover of the Qur'an is the hijab of women's speech versus non-law:  Falla is a great deal of pain in your heart (parties; 32) So do not talk to men with thin, soft lips; lest you fall asleep (sickness and despair).   Behavioral Hijab Another type of hijab and cover of the Quran is the veil of women's behavior against the non-Islamic. It is instructed that women should not walk in ways that would attract unharmed attention by showing their ornaments.  And let our Lah al-Jahran be tempted to blow us away (Ibn. 31), and they should not foot to the ground to reveal the ankles and their hidden ornaments.
      Of the discussed topics, it is clearly used that the meaning of Islamic hijab is to cover and protect the coexistence of women with nonhuman men in different forms of behavior, such as how to cover, look, talk and walk. 
      Therefore, the veil and cover of a woman is also a constraint and an obstacle to nonhuman individuals who intend to infiltrate and capture the honor of others. There is also the same notion of banning and refusing the lexical roots of chastity;  Veil and chastity The two words "veil" and "chastity" are essentially the meaning of common denial and refusal. The difference between prohibiting and restraining hijab and chastity is the difference between appearance and inwardness; that is, the prohibition and inhibition in the veil is related to appearance, but the prohibition and inhibition in chastity is related to the inner and inner, because chastity is an internal state, However, given that the effect of appearance on the interior and the external impact on appearance is one of the general characteristics of man; therefore, between the veil and the apparent cover, and the chastity and inner restraint of man, is the effect and the mutual influence; so that whatever the veil and the covering The appearance and the better, this type of veil is more effective in enhancing and enhancing the inner and inner mood of chastity, and vice versa, the greater the inner and inner envy of the The veil will look better in the encounter with aliens.  Elderly Women's Hijab The Holy Quran has pointed to this impact in a subtle way. First, it allows elderly women to dress their clothes like a tent against a non-sanctuary without the intention of throwing themselves out, but ultimately says: "If they are sober, it even means clothes like tents." Not better.  And Al-Qawada'm Al-Nawa'ah Al-Naha'ah Al-Fayyid Allah Jinnah, the Prophet of Allah, the Exalted and the Most Merciful,
      In addition to the previous relationship, between the apparel cover and esoteric dignity, the relation between the sign and the sign holder is also; that is, the apparent hijab is a sign of a certain stage of esoteric dignity with the owner of the veil. Of course, this does not mean that every woman who wears a veil and a cover is necessarily of all levels of chastity.  Is hijab an obstacle to all social delinquency? Given this point of view, the answer to these forms and the doubts of those who, for the ineffectiveness of revealing the veil and the apparent cover, is to blame the offenses of some women with hijab, because the problem of these women, the weakness in the inner veil And the lack of strong faith and belief in the positive effects of hijab and apparent cover and has passed since the Islamic veil has a wide dimension, and one of its most important dimensions is the inner and inner veil of the person who faces sin and corruption , It enjoys inner convictions and faith; and, essentially, this veil of mind and ideology, as a foundation stone for other veils, including hijab and p It is apparent, because human thoughts and ideas form their behaviors. 
      Of course, just as hijab and overlays do not necessarily mean all chaos, chastity can not be imagined without observing the apparent cover. One can not deny a woman or a man who appears naked or half naked in public, because we said that the apparent cover is one of the signs and symbols of chastity, and between the amount of chastity and veil, the relationship of influence and affection There is mutual. Some consider the relationship of chastity and veil to be a kind of relationship between root and fruit; the veil, the fruit of chastity, and chastity are the roots of veil. Some people may have apparent veils, but they have not created extraneous chastity. This hijab is the only shell and appearance. On the other hand, people claim to be chastity, and they say, "I have a heart-warming heart, God works with hearts," they entertain themselves; such humans must, in their minds, have to point to the essential thing that is within the pure, external It will cleanse and never purify the heart, it will not induce the fruitless fruit of the wilderness.  See also: Hijab with Fatima Zahra  References: Interpretation books  https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdaneshnameh.roshd.ir%2Fmavara%2Fmavara-index.php%3Fpage%3D%D8%AD%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A8%2B%D8%AF%D8%B1%2B%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%A2%D9%86%26SSOReturnPage%3DCheck%26Rand%3D0&edit-text= http://daneshnameh.roshd.ir/mavara/mavara-index.php?page=حجاب+در+قرآن&SSOReturnPage=Check&Rand=0