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You are probably right that money is one of the motivation for the doctor who fabricated data and lie about a vaccine causing autism. He had an ulterior motive for that. 

 

Read the whole controversy here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_controversy

I am well aware of how mainstream manipulates information and uses disinformation to mislead the masses into more health issues, thus increasing their bottom line. It's it even reported that Imam Ali (as) says that if you're confused about a complicated issue, look to its beginnings. Look into the history of Rockefeller and his allopathic endorsements.

Below, you can hear a bit from Wakefield himself:

 

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I am well aware of how mainstream manipulates information and uses disinformation to mislead the masses into more health issues, thus increasing their bottom line. It's it even reported that Imam Ali (as) says that if you're confused about a complicated issue, look to its beginnings. Look into the history of Rockefeller and his allopathic endorsements.

Below, you can hear a bit from Wakefield himself:

 

I have a question for you dear bro ,

What will you do when one day (probably soon ) when they make it mandatory to vaccinate everyone ?

And your refusal can lead you to prison or worse .

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I have a question for you dear bro ,

What will you do when one day (probably soon ) when they make it mandatory to vaccinate everyone ?

And your refusal can lead you to prison or worse .

That's if they are allowed to do such a thing...I'd look into moving elsewhere.

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My question to you dear bothers and sisters , is the possible risk of death less than the dangers of the possible illness ?

 

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Yes, HPV (which the vaccine protects against) is one of the leading cause of cervical cancer.  In the UK the 5 yr mortality rate for cervical cancer is 33%, meaning a third of people diagnosed with the condition are dead by 5 years

:lol: that's the annoying thing about vaccines, that you get the disease instead of protection, happens allot with flu vaccine.

 

Actually it doesnt happen at all with the flu vaccine.  The flu vaccine can't give you the flu.  http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/misconceptions.htm

 

What can happen is that the vaccine fails (it isnt 100% effective) and you get the flu anyway, but that's different.

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Yes, HPV (which the vaccine protects against) is one of the leading cause of cervical cancer.  In the UK the 5 yr mortality rate for cervical cancer is 33%, meaning a third of people diagnosed with the condition are dead by 5 years

 

Actually it doesnt happen at all with the flu vaccine.  The flu vaccine can't give you the flu.  http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/misconceptions.htm

 

What can happen is that the vaccine fails (it isnt 100% effective) and you get the flu anyway, but that's different.

:lol: still , you get the disease instead of the protection despite vaccination which is annoying

 

 

The MMWR study also found that during seasons when influenza A (H3N2) viruses were prominent death rates were more than double what they were during seasons when influenza A (H1N1) or influenza B viruses predominated. In addition, the study confirmed previous findings that about 90% of influenza associated deaths occur among adults 65 years and older.http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/us_flu-related_deaths.htm

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Influenza vaccines can provide moderate protection against virologically confirmed influenza, but such protection is greatly reduced or absent in some seasons. Evidence for protection in adults aged 65 years or older is lacking. LAIVs consistently show highest efficacy in young children (aged 6 months to 7 years). New vaccines with improved clinical efficacy and effectiveness are needed to further reduce influenza-related morbidity and mortality.http://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(11)70295-X/abstract

 

http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/04/02/smallpox-declared-eradicated-while-still-alive-and-well-by-viera-scheibner-phd/

I would have gone through this article and investigate what was written regarding smallpox vaccination but i am short on access to scientific papers, if anyone is able to look into it, that is if anyone is interested.

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Yes, HPV (which the vaccine protects against) is one of the leading cause of cervical cancer.  In the UK the 5 yr mortality rate for cervical cancer is 33%, meaning a third of people diagnosed with the condition are dead by 5 years

 

Actually it doesnt happen at all with the flu vaccine.  The flu vaccine can't give you the flu.  http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/misconceptions.htm

 

What can happen is that the vaccine fails (it isnt 100% effective) and you get the flu anyway, but that's different.

A good diet , plenty of exercise , no stress , :Salaat , :Duas and a pure unshakable faith in :Allah swt , will prevent you getting most diseases.

If that fails , there is a solution which you can order online for less than $20 , that can kill this virus and any other cancer causing virus or any other pathogens.

And if you still need more ammo , :Salatul-Layl and :Dua-Joshen-Khabir .

Guaranteed 100% success , no  life threatening side effects and it's free.

That's if they are allowed to do such a thing...I'd look into moving elsewhere.

CDC has already given us notice , all it takes is a false flag pandemic to bring in such laws .

And if they did , borders will be closed , therefore your option of movement will be restricted , especially those opting out or trying to escape forced vaccinations .

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CDC has already given us notice , all it takes is a false flag pandemic to bring in such laws .

And if they did , borders will be closed , therefore your option of movement will be restricted , especially those opting out or trying to escape forced vaccinations .

I don't know about all that! It seems a little far-fetched. I don't see it happening in the near future, and if it does, expect massive protests. It won't be an easy win for the government, I think.

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I don't know about all that! It seems a little far-fetched. I don't see it happening in the near future, and if it does, expect massive protests. It won't be an easy win for the government, I think.

 

Autism advocates are set to protest tomorrow against a quiet effort by Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s administration to require annual flu vaccinations for all New York City schoolchildren under 5 years of age.

On Wednesday, with just three weeks to go until he leaves office, Mr. Bloomberg’s controversial Board of Health is set to vote on new rules that would force children as young as six months old to be immunized each year before December 31 if they attend licensed day care or pre-school programs.

Read more at http://observer.com/2013/12/protest-planned-against-last-minute-bloomberg-push-for-mandatory-flu-vaccines/#ixzz303tyf9EC 

 

this is just the beginning 

 

Incorporating Research and Evaluation into Pandemic Influenza Vaccination Preparedness and Response

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/20/4/14-0224_article.htm

 

 

Natural Solutions Foundation

Your right to Self-Quarantine and Self-Shield in the event of an actual pandemic is threatened by the WHO’s recent declaration that the “Swine Flu” was now a “Level 6″ pandemic [this required a change in the definition of a "Level 6" pandemic]. Such a declaration triggers all sorts of bureaucratic prerogatives and potentially dangerous “Medical Emergency Powers Act” and other controls over our lives, including mandatory, uninsurable vaccinations without protection for religious and other objections.

Therefore, we have drafted a model bill to further the Right to Self-Shield (of which Self-Quarantine is a subset — you self-shield to avoid exposure to a pandemic pathogen; self-quarantine if exposed). We detailed the legal basis for this Right in our White Paper: “Stay Home – Stay Alive” at http://drrimatruthreports.com/?p=2752.

Ralph Fucetola JD, Counsel

Natural Solutions Foundation Trustee

www.HealthFreedomUSA.org

———————————— Draft 2.2

H.R. ________: To amend the Homeland Security Act of 2002 and the Project BioShield Act of 2004 concerning the use of Federal funds, self-quarantine and self-shielding

HR _______

111th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. _______

To amend the Homeland Security Act of 2002 and the Project BioShield Act of 2004 concerning the use of Federal funds, self-quarantine and self-shielding, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

June _____, 2009

[Co-Sponsors]

________________________________________

A BILL

To amend the Homeland Security Act of 2002 and the Project BioShield Act of 2004 concerning the use of Federal funds, self-quarantine and self-shielding, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ‘Protecting Americans’ Self-Shielding Act’ – the Protecting Americans Act.

SEC. 2. DEFINITIONS.

1. A ‘declaration of pandemic emergency’ under this Act shall include any declaration of pandemic or similar medical emergency by any International, National, Regional, State or Local authorities, including a “Level 6” pandemic declaration by the World Health Organization.

2. ‘Self-quarantine’ is when an individual, group or family chooses to temporarily remain at home or other voluntarily chosen location, after exposure to a pathogen.

3. ‘Self-shielding’ is when an individual, group or family chooses to temporarily remain at home or other voluntarily chosen location, to avoid exposure to a pathogen.

SEC. 3. CONGRESSIONAL FINDINGS REGARDING SELF-QUARANTINE (SELF-SHIELDING).

The Congress of the United States has determined:

1. The common law practice of voluntarily self-quarantining or self-shielding in the event of a declaration of pandemic emergency is the preferred public health response to such pandemic.

2. The right of the people to self-quarantine or self-shield should not be abridged by any governmental authority.

3. Self-quarantine or self-shield is a reasonable alternative to mandatory inoculations with uninsurable vaccinations.

SEC. 4. PROTECTION FOR SELF-QUARANTINE (SELF-SHIELDING).

In the event of any declaration of pandemic emergency, nothing in Federal law or regulation shall be interpreted by any agency of the United States, or any Court thereof, to forbid self-shielding or self-quarantine at home, nor shall any Federal funds, or materials, supplies, and support materials purchased with Federal funds be expended to remove any person involuntarily from his or her home, place of residence, school, work or other location in order to prevent or interfere with self-shielding or self-quarantine. The Armed Forces of the United States, their agents or any agent of the US Government, Department of Homeland Security, any Department of Public Health, State or local authorities, shall not remove any person involuntarily from his or her home or other location voluntarily chosen for self-shielding or self-quarantine while such person is self-shielding or under self-quarantine.

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I don't know about all that! It seems a little far-fetched. I don't see it happening in the near future, and if it does, expect massive protests. It won't be an easy win for the government, I think.

It is the law that i believe is accepted in almost all nations, even in Imam Ali's government this law was practiced. If the individual right can affect negatively the masses then the individual law shall be sacrificed sometimes even without a refund. (Although the case of Imam Ali is very different than this case but the same principle was used).

 

Well, this might be the most responsible post i'd ever make online. The vaccines might be effective (and this sentence can be taken in both positive and negative way) but it is often not about efficacy of vaccine but out our sense of responsibility (what if i vaccinated my child). I saw two cases one of polio, the child is paralyzed from neck to toes and the other is of whooping cough. The whooping cough was in child whose time of vaccine did not come yet, he was hospitalized, needed CT (very expensive test) needed an ICU in advanced hospital which is not something affordable for everyone today. Even Du'a that is certainly effective cannot be prescribed for everyone. We come with genetic readiness and spirituality readiness, our spirituality dose not improve with every update like windows updates. These diseases can be devastating and can kill the child, the guilt and the burden of being sinner even by not doing what was affordable to save a life is unbearable.

 

http://www.veomed.com/grandrounds/archive&vid=957749&gnr=538311

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CDC's lies on the Swine Flu pandemic 
 
JON RAPPOPORT: In 2009, you spearheaded coverage of the so-called Swine Flu pandemic. You discovered that, in the summer of 2009, the Centers for Disease Control, ignoring their federal mandate, stopped counting Swine Flu cases in America. Yet they continued to stir up fear about the “pandemic,” without having any real measure of its impact. Wasn’t that another investigation of yours that was shut down? Wasn’t there more to find out?

SHARYL ATTKISSON: The implications of the story were even worse than that. We discovered through our FOI efforts that before the CDC mysteriously stopped counting Swine Flu cases, they had learned that almost none of the cases they had counted as Swine Flu was, in fact, Swine Flu or any sort of flu at all! The interest in the story from one executive was very enthusiastic. He said it was “the most original story” he’d seen on the whole Swine Flu epidemic. But others pushed to stop it and, in the end, no broadcast wanted to touch it. We aired numerous stories pumping up the idea of an epidemic, but not the one that would shed original, new light on all the hype. It was fair, accurate, legally approved and a heck of a story. With the CDC keeping the true Swine Flu stats secret, it meant that many in the public took and gave their children an experimental vaccine that may not have been necessary.

 
http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/04/26/aftershocks-from-my-interview-with-sharyl-attkisson/
 
If you've been diagnosed "probable" or "presumed" 2009 H1N1 or "swine flu" in recent months, you may be surprised to know this: odds are you didn't have H1N1 flu. 

In fact, you probably didn't have flu at all. That's according to state-by-state test results obtained in a three-month-long CBS News investigation.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/swine-flu-cases-overestimated/

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The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has known for years that vaccine use and over-reliance on antibiotics cause unstoppable super bugs, and now evidence of this phenomenon is happening in Australia. The bacterium that causes whooping cough, Bordetella petrussis, is morphing into a superbug most likely caused by vaccine use, and is turning into a strain that can no longer be controlled with vaccines

 

 

The study is published in the scientific journal Emerging Infectious Diseases

 

“It’s like a game of hide and seek.
It is harder for the antibodies made by the body’s immune system in response to vaccination to ‘search and destroy’ the whooping cough bacteria which lack pertactin
,” says the senior author of the study, Associate Professor Ruiting Lan, of the UNSW School of Biotechnology and Biomolecular Sciences.

http://beforeitsnews.com/health/2014/04/whooping-cough-morphing-into-superbug-due-to-vaccine-use-in-australia-2532406.html

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Autism advocates are set to protest tomorrow against a quiet effort by Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s administration to require annual flu vaccinations for all New York City schoolchildren under 5 years of age.

On Wednesday, with just three weeks to go until he leaves office, Mr. Bloomberg’s controversial Board of Health is set to vote on new rules that would force children as young as six months old to be immunized each year before December 31 if they attend licensed day care or pre-school programs.

Read more at http://observer.com/2013/12/protest-planned-against-last-minute-bloomberg-push-for-mandatory-flu-vaccines/#ixzz303tyf9EC 

 

this is just the beginning 

 

Incorporating Research and Evaluation into Pandemic Influenza Vaccination Preparedness and Response

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/20/4/14-0224_article.htm

 

 

Natural Solutions Foundation

Your right to Self-Quarantine and Self-Shield in the event of an actual pandemic is threatened by the WHO’s recent declaration that the “Swine Flu” was now a “Level 6″ pandemic [this required a change in the definition of a "Level 6" pandemic]. Such a declaration triggers all sorts of bureaucratic prerogatives and potentially dangerous “Medical Emergency Powers Act” and other controls over our lives, including mandatory, uninsurable vaccinations without protection for religious and other objections.

Therefore, we have drafted a model bill to further the Right to Self-Shield (of which Self-Quarantine is a subset — you self-shield to avoid exposure to a pandemic pathogen; self-quarantine if exposed). We detailed the legal basis for this Right in our White Paper: “Stay Home – Stay Alive” at http://drrimatruthreports.com/?p=2752.

Ralph Fucetola JD, Counsel

Natural Solutions Foundation Trustee

www.HealthFreedomUSA.org

———————————— Draft 2.2

H.R. ________: To amend the Homeland Security Act of 2002 and the Project BioShield Act of 2004 concerning the use of Federal funds, self-quarantine and self-shielding

HR _______

111th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. _______

To amend the Homeland Security Act of 2002 and the Project BioShield Act of 2004 concerning the use of Federal funds, self-quarantine and self-shielding, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

June _____, 2009

[Co-Sponsors]

________________________________________

A BILL

To amend the Homeland Security Act of 2002 and the Project BioShield Act of 2004 concerning the use of Federal funds, self-quarantine and self-shielding, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ‘Protecting Americans’ Self-Shielding Act’ – the Protecting Americans Act.

SEC. 2. DEFINITIONS.

1. A ‘declaration of pandemic emergency’ under this Act shall include any declaration of pandemic or similar medical emergency by any International, National, Regional, State or Local authorities, including a “Level 6” pandemic declaration by the World Health Organization.

2. ‘Self-quarantine’ is when an individual, group or family chooses to temporarily remain at home or other voluntarily chosen location, after exposure to a pathogen.

3. ‘Self-shielding’ is when an individual, group or family chooses to temporarily remain at home or other voluntarily chosen location, to avoid exposure to a pathogen.

SEC. 3. CONGRESSIONAL FINDINGS REGARDING SELF-QUARANTINE (SELF-SHIELDING).

The Congress of the United States has determined:

1. The common law practice of voluntarily self-quarantining or self-shielding in the event of a declaration of pandemic emergency is the preferred public health response to such pandemic.

2. The right of the people to self-quarantine or self-shield should not be abridged by any governmental authority.

3. Self-quarantine or self-shield is a reasonable alternative to mandatory inoculations with uninsurable vaccinations.

SEC. 4. PROTECTION FOR SELF-QUARANTINE (SELF-SHIELDING).

In the event of any declaration of pandemic emergency, nothing in Federal law or regulation shall be interpreted by any agency of the United States, or any Court thereof, to forbid self-shielding or self-quarantine at home, nor shall any Federal funds, or materials, supplies, and support materials purchased with Federal funds be expended to remove any person involuntarily from his or her home, place of residence, school, work or other location in order to prevent or interfere with self-shielding or self-quarantine. The Armed Forces of the United States, their agents or any agent of the US Government, Department of Homeland Security, any Department of Public Health, State or local authorities, shall not remove any person involuntarily from his or her home or other location voluntarily chosen for self-shielding or self-quarantine while such person is self-shielding or under self-quarantine.

 

Are they making mandatory flu vaccines for the homeschooled kids? If not, I would boycott the indoctrinating schools.

It is the law that i believe is accepted in almost all nations, even in Imam Ali's government this law was practiced. If the individual right can affect negatively the masses then the individual law shall be sacrificed sometimes even without a refund. (Although the case of Imam Ali is very different than this case but the same principle was used).

 

Well, this might be the most responsible post i'd ever make online. The vaccines might be effective (and this sentence can be taken in both positive and negative way) but it is often not about efficacy of vaccine but out our sense of responsibility (what if i vaccinated my child). I saw two cases one of polio, the child is paralyzed from neck to toes and the other is of whooping cough. The whooping cough was in child whose time of vaccine did not come yet, he was hospitalized, needed CT (very expensive test) needed an ICU in advanced hospital which is not something affordable for everyone today. Even Du'a that is certainly effective cannot be prescribed for everyone. We come with genetic readiness and spirituality readiness, our spirituality dose not improve with every update like windows updates. These diseases can be devastating and can kill the child, the guilt and the burden of being sinner even by not doing what was affordable to save a life is unbearable.

 

http://www.veomed.com/grandrounds/archive&vid=957749&gnr=538311

I don't know what you were getting at in the first paragraph. Please clarify what it is that you meant.

As for the excuse of illnesses/ailments pre-vaccination era, tell me, what was the underlying issue? Was the body lacking vaccines or nutrition? Doesn't sanitation have any affect on illnesses? This is why I don't readily accept mainstream news. Alhamdulillah, I have come a long way to understand that there is more at stake here than just making sure everyone is well/fit. In shaa'llah more and more people will see this in due time.

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Sorry for being unclear. I was trying to say that in case of an outbreak, a government has the right to oblige you or compel you to get the vaccine. Check the link above, it discusses different medico legal cases of exemptions that were not granted. In case of a real threat, an individual right or property might be sacrificed against their will and no payment is given in compensation, this is almost a universal law. If influenza threat is real, the government has the right to force treatment or other extreme measures on the individuals.

 


I don't know what you were getting at in the first paragraph. Please clarify what it is that you meant.
 

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Sorry for being unclear. I was trying to say that in case of an outbreak, a government has the right to oblige you or compel you to get the vaccine. Check the link above, it discusses different medico legal cases of exemptions that were not granted. In case of a real threat, an individual right or property might be sacrificed against their will and no payment is given in compensation, this is almost a universal law. If influenza threat is real, the government has the right to force treatment or other extreme measures on the individuals.

Okay, I agree that the government's today can be very crooked. I don't know what that has to do with Imam Ali (as) and his government. The criminals that run the governments these days are NOTHING compared to our Imam's governing.

Technically, if the government wants, they can even steal/detain our women, but I don't see that happening in the near future.

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Okay, I agree that the government's today can be very crooked. I don't know what that has to do with Imam Ali (as) and his government. The criminals that run the governments these days are NOTHING compared to our Imam's governing.

Technically, if the government wants, they can even steal/detain our women, but I don't see that happening in the near future.

They do this everyday .

When a sister dies where the coroner deems it necessary to investigate her death , a drowning , suicide , crime , murder , accident , dying within 24 hours of being admitted to hospital and many other reasons , the STATE takes the body , do as it pleases for whatever time it requires it and then releases the body to the family .

The family has no rights over it till the investigation is done.

During the investigation , the body can be treated in any indecent , inhumane way possible .

It can be photographed naked , displayed in front of non mahram men , and put through butchery .

There is no dignity or respect given to the sister.

But this is another topic , one  all :Shia communities especially in the western world ignore.

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They do this everyday .

When a sister dies where the coroner deems it necessary to investigate her death , a drowning , suicide , crime , murder , accident , dying within 24 hours of being admitted to hospital and many other reasons , the STATE takes the body , do as it pleases for whatever time it requires it and then releases the body to the family .

The family has no rights over it till the investigation is done.

During the investigation , the body can be treated in any indecent , inhumane way possible .

It can be photographed naked , displayed in front of non mahram men , and put through butchery .

There is no dignity or respect given to the sister.

But this is another topic , one  all :Shia communities especially in the western world ignore.

I meant while the women are alive and in good health. Sure, I don't trust doctors/surgeons, for the most part. Many are money hungry. I can totally understand that. They take out many loans and feel indebted. It's a vicious cycle. It's no wonder why it's said doctors/dentists rank among the highest in suicide rates, but yeah, I don't mean to digress any further.

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I meant while the women are alive and in good health. Sure, I don't trust doctors/surgeons, for the most part. Many are money hungry. I can totally understand that. They take out many loans and feel indebted. It's a vicious cycle. It's no wonder why it's said doctors/dentists rank among the highest in suicide rates, but yeah, I don't mean to digress any further.

The WHO has recommended that people from the affected countries have a certificate of polio vaccination before being able to travel abroad.

 

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/05/05/361424/polio-spread-threatens-world-health/

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Bismehe Ta3ala,

Assalam Alikum Brother Sami,

Alhamd'Allah' I'm happy to see you back posting. There is a polio campaign in Lebanon on the streets and in school where they have pressured a lot of parents to vaccinate their children. Alhamd'Allah, I have refused this vaccination many times and will continue to do so. My children are long overdue in taking the MMR shot and thankfully my dh has forgotten about this vaccination. I'm seriously afraid about this vaccine to give to my children, but if my dh wants to give it to them, what can I do to stop him?

What is my Islamic duty as a wife listen to my dh or as a mother prevent harm towards my children? Should I ask this question to my marja3? Or should I ask my dh to agree on the result of istikhara?

M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah

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Bismehe Ta3ala,

Assalam Alikum Brother Sami,

Alhamd'Allah' I'm happy to see you back posting. There is a polio campaign in Lebanon on the streets and in school where they have pressured a lot of parents to vaccinate their children. Alhamd'Allah, I have refused this vaccination many times and will continue to do so. My children are long overdue in taking the MMR shot and thankfully my dh has forgotten about this vaccination. I'm seriously afraid about this vaccine to give to my children, but if my dh wants to give it to them, what can I do to stop him?

What is my Islamic duty as a wife listen to my dh or as a mother prevent harm towards my children? Should I ask this question to my marja3? Or should I ask my dh to agree on the result of istikhara?

M3 Salamah, FE AMIN Allah

(bismillah)

(salam)

 

I'm happy that you are happy dear sister .

Your husband  has the leadership role in the family , and with such a great position comes big responsibilities.

Unfortunately the vaccine agenda is so powerful that many of the brothers and sisters seem to lose common sense and logic.

Simple things like vaccines do contain :Haram ingredients , such as aborted foetus( babies ) , humans , monkeys , dogs , pigs , mercury and formaldehyde etc.

Though a few of these ingredients can be consumed in order to save a life e.g.; pig , most cannot under no circumstances eg. babies .

And vaccines are not used to save a life that is in eminent danger , nor is it proven scientifically that it prevents any disease.

On the contrary I have provided evidence of the risks including death and serious injury.

Unless your husband is willing to play Russian roulette with his kids lives ,  he should seriously research into vaccines and not blindly follow the  "doctors " advise.

As for our eminent  :Marjas , they have looked the other way in regards to such topics .

You would never get a definitive answer from them.

They cannot as these issues together with fluoridation , charging :Riba and the creation of fait :Riba currency is hush hush .

I am not going to comment on their reasons for their silence.

I am happy to pass on more information so your husband can make an informed decision.

I wish you and your family well .

With respect and :Duas to you and your family .

 

ws

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Vaccines DO NOT contain aborted fetuses, or monkeys, or pigs.  Viruses need host cells to take over and replicate in, so the viruses are grown in various cell cultures.  These cells can be from many different types of sources, some of which are from human embryonic stem cell lines that were created a long time ago and exist till today.  No body is pulling aborted fetuses out of trash cans and harvesting cells for use in culture.  Once the virus is collected from the culture, it is purified and usually killed by formaldehyde (or something else) and then placed in various preservatives.  Some of those preservatives have been something called thiomersal, which is a mercury based compound that has no proven link to disease at the doses seen in vaccines.  Although many vaccine manufacturers have stopped using it because of people being scared of it.

 

I think it's easy to say doctors are out there fabricating evidence to prove vaccines are safe, but the facts are that vaccines save lives.  They have become a victim of their own success.  Not only do you risk your own health, or the health of your children, but you risk the health of the entire community by non immunizing.  Not everyone has a good immune system, and vaccines aren't 100% effective, and vaccines don't work on some people with certain genetic immune problems.  When enough people stop vaccinating, all those are at risk.

 

 

Laayla, regarding your children - there has been a recent outbreak of polio in Syria, which isn't too far away from Lebanon.  Polio can diarrhea, but if it gets into the blood and into the nerves it can cause paralysis.  Please look at the following pictures and get your kids vaccinated.  If you're really scared, get the inactivated polio vaccine (injection) instead of the attenuated polio vaccine (given by mouth).

 

Polio 

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This lady can't breath without the help of an iron lung, thanks to polio

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Read this: http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/60-years-iron-lung-us-polio-survivor-worries-about-new-f2D11641456

 

And failure to get MMR vaccine can lead to getting measles.  Measles at an early age is associated with something called sub-acute sclerosing pan encephalitis.  There are no pictures of it, like polio, but it will usually kill.  The incidence is somewhere between 4-11 per 100,000 who get a measles infection.  So the risk is low, but it is there.

 

And Rubella is unlikely to kill your children, but if they ever get it and are around a pregnant woman, she can contract it and the result will be her child born with birth defects.  You can do an image search for congenital rubella if you like to see some of the visible defects, but many of the defects are in the heart and other organs.

 

Now I can't gaurantee nothing will happen to your children.  But I can tell you that I told my sister to vaccinate her newborn recently, and I plan on vaccinating mine whenever they come, and every physician I know vaccinates their kids.  The only vaccine that currently is at high risk for causing harm is the oral polio vaccine, because it is alive, but weakened, and it will rarely transform itself back into a harmful strain.

 

Every vaccine out there, at least in the US, has been scientifically proven to prevent disease, reduce risk of infection, and/or reduce the severity of infection if it happens.  Viruses and bacteria are constantly evolving, and scientists are doing their best to keep up with these changes.

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Vaccines DO NOT contain aborted fetuses, or monkeys, or pigs.  Viruses need host cells to take over and replicate in, so the viruses are grown in various cell cultures.  These cells can be from many different types of sources, some of which are from human embryonic stem cell lines that were created a long time ago and exist till today.  No body is pulling aborted fetuses out of trash cans and harvesting cells for use in culture.  Once the virus is collected from the culture, it is purified and usually killed by formaldehyde (or something else) and then placed in various preservatives.  Some of those preservatives have been something called thiomersal, which is a mercury based compound that has no proven link to disease at the doses seen in vaccines.  Although many vaccine manufacturers have stopped using it because of people being scared of it.

 

I think it's easy to say doctors are out there fabricating evidence to prove vaccines are safe, but the facts are that vaccines save lives.  They have become a victim of their own success.  Not only do you risk your own health, or the health of your children, but you risk the health of the entire community by non immunizing.  Not everyone has a good immune system, and vaccines aren't 100% effective, and vaccines don't work on some people with certain genetic immune problems.  When enough people stop vaccinating, all those are at risk.

 

 

Laayla, regarding your children - there has been a recent outbreak of polio in Syria, which isn't too far away from Lebanon.  Polio can diarrhea, but if it gets into the blood and into the nerves it can cause paralysis.  Please look at the following pictures and get your kids vaccinated.  If you're really scared, get the inactivated polio vaccine (injection) instead of the attenuated polio vaccine (given by mouth).

 

Polio 

children-with-polio-300x200.jpg

This lady can't breath without the help of an iron lung, thanks to polio

2D9764652-131113-after-iron-lung-348p.nb

Read this: http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/60-years-iron-lung-us-polio-survivor-worries-about-new-f2D11641456

 

And failure to get MMR vaccine can lead to getting measles.  Measles at an early age is associated with something called sub-acute sclerosing pan encephalitis.  There are no pictures of it, like polio, but it will usually kill.  The incidence is somewhere between 4-11 per 100,000 who get a measles infection.  So the risk is low, but it is there.

 

And Rubella is unlikely to kill your children, but if they ever get it and are around a pregnant woman, she can contract it and the result will be her child born with birth defects.  You can do an image search for congenital rubella if you like to see some of the visible defects, but many of the defects are in the heart and other organs.

 

Now I can't gaurantee nothing will happen to your children.  But I can tell you that I told my sister to vaccinate her newborn recently, and I plan on vaccinating mine whenever they come, and every physician I know vaccinates their kids.  The only vaccine that currently is at high risk for causing harm is the oral polio vaccine, because it is alive, but weakened, and it will rarely transform itself back into a harmful strain.

 

Every vaccine out there, at least in the US, has been scientifically proven to prevent disease, reduce risk of infection, and/or reduce the severity of infection if it happens.  Viruses and bacteria are constantly evolving, and scientists are doing their best to keep up with these changes.

Forget injecting into them poisons. Work on better their nutrition and sanitation. U.S. gov't doesn't want that. It's all about money and control. Look a little deeper. I have mentioned on numerous occasions that the USDA [gov't agency] is KNOWN to dump foods [even attorneys have made such claims] for price control. This speaks volumes to the keen observer.

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Forget injecting into them poisons. Work on better their nutrition and sanitation. U.S. gov't doesn't want that. It's all about money and control. Look a little deeper. I have mentioned on numerous occasions that the USDA [gov't agency] is KNOWN to dump foods [i have had a few attorneys say this] for price control. This speaks volumes to the keen observer.

No amount of nutrition will prevent them from getting vaccine preventable diseases, and only keeping your children in a quarantine will prevent them from coming into contact with the wild-type virus/bacteria if it is endemic to your region.

 

You are not a medical professional.  I'm pretty sure you're not even a scientist of any kind.  Please do not spread your opinions and pass them off as fact, because when children start getting sick and dying, are you going to be there to assure their parents that their dead or paralyzed child isn't the result of not getting a vaccine?

 

http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/Anti-Vaccine_Body_Count/Home.html

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No amount of nutrition will prevent them from getting vaccine preventable diseases, and only keeping your children in a quarantine will prevent them from coming into contact with the wild-type virus/bacteria if it is endemic to your region.

 

You are not a medical professional.  I'm pretty sure you're not even a scientist of any kind.  Please do not spread your opinions and pass them off as fact, because when children start getting sick and dying, are you going to be there to assure their parents that their dead or paralyzed child isn't the result of not getting a vaccine?

 

http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/Anti-Vaccine_Body_Count/Home.html

I'm stating what many medical professionals have stated. Kids and adults are already dying and getting even more sick from all these vaccines, chemical poisons, and unnatural, unsafe drugs.

 

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No amount of nutrition will prevent them from getting vaccine preventable diseases, and only keeping your children in a quarantine will prevent them from coming into contact with the wild-type virus/bacteria if it is endemic to your region.

 

You are not a medical professional.  I'm pretty sure you're not even a scientist of any kind.  Please do not spread your opinions and pass them off as fact, because when children start getting sick and dying, are you going to be there to assure their parents that their dead or paralyzed child isn't the result of not getting a vaccine?

 

http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/Anti-Vaccine_Body_Count/Home.html

the word 

:Bismillah-ir-rahman-ir raheem , will prevent all disease and cure any existing ones .

This word recited on food and water will keep your body strong from any disease.

Together with the words 

:Allah-huma-sale-ala-Muhammad-wa-ale-Muhamamd.

 

:Allah swt has made is our bodies perfect with a perfect immune system.

Don't ruin this balance by throwing toxics into it that has been created in the name  other than :Allah swt.

The medical cabal and it's criminal Pharmaceutical partners are not interested in curing disease or helping humanity .

They have $711,000,000,000 reasons not to .

Most parts of the world , $1,000 is the asking price for a hit on a person.

what would  god less corporate entities fuelled by greed , and worshipped and followed by its mind controlled lankies (doctors ) with a trillion dollar budget be willing to do ?

I have on my table a proposal for funding of a vaccine that will cure all disease , it doesn't use dead babies , pigs , monkeys, dogs or mercury , all it's ingredients are natural and :Halal , vegan , it is proven by a team of a American and German scientists and doctors , it cures all cancers by triggering the primitive immune system found in all humans , the special programme given to us by our :Creator . But in this current paradigm , where the monopoly on health is in the hands psychopaths , it will never see the light of day.

:Inshallah all this will change with the advent of our beloved :Imam (as) , as he will bring truth and cure all diseases as promised.

In the meantime , a few of us can do what we can in order to protect our families from the onslaught, and at the same time be ridiculed by our brethren .

Thats why I have taken my family far away from such people .

 

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