Deobandi Are 100% Wahabi Najdi, Not Sunnideobandi wahabi wahhabi barelvi slafi salfi tableeghi jamaat tawleedi follower
Posted 30 November 2012 - 01:21 PM
Wahab are those who were invented by English (British) with the help of Mohammed bin Abdul Wahab Najdi who belongs to an area of Najd (now which is part of Riadh, capital of Saudi Arabia).
Mission was to destroy Ottoman Empire which was a pure Sunni and to destroy Islam too.
They collect people who were against Sunni Govt and were greedy and rascal.
Those people were from Khawarij.When English starts to attack on Ottoman Empire, these people starts slaughtering those who were Sunni, and they call those innocent as "Mushrik" (Mushrik are those who worshops gods of Stones).Sunni had lot of Shrines of Sahaba (companion of Mohammed) and Ahle Bayt.Wahabis started to destroy the Shrines of Sahaba and Sufi (Auliyah).
They call those are infidel, who go to Shrines and asks them for help.However It is the belief of the Ahl-as-Sunnah that it is permissible to supplicate to Allah with the Tawasul of good deeds. It is permitted to supplicate with the Tawasul of a living pious person and it is also permitted to supplicate with the Tawasul of the deceased pious person.
Sunni were those who send "Lanah" on Yazid, they respect Ameer Muawiya but hate Yazid.But Wahabi were those who defend Yazid.
Sunni were those who believe that it is impermissible to say Ya Muhammad! or Ya Rasoolullah [May Allah bless him and grant him peace], but Wahabi said that “Ya Rasul Allah is 'shirk' and it is Wajib to kill Sunni people, and it is is wajib to loot their Sisters, Daughters, Wives and Mothers and it is Wajib to loot their Money.
So, Sunni gives them a name of Wahabis, because they were follower of Mohammed bin Abdul Wahab Najdi, but not Mohammed.
After a period of time they were suceeded to snatch Hijaz (old name of Saudi Arabia),
and after the period of Saud, they renamed the Hijaz to Saudi Arabia.
Posted 01 December 2012 - 01:57 PM
No Difference.Ahlulhadith is branch of Wahabi Sect.Wahabi in India got the name of Ahlulhadith
from English.Salafi is term derived from Salaf which means Past Ulema.It means past ulema of Ahllul Sunnah.But it is wrong because they donot belong to Ahlul Sunnah.But now Salafi term is used only for Wahabis not for Sunni.
Difference b/w Deobandi and Ahlulhadith ?
No difference. Both are branches of Wahabi sect.But both are hiding their reality that they are Wahabi.Both of using Sunni label to hide their reality.It is easy to kill Sunni because most of Sunni dont know the reality.Some Sunni say that Ahlul Hadith are Wahabi but they donot know about Deobandi, because every Deobandi donot accept that they are Wahabi.Using Sunni level they are also creating missunderstanding b/w Sunni and Shia.In this way it is easy to kill both Sunni and Shia.
Difference b/w Sunni and Deobandi ?
Deobandi are Wahabi but Wahabi are not Sunni.Deobandi are Wahabi but they say they are Hanfi Sunni and they follow Imam Abu Hanifa, and sometime they say they are Naqshbandi too.But in reality
they are only Wahabi, in using they label of Hanfi Sunnah, they are hiding their crimes and reality.When they kill Shia, they say it was Sunni Shia secatarian violance.Whey Deobandi kill Sunni they say he was a Spy, Mushrik or Infidel.
If Deobandi are Sunni then why they are destroying Sunni Shrines?, why they hate the day of birth of Prophet Mohammed?, Why they love Yazid, a killer of Imam Hussain? Why they call it a shirk to say "Ya Mohammed" or "Ya Rasoolullah"? why they hate Panjtan?
Who are Pure or Real Sunni ?
Sunni are known as Sufi or Sufiyah outside the South Asia and are known as Barelvi or Barelviyah in South Asia.
Barelvi is not a Sect, but this name was given by Wahabis to Sunni Muslim to hide the reality of Sunni Muslim that they are pure Sunni.Ahmed Raza Khan who was a big Sunni Scholar in South Asia and belong to an Indian city "Bareli".So, Wahabi calls them Barelvi.
If Deobandi are Sunni >>>>>>> The Question is >>>>> Why Deobandi are killing Barelvi/Sunni and attacking Sunni Shrines and Mosques but they donot any Suicide Attack at Ahlul Hadith Mosque ?
Who are Sunni ?
1) Those who hate Yazid.
2) Those who celeberate Mawalid / Eid Melad ul Nabi (Date Birth of Mohammed)
3) Those who love Auliyaah and Shrines.
4) Those who respect Moharam and donot marry in Moharam month.
5) Those who respect Taweez/Charm.
6) Those who love Green Turban
7) Those who use Tawassul /Waseela.
Who are Wahabi ?
1) Those who love Yazid.
2) Those who donot celeberate Mawalid / Eid Melad ul Nabi (Date Birth of Mohammed)
3) Those who hate Auliyaah and Shrines.
4) Those who donot respect Moharam and marry in Moharam month.
5) Those who respect the Taweez/Charm of their own Wahabi Mullah and usesd it secretly and some wahabi also not weare them but they ask it a Shirk when other sect used to weare them around their neck.
6) Those who hate Green Turban but like red Turban or Scarf.
7) Those who hate Tawassul /Waseela but sometime they accept it for their own mullah.
I will Expose both Deobandi and Ahlul Hadith are Wahabi............
1) Deobandi are Wahabi..........Prooof
Proof from Deobandi Mullah Books and their Fatwas......Urdu or Urdu
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Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:31 PM
Follower of Mohammed bin Abdul Wahab were Wahabi and he was a good person.
Rasheed Gangohi says : Wahabi are good follower of Sunnah and religion.
Deobandi Mullah Ashraf Thanvi says:
If I had Rs 10000 I would have distributed it and ( deobandi) people would have automatically become WAHABI.
Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:46 PM
I am a big Wahabi than you.
Deobandi Mullah Mohammed Yousaf says:
we are strict wahabi.
Dear I am Pure Sunni not Wahabi and not shia.ok
Wahabi = Deobandi + Ahlul Hadeeth / Salafi
Salfi term was derived from Salaf, Past Ulema, Now Wahabi are Salafi and deobandi.
Edited by Tiger, 08 February 2013 - 12:47 PM.
Posted 08 February 2013 - 05:58 PM
'Wahabi' is a term given by others who do not follow these beliefs. Salafis say that there is no such thing as a 'wahabi' and prefer the term 'salafi.'
Salafi vs Sunni vs Shia
Salafi: Do NOT follow one of the 4 schools in taqleed. They follow the 'way of the salaf' i.e. they try to follow Islam as practiced by the sahaba.
However, their views are extreme. It is haram to visit graves according to them. It is haram to celebrate Milad Al Rasul . They say the love Ahlul Bayt and the sahaba. However, detailed discussion with them paints a different picture. These guys actually respect Yazid.Hold Muawiya in very high regard. Some of them even say what Yazid did was right (astghfirullah). These are not rumours, I have relatives who know such people. They say Shia and some Sufis are kaffir. They still follow the Sunni ahadith - Bukhari et al. They call themselves Salafi Sunnis.
Sunni: Will follow one of the 4 schools - Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i or Hanbali. Follow Sunni ahadith - Bukhari et al. Do not think it is haram to visit graves. Will celebrate Milad Al Rasul (saw). Do not commemorate death of Sayyidna Imam Al-Hussain . Differing views on Muawiya. Some hold in high regard as above, a lot praise him but agree he made mistakes and was clearly in the wrong during Battle of Siffin. Muawiya is not a rightly guided Caliph. Love Ahlul Bayt (all) including wives of Prophet , love sahaba. Do NOT like Yazid. Comparing their practice of Islam (from what we know) is very similar to how Prophet Muhammad and his companions practiced. Do not say that Shia are kuffar.
Shia: Do not follow the 4 schools. Most say they follow the Jafari school (12ers). Some follow Imam Ismaeel lineage, some follow Imam Zayd lineage. They celebrate Milad Al Rasul (saw). Commemorate death of Imam Hussain . Visit graves of Imams in abundance. Hate MOST sahaba - only revere approximately 5-6 of main sahaba. Most hate even Khulfa Rashidun and actually curse sahaba. Completely hate Muawiya and even more Yazid (understandably). Claim to love Ahlul Bayt but hate some of Prophet Muhammad 's wives and even curse them (even though they are part of Ahlul Bayt). Do not give much recognition to other members of Ahlul Bayt and only focus on Imams. Claim Imamate is highter than Prophethood. Claim that the Imams have special powers. Practice many rituals/ activities that were simply NOT practiced or prescribed by Prophet Muhammad .
With that summary, you decide what is the best course. At the end of the day, it is a shame that Islam has become so divided, because Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì has stated that we should NOT divide ourselves - but human behaviour/ thought will always be a catalyst for division in all aspects of life. Imam Ali stated: follow the middle course. Now ask yourself honestly what the middle course is?
And Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì knows best.
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