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Ali_Musaaa has a positive experience with Sunnis. The only masjid near him is Sunni, and the imam of the masjid told him that Shia is a permissible school of thought to follow. He prays with them and everything (using some sort of turbah and saying quietly our parts of course).

al-hamdulilah.. this is one of many examples. I was brought to (and encourage to study) my faith by my Sunni brothers.

A prominent local Sheikh was convinced to study in Qom by his close friends - whom were Sunni.

I have a Sunni friend who is a firm lover of Ahlul Bayt and Irfan and provides excellent food for thought during the months of Ramadhan

Imam Khomeini (ra) was even a connoisseur of Sunni texts (Ibn Arabi, Ibn Sina, Rumi)

We need to recognize that Shia and Sunni are parallel orthodoxies with different points of focus (sahaba vs family, fiqh vs metaphysics). Shia'ism in a sense, was never meant for the masses, ideas such as wilayah and masoomeen are not ideas that can be taught to the masses.

Tashayyu is an honoured teaching and the Shia work to enact it and share it

There needs to be more Shia-Sunni discourse and less Shia-Sunni hate

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I have a Sunni friend who is a firm lover of Ahlul Bayt and Irfan and provides excellent food for thought during the months of Ramadhan

Every Sunni loves Ahlel Bayt brother.

Imam Khomeini (ra) was even a connoisseur of Sunni texts (Ibn Arabi, Ibn Sina, Rumi)

Whats your opinion on this?

"To prove that government and authority belong to the Imam (‘a) is not to imply that the Imam (‘a) has no spiritual status. The Imam (‘a) does indeed possess certain spiritual dimensions that are unconnected with their function as a ruler. The spiritual status of the Imam (‘a) is a universal divine viceregency that is sometimes mentioned by the Imams (‘a). It is a viceregency pertaining to the whole of creation, by virtue of which all the atoms in the universe humble themselves before the holder of authority. It is one of the essential beliefs of our Shi‘i school that no one can attain the spiritual status of the Imams, not even the cherubim (angels) or the prophets."

The next bit is actually hilarious, sounds like some sort of fairytale.

" In fact, according to the traditions that have been handed down to us, the Most Noble Messenger and the Imams (‘a) existed before the creation of the world in the form of lights situated beneath the divine throne;"

Does this verse mean nothing to this Grand Ayatullah of yours?!

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Does man not remember that We created him before, while he was nothing?

Edited by Dagga

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Shia'ism in a sense, was never meant for the masses, ideas such as wilayah and masoomeen are not ideas that can be taught to the masses.

I think you have been heavily influenced by Ismaili doctrine. If you truly believe that there is 2 level Islam. One for the masses and one for the 'elite' then you are a lost soul whatever your doctrinal faith

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@Dagga - I'm not sure what point your making or trying to portray

@Sunni - I don't know an ounce of anything Ismaili, merely been reflecting that perhaps the division exists for necessary reasons of division (and thinking a little beyong "to test us"). I didn't think a little food for thought enabled my soul being lost (perhaps I left it under the bed?)

@Titumer - I agree, other than www.al-islam.org anything "islam" or "ummah" related is run my Sunnis. They often make a point on their "About Islam" page or somewhere similar to state Shia-ism isn't qualified as Islam, which is sad

Edited by Ali_Ibn_Hussein

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Ali_Musaaa has a positive experience with Sunnis. The only masjid near him is Sunni, and the imam of the masjid told him that Shia is a permissible school of thought to follow. He prays with them and everything (using some sort of turbah and saying quietly our parts of course).

There is good and bad in all groups of people. They are my best friends and my only Muslim Brothers. Even the Imams son, who is a Hafiz learns Qur'an off a Shia :P I found that out the other day.

What I find funny is that all 3 converts at our Mosque are Shia Muslims, me my friend from School and one Brother that converted to Shia Islam about two weeks ago. We plan on visiting a Shia Masjid soon inshAllah

Edited by Ali Musaaa :)

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What the sh*t?

A Sunni just told me that I am an enemy to Muhammad (pbuh) because I am a vegetarian and Muhammad (pbuh) was not. What? This guy is retarded.

That is evidently retarded and yet the sad thing is that it is not surprising coming out of their mouths.

I've had some tell me that it is "wrong" to have a Jewish first name even though it is in the Quran and it is not some kind of none-religious Jewish name like Ari or something.

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