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(salam)

Is anyone following the new Umar series on MBC? You can watch the episodes in Arabic online here: http://shahid.mbc.net/media/program/408

Unfortunately I'm not a native Arabic speaker, so no point watching it since I can't understand anything, but is it any good? From the few clips that I saw it seems they are covering the story from the Prophet's time onward (freeing of Bilal by Abu Bakr etc.).

Also, apparently they are showing the faces of some of the popular companions including Imam Ali and Umar - have any Sunni scholars spoken about this?

Wassalam

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(wasalam)

I watched some of an episode; and saw they depicted 'Abu Bakr, 'Umar and I believe Khaalid bin Walid. The Saudi and Egyptian Sunni clergy have gone bonkers over it;

http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20120710129528 (interestingly enough, they don't mention 'Imaam Ali's (as) depiction in this article)

http://www.emirates247.com/entertainment/films-music/top-saudi-cleric-slams-tv-series-on-umar-set-for-ramadan-telecast-2012-07-07-1.466119

http://www.emirates247.com/news/region/saudi-prince-vows-to-stop-tv-film-on-muslim-caliph-2012-07-16-1.467428 (this "prince" wanting to take the network to court?)

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(bismillah)

(salam)

Salafis tend to generally be against it because it shows the faces of Sahaba and some of the actors are not exactly known for their piety. Plus the problem with a number of these series is that they're not completely historically accurate so some people see something on the show and they think that's what actually happened even though that may have just been something that the director or a writer made up to be epic or to kill some time, etc.

Details:

While i am of the view that it is extremely important to use media like movies to spread Islam, i would prefer it if they didn't show the faces of especially 'Ali (as) and the Prophet (pbuh) and there should be scholars who are consulted for every detail in the movie, because in a way, these movies/series are like hadiths; you're telling people what happened, and since this involves religion and actual events, we should be accurate.

And Allah(swt) knows best.

Edited by ImamAliLover

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Besides the very obvious issues with the show, it's got pretty good cinematography.

I think that's only advantage of the show. The money they spent on it really worked because the outcome looks very modern, something you would expect from the US.

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I might have picked up on something incorrect, but why was Umar by The Prophet (SAW) when he made Hajra into Medina? From what I recall within Hadiths & History, Umar wanted to kill The Prophet (SAW) while he was ALREADY in Medina. Sounds like they just exalted Umar a bunch.

Unless that guy in brown turban and dress isn't Umar...

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Are they going to show Umar running away from battle :)

They show everyone Ali included, it is so amazing,

Arent you guys strictly against showing faces of sahaba? And i think some of you even go to the extent of calling it an act of kufr.

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I might have picked up on something incorrect, but why was Umar by The Prophet (SAW) when he made Hajra into Medina? From what I recall within Hadiths & History, Umar wanted to kill The Prophet (SAW) while he was ALREADY in Medina. Sounds like they just exalted Umar a bunch.

Unless that guy in brown turban and dress isn't Umar...

Umar became Muslim before hijra, around 616.

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I hope the people who object to the faces of the actors playing the Prophet (pbuh) and Imam `Ali (a) being shown also object to the faces of Maryam عليها السلام, Nabi `Isa, Nabi Sulayman, and Nabi Yusuf عليهم السلام, among others being shown in popular films and TV series.

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(salam)

Can someone go to 23:25 onward and confirm that the lady shown there is meant to be Lady Fatima (sa):

I think thats Abu Bakr (ra)'s daughter

Arent you guys strictly against showing faces of sahaba? And i think some of you even go to the extent of calling it an act of kufr.

Not Sahaba, the 10 promised paradise.

Edited by Dagga

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I hope the people who object to the faces of the actors playing the Prophet (pbuh) and Imam `Ali (a) being shown also object to the faces of Maryam عليها السلام, Nabi `Isa, Nabi Sulayman, and Nabi Yusuf عليهم السلام, among others being shown in popular films and TV series.

Yawn...Muslims dont like their holy personalities to be displayed on screen or in pictures. There is no reason/indication otherwise for you to post this.

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Yawn...Muslims dont like their holy personalities to be displayed on screen or in pictures. There is no reason/indication otherwise for you to post this.

Yawn...Muslims dont like their holy personalities to be displayed on screen or in pictures. There is no reason/indication otherwise for you to post this.

This is so coz of their internal love for each other............ :donno:

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Yawn...Muslims dont like their holy personalities to be displayed on screen or in pictures. There is no reason/indication otherwise for you to post this.

Right...

etc...

All these films are made in Iran.

Seems the only time most Shias have a problem with faces been shown is when it comes to the Ahlulbayt (as). Fallibles like Zaynab bint `Ali are given more respect than infallible Prophets.

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Seems the only time most Shias have a problem with faces been shown is when it comes to the Ahlulbayt (as). Fallibles like Zaynab bint `Ali are given more respect than infallible Prophets.

If you are mentioning them being depicted in film, then In all fairness, Zaynab bint 'Ali was a Muslim woman who would have her face veiled so they wouldn't be able to show it anyway. The Prophets (as) would probably not have their faces veiled.

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If you are mentioning them being depicted in film, then In all fairness, Zaynab bint 'Ali was a Muslim woman who would have her face veiled so they wouldn't be able to show it anyway. The Prophets (as) would probably not have their faces veiled.

The other women at Karbala were Muslim women with veiled faces as well, yet they were not portrayed in the same way (their faces or at least eyes were shown). Additionally, according to many reports, their face veils were ripped off in the aftermath of the battle, and they were not wearing them on the way to Shaam.

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Besides the very obvious issues with the show, it's got pretty good cinematography.

Agreed, the Arabic is easy to understand as well. I'm glad they didn't mix in dialects.

The cinematography is better than those Iranian ones.

Edited by Hannibal

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